Re: Let's create a good language!
Posted: November 29th, 2020, 4:15 pm
Something like that.
So this language will have that?
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So this language will have that?
Ok so under this system we will need a transitive -> intransitive suffix and subject -> object suffix?fluffykitty wrote: November 29th, 2020, 6:38 pm Well, if all verbs are by default transitive, then something like that will probably be necessary.
Would causative be like <I moved the chair.>?fluffykitty wrote: November 30th, 2020, 2:49 am We'd have the passive voice suffix, the middle voice suffix, the causative suffix, and probably also the other promotion suffixes.
Is the default transitive or intransitive then? Your post seems to say it's intransitive. That's what I'd said at first but I thought there was a problem and changed it. What do you mean by "primitively"?fluffykitty wrote: November 30th, 2020, 2:55 am If our version of "move" was primitively intransitive, then that would use the causative suffix.
I dunno. For verbs like this I think we should default to intransitive.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 30th, 2020, 2:58 amIs the default transitive or intransitive then? Your post seems to say it's intransitive. That's what I'd said at first but I thought there was a problem and changed it.fluffykitty wrote: November 30th, 2020, 2:55 am If our version of "move" was primitively intransitive, then that would use the causative suffix.
Without modification from voice affixes.
Ok then, do we need any object -> subject suffix or subject -> object suffix?fluffykitty wrote: November 30th, 2020, 3:08 am I dunno. For verbs like this I think we should default to intransitive.
Are the passive and middle voice suffixes the same?fluffykitty wrote: November 30th, 2020, 3:17 am The object to subject suffixes are the passive suffix and the middle voice suffix, and the subject to object suffix is the causative suffix.
How about right now? Also, these suffixes come after case markers, right?fluffykitty wrote: November 30th, 2020, 3:38 am Probably not. We should actually construct these suffixes at some point.
Ok, that's fine by me. Let's start making the suffixes.fluffykitty wrote: November 30th, 2020, 3:47 am The voicing and promotion suffixes apply to verbs. So far, the only inflection we have for nouns is the case+number marker. I think the order of suffixes should be verb-promotion/causative-voice-tense.
We should also figure out how to ask questions. Should we add a word like in English <Do(es) + SVO) or change word order or do something else entirely? I will watch the video today. I'm okay with changing <-eihc-> to <-eic->.fluffykitty wrote: December 1st, 2020, 3:10 am <Ni ngwelu ynca kalane saithanein> "The food is on the table", <Ngwengeihco> "You are eating". and we should probably figure out how we'll do stuff like "can" and "should". Here's a video about stuff like that, and here's a Pastebin of the transcript for Hunting. Also, I don't really like the <-eihc-> suffix for the present continuous. I think we should change it to <-eic->.
Maybe we could use a particle after the verb.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: December 2nd, 2020, 2:12 amWe should also figure out how to ask questions. Should we add a word like in English <Do(es) + SVO) or change word order or do something else entirely?fluffykitty wrote: November 29th, 1973, 5:33 pm <Ni ngwelu ynca kalane saithanein> "The food is on the table", <Ngwengeihco> "You are eating". and we should probably figure out how we'll do stuff like "can" and "should". Here's a video about stuff like that, and here's a Pastebin of the transcript for Hunting. Also, I don't really like the <-eihc-> suffix for the present continuous. I think we should change it to <-eic->.
Okay.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: December 2nd, 2020, 2:12 am I will watch the video today. I'm okay with changing <-eihc-> to <-eic->.
Okay. Should it be a new words or some reused word like the <to> in <to go>?
Ok. Are there any problems that could happen when we make questions that we haven't yet thought about?