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Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 24th, 2016, 12:25 am
by Hdjensofjfnen
Component:
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x = 6, y = 4, rule = B3/S2-i34q
4b2o$2o2bo$2o2bo$4b2o!
EDIT: Transparent caps:
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x = 11, y = 8, rule = B3/S2-i34q
4b3o$5bo$b2o2bo2b2o$obo2bo2bobo$obo2bo2bobo$b2o2bo2b2o$5bo$4b3o!
EDIT 2:
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x = 47, y = 9, rule = B3/S2-i34q
5b3o10b3o10b3o10b3o$6bo12bo12bo12bo2$41bo$b2o11b2o11b3o10bo$obo10bob2o
9bo12bobo$obo10bob2o9bo12bobo$b2o11b2o11b3o10bo$41bo!
EDIT 3: Lots of blocks!
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x = 6, y = 14, rule = B3/S2-i34q
2bo$o3bo$5bo$o4bo$b5o5$b5o$o4bo$5bo$o3bo$2bo!
EDIT 4: Ok, a bit better:
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x = 22, y = 14, rule = B3/S2-i34q
2bo$o3bo$5bo$o4bo9b4o$b5o9bo2bo$16b2o$12b2o6b2o$12b2o6b2o$16b2o$b5o9bo
2bo$o4bo9b4o$5bo$o3bo$2bo!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 24th, 2016, 2:47 pm
by praosylen
A 3-engine ant gun:
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x = 19, y = 23, rule = B3/S2-i34q
3bo$2b2o$3bobo$4bo4$18bo$18bo$18bo$17b2o$17b2o10$5o$3b2o!
Some 3-engine guns that look like they might be good inserters:
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x = 28, y = 30, rule = B3/S2-i34q
3bo$3bo$4bo2$o$2o5bo$bo4bob2o$o3b2ob2o$4b2o$6bo15b3o$4b2o16b3o$4bo1
8bo$25bo$19b2o5bo$18b3o5b2o$19bo6b2o$21b2o$21b3o$21b3o10$5o$3b2o!
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x = 27, y = 28, rule = B3/S2-i34q
2o$2bo3b3o$2o2b2o3bo$7bobo$4b2obo15bo$6bo16bo$4b3o15bo$4b2o$26bo$19
bo5b2o$17b2obo4bo$18b2ob2o3bo$21b2o$20bo$21b2o$22bo11$6b5o$9b2o!
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x = 25, y = 28, rule = B3/S2-i34q
9bob2o$10b2o2$15b2o$5b2ob2o4bo$6bob2o$7bo2bo$9bobo8b2o$9b2o8b3o$10b
o7bo$15b2o$15b3o5b2o$15b2o5b3o$22b3o$19b2o$19b3o$20bo10$5o$3b2o!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 24th, 2016, 2:55 pm
by muzik
Are there guns for any of the bigger ships that do not involve syntheses using the three basic photons?
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 24th, 2016, 2:59 pm
by praosylen
muzik wrote:Are there guns for any of the bigger ships that do not involve syntheses using the three basic photons?
None known yet, although it seems like one might be possible, although hard to explicitly construct, for the 2c/6.
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 24th, 2016, 4:31 pm
by praosylen
What I think is the longest-lived pattern in a 4x4 box (574 gens, I think there are other predecessors to the same gen 1, but I'm not sure):
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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S2-i34q
2obo$ob2o$b2o$bo!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 24th, 2016, 5:33 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Dang...
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x = 4, y = 11, rule = B3/S2-i34q
2b2o$b3o$2obo$bobo$2b2o2$2b2o$bobo$2obo$b3o$2b2o!
EDIT: Dang...
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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i34q
b2o$ob2o$2o2bo$bo2bo$2b3o!
EDIT 2: Dang...
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x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3/S2-i34q
b2o8b2o$ob2o6b2obo$2o2bo4bo2b2o$bo2bo4bo2bo$2b3o4b3o5$2b3o4b3o$bo2bo4b
o2bo$2o2bo4bo2b2o$ob2o6b2obo$b2o8b2o!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 24th, 2016, 8:43 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
A for awesome wrote:What I think is the longest-lived pattern in a 4x4 box (574 gens, I think there are other predecessors to the same gen 1, but I'm not sure):
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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S2-i34q
2obo$ob2o$b2o$bo!
Yes.
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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S2-i34q
2obo$ob2o$bo$b2o!
Re: tlife
Posted: September 24th, 2016, 9:52 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
A for awesome wrote:BlinkerSpawn wrote:BlinkerSpawn, on January 12th wrote:Managed to finally synthesize the weird 23-bitter from 13G:
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x = 21, y = 17, rule = tlife
6b2o$6b2o$16bo$15bo$5bo9b3o$4bobo$5bobo$6b2o2$12b2o$12bobo3b3o$12bo5bo
$7b2o10bo$6bo2bo$b2o4b2o4b2o$obo10bobo$2bo10bo!
I totally forgot about that, sorry. The predecessor in the soup seems like it could possibly reduce that synthesis, though.
And it indeed does, after looking in M. I. Wright's backwards-G-plus-T collision table:
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x = 34, y = 36, rule = B3/S2-i34q
obo$b2o$bo14$10bo$8bobo$9b2o3$25b2o$25b3o$25b2o2$24bo$22bobo$12b2o9b2o
$11bobo$13bo3$31bo$30bobo$30bo2bo$31b2o!
On an unrelated note, is there any way to assemble this loop predecessor?
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x = 16, y = 10, rule = B3/S2-i34q
15bo$13b2o$13b3o$12b3o$6bo4bobo$5bobo2bo2bo$bo2bo3bo2b2o$obo2bobo$b2o$
bo!
Re: tlife
Posted: September 24th, 2016, 10:23 pm
by praosylen
BlinkerSpawn wrote:after looking in M. I. Wright's backwards-G-plus-T collision table
Just so you know, I
sorted those a while back, in case that's at all useful.
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 25th, 2016, 5:48 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Stupid things to do with barges:
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x = 27, y = 7, rule = B3/S2-i34q
24b3o$3bo19bo2bo$bo19bo4bo$obo2bo14bobo2bo$bobo17bobo$2bobo17bobo$3bo
19bo!
Longest lasting 4x4?
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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S2-i34q
3o$o2bo$o2bo$3bo!
EDIT: 4x5 DIEHARD!!
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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i34q
3o$o2bo$o2bo$3bo$3o!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 25th, 2016, 5:52 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Sorry for double-posting.
Here's a partial. Look at the ash, though.
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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i34q
3o$o2bo$2b2o$o2bo$3o!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 25th, 2016, 5:59 pm
by praosylen
Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Longest lasting 4x4?
I just posted a much longer-lasting 4x4 above. Scroll up.
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 25th, 2016, 9:51 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
A for awesome wrote:Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Longest lasting 4x4?
I just posted a much longer-lasting 4x4 above. Scroll up.
Is there an apgsearch page for tlife?
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 25th, 2016, 10:07 pm
by praosylen
Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Is there an apgsearch page for tlife?
Yes.
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 25th, 2016, 10:16 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Another stupid barge reaction:
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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S2-i34q
5bo$4bobo$5bobo$3bo2bobo$bo5bo$obo2bo$bobo2bo$2bobo$3bo!
EDIT: Tub eats two pre-beehives:
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S2-i34q
5b2o$2bo2b2o$bobob2o$2bo2$3o$3o!
EDIT 2: Almost 180 degrees:
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x = 6, y = 14, rule = B3/S2-i34q
3o$bo10$3b2o$2bo2bo$3b2o!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 25th, 2016, 10:38 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
A "crawling" diehard:
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x = 18, y = 18, rule = B3/S2-i34q
11bo$10bo$10b3o6$o$2o$o5$15b3o$15bo$16bo!
EDIT: The front looks promising...
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i34q
3bo$2bobo$bobobo$obobobo$bobobo!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 27th, 2016, 9:35 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Releases an ant:
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x = 13, y = 13, rule = B3/S2-i34q
o$2o$b2o6$11bo$6b2o3b2o$5bobo$5bobo$6bo!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 28th, 2016, 7:41 pm
by praosylen
A few syntheses and components:
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x = 74, y = 45, rule = tlife
40bo$40bobo6bo$29bo10b2o5b2o$28bo19b2o$12bobo13b3o8bo21bo10bo$6bo5b2o
9bo15bo5bo15bo5bo3bo$5b3o5bo8b3o13b3o2b2o5bo9b3o2b2o4b3o$5b3o14b3o19b
2o2b2o16b2o$10b3o14b3o19b2o$10bo16bo42b3o$3bob2o4bo8bob2o4bo7bob2o18bo
b2o8bo$b3ob2o11b3ob2o10b3ob2o6b2o8b3ob2o9bo$o3bo12bo3bo4b2o5bo3bo7b2o
8bo3bo6b3o$obobo12bobobo3bobo5bobobo9bo7bobobo7bo$bobo14bobo6bo6bobo
19bobo8bo$2bo16bo15bo21bo$28bo$28bobo$28b2o3$22bobo$6bo5bo10b2o$4bobo
5bobo8bo$5b2o5b2o2$5bo7bo10bob2ob2obo$5b3o3b3o5bo4b2obobob2o$8bobo9b2o
5bobo$5b3o3b3o5b2o3b3o3b3o$5bo7bo10bo7bo3$20bo3b2o5b2o$18bobo3bobo3bob
o4bo$19b2o4bobobobo4b2o$26bo3bo5bobo$21b3o$23bo6b2o$22bo7bobo$30bo2$
21b2o$22b2o$21bo!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 28th, 2016, 9:37 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
In case you're not aware, the standard method of making sidewalks works too.
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: September 28th, 2016, 10:30 pm
by praosylen
BlinkerSpawn wrote:In case you're not aware, the standard method of making sidewalks works too.
Oops. Sorry.
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: October 5th, 2016, 10:05 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Done by accident:
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x = 14, y = 4, rule = B3/S2-i34q
3bo6bo$4bo4bo$o3bo4bo3bo$b4o4b4o!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: October 7th, 2016, 8:39 am
by praosylen
Some possibly-synthesizable quadpole predecessors:
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S2-i34q
2o$o3bo$b3o2$3b3o$2bo3bo$5b2o!
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S2-i34q
2obo$o3bo$b3o2$3b3o$2bo3bo$3bob2o!
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S2-i34q
2o2bo$o3bo$b3o2$3b3o$2bo3bo$2bo2b2o!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: October 8th, 2016, 8:57 pm
by toroidalet
Hdjensofjfnen wrote:
EDIT: The front looks promising...
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i34q
3bo$2bobo$bobobo$obobobo$bobobo!
It seems to be similar to the front end of the p2 ship, which is shown in comparison with generation 5 of your pattern.
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x = 19, y = 8, rule = B3/S2-i34q
3bo10bo$b2ob2o6b2ob2o$b2ob2o6b2ob2o$bo3bo5bobobobo$2o3b2o3bo7bo$13bobo
$13b3o$13b3o!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: October 10th, 2016, 8:15 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Stupid reaction:
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x = 12, y = 10, rule = B3/S2-i34q
bo$2bo$3o5$9b2o$9bobo$10b2o!
Re: tlife (B3/S2-i34q)
Posted: October 12th, 2016, 4:20 pm
by praosylen
Three variants of the same S-to-B:
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x = 74, y = 25, rule = TLifeHistory
17.2C25.2C26.2C$7.B9.C16.B9.C17.B9.C$6.3B5.BC.C15.3B5.BC.C16.3B5.BC.C
$5.8B.B2C15.8B.B2C16.8B.B2C$4.11B16.11B17.11B$5.10B17.10B18.10B$4.11B
16.11B17.11B$4.10B17.10B18.10B$5.10B17.10B18.10B$4.12B.B13.12B.B14.
12B.B$3.14B2C11.14B2C12.14B2C$3.12B.B2C4.2C5.12B.B2C12.12B.B2C$2.12B
3.B6.C4.12B3.B12.12B3.B$2.13B9.C.CB.13B9.2C4.13B$2.12B11.2CB.12B9.BC.
C2B.12B$.C13B12.15B8.2B2C16B$CBC3BC8B12.6BC8B6.2C11BC8B$CBC3B2C6B13.
6B2C6B6.C.CB4.6B2C6B$.C3BC2BC2DBDB14.4BC2BC2DBDB6.C8.4BC2BC2DBDB$4.3B
C2B3D2B16.3BC2B3D2B4.2C11.3BC2B3D2B$4.7BD2B17.7BD2B18.7BD2B$6.8B19.8B
20.8B$7.6B21.6B22.6B$8.5B22.5B23.5B$9.3B24.3B25.3B!
The only differences are in the lower left catalysts, which should be useful in different situations.
A slightly different one:
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x = 25, y = 27, rule = TLifeHistory
12.B$9.5B2.6B$8.15B.B$9.15B2C$8.14B.B2C$8.14B2.B$9.13B$8.14B$7.15B$2C5.
15B$.C4.16B.B$.C.CB.17B2C$2.2CB.17B2C$4.17B.2B$4.6BC10B$4.6B2C8B$5.4B
C2BC7B$8.3BC7B$8.10B$10.8B$11.7B$12.7B$13.5B$13.5B$13.2DBDB$14.3D$15.
D!
These may or may not be useful at all.