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Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: April 15th, 2018, 3:45 am
by 77topaz
Majestas32 wrote:Theyare both there for me?
For me, the object page for the block-plus-ship
says it has a glider synthesis, but when you click on it, it says "invalid pattern" and doesn't show a synthesis.
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: April 30th, 2018, 5:50 pm
by 77topaz
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: May 1st, 2018, 12:26 pm
by cordership3
apgluxe incorrectly classifies both these soups as containing an "ov_p0". Strangely, the ash in both soups is the same set of objects, a block and a
xs19_c8bjo33z33.
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2-ac3aei4ae6i8/S23-ejq8
bbboboboboobobbo$
bbobbbbbbobobbbo$
obobbooooooobobb$
ooobbbbooboboobb$
bbobbboboobobbob$
obobboboooboboob$
obbobbbboooooobo$
bbooboboobobbbob$
obbbooooobboboob$
obbbobobbobooooo$
obbbobboobbbbbbo$
bbbbobobbbbobbbb$
boobboboooobbbbo$
obbbbobboooobobb$
booboboobobbbooo$
oobbbbbooobooobb!
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2-ac3aei4ae6i8/S23-ejq8
ooobbobooobbobbb$
obbbbobobbboboob$
oobooboobbbobobo$
bbooboobbobbbobo$
booooobboooboobo$
ooobobobobooobbo$
ooboobbbbboobboo$
oboobbboboboobbb$
bboobooobobobobb$
bobbbboooboooobb$
obbbobobbbbobbbb$
ooooooooboboobob$
ooboooobboooobbo$
obooboooobbbbooo$
ooobbbobobbooobo$
bbobbooobbbbobbo!
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: May 5th, 2018, 1:43 pm
by dani
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: May 28th, 2018, 4:58 pm
by muzik
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: May 29th, 2018, 2:48 pm
by 2718281828
Here the two oscillators are not correctly separated:
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x = 33, y = 13, rule = B2ik3-jn4ceijk5r/S1e2aci3-k4ty
bo$3o13bo$5o10b3o$3o13bo$bo$27b3o$27b3o$27b3o$24b3o3b3o2$28bo$28bo$28bo!
(.
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 2aci3-k4ty)
It should be:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 2aci3-k4ty
This is weird as they are not even close to each other.
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: May 29th, 2018, 2:56 pm
by Majestas32
Their envelopes overlap causing apgsearch to think it is one object
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: May 29th, 2018, 2:59 pm
by apg
Their envelopes overlap. There was a rationale for not separating oscillators with overlapping envelopes, which hung on the existence of a Reflectorless Rotating Oscillator.
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: May 29th, 2018, 3:21 pm
by Majestas32
Or potentially others such as a reflector less flipping osc or reflector less C2 rotating oscillators (semi-RRO's?)
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 2nd, 2018, 3:10 am
by Apple Bottom
Code: Select all
$ cat [...] | grep -i unban
b2ci3ai4c8s02ae3eijkq4i5ar6i7e/UnbanMajestas32
b2-a3cs12-i/unbanmajestas32_32x32
b2ci3ai4c8s02ae3ejkq4i5ar6i7-c/UnbanMajestas32
b2ci3ai4c8s02a3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e/UnbanMajestas32
b2ci3ai4c8s02ae3ejkq4iz5ar6i7e/UnbanMajestas32
b2-a3cs012-i/UnbanMajestas32
b3s24/UnbanMajestas32
$
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 2nd, 2018, 4:13 am
by 77topaz
Yep, wwei23 is responsible for those.
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 6th, 2018, 7:47 pm
by 77topaz
Why are the b3s23/C1 backup censuses now showing up in the leaderboard?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 9:24 am
by apg
That's because someone has done the very naughty thing of creating a backup of a backup, and they show up if the number of layers of backup is even.
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 9:58 am
by Majestas32
I blame wwei
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 3:24 pm
by wwei23
I didn’t actually do it that time. What if you submit soups to a backup?
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 3:48 pm
by Majestas32
With a hacced apgsearch? Try it on a movero8 backup census
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 3:50 pm
by wwei23
calcyman wrote:That's because someone has done the very naughty thing of creating a backup of a backup, and they show up if the number of layers of backup is even.
There was s backup of a crack up of a backup.
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 4:09 pm
by Majestas32
That was me
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 5:11 pm
by Majestas32
Also double backups show up in the symmetry list for a census CV like movero8 which can be convenient (e.g. on mobile)
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 5:34 pm
by 77topaz
calcyman wrote:That's because someone has done the very naughty thing of creating a backup of a backup, and they show up if the number of layers of backup is even.
Now there's
five of them on the leaderboard.
They'll go away if you delete the double-backups, right?
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 7:03 pm
by apg
77topaz wrote:calcyman wrote:That's because someone has done the very naughty thing of creating a backup of a backup, and they show up if the number of layers of backup is even.
Now there's
five of them on the leaderboard.
They'll go away if you delete the double-backups, right?
Deleted. These annoying backups seem to originate from Huntington, NY.
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 7:37 pm
by 77topaz
calcyman wrote:Deleted. These annoying backups seem to originate from Huntington, NY.
Good. And as for Huntington, NY, that seems suspiciously close to where wwei23 said he lived...
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 8:05 pm
by dani
It may be wise to implement something server-side to stop said double backups from happening. I remember there was a rule (a boring move variant I searched) with a weird phantom symmetry that was showing up in the symmetry list despite being a backup, maybe it's related to it.
Also, wwei and majestas, if you could refrain from posting a combined 7 one liners in a row that would be great
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 7th, 2018, 9:58 pm
by 77topaz
For future reference, Calcyman has now implemented code to prevent double backups from being possible (he mentioned this on the Discord).
Re: Catagolue Oddities
Posted: June 8th, 2018, 8:49 am
by Gamedziner
Why not just make it so that backing up an odd number of backups backs it up twice? Then it would always go from odd to odd.
