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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 9th, 2023, 3:47 am
by qqd
From Re: Thread for you Useless Discoveries:
qqd wrote: June 8th, 2023, 2:01 pm
Game of Life Fun wrote: November 14th, 2022, 3:30 pm
Glider, block and LWSS collision and everyone survives:
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x = 17, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$7b2o11$2o$b2o$o2$15bo$14b3o$13b2obo$13b3o$14b2o!
...
I just realized that the glider is delayed by exactly 1 tick in the above reaction. This gave me an idea of making a 1-tick glider delayer, which could be useful for controlling glider timings very precisely. The general mechanism is displayed below (using xWSSes to avoid clearance issues):
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x = 28, y = 102, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b3o$4bob2o$4b3o$5bo4$5bobo$8bo$8bo$5bo2bo$6b3o5$8bobo$11bo$7bo3b
o$11bo$8bo2bo$9b3o27$21bo$21b3o$24bo$23b2o5$2b2o$3bo14b2o$3o15b2o$o10$
11b3o$13bo$12bo2$25b3o$24bo2bo$27bo$27bo$24bobo10$11b3o$11bo2bo$11bo$
11bo3bo$11bo$12bobo4$8b3o$8bo2bo$8bo$8bo$9bobo!
When the glider is present, as shown above, your reaction produces a 1-tick delayed glider, moving the block in the process. Then the LWSS participating in the reaction gets destroyed by an eater 1, and 4 of the remaining xWSSes restore the block to its original position. The remaining LWSS is destroyed by another eater 1, and its purpose is to clean up the reaction if the glider is absent:
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x = 28, y = 102, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b3o$4bob2o$4b3o$5bo4$5bobo$8bo$8bo$5bo2bo$6b3o5$8bobo$11bo$7bo3b
o$11bo$8bo2bo$9b3o27$21bo$21b3o$24bo$23b2o5$2b2o$3bo14b2o$3o15b2o$o10$
11b2o$13bo$12bo2$25b3o$24bo2bo$27bo$27bo$24bobo10$11b3o$11bo2bo$11bo$
11bo3bo$11bo$12bobo4$8b3o$8bo2bo$8bo$8bo$9bobo!
On their own, the 4 xWSSes that restore the block when the glider moves it in the previous reaction, now just create a single blinker (they also react with the block but leave it unaffected). The final LWSS cleans up this blinker. Overall, this mechanism will only work with periods that are multiple of 2 (because of the blinker), but what does it matter when you can adjust glider timings to
anything at all. Just put some guns (of any period of your choosing) to fire these 6 xWSSes at the reaction site, and you're done. (This is why we use xWSSes instead of gliders, as guns tend to be much closer to the reaction site, probably not giving enough room for the input glider to enter.)
Long story short, this reaction is definitely not completely useless.
Could this be completed? I have no idea where to place the guns to complete this 1-tick glider delayer, though I know it is definitely possible.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 9th, 2023, 4:46 pm
by dvgrn
qqd wrote: June 9th, 2023, 3:47 amCould this be completed? I have no idea where to place the guns to complete this 1-tick glider delayer, though I know it is definitely possible.
I think we'd need a specific use case where this particular 1-tick delayer mechanism would be an improvement on every other 1-tick delayer that we already have available. Otherwise it's just a bit too complicated to synchronize all those glider and *WSS signals, just to do something that we can do without any synchronization.
When we want to delay a glider by one tick, we could either
1) build a one-time 0-degree 0-lane shifter on the glider lane, or
2) put a
demultiplexer on the glider lane, just in front of a few Snarks that delay the glider a little bit. Route the deflected glider from the demultiplexer to a merge circuit that drops the glider back onto the same lane it would have been on otherwise, just one tick slower.
The second option gets used every now and again, in resettable guns and oscillators -- e.g., mersenne-82589933.mc.gz in Golly's Help > Online Archives > Computation ... Devices, which effectively speeds up a glider by one tick rather than slowing it down, but it would be easy to change it so that it added one to the period instead of subtracting one.
EDIT: On a second look, it seems a bit odd to use up so incredibly many *WSSes to do the block reset, when it's just a standard (2,1) block pull. Would something like this count as a completion?
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x = 103, y = 131, rule = LifeHistory
102.B$101.2B$100.3B$49.2A48.4B$48.A.A47.4B$13.5B24.2A4.A48.4B$13.5B
22.A2.A2.2A.4A12.A30.4B$13.5B22.2A.A.A.A.A2.A12.3A11.2A6.A7.4B$13.5B
25.A.ABABAB17.A5.2B2.B2AB4.A.A5.4B$13.5B25.A.AB2A2B16.2A4.4B.3B5.BA2B
3.4B$13.5B26.AB.4B16.3B.6B2.B7.2B3.4B$13.5B21.A7.4B18.21B.4B$13.5B19.
3A6.5B6.2A9.26B$13.5B18.A8.3B2AB6.A10.25B$13.5B17.A.A6.4B2AB3.BA.A11.
24B$13.5B16.BA.A5.10B.B2A12.23B$13.5B15.3BA5.13B15.24B$13.5B13.4B6.
14B17.14B6.2A$13.5B11.6B5.15B6.A11.10B9.A$13.5B10.7B4.4B2.8B8.3A9.11B
9.3A$13.5B3.B.4B.8B2.4B5.6B11.A7.13B10.A$13.5B2.2AB.17B4.9B9.2A5.16B$
13.5B2.2A18B5.2A4.4B8.23B$13.5B3.2B.16B6.A5.4B9.21B2.2A2.2A.2A$13.5B
6.16B3.3A7.4B7.2B2A18B2.A.A2.A.A.A$13.5B7.15B3.A10.4B5.2BA2BA17B3.B.
2A2.A.A$13.5B8.12B.B2A.A11.4B4.3B2A4B2.12B2.2B2.A.A.A$13.5B8.11B2.BA.
A.2A10.4B.9B4.5B.6B.2BAB.A2.A$13.5B9.10B5.A2.A11.12B6.3B2.8BA.A.3A$
13.5B9.6B2A2B5.2A14.10B5.5B2.8B.A.A$13.5B9.6B2A3B21.9B5.2A6.5B4.A2.2A
$13.5B9.10B23.9B5.A6.6B4.2A.3A$13.5B5.A.2AB.8B24.7B3.3A6.6B6.B4.A$13.
5B3.3AB2AB3.7B24.6B3.A8.7B3.B2AB3A$13.5B2.A4.B6.6B26.2B15.8B.B2A.A$
13.5B3.3A.2A4.6B44.10B$13.5B5.2A2.A4.5B43.3B2A6B$13.5B8.A.A.8B36.2A5.
2B2A6B$13.5B4.A.2A.A.A8B8.A28.A5.10B$13.5B4.2A.A.BA2B.6B6.3A28.A.AB2.
11B$13.5B7.A2.2B2.7B4.A32.2AB.12B$13.5B7.2A.B3.7B4.2A33.15B$13.5B5.2A
2.A.A2.8B.4B33.16B$13.5B4.A2.A2.2A2.11B35.16B.2B$13.5B5.2A7.12B34.18B
2A$13.5B14.12B33.17B.B2A$13.5B15.11B32.4B2.8B.4B.B$13.5B18.7B32.4B4.
7B$13.5B17.8B5.2A24.4B5.6B$13.5B16.8B6.A24.4B6.4B$13.5B17.8B2.BA.A23.
4B5.A3B$13.5B16.10B.B2A23.4B5.A.AB$13.5B16.12B24.4B6.A.A$13.5B16.12B
23.4B8.A$13.5B14.2AB2.9B22.4B6.3A$13.5B13.A.AB2.8B22.4B7.A$13.5B13.A
4.8B2.2B18.4B$13.5B12.2A4.8B.4B16.4B$13.5B17.14B15.4B$13.5B17.11B2AB
14.4B$13.5B17.11B2A2B12.4B$13.5B18.15B12.2B$13.5B20.13B$13.5B19.14B$
13.5B18.15B$13.5B18.14B$13.5B11.A7.13B$13.5B11.3A3.14B$13.5B14.A2.12B
$13.5B13.A2.12B$13.5B8.2A3.2A12B$13.5B8.A2.2A2.11B$13.5B9.2A2.2A10B$
13.5B11.A.A.B.8B$13.5B11.A2.A3.6B$13.5B12.2A4.5B$13.5B17.5B$13.5B16.
5B$13.5B15.5B$13.5B14.5B$13.5B13.5B$13.5B12.5B$13.5B11.5B$13.5B10.5B$
13.5B9.5B$13.5B8.5B$13.5B7.5B$13.5B6.5B$13.5B5.5B$13.5B4.5B$13.5B3.5B
$13.5B2.5B$13.5B.5B$13.10B$13.9B$13.8B$13.7B$13.6B$13.5B12$7.2C$7.2C
11$3A$2.A$.A2$14.3A$13.A2.A$16.A$16.A$13.A.A!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 10th, 2023, 2:10 am
by qqd
dvgrn wrote: June 9th, 2023, 4:46 pm
EDIT: On a second look, it seems a bit odd to use up so incredibly many *WSSes to do the block reset, when it's just a standard (2,1) block pull. Would something like this count as a completion?
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x = 103, y = 131, rule = LifeHistory
102.B$101.2B$100.3B$49.2A48.4B$48.A.A47.4B$13.5B24.2A4.A48.4B$13.5B
22.A2.A2.2A.4A12.A30.4B$13.5B22.2A.A.A.A.A2.A12.3A11.2A6.A7.4B$13.5B
25.A.ABABAB17.A5.2B2.B2AB4.A.A5.4B$13.5B25.A.AB2A2B16.2A4.4B.3B5.BA2B
3.4B$13.5B26.AB.4B16.3B.6B2.B7.2B3.4B$13.5B21.A7.4B18.21B.4B$13.5B19.
3A6.5B6.2A9.26B$13.5B18.A8.3B2AB6.A10.25B$13.5B17.A.A6.4B2AB3.BA.A11.
24B$13.5B16.BA.A5.10B.B2A12.23B$13.5B15.3BA5.13B15.24B$13.5B13.4B6.
14B17.14B6.2A$13.5B11.6B5.15B6.A11.10B9.A$13.5B10.7B4.4B2.8B8.3A9.11B
9.3A$13.5B3.B.4B.8B2.4B5.6B11.A7.13B10.A$13.5B2.2AB.17B4.9B9.2A5.16B$
13.5B2.2A18B5.2A4.4B8.23B$13.5B3.2B.16B6.A5.4B9.21B2.2A2.2A.2A$13.5B
6.16B3.3A7.4B7.2B2A18B2.A.A2.A.A.A$13.5B7.15B3.A10.4B5.2BA2BA17B3.B.
2A2.A.A$13.5B8.12B.B2A.A11.4B4.3B2A4B2.12B2.2B2.A.A.A$13.5B8.11B2.BA.
A.2A10.4B.9B4.5B.6B.2BAB.A2.A$13.5B9.10B5.A2.A11.12B6.3B2.8BA.A.3A$
13.5B9.6B2A2B5.2A14.10B5.5B2.8B.A.A$13.5B9.6B2A3B21.9B5.2A6.5B4.A2.2A
$13.5B9.10B23.9B5.A6.6B4.2A.3A$13.5B5.A.2AB.8B24.7B3.3A6.6B6.B4.A$13.
5B3.3AB2AB3.7B24.6B3.A8.7B3.B2AB3A$13.5B2.A4.B6.6B26.2B15.8B.B2A.A$
13.5B3.3A.2A4.6B44.10B$13.5B5.2A2.A4.5B43.3B2A6B$13.5B8.A.A.8B36.2A5.
2B2A6B$13.5B4.A.2A.A.A8B8.A28.A5.10B$13.5B4.2A.A.BA2B.6B6.3A28.A.AB2.
11B$13.5B7.A2.2B2.7B4.A32.2AB.12B$13.5B7.2A.B3.7B4.2A33.15B$13.5B5.2A
2.A.A2.8B.4B33.16B$13.5B4.A2.A2.2A2.11B35.16B.2B$13.5B5.2A7.12B34.18B
2A$13.5B14.12B33.17B.B2A$13.5B15.11B32.4B2.8B.4B.B$13.5B18.7B32.4B4.
7B$13.5B17.8B5.2A24.4B5.6B$13.5B16.8B6.A24.4B6.4B$13.5B17.8B2.BA.A23.
4B5.A3B$13.5B16.10B.B2A23.4B5.A.AB$13.5B16.12B24.4B6.A.A$13.5B16.12B
23.4B8.A$13.5B14.2AB2.9B22.4B6.3A$13.5B13.A.AB2.8B22.4B7.A$13.5B13.A
4.8B2.2B18.4B$13.5B12.2A4.8B.4B16.4B$13.5B17.14B15.4B$13.5B17.11B2AB
14.4B$13.5B17.11B2A2B12.4B$13.5B18.15B12.2B$13.5B20.13B$13.5B19.14B$
13.5B18.15B$13.5B18.14B$13.5B11.A7.13B$13.5B11.3A3.14B$13.5B14.A2.12B
$13.5B13.A2.12B$13.5B8.2A3.2A12B$13.5B8.A2.2A2.11B$13.5B9.2A2.2A10B$
13.5B11.A.A.B.8B$13.5B11.A2.A3.6B$13.5B12.2A4.5B$13.5B17.5B$13.5B16.
5B$13.5B15.5B$13.5B14.5B$13.5B13.5B$13.5B12.5B$13.5B11.5B$13.5B10.5B$
13.5B9.5B$13.5B8.5B$13.5B7.5B$13.5B6.5B$13.5B5.5B$13.5B4.5B$13.5B3.5B
$13.5B2.5B$13.5B.5B$13.10B$13.9B$13.8B$13.7B$13.6B$13.5B12$7.2C$7.2C
11$3A$2.A$.A2$14.3A$13.A2.A$16.A$16.A$13.A.A!
Well, if you could put the output glider on the same lane as the input gilder, then I would consider it complete, like so:
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x = 139, y = 145, rule = LifeHistory
13.5B81.2A11.A6.2A15.3B$13.5B80.B2AB9.A.A4.A2.A13.4B$13.5B81.3B9.A.A
3.A.3A2.2A8.4B$13.5B80.B.B9.2A.2A.A.A6.A7.4B$13.5B80.5B8.B2.A.A3.2A3.
A.AB3.4B$13.5B80.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A4.2AB.5B$13.5B80.8B4.2A.A.A3.A8.6B$13.
5B81.13B2.A.AB2.A7.5B$13.5B79.13B5.A.A2B.A6.6B.B$13.5B78.15B5.A2B.2A
6.8BA$13.5B78.15B4.3B10.7BA.A$13.5B77.17B.B.2B11.6B.BA$13.5B77.29B3.
7B$13.5B76.13B2A16B2.7B$13.5B75.14B2A17B.7B$13.5B74.2AB3.36B$13.5B73.
A2.A4.35B2.B$13.5B31.2A39.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B.B2A$13.5B30.A.A39.A7.
6B14.18B2A$13.5B24.2A4.A40.2A6.9B11.17B.2B$13.5B22.A2.A2.2A.4A12.A30.
4B4.2A9.19B$13.5B22.2A.A.A.A.A2.A12.3A11.2A6.A7.4B5.A10.21B$13.5B25.A
.ABABAB17.A5.2B2.B2AB4.A.A5.4B7.3A7.22B$13.5B25.A.AB2A2B16.2A4.4B.3B
5.BA2B3.4B10.A5.2AB.20B$13.5B26.AB.4B16.3B.6B2.B7.2B3.4B16.A.AB3.17B$
13.5B21.A7.4B18.21B.4B17.A6.6B2.8B$13.5B19.3A6.5B6.2A9.26B17.2A7.4B4.
7B$13.5B18.A8.3B2AB6.A10.25B25.5B5.6B$13.5B17.A.A6.4B2AB3.BA.A11.24B
25.2A9.6B$13.5B16.BA.A5.10B.B2A12.23B27.A11.2B.B2A$13.5B15.3BA5.13B
15.24B22.3A15.BA.A$13.5B13.4B6.14B17.14B6.2A22.A20.A$13.5B11.6B5.15B
6.A11.10B9.A44.2A$13.5B10.7B4.4B2.8B8.3A9.11B9.3A$13.5B3.B.4B.8B2.4B
5.6B11.A7.13B10.A$13.5B2.2AB.17B4.9B9.2A5.16B$13.5B2.2A18B5.2A4.4B8.
23B$13.5B3.2B.16B6.A5.4B9.21B2.2A2.2A.2A$13.5B6.16B3.3A7.4B7.2B2A18B
2.A.A2.A.A.A$13.5B7.15B3.A10.4B5.2BA2BA17B3.B.2A2.A.A$13.5B8.12B.B2A.
A11.4B4.3B2A4B2.12B2.2B2.A.A.A$13.5B8.11B2.BA.A.2A10.4B.9B4.5B.6B.2BA
B.A2.A$13.5B9.10B5.A2.A11.12B6.3B2.8BA.A.3A$13.5B9.6B2A2B5.2A14.10B5.
5B2.8B.A.A$13.5B9.6B2A3B21.9B5.2A6.5B4.A2.2A$13.5B9.10B23.9B5.A6.6B4.
2A.3A$13.5B5.A.2AB.8B24.7B3.3A6.6B6.B4.A$13.5B3.3AB2AB3.7B24.6B3.A8.
7B3.B2AB3A$13.5B2.A4.B6.6B26.2B15.8B.B2A.A$13.5B3.3A.2A4.6B44.10B$13.
5B5.2A2.A4.5B43.3B2A6B$13.5B8.A.A.8B36.2A5.2B2A6B$13.5B4.A.2A.A.A8B8.
A28.A5.10B$13.5B4.2A.A.BA2B.6B6.3A28.A.AB2.11B$13.5B7.A2.2B2.7B4.A32.
2AB.12B$13.5B7.2A.B3.7B4.2A33.15B$13.5B5.2A2.A.A2.8B.4B33.16B$13.5B4.
A2.A2.2A2.11B35.16B.2B$13.5B5.2A7.12B34.18B2A$13.5B14.12B33.17B.B2A$
13.5B15.11B32.4B2.8B.4B.B$13.5B18.7B32.4B4.7B$13.5B17.8B5.2A24.4B5.6B
$13.5B16.8B6.A24.4B6.4B$13.5B17.8B2.BA.A23.4B5.A3B$13.5B16.10B.B2A23.
4B5.A.AB$13.5B16.12B24.4B6.A.A$13.5B16.12B23.4B8.A$13.5B14.2AB2.9B22.
4B6.3A$13.5B13.A.AB2.8B22.4B7.A$13.5B13.A4.8B2.2B18.4B$13.5B12.2A4.8B
.4B16.4B$13.5B17.14B15.4B$13.5B17.11B2AB14.4B$13.5B17.11B2A2B12.4B$
13.5B18.15B10.4B$13.5B20.13B9.4B$13.5B19.14B8.4B$13.5B18.15B7.4B$13.
5B18.14B7.4B$13.5B11.A7.13B6.4B$13.5B11.3A3.14B6.4B$13.5B14.A2.12B7.
4B$13.5B13.A2.12B7.4B$13.5B8.2A3.2A12B7.4B$13.5B8.A2.2A2.11B7.4B$13.
5B9.2A2.2A10B7.4B$13.5B11.A.A.B.8B6.4B$13.5B11.A2.A3.6B6.4B$13.5B12.
2A4.5B6.4B$13.5B17.5B6.4B$13.5B16.5B6.4B$13.5B15.5B6.4B$13.5B14.5B6.
4B$13.5B13.5B6.4B$13.5B12.5B6.4B$13.5B11.5B6.4B$13.5B10.5B6.4B$13.5B
9.5B6.4B$13.5B8.5B6.4B$13.5B7.5B6.4B$13.5B6.5B6.4B$13.5B5.5B6.4B$13.
5B4.5B6.4B$13.5B3.5B6.4B$13.5B2.5B6.4B$13.5B.5B6.4B$13.10B6.4B$13.9B
6.4B$13.8B6.4B$13.7B6.4B$13.6B6.4B$13.5B6.4B$13.5B5.4B$12.6B4.4B$11.
7B3.4B$10.8B2.4B$9.9B.4B$8.4B.9B$7.4B2.8B$6.4B3.7B$5.4B4.6B$3.5B5.5B$
3.4B6.5B$3.4B2C3.6B$3.2B.B2CB.7B$5.4B.8B$6.12B$8.10B$7.5B.5B$6.4B3.5B
$5.4B4.5B$4.4B5.5B$3.4B6.5B$2.4B7.5B$.4B8.5B$3AB9.5B$2BA10.5B$.A11.5B
$13.5B$13.B3AB$13.A2BAB$13.3BAB$15.BAB$13.A.A!
However, the glider that restores the block could potentially collide with the LWSS stream from a gun. It also delays the glider by many ticks, not one. So I wouldn't consider this to be a 1-tick glider delayer.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 19th, 2023, 10:54 am
by GUYTU6J
iNoMed wrote: June 17th, 2023, 7:00 am
Somewhat-silly glider eater based on [a
stable version of] the
old phase-shifting p2 G4 receiver - can't get a signal out of it so it's going in here:
Code: Select all
x = 39, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
33b2o$33b2o$21bo$21b3o$5b2o17bo9b2o$6bo3b2o11b2o8bo2bo$5bo4bo22bobo$5b
4obo20bobobobo$9bo20bobobobobo$5b4o22bo2bo2bo$4bobo25b2ob2o$2o2bo28bob
o$obob2o27bobo$2bo22bo8bo$2b4o18bobo$2o3bo18bobo$bob2o20bo$o2bo$2o3bo$
4b2o11b2o$18b2o$17bo!
I can, though it is periodic rather than stable. Replacing some catalysts with a figure eight according to
one of my old posts yields a 0-degree colour-preserving reflector. With a repeat time of 80 ticks, the device shifts a glider by 6hd to a transparent lane.
Code: Select all
x = 40, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
2.2B$2.3B6.A$2B2AB5.2AB$2B2ABA4.ABAB19.2A$.4B.A4.4B13.2A3.A$3.A.4B2.
5B13.A4.A$4.AB2A2B.6B12.A.4A$5.B2A10B12.AB$5.3B3.7B.B3.2B6.4A$6.2B3.
17B.3B.A.A$11.21B.B.A2.2A$12.22B2A.A.A$13.BA21B.A$13.ABA18B4A$13.ABA
17B.AB2.2A$13.BA8B2.B.3B5.2A.A$13.6B2A2B13.A2.A$13.5B2A2B12.A3.2A$13.
7BA2B11.2A$14.4B2.4B$21.4B$22.3B$23.2B!
I suspect that there are other available periods with a high-clearance edgy domino sparker for this interaction.
---
Here is an 8-glider
xs16_c93gz3lp1 synthesis where the carrier terminal is exposed, allowing for application of a known long-bookend-adding fast component:
Code: Select all
x = 166, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
43bobo57bobo57bobo$43b2o58b2o58b2o$44bo59bo59bo$40bo59bo59bo$39bo28bob
o28bo28bobo28bo$39b3o27b2o28b3o27b2o28b3o$2bo18bobo38bo6bo11bobo38bo6b
o11bobo$obo10bo7b2o37bobo18b2o37bobo18b2o$b2o9bobo7bo38b2o19bo38b2o19b
o$12bobo11bo59bo59bo$13bo12bobo57bobo57bobo$26b2o58b2o58b2o$66bo59bo$
66b2o58b2o$65bobo57bobo8$99bo57bo$85bo11b2o44bo11b2o$86b2o10b2o44b2o
10b2o$85b2o56b2o3$14b2o58b2o58b2o$15b2o58b2o58b2o$14bo59bo59bo2$92b2o
56b2o$93b2o56b2o$92bo57bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 20th, 2023, 11:27 am
by qqd
Can the bottom block be replaced with a different catalyst or restored? (F130) (It works for the Herschel catalysis, but a B-heptomino destroys it.)
Code: Select all
x = 15, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bo$b3o5b2o$4bo4b2o$3b2o3$4b2o$4b2o3b2o$9b2o4$o$3o$3bo$2b2o7$bo$bobo$b
3o$3bo5$13b2o$13b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 22nd, 2023, 11:10 am
by Pyry Virtanen
Here is a 7x8 diehard that lasts 1001 generations, based on a recent soup. It is a predecessor of another diehard (generation 6) that has now occured six times in C1.
Code: Select all
x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
o6bo$o4b3o$obo4bo$o4bobo$o6bo$obo2b2o$bo3bo!
Edit: I removed an unnecessary cell at (1, 2).
And here is an 8x11 diehard that lasts 1119 ticks:
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x = 11, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
3o$5b2o$7bo$o5bo$bob4o3bo$2bobo5bo$b2o2bo4bo$2bo7bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 23rd, 2023, 9:40 am
by KtT
A twin bees shuttle can quadruple the period of a glider stream that is a multiple of 23 but not 46 or period 23. A P69 glider gun is attached for an example:
Code: Select all
x = 113, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
27b2o$23b2obobo9bo$24bobo9b3o$24bob2o7bo$21b2obo10b2o$21bo2b4o4bo7b2o
$22b2o3bo3bobo6bobo33bo$24b3o3bo2bo4bobob3o30bobo$24bo6b2o5b2o5bo23b2o
$22bobo19b2o23bo5bo2bo$22b2o43bobo6bobobob2o$63b2o2b2o8bo3b2obo$63b2o
14bo4bo$35b3o42b4o19b2o5b2o$35b2obo3b3o37bo20b2o5b2o$36bo7bo34bo2bo$24b
2o11bo6bo30b2o3b3o$23bobo16b2o31b2o5b2o$25bo13b2o23bobo16bo$33bo30bo2b
o14bobo$32bobo28bo3bo14b2o$26b2o4bobo4b2o24bob2o$26bo2bo3bo3bo2bo21b2o
3bo35b3o3b3o$27b3o7b3o22bo39bo2bo3bo2bo$51b2o10bo2bo35b2obo3bob2o$3b2o
20b7o3b7o8bobo10b3o15bo$4bo20bo6bobo6bo8bo31b2o$2bo23bobob2o3b2obobo8b
2o23bo6b2o$2b5o14b2o4b2obo5bob2o33bobob2o$7bo13bo10bobo36b3obobo$4b3o
12bobo9b2ob2o34bo3bo4bo$3bo15b2o50bo2bob4o$3b4o8bo47b2o7bobobo$b2o3bo
3b2o2b2o47b2o8bo3b3o24bo$o2b3o4b2o2bobo62bo22b2ob2o$2obo98b2ob2o$3bo$
3b2o44bo51bobobobo$47b2o$48b2o52b2ob2o$11b2o90b3o4b2o$12bo91bo5b2o$9b
3o20bo66bo$9bo22b3o65bo$35bo62b3o$34b2o5$31b3o$31bo4bo$32bo3bo7b2o$44b
obo$34bo2b2o7bo$38bo7b2o$36bobo$33b2o$32bo5bo$32bobo3bo$29b2obobobo4b
o$29bo2bo2b2ob4o$31b2o4bo$37bobo$38b2o!
Two twin bees shuttles act as a 0 degree reflector that triple the period of a glider stream that is a multiple of 46 but not 23. A P46 glidet gun is attached for an example:
Code: Select all
x = 54, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
44b2o5b2o$44b2o5b2o$24b2o$24b2o$13bo22bo$13b2o19b3o$2o9bob3o9b2o6bo$2o
13b2o8b2o6b2o$14b2o$14bo29b3o3b3o$43bo2bo3bo2bo$14bo16bo11b2obo3bob2o
$14b2o14b3o$2o13b2o$2o9bob3o$13b2o$13bo2$29bo$27bobo$28b2o15bo$43b2ob
2o$43b2ob2o2$42bobobobo2$43b2ob2o$44b3o4b2o$45bo5b2o$40bo$41bo$39b3o3$
25b2o$8b2o15bobo$8b2o17bo$25b3o$42bobo$43b2o$43bo$25b3o$8b2o17bo7b2o$
8b2o15bobo7b2o$25b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 26th, 2023, 2:44 am
by qqd
2c/49 diagonal partial (bookend reappears without a block):
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
2b3o$2bo2bo$2o2b2o$2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 26th, 2023, 5:49 pm
by C28
3b2o$4bo$o3bo$b3o to Century converter of questionable usefulness
Code: Select all
x = 18, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10bo$8bobo$8b2o3bo$12bobo$12bobo$11b2ob3o$17bo$11b2ob3o$11b2obo
4$3b2o$4bo$o3bo$b3o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 27th, 2023, 10:39 am
by Mr. T
Beacon + Blinker + Glider = Beacon + lots of ashes
Perhaps with some regulating elements some use can be made of it somehow?
Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
3o5$7b2o$7b2o$5b2o$5b2o3$7b3o$7bo$8bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 30th, 2023, 8:03 am
by hotcrystal0
This really looks like it’s in jslife osc-supported, but I actually think it’s new.
Code: Select all
x = 39, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o$bo10$13bo$14b2o$13b2o5$32b2o$18b3o11bo$17bo3bo8bobo$16bo5bo7b
2o$16bo5bo$16bo5bo$13b2o2bo3bo$12bobo3b3o$12bo$11b2o$30bo$29bo$27bo$25b
2o2$25bo2b2o$26b2o4$36b2o$36bobo$36bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: June 30th, 2023, 9:55 am
by dvgrn
hotcrystal0 wrote: June 30th, 2023, 8:03 am
This really looks like it’s in jslife osc-supported, but I actually think it’s new.
Code: Select all
x = 39, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o$bo10$13bo$14b2o$13b2o5$32b2o$18b3o11bo$17bo3bo8bobo$16bo5bo7b
2o$16bo5bo$16bo5bo$13b2o2bo3bo$12bobo3b3o$12bo$11b2o$30bo$29bo$27bo$25b
2o2$25bo2b2o$26b2o4$36b2o$36bobo$36bo!
In what way does it look like it's in jslife osc-supported? There isn't an "s0050.lif" file, and there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in
Sokwe's osc-supplement either.
That's not to say that somebody hasn't found it before -- I haven't thoroughly looked at the three pages of p50s in the Oscillator Discussion thread, but the p50 honeyfarm hassler that shows up is a dimer, not a monomer like this one.
No doubt this can be done smaller with p5 bumpers or some such, but support is possible with just Snarks:
Code: Select all
x = 107, y = 122, rule = LifeHistory
65.2A$64.A.A$58.2A4.A$56.A2.A2.2A.4A$56.2A.A.A.A.B2.A$59.A.ABAB2A$59.
A.4AB$60.2A.AB$63.ABA$63.3AB6.2A$61.2ABA2B6.A$61.2A4B3.BA.A$59.B4A5B.
B2A$58.B2A2BA7B$57.B2A11B$56.15B$55.4B2.8B$54.4B5.6B$53.4B4.9B$52.4B
5.2A4.4B$51.4B7.A5.3BA$50.4B5.3A7.B2AB$49.4B6.A10.ABAB$48.4B19.4B$47.
4B21.4B$46.ABAB23.4B$31.A13.B2AB25.4B$31.3A10.3BA27.4B$34.A8.4B29.4B$
33.2A7.4B31.4B$33.5B3.4B33.4B$35.3B2.4B35.4B$25.2A7.9B37.4B$25.A8.8B
20.2A17.2B2A$22.2A.A.B3.10B21.A.A17.2A2B$22.A2.3AB.5B3A3B23.A4.2A12.B
A2B$23.2A2.BA6BA2BA2B19.4A.2A2.A2.A11.4B$25.4A6B2ABA2B19.A2.A.A.A.A.
2A12.4B$25.A.2B3.5BAB.B2A19.BABABA.A16.4B$26.3AB2.7B.BA.A19.B2ABA.A
17.4B$29.A4.4B5.A20.2B.BA19.4B10.2A$24.5A5.4B5.2A18.3B23.4B9.A$24.A
10.4B15.2A6.4B24.4B10.A$26.A9.4B15.A6.B2A3B16.2A5.4B5.5A$25.2A10.4B
14.A.AB3.B2A3B17.A5.4B4.A$38.4B14.2AB.10B15.A.AB.7B2.B3A$39.4B15.13B
15.2AB.B3A3B3.2B.A$40.4B14.11BABA16.2BAB2A6B4A$41.4B3.B9.12B2AB10.A4.
2BA3BA5BAB2.2A$42.BABA.3B10.8B2.A3B7.3A4.3B3A5B.B3A2.A$43.B2A5B9.6B5.
4B5.A7.3B3A4B3.B.A.2A$29.2A13.A6B8.9B4.4B4.2A5.8B8.A$28.A.A14.6B7.2A
2B4.2A5.9B4.9B7.2A$22.2A4.A15.8B5.2B2A5.A7.BA4B5.4B2.3B$20.A2.A2.2A.
4A11.9B3.2BAB7.3A4.2A6B2.4B3.5B$20.2A.A.A.A.A2.A11.9B2.4B10.A2.BAB6AB
A4B7.2A$23.A.ABABAB14.8B.4B5.2A7.3A2BAB2A2B2AB8.A$23.A.AB2AB16.4BA7B
5.A8.2A4BA4BAB10.3A$24.AB.2B18.2BABA7B.BA.A6.3A.2A5B2AB13.A$27.3B16.
2BA3BA6B.B2A6.A.AB3.A3BAB$27.4B6.2A7.2BA3BA8B8.A6.ABABAB$25.3B2AB6.A
8.2BA3BA8B7.2A6.B3A$25.3B2AB3.BA.A6.2AB.BABA9B16.BAB$9.A13.10B.B2A6.A
.AB.2BA9B18.2B.BA$9.3A10.13B8.A5.12B16.B2ABA.A$12.A8.14B7.2A5.4B.8B
14.BABABA.A$11.2A7.9B2A4B2.A10.4B2.7B2A11.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$11.5B3.4B2.4B
ABAB4.3A7.4B3.7B2A11.4A.2A2.A2.A$13.3B2.A3B5.2BA3B7.A5.4B5.6BAB15.A4.
2A$3.2A7.5BA3B4.9B5.2A4.4B7.2BABAB14.A.A$3.A8.5B3A5.2A4.4B4.9B8.2ABA
3B13.2A$2A.A.B3.10B7.A5.4B5.6B9.BABA4B$A2.3AB.2B2A7B4.3A7.4B2.8B10.BA
B.4B$.2A2.BA3B2A7B4.A10.7BA7B9.B3.4B$3.4A12B16.5B3A6B14.4B$3.A.2B3.7B
.B2A15.4B2A7B15.4B$4.3AB2.7B.BA.A15.10B.B2A14.4B$7.A4.4B5.A17.3B2AB3.
BA.A14.B3A10.2A$2.5A5.4B5.2A16.3B2AB6.A15.A3B9.A$2.A10.4B24.4B6.2A15.
A3B10.A$4.A9.3BA23.3B18.2A5.4B5.5A$3.2A10.ABAB19.AB.2B20.A5.4B4.A$16.
2A2B17.A.AB2AB19.A.AB.7B2.B3A$17.4B16.A.ABABAB19.2AB.7B3.2B.A$18.4B
12.2A.A.A.A.A2.A19.12B4A$19.4B11.A2.A2.2A.4A19.7B2A3BAB2.2A$20.4B12.
2A4.A23.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$21.4B17.A.A21.10B3.B.A.2A$22.4B17.2A20.2A6B8.A$
23.4B37.ABA6B7.2A$24.4B35.3BA2.3B$25.4B33.4B3.5B$26.3BA31.4B7.2A$27.
3BA29.4B8.A$28.3AB27.4B10.3A$29.4B25.4B13.A$30.4B23.4B$31.4B21.4B$32.
4B19.4B$33.4B10.A6.4B$34.4B7.3A5.4B$35.4B5.A7.3AB$36.4B4.2A5.3BA$37.
9B4.3BA$38.6B5.4B$38.4BA3B2.4B$36.4BABA8B$36.5B2A7B$36.13B$34.2AB.10B
$33.A.AB3.B2A3B$33.A6.B2A3B$32.2A6.4B$41.3B$42.2B.BA$41.B2ABA.A$40.BA
BABA.A$38.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$38.4A.2A2.A2.A$42.A4.2A$40.A.A$40.2A!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: July 5th, 2023, 11:32 am
by qqd
hotdogPi wrote: July 4th, 2023, 9:16 am
p159, Mitchell Riley, both blinkers phase-shift correctly
Code: Select all
x = 45, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
34bo$34bo$34bo8$2o$bo22b2ob2o$bobo20b2ob2o8b3o$2b2o22bo$18bo22b2o$5b3o
8b2ob2o20bobo$16b2ob2o22bo$43b2o8$10bo$10bo$10bo!
So close:
Code: Select all
x = 45, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$9bo4bobob2obo$9b3o4bobob2o$12bo3b2o$11b2o7$34bo$34bo$34bo5$3b2o$
3b2o2$2o$bo22b2ob2o$bobo20b2ob2o8b3o$2b2o22bo$18bo22b2o$5b3o8b2ob2o20b
obo$16b2ob2o22bo$43b2o2$40b2o$40b2o5$10bo$10bo$10bo7$32b2o$27b2o3bo$
23b2obobo4b3o$23bob2obobo4bo$29b2o!
Of course, you can always put p159 guns to clear up the blocks, but that won't be an elegant solution.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: July 12th, 2023, 8:45 am
by GUYTU6J
No one pays attention to the
p8 glider shifter above?
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This soup produces an all-natural 1-glider seed for a cis-mold [on/and] dock (
xp4_3lk453z34ats):
Code: Select all
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
b8obobo2bo$5o2b3o2b3o$o2b2o2b3ob4o$b4obobob4obo$b3ob4o3b3o$3o6bo4bo$2b
ob5ob3ob2o$2b2obob3ob4o$2ob3obobob5o$o2b7o2bobo$bo2bo2b2o3b4o$o2bobo3b
6o$7bobobo$b4obob3obobo$2obobo2b2obo$bo3bo3bob2obo!
#C [[ ZOOM 8 X 5 Y -5 T 166 PAUSE 2 T 185 GPS 20 ]]
The loaf-to-induction dock conversion is known, in which four cells from the loaf stay alive throughout the course. But should we call reactions acting on a loaf like the following one "synthesis components"?
Code: Select all
x = 31, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$bobo9b2o$2bo9b2o$8bo5bo$8b2o$7bobo8$6bo$6b2o$5bobo15b2o$23bob
o$23bo4b2o$28bobo$28bo2$2b2o$3b2o$2bo!
#C [[ Y -2 ]]
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: July 12th, 2023, 9:35 am
by qqd
Two-gilders to some kind of face (rotated 90 degrees):
Code: Select all
x = 33, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
10bo$11bo$9b3o2$bo$b3o$4bo$3b2o17$2o$2o29b2o$31b2o2$31b2o$2o29b2o$2o
17$3b2o$4bo$b3o$bo2$9b3o$11bo$10bo!
The transparent bi-block reaction might be helpful to find more useful symmetric conduits.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: July 13th, 2023, 10:15 pm
by hotcrystal0
squareroot12621 wrote: June 4th, 2023, 11:02 am
qqd wrote: June 4th, 2023, 10:30 am
Is this transparent reaction useful? (Acts on a B):
Code: Select all
x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o3$6bo$5b3o$4b2obo!
Maybe—this conduit produces two gliders, but also two blocks.
Code: Select all
x = 48, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
31.2A$31.2A4$46.2A$46.A$44.A.A$44.2A5$36.D$18.2D17.2D$13.D4.2D16.2D$12.
2D$2.2A8.D.D$.A.A$.A$2A5$20.2D$20.2D3$11.2A$11.2A17.2A$30.2A2$17.C$16.
3C$15.2C.C!
The blocks can be cleaned up with one glider, but I can't seem to put some of the smaller reflectors together to get a 1hd offset:
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x = 48, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
31.2A$31.2A4$46.2A$12.D2.D5.D24.A$11.2D2.D5.D22.A.A$5.2D5.D2.2D3.2D22.
2A$4.2D6.D2.D.D.D.D$6.D.D2.3D.D.D2.2D$9.D$10.D.D$11.2D$10.3D5.2D$18.2D
$13.D.D$2.2A10.2D$.A.A10.D$.A$2A5$20.2D$20.2D3$11.2A$11.2A17.2A$30.2A
2$17.C$16.3C$15.2C.C!
This works, but is periodic and has a horrible repeat time:
Code: Select all
x = 64, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
10.2A4.A$10.2A3.A.A$16.A3$3.2A2.2A$3.2A2.2A$47.2A$47.2A2$2.2A$2.A$3.8A
51.2A$3A2.5A.A16.D2.D5.D24.A$A2.A2.3A18.2D2.D5.D22.A.A$.2A7.A.A8.2D5.
D2.2D3.2D22.2A$11.2A7.2D6.D2.D.D.D.D$12.A9.D.D2.3D.D.D2.2D$8.A2.A2.A10.
D$6.3A2.A3.A10.D.D$5.A3.2A4.A11.2D$6.3A.7A9.3D5.2D$8.A7.A17.2D$11.5A13.
D.D$10.A2.A4.2A10.2D$10.2A5.A.A10.D$17.A$16.2A5$36.2D$36.2D3$27.2A$27.
2A17.2A$46.2A2$33.C$32.3C$31.2C.C!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: July 20th, 2023, 9:45 pm
by Period1GliderGun
p2 color-changing 0-degree reflector, repeat time 50:
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x = 26, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
8bo$8b3o$11bo$10b2o2$6b2o$5bo2bo16bo$5bob2o14b3o$4b2o16bo$3bo3b2o13b2o
$4b3o2bo$7b2obo6bo$6bo2bo6bobo$6b2o8bobo$17bo$13b3o$15bo$14bo4$19b3o2$
23bo$23bo$23bo$14b2o$b2o10bobo3b3o$obo10bo$2bo9b2o!
Some more completions with periods 4-10 can be found
here.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: July 21st, 2023, 11:45 am
by qqd
This pattern almost rotates itself 90 degrees in 45 ticks, the block is just one diagonal cell off:
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x = 11, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
5.2A$5.2A3$2.2A$.A.A$2A$2DA$2D2A$4.A4.2D$3.ACD2.D.D$4.D2.2D$5.2D$6.D!
The active region colliding with the block, strangely, is made up of a block and glider and another copy itself rotated 90 degrees.
2 new discoveries
Posted: August 6th, 2023, 4:49 pm
by JonasS
Hello! I made 2 discoveries. I looked throught the entire
https://playgameoflife.com/lexicon lexicon. Both are not in there. So I guess, they are new. I made the names too. Discovered 6th August 2023. So here they are:
2-Pi-heptomino-mess (2Phm)
2 Pi-heptominos facing witht he openings to eachother 2 bits apart.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cVtZ39 ... drive_link
P-pentomino-and-Block-glider-maker (PpaBgm)
a P-pentomino with a Block making a glider in generation 7.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O6vW3r ... drive_link
I hope they are new discoveries. Please tell me, if they are or not.
~Greetings
~JonasS
Re: 2 new discoveries
Posted: August 6th, 2023, 8:17 pm
by hotdogPi
The first is notable, but it's already known; it's the basis of the
p44 pi-heptomino hassler.
The second is just random scribbling. Pure glider generators stopped being notable in the early 1970s.
JonasS new discoveries
Posted: August 6th, 2023, 8:17 pm
by johamwit
Hello! I made 2 discoveries. I looked throught the entire
https://playgameoflife.com/lexicon lexicon. Both are not in there. So I guess, they are new. I made the names too. Discovered 6th August 2023. So here they are:
2-Pi-heptomino-mess (2Phm)
2 Pi-heptominos facing witht he openings to eachother 2 bits apart.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cVtZ39 ... drive_link
P-pentomino-and-Block-glider-maker (PpaBgm)
a P-pentomino with a Block making a glider in generation 7.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O6vW3r ... drive_link
I hope they are new discoveries. Please tell me, if they are or not.
~Greetings
~JonasS
Plz, do your homework: read the forum rules. Learn the forum customs and respect them. ( hint: in the first post, newcomers humblily present themselves )
Teach yourself on the subject... ther are
some patterns not covered in the lexicon.
The book is a good starting point.
Don't force us to follow links just to know how your "discoveries" look like. A little digging in this pages will tell you how to post your patterns like this:
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x = 18, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
3$7.2E$7.2E2$9.E$8.2E$8.2E7$4.3E2.3E$4.E6.E$4.3E2.3E!
Don't start a new thread unless there is a very good reason. There are already too many of them.
And . . .
WELCOME TO CONWAYLIFE !! 
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: August 8th, 2023, 6:19 am
by TYCF
What is this ?
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x = 300, y = 252, rule = B3/S23
58$78b3o$82bo$82b2o13bo$82bo2bo11bo$83bobo11bo$83bo$82b2o14bo$81bobo13b
obo$83b2o11bo8b2o$75b2o3b2o14bo2bo5b2o$82bo12b2obo$74bo3bo15b3o$79bo9b
o5b2ob2o$72bo7bo7bobo4bo2b2o$71bo4bo11bobo5b3o$72bobobo4bo7bo7bo$53bo
18bo8bo31b2o$52b2o19bo4b2obo31b2o$51bob2o19bob2ob3o$51bo2b2o19b3ob2o$
49b4ob3o40bo$48bo2bobo2b2o38bobo$49bobobob3o38bobo$50b2ob3obo39bo$50b
4o2bobo62b2o$53bo3bo63b2o$22b2o29bo3bo$21b2o30bo2bo12b2o$23bo45b2o3$74b
2ob2o23b2o$54b2o13b2o3b3obo22bo27b2o$69bob3o4bo22bo2bo24b2o$69bobo3bo
bo21b2ob4o$70bo2bobobo20bo20b3o$71b2o25bo3b3o2bo$59b2o37bo2bo2bob3o3b
obo$58bo2bo38b2o4b3o4bo$51b3o4bo2b2o8bo30b2obobo$57bo2b2o9b2o30b2obo14b
o6b2o7b2o$57b4o9bo2bo32bo12b4o5b2o7b2o$71bobo44bo3bo$71b2o45bo2bo$119b
3o$63bo$64b2o$57b2o2bo2bo$57b2o2bo2bo71b2o7b2o$65bo70b2o7b2o$64b4o55b
2o$62bo2bobo55bobo$61b2o4b2o39b2o13bo$66bo41b2o2$129bo99b2o$128bobo22b
2o73bobo$153b2o73b2o$129bo$128b2o13b2o$116b2o10b2o13bobo$116b2o12bo13b
o$130bo4b2o$121bo13b2o$120b3o38b2o$119bo8bo32b2o$121bo2bo3b3o107b2o22b
2o$121bo3b3o110b2o21bobo$123b2o136b2o$121bo3$160b2o7b2o$160b2o7b2o25b
2o$195b2o37b2o$197bo36b2o$149bo$148bobo40bo79b2o$135bo12b2o36bo4b2o78b
2o$134bobo48b3o2bo2bo$134b2o53b4o$186bob4o$186b2obo3b4o$193b5o$144bo46b
o6bo$143bobo12b2o30b8o$143b2o13b2o31b2obobo$174b2o18b2o30b2o$162b2o10b
o18b3o30b2o$161bo31bobo$86b2o87bobo16b3obo$85b2o70bo18bo12b2o4b3obo$87b
o68bo23b2o6bobo5b3o$156b3o20bo2bo6bo7bo$180b4o$160bo23bo44bo$159b3o18b
3o2bo11b2o29bobo$144b2o12bo2bo17bo5b3o10bo29bobo$143bo2bo10bo2bo22b2o
b4o4bo4bo29bo29b2o$144b2o12bobo21bo4bo2bo6bob2o58b2o$158bobo28b4o5bo$
140b3o16b2o8bo19bo2b2o4b2o$159b3o5b4o3b2o17b4obo$144bo16b3ob3o3bo2b2o
10bo7b3obo58bo$144bo17b2o5b2o13b2o8bob4o23b2o31bobo$144bo21b4o15b2o9b
o2bo23b2o31bobo$167bo29bo2bo56bo$146b2o53bo$146b2o33bo14bo3bo60b2o$180b
obo14b3o18b2o40bo2bo$167bo12b2o34b3o9bo18b2o12b2o$166bobo47b2o4bo2b5o
17b2o$166b2o51bob2o7bo26bo$220b3o5b2o26bobo$227b2o27bobo$226bo14bo15b
o$176bo34bo29bo$175bobo32bo30bo$175b2o33bobo$211b2obo31b2o$138b2o67bo
5b3o30bo2bo$138b2o67bo5b3o30b2obo$207bo12bo26bo$219bo27b3o$221bo25bo2b
o$195b2o24bo24bo3bo$194bo2bo49bo3bo$195b2o22bo31bo$134b2o82bobo2bo24b
2o2bo$134b2o40b2o40bo4bo24bo$175bo2bo40bo23bob2o2bo6b2o$176b2o42bo20b
o2bob4o6bobo$228b2o11bo2bobob2o5b2ob2o$172b3o53b2o11bo4b2o7b2o$218b2o
8b2o12bobobo2bo4b2o2b2o$176bo40b2o8b2o20b2o4b2o2bo$176bo41bobo6b3o4b3o
7b4o4b2o2bo$176bo31b2o8bob2o6bo5bobo8bo4bo2bo2bo2bo$144b2o61bo2bo4b2o
2bo8b3o3bo2bo12b2o6bo$143bobo32b2o28bo6bobo8bo8bobo8b2o$143b2o33b2o38b
3o3bob2o3b3o3b2o6bo5bo$219bo12b2o2b2ob2o3b4ob2obo$214b2o6b2o3bo3bobo2b
5ob4o2b5o$223b3ob4o6b2ob2ob2o2b2ob2o$211b3o12b2o8b3o4bo3b2obo$214b2o2b
5o3bo8bo13bo$213b3o9bo4b2o2b3o$207b2o8bo4bobo5bo4bobo$207bo3bo5bob4ob
2o5bo3bo4bo$208bo2bo3bo6b3o10bo4bo$208b2o5b2o18bo4bo$215bo20b4o$170b2o
65b2o$170b2o$240bo$239bob2o$240bobo5bo$240b3o4bobo43b2o$218bo28bobo43b
obo$218bo29bo45b2o$166b2o50bo$166b2o40b2o62b2o$207bo2bo60bo2bo$208b2o
62b2o2$204b3o54b2o$260bo2bo$208bo52b2o$208bo75b2o$208bo17b3o55b2o$176b
2o$175bobo32b2o$175b2o33b2o4$251b2o35b2o$251b2o35b2o4$229b2o$229bobo$
229bo$202b2o34b2o$202b2o34b2o4$276b2o$276b2o2$198b2o$198b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: August 8th, 2023, 10:03 am
by dvgrn
TYCF wrote: August 8th, 2023, 6:19 am
What is this ?
The part to the northwest is a somewhat messy way of producing the same glider output as a
glider-producing switch engine, but with four engines instead of one. So this is another case where it's possible to create millions of different puffer variants with the same number of switch engines, none of which are any more interesting than any of the others, that all produce the same glider output plus varying amounts of random junk.
The rest looks like chaotic leftover debris; it might be better to trim that kind of extraneous mess out before posting.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: August 8th, 2023, 12:02 pm
by TYCF
dvgrn wrote: August 8th, 2023, 10:03 am
I removed the leftover debris.
Edit: One-cell-thick
pulsar predecessor.
Code: Select all
x = 44, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4$2bo2bo2bobo2bob2o2bob5ob5obo2bo!
Almost a
pulsar.
Code: Select all
x = 13, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
$7b5o2$b5o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: August 9th, 2023, 10:02 am
by mniemiec
TYCF wrote: August 8th, 2023, 12:02 pmEdit: One-cell-thick
pulsar predecessor. ...
The two 1x5 lines alone would do that, without needing any of the other bits. Each of those forms a solid 3x3 block, and both solid and hollow 3x3 blocks form pre-pre-traffic lights in 2 generations, and full traffic lights 2 generations later. If two such patterns are adjacent to each other with their centers 6 spaces apart, they form a pulsar instead.
Traffic light predecessors are incredibly resilient, and hassling them in one way or other forms the basis for a very large number of oscillators of varying periods. The pulsar itself is the smallest example of this.