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Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: September 4th, 2020, 10:24 am
by Moosey
Is it possible to have a rule where (stable, at least) object (or even just spaceship) speeds are bounded above some unreachable limit, say, c/2, and for any reachable speed there exists a higher reachable speed; that is to say, any (stable) object (/just spaceship) that exists in the rule can be caught up to by a spaceship (of higher speed)?
This would be interesting because it trivially implies that no object can be fast enough to be unreachable-- a phenomenon which crops up a lot in a lot of rules, incuding most visibly B2 rules; any domino with nothing in front of it or within two steps to its sides cannot be stopped from travelling at C forever. A similar phenomenon exists even in GoL; a sufficiently distant LWSS travelling through empty space away from some object is unreachable by said object (sure, you could send a superstring at it, but for any object with a certain horizontal width there is a distance such that the LWSS is unreachable even that way since the superstring's distance it could travel is bounded above by approximately the quantity of generations, divided by two.[citation needed]
The cool thing about the rule I described is that since (stable) object (/just spaceship) speeds are bounded above by an
unreachable limit, all spaceships can be caught up to by an even faster ship.
EDIT: unrelatedly, what's the
checkerboard dual of B3/S234c?
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: September 8th, 2020, 10:06 pm
by LaundryPizza03
On white cells it behaves like B1e3ajkr5inqy7c/S1e2ei3ajkr4jr5inqy6cn7c8, while on black cells it behaves like B1e2-cn3-inqy4-ny5-ajkr6-ei7c8/S01e23-inqy45-ajkr67c8.
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: September 10th, 2020, 7:39 am
by silversmith
Moosey wrote: September 4th, 2020, 10:24 am
Is it possible to have a rule where (stable, at least) object (or even just spaceship) speeds are bounded above some unreachable limit, say, c/2, and for any reachable speed there exists a higher reachable speed; that is to say, any (stable) object (/just spaceship) that exists in the rule can be caught up to by a spaceship (of higher speed)?
Here is a rule similar to what you are asking. If you could find a rule with similar mechanics where an adjustable spaceship is faster than all other kind of spaceship, I think it would meet your requirements. This one would not work because the small ship at the back is faster than all these adjustable ships.
kiho park wrote: August 3rd, 2020, 7:16 am
After few days of LLS searching, I found new type of adjustable spaceship using c2o wickstretcher and a c2o spaceship.
If following spaceship hits the tail of the wickstretcher, then chasing spaceship is delayed and the line wickstretcher start to burning while the "fire" reach to the front of wickstretcher then wickstretcher delayed too.
Delaying an 1 generation for every collision, speed is (12+2*n)c/(25+4*n) for n>=0
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x = 13, y = 35, rule = B2ce3akqry4aekwyz5-jr6ce7e8/S12aik3-aikr4acnqty5ejnry6ace7c
4bo7bo$4b2o4b2o$4bo7bo6$3bo8bo$3b2o5b2o$3bo8bo6$2bo9bo$2b2o6b2o$2bo9bo
6$bo10bo$b2o7b2o$bo10bo6$o11bo$2o8b2o$o11bo!
Delaying 2 generations for every collisions, speed is (8+2*n)c/(18+4*n) for n >= 0
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x = 22, y = 99, rule = B2-ak3acn4-ktwy5-kqr7c/S12aik3ekny4akrtz5ny6acn7
12b2o6bo$12bo4b3obo$12b2o6bo6$11b2o7bo$11bo5b3obo$11b2o7bo6$10b2o8bo$
10bo6b3obo$10b2o8bo6$9b2o9bo$9bo7b3obo$9b2o9bo6$8b2o10bo$8bo8b3obo$8b
2o10bo6$7b2o11bo$7bo9b3obo$7b2o11bo6$6b2o12bo$6bo10b3obo$6b2o12bo6$5b
2o13bo$5bo11b3obo$5b2o13bo6$4b2o14bo$4bo12b3obo$4b2o14bo6$3b2o15bo$3bo
13b3obo$3b2o15bo6$2b2o16bo$2bo14b3obo$2b2o16bo6$b2o17bo$bo15b3obo$b2o
17bo6$2o18bo$o16b3obo$2o18bo!
I also trying to find other adjustable spaceships advancing or shifting instead of delaying them or using other speed such as c3o, c4o, c5o, 2c5 and 2c3o or faster speeds.
Furthermore, I'll also try diagonal or oblique design if possible.
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: September 13th, 2020, 7:55 pm
by wwei23
What spaceship speeds in Gems have been ruled out at what widths?
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: September 13th, 2020, 8:03 pm
by LaundryPizza03
From
this thread:
c/4o, width 16 even
c/5o, width 25 odd
c/7o, width 19 odd
c/7o, width 18 even
c/7d, width 15 bilateral
c/9o, width 15 odd
c/9o, width 16 even
I'm currently searching for even c/9o at width 18.
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 3:27 pm
by silversmith
Would this be a tagalong, flotilla, or something else?
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x = 26, y = 24, rule = 1e2-a3-cij4aijkrtz5cnqr/2ce3aejnr4aj5y6a/3
8.BA2.BA$7.10A$6.2A8.A$7.5A2.3A$10.2A3.AB2A$10.2A6.A$9.B.7AB$7.B9.2A$
6.B11A$6.A10.A$6.B11A$7.B9.2A$9.B.7AB$10.2A6.A$10.2A3.AB2A$7.5A2.3A$
6.2A8.A$7.10A$8.BA2.BA$2.BA$.25A$2A23.A$.24A$2.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA!
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 3:31 pm
by praosylen
silversmith wrote: September 23rd, 2020, 3:27 pm
Would this be a tagalong, flotilla, or something else?
I believe it's a tagalong, since the bottom segment doesn't work if the supporting ship is removed.
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 3:41 pm
by wwei23
Why are Corderships so much harder to find in B3/S236e, the one other rule where the switch engine works?
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 11:31 pm
by goldenratio
Is there even a way to stabilize the switch engine in that rule at all? I tried for about ten minutes and gave up.
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 11:36 pm
by wwei23
goldenratio wrote: September 23rd, 2020, 11:31 pm
Is there even a way to stabilize the switch engine in that rule at all?
I was able to make these three corderships from the things in my cordership collection that actually worked at all. Two are mutually-canceling puffers, and one just happened to work in this rule as a spaceship as well.
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x = 288, y = 98, rule = B3/S236e
19bobo126bo92b3o$19bobo4b3obo115b2ob2o90bobo$18bo5bo4bob2o207bo3bo$18b
o2bo2bo4b2o115b2o92bo3bo$18bo2bo2bo121bo78b2o17bo$20bo4bo105b2o15bo3bo
72b2o11b2o4bo$8b2o16bo2bo101b2o11bo3bo88bo6bo$8b2o17b2o208bo5bo$242b2o
$150bo86bo3bo$147b3o76b2o10bobo$226bo$131bo85b2o6b3o$21bo101b2o6bobo
13b3o67b2o22b3o$2o18bobo100b2o6bobo92bo13bo3bo$2o17bo2bo18bo90bo16bo
75bo14bo2bo$20b2o17b2ob2o87b2o92b2o13b2o$39b2o90b2o7bo$24b2o15b3o95bob
o103bo$24b2o11bo3bo97bobo14bo87bobo2b2o7b2o$38bo3bo97bo6b2o5b2ob4o48b
2o32bo3b4o6b3o$37bob3o73b2o36b2ob3ob2o47b2o35bo7bobob2o$32bo5b2o75b2o
30bo6bob3obo67b2obo9b2obo10b2o$31bobo4bobo89b2o14b2o4b4o3bo69bo3bo8bob
o$31bobo5bo90b3o18b3ob2o72bo3bo9bo$32bo6b2o87bo3bo18b5o17bo57bobo$8b3o
28b2o86bo5bo20bo16b2ob2o$7bo3bo26b2o87bo5bo$9b2o27b3o87bob2obo37b2o28b
2o38bo24b3o$4b2ob2o45bobo50b2o22bo39bo29b2o37bobo23b3o$5b2o45bobobo50b
2o24bo39bo3bo62bobo24bo$51bob2o2bo71b4obo34bo3bo67bo23b2o$44bob2obobo
3b2o73b5o130bo$44b5ob2o3b2o75bo30b2o101bo$18bo25b2o3b2obo109bo2bo9bo$
17bobo31bobo59bo49b2o7b3o31b3o$17bobo91b2ob2o90bobo$16bo2bo79b2o104bo
3bo57b2o$16bobo80b2o10b2o59b3o30bo3bo57b2o$15bo32b2o61bo60b3o34bo57bo$
15b2o30bo2bo19bo42bo3bo52b2ob2o28b2o4bo57bo$16bo31b2o20bo38bo3bo41b2o
13bo31bo6bo56bobo$69bobo82bo2bo12b3o29bo5bo60bo$66bo2b2o84b2o50b2o55b
2o2bo4bo7b5o$65bo5bo23b2o18bo86bo3bo56bo3bo4bobo4b2o5b2o$65bo5bo18bo6b
o14b3o76b2o10bobo51b2o5b2o8bo4bo7bo$66bo4bo18bo3b3o94bo64bo2bo5bo5bo2b
o3bo7b2o$53b2o12bo22bo4bo94b3o64b2o12b3o3bo6b2o$53b2o13b3o41b3o91b3o
73bo$191bo13bo3bo67bo4bo$57b2o55bo53b2o20bo14bo2bo69bob2o$56bo2bo8b2ob
2o95b2o20b2o13b2o$56bobo8bo37bo$35b3o19bo13b2o31bobo103bo$34bo3bo29b3o
33bobo14bo87bobo2b2o7b2o37b3o$36b2o67bo6b2o5b2ob4o82bo3b4o6b3o$31b2ob
2o82b2ob3ob2o84bo7bobob2o37bo2bo$32b2o78bo6bob3obo67b2obo9b2obo10b2o$
95b2o14b2o4b4o3bo35b2o32bo3bo8bobo53b3o$95b3o18b3ob2o38b2o32bo3bo9bo
56bo$93bo3bo18b5o17bo57bobo76bobo$45bo46bo5bo20bo16b2ob2o130bobob3o4b
2o$44bobo45bo5bo172b2o2bo6b2o$44bobo18b2o26bob2obo37b2o68bo24b3o$43bo
2bo18b2o29bo39bo68bobo23b3o$43bobo52bo39bo3bo62bobo24bo$42bo51b4obo34b
o3bo13b2o52bo23b2o$42b2o51b5o52b2o76bo$43bo53bo30b2o101bo$127bo2bo9bo
133b2o$128b2o7b3o134b2o$57b2o$57b2o173b2o$137b3o92b2o$137b3o4b2o86bo$
135b2ob2o4b2o86bo$120b2o13bo95bobo$119bo2bo12b3o96bo31b2o$120b2o107b2o
2bo4bo7b5o15b2o$228bo3bo4bobo4b2o5b2o$222b2o5b2o8bo4bo7bo$221bo2bo5bo
5bo2bo3bo7b2o$136b2o84b2o12b3o3bo6b2o$136b2o109bo$242bo4bo$243bob2o11b
2o$258b2o3$227b3o2$227bo2bo2$228b3o$230bo$240bobo$236bobob3o$236b2o2bo
!
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: September 30th, 2020, 4:23 am
by yujh
Sorry for being annoying,
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I’d like to know it we can make a glider duplicator from this.
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x = 106, y = 87, rule = B2i3-kq4cj5cy6cn7c8_S2-i34cy7c8History
89.A$88.A.A$89.A12$40.2A$40.A$41.A$42.A$43.A$44.A.A$45.2A57.A$103.A.A
$104.A5$30.B$29.2B$28.3B$27.4B$26.5B31.B$25.6B30.2B$24.10B26.3B$23.
10B26.4B$22.10B27.3B$6.C14.10B28.2B$5.2BC12.10B29.B$5.3CB10.10B$6.4B
8.10B$7.4B6.10B$8.4B4.10B$B8.4B.11B$2B8.15B$3B8.15B40.A$4B8.15B38.A.A
$.4B8.14B39.A$2.4B6.14B.B.B$3.4B5.19B$4.4B4.19B$5.4B3.19B$6.4B2.20B$
7.26B20.A$8.15B2C7B20.A.A$9.14B2C6B22.A$10.21B7.B23.A$4.A7.19B6.2B22.
A.A$3.A.A6.7B2C5B.B.B6.3B23.A$4.A.A6.6B2C6B8.4B$5.A.A6.13B7.4B$6.A8.
11B7.4B$9.A6.9B7.4B$8.A.A6.8B6.4B$9.A.A6.8B4.4B$10.A8.9B.4B$20.12B$
21.10B$20.8B$14.2A5.6B$15.A6.6B$21.7B2.2A$20.7B2.A.A$20.6B2.A$21.4B2.
A30.2D$22.2B2.A31.2D$25.A35.A$17.A6.A35.A$16.A.A5.2A28.2D4.3A18.A$17.
A36.2D23.A.A$65.A14.2A$64.2A20.3A$64.A.A19.CD$86.DC3$82.2D$82.2D!
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 1st, 2020, 11:44 pm
by wwei23
Is B2-a/S12 really the oldest non-totalistic rule? The HighLife article linked to on the HighLife page describes a rule equivalent to B36n/S23.
Here is the article:
http://www.tip.net.au/~dbell/articles/HighLife.zip
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 3rd, 2020, 10:02 am
by Moosey
Is there a (preferably apgsearchable) relative of Tlife where, say, the Block (or another small SL) can reflect both Ts and Gs?
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 3rd, 2020, 12:20 pm
by Jackk
Combining tLife and mirrorLife gives a result you
probably didn't intend:
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x = 20, y = 21, rule = B3-kq4j/S2-i34q
18b2o$18b2o$9bo$9b2o$9bo14$3o$2bo$bo!
EDIT: Destructive G -> T
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3-kq4j/S2-i34q
2o$2o$5b2o$4b2o$6bo!
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 3rd, 2020, 1:09 pm
by Moosey
Jackk wrote: October 3rd, 2020, 12:20 pm
Combining tLife and mirrorLife gives a result you
probably didn't intend:
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x = 20, y = 21, rule = B3-kq4j/S2-i34q
18b2o$18b2o$9bo$9b2o$9bo14$3o$2bo$bo!
yeah, I meant a rule where Ts are (reusably) reflected into Ts and Gs into Gs.
Alternately, a rule with G->G, G->T, and T->G converters will work
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 3rd, 2020, 7:35 pm
by Ian07
Think you're right. From researching the LifeCA archives, it looks like JustFriends was first publicly described by Bell on 2000-06-19 (though he notes that it was originally found "a couple of years" before that) while "Ship" was first described by Paul Callahan on 1994-03-22.
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 10th, 2020, 11:18 pm
by wwei23
These spaceships touch but do not interact in any other way. Is this a true object, or a pseudo-object?
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x = 7, y = 10, rule = B2ek3aei4ctyz5-air6en8/S1c2-ik3acnqy4aeikw5cjnq6n7e
2o$bo$bo$bo$2o3$4b3o$3bo$4b3o!
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 11th, 2020, 11:29 pm
by pcallahan
Ian07 wrote: October 3rd, 2020, 7:35 pm
Think you're right. From researching the LifeCA archives, it looks like JustFriends was first publicly described by Bell on 2000-06-19 (though he notes that it was originally found "a couple of years" before that) while "Ship" was first described by Paul Callahan on 1994-03-22.
I assume that's Life except for birth in a ship-shaped neighborhood. It supports Highlife replicators as well as some CGOL patterns (p46 guns with a tweak?). I haven't thought about it since then. What's the modern way of expressing that rule? Can you post an example in LifeViewer?
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 11th, 2020, 11:47 pm
by wwei23
pcallahan wrote: October 11th, 2020, 11:29 pmCan you post an example in LifeViewer?
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x = 33, y = 21, rule = B36n/S23
30bo$30bobo$29bobo$31bo2$12b2o$11bobo15b2o$11bo17b2o$11b3o2$26bo$23b2o
3bo$11b3o9b2obob2o$2b2o7bo10bo6b2o$2b2o7bobo9b2obob2o$12b2o9b2o3bo$26b
o$2bo$2o$2b2o$bo!
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 18th, 2020, 8:52 pm
by Trump {Bot}
Has anybody found a synthesis for this Garden of Eden pattern?
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = 345/2/4
3B$BAB$3B!
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = 345/2/4
3C$CAC$3C!
I tried several ways but none worked.
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x = 10, y = 9, rule = 345/2/4
7.2B$BA5.2A$BA4$8.AB$.2A5.AB$.2B!
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 18th, 2020, 9:02 pm
by bubblegum
Trump {Bot} wrote: October 18th, 2020, 8:52 pm
Has anybody found a synthesis for this Garden of Eden pattern?
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = 345/2/4
3B$BAB$3B!
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = 345/2/4
3C$CAC$3C!
I tried several ways but none worked.
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x = 10, y = 9, rule = 345/2/4
7.2B$BA5.2A$BA4$8.AB$.2A5.AB$.2B!
No, by definition a Garden of Eden cannot exist if T>0 and as such cannot be synthesised.
Are you joking? Please tell me you are.
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 23rd, 2020, 7:59 am
by HelicopterCat3
I understand that there are fake gliders and fake LWSSes that travel differently in other rules than Life but have the same pattern as a glider or LWSS, but is there such thing as a fake Cordership? Like a ship made of switch engines, but it moves differently in a different rule than it does in Life?
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 23rd, 2020, 8:33 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
HelicopterCat3 wrote: October 23rd, 2020, 7:59 am
I understand that there are fake gliders and fake LWSSes that travel differently in other rules than Life but have the same pattern as a glider or LWSS, but is there such thing as a fake Cordership? Like a ship made of switch engines, but it moves differently in a different rule than it does in Life?
The switch engine works in B3/S236e (it's the only other rule where it works):
wwei23 wrote: September 23rd, 2020, 11:36 pm
goldenratio wrote: September 23rd, 2020, 11:31 pm
Is there even a way to stabilize the switch engine in that rule at all?
I was able to make these three corderships from the things in my cordership collection that actually worked at all. Two are mutually-canceling puffers, and one just happened to work in this rule as a spaceship as well.
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x = 288, y = 98, rule = B3/S236e
19bobo126bo92b3o$19bobo4b3obo115b2ob2o90bobo$18bo5bo4bob2o207bo3bo$18b
o2bo2bo4b2o115b2o92bo3bo$18bo2bo2bo121bo78b2o17bo$20bo4bo105b2o15bo3bo
72b2o11b2o4bo$8b2o16bo2bo101b2o11bo3bo88bo6bo$8b2o17b2o208bo5bo$242b2o
$150bo86bo3bo$147b3o76b2o10bobo$226bo$131bo85b2o6b3o$21bo101b2o6bobo
13b3o67b2o22b3o$2o18bobo100b2o6bobo92bo13bo3bo$2o17bo2bo18bo90bo16bo
75bo14bo2bo$20b2o17b2ob2o87b2o92b2o13b2o$39b2o90b2o7bo$24b2o15b3o95bob
o103bo$24b2o11bo3bo97bobo14bo87bobo2b2o7b2o$38bo3bo97bo6b2o5b2ob4o48b
2o32bo3b4o6b3o$37bob3o73b2o36b2ob3ob2o47b2o35bo7bobob2o$32bo5b2o75b2o
30bo6bob3obo67b2obo9b2obo10b2o$31bobo4bobo89b2o14b2o4b4o3bo69bo3bo8bob
o$31bobo5bo90b3o18b3ob2o72bo3bo9bo$32bo6b2o87bo3bo18b5o17bo57bobo$8b3o
28b2o86bo5bo20bo16b2ob2o$7bo3bo26b2o87bo5bo$9b2o27b3o87bob2obo37b2o28b
2o38bo24b3o$4b2ob2o45bobo50b2o22bo39bo29b2o37bobo23b3o$5b2o45bobobo50b
2o24bo39bo3bo62bobo24bo$51bob2o2bo71b4obo34bo3bo67bo23b2o$44bob2obobo
3b2o73b5o130bo$44b5ob2o3b2o75bo30b2o101bo$18bo25b2o3b2obo109bo2bo9bo$
17bobo31bobo59bo49b2o7b3o31b3o$17bobo91b2ob2o90bobo$16bo2bo79b2o104bo
3bo57b2o$16bobo80b2o10b2o59b3o30bo3bo57b2o$15bo32b2o61bo60b3o34bo57bo$
15b2o30bo2bo19bo42bo3bo52b2ob2o28b2o4bo57bo$16bo31b2o20bo38bo3bo41b2o
13bo31bo6bo56bobo$69bobo82bo2bo12b3o29bo5bo60bo$66bo2b2o84b2o50b2o55b
2o2bo4bo7b5o$65bo5bo23b2o18bo86bo3bo56bo3bo4bobo4b2o5b2o$65bo5bo18bo6b
o14b3o76b2o10bobo51b2o5b2o8bo4bo7bo$66bo4bo18bo3b3o94bo64bo2bo5bo5bo2b
o3bo7b2o$53b2o12bo22bo4bo94b3o64b2o12b3o3bo6b2o$53b2o13b3o41b3o91b3o
73bo$191bo13bo3bo67bo4bo$57b2o55bo53b2o20bo14bo2bo69bob2o$56bo2bo8b2ob
2o95b2o20b2o13b2o$56bobo8bo37bo$35b3o19bo13b2o31bobo103bo$34bo3bo29b3o
33bobo14bo87bobo2b2o7b2o37b3o$36b2o67bo6b2o5b2ob4o82bo3b4o6b3o$31b2ob
2o82b2ob3ob2o84bo7bobob2o37bo2bo$32b2o78bo6bob3obo67b2obo9b2obo10b2o$
95b2o14b2o4b4o3bo35b2o32bo3bo8bobo53b3o$95b3o18b3ob2o38b2o32bo3bo9bo
56bo$93bo3bo18b5o17bo57bobo76bobo$45bo46bo5bo20bo16b2ob2o130bobob3o4b
2o$44bobo45bo5bo172b2o2bo6b2o$44bobo18b2o26bob2obo37b2o68bo24b3o$43bo
2bo18b2o29bo39bo68bobo23b3o$43bobo52bo39bo3bo62bobo24bo$42bo51b4obo34b
o3bo13b2o52bo23b2o$42b2o51b5o52b2o76bo$43bo53bo30b2o101bo$127bo2bo9bo
133b2o$128b2o7b3o134b2o$57b2o$57b2o173b2o$137b3o92b2o$137b3o4b2o86bo$
135b2ob2o4b2o86bo$120b2o13bo95bobo$119bo2bo12b3o96bo31b2o$120b2o107b2o
2bo4bo7b5o15b2o$228bo3bo4bobo4b2o5b2o$222b2o5b2o8bo4bo7bo$221bo2bo5bo
5bo2bo3bo7b2o$136b2o84b2o12b3o3bo6b2o$136b2o109bo$242bo4bo$243bob2o11b
2o$258b2o3$227b3o2$227bo2bo2$228b3o$230bo$240bobo$236bobob3o$236b2o2bo
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Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 23rd, 2020, 8:42 am
by yujh
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 23rd, 2020, 8:33 am
HelicopterCat3 wrote: October 23rd, 2020, 7:59 am
I understand that there are fake gliders and fake LWSSes that travel differently in other rules than Life but have the same pattern as a glider or LWSS, but is there such thing as a fake Cordership? Like a ship made of switch engines, but it moves differently in a different rule than it does in Life?
The switch engine works in B3/S236e (it's the only other rule where it works):
wwei23 wrote: September 23rd, 2020, 11:36 pm
goldenratio wrote: September 23rd, 2020, 11:31 pm
Is there even a way to stabilize the switch engine in that rule at all?
I was able to make these three corderships from the things in my cordership collection that actually worked at all. Two are mutually-canceling puffers, and one just happened to work in this rule as a spaceship as well.
Code: Select all
x = 288, y = 98, rule = B3/S236e
19bobo126bo92b3o$19bobo4b3obo115b2ob2o90bobo$18bo5bo4bob2o207bo3bo$18b
o2bo2bo4b2o115b2o92bo3bo$18bo2bo2bo121bo78b2o17bo$20bo4bo105b2o15bo3bo
72b2o11b2o4bo$8b2o16bo2bo101b2o11bo3bo88bo6bo$8b2o17b2o208bo5bo$242b2o
$150bo86bo3bo$147b3o76b2o10bobo$226bo$131bo85b2o6b3o$21bo101b2o6bobo
13b3o67b2o22b3o$2o18bobo100b2o6bobo92bo13bo3bo$2o17bo2bo18bo90bo16bo
75bo14bo2bo$20b2o17b2ob2o87b2o92b2o13b2o$39b2o90b2o7bo$24b2o15b3o95bob
o103bo$24b2o11bo3bo97bobo14bo87bobo2b2o7b2o$38bo3bo97bo6b2o5b2ob4o48b
2o32bo3b4o6b3o$37bob3o73b2o36b2ob3ob2o47b2o35bo7bobob2o$32bo5b2o75b2o
30bo6bob3obo67b2obo9b2obo10b2o$31bobo4bobo89b2o14b2o4b4o3bo69bo3bo8bob
o$31bobo5bo90b3o18b3ob2o72bo3bo9bo$32bo6b2o87bo3bo18b5o17bo57bobo$8b3o
28b2o86bo5bo20bo16b2ob2o$7bo3bo26b2o87bo5bo$9b2o27b3o87bob2obo37b2o28b
2o38bo24b3o$4b2ob2o45bobo50b2o22bo39bo29b2o37bobo23b3o$5b2o45bobobo50b
2o24bo39bo3bo62bobo24bo$51bob2o2bo71b4obo34bo3bo67bo23b2o$44bob2obobo
3b2o73b5o130bo$44b5ob2o3b2o75bo30b2o101bo$18bo25b2o3b2obo109bo2bo9bo$
17bobo31bobo59bo49b2o7b3o31b3o$17bobo91b2ob2o90bobo$16bo2bo79b2o104bo
3bo57b2o$16bobo80b2o10b2o59b3o30bo3bo57b2o$15bo32b2o61bo60b3o34bo57bo$
15b2o30bo2bo19bo42bo3bo52b2ob2o28b2o4bo57bo$16bo31b2o20bo38bo3bo41b2o
13bo31bo6bo56bobo$69bobo82bo2bo12b3o29bo5bo60bo$66bo2b2o84b2o50b2o55b
2o2bo4bo7b5o$65bo5bo23b2o18bo86bo3bo56bo3bo4bobo4b2o5b2o$65bo5bo18bo6b
o14b3o76b2o10bobo51b2o5b2o8bo4bo7bo$66bo4bo18bo3b3o94bo64bo2bo5bo5bo2b
o3bo7b2o$53b2o12bo22bo4bo94b3o64b2o12b3o3bo6b2o$53b2o13b3o41b3o91b3o
73bo$191bo13bo3bo67bo4bo$57b2o55bo53b2o20bo14bo2bo69bob2o$56bo2bo8b2ob
2o95b2o20b2o13b2o$56bobo8bo37bo$35b3o19bo13b2o31bobo103bo$34bo3bo29b3o
33bobo14bo87bobo2b2o7b2o37b3o$36b2o67bo6b2o5b2ob4o82bo3b4o6b3o$31b2ob
2o82b2ob3ob2o84bo7bobob2o37bo2bo$32b2o78bo6bob3obo67b2obo9b2obo10b2o$
95b2o14b2o4b4o3bo35b2o32bo3bo8bobo53b3o$95b3o18b3ob2o38b2o32bo3bo9bo
56bo$93bo3bo18b5o17bo57bobo76bobo$45bo46bo5bo20bo16b2ob2o130bobob3o4b
2o$44bobo45bo5bo172b2o2bo6b2o$44bobo18b2o26bob2obo37b2o68bo24b3o$43bo
2bo18b2o29bo39bo68bobo23b3o$43bobo52bo39bo3bo62bobo24bo$42bo51b4obo34b
o3bo13b2o52bo23b2o$42b2o51b5o52b2o76bo$43bo53bo30b2o101bo$127bo2bo9bo
133b2o$128b2o7b3o134b2o$57b2o$57b2o173b2o$137b3o92b2o$137b3o4b2o86bo$
135b2ob2o4b2o86bo$120b2o13bo95bobo$119bo2bo12b3o96bo31b2o$120b2o107b2o
2bo4bo7b5o15b2o$228bo3bo4bobo4b2o5b2o$222b2o5b2o8bo4bo7bo$221bo2bo5bo
5bo2bo3bo7b2o$136b2o84b2o12b3o3bo6b2o$136b2o109bo$242bo4bo$243bob2o11b
2o$258b2o3$227b3o2$227bo2bo2$228b3o$230bo$240bobo$236bobob3o$236b2o2bo
!
It moves in the same way.
Re: Thread for basic non-CGOL questions
Posted: October 23rd, 2020, 9:13 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
yujh wrote: October 23rd, 2020, 8:42 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 23rd, 2020, 8:33 am
The switch engine works in B3/S236e (it's the only other rule where it works):
wwei23 wrote: September 23rd, 2020, 11:36 pm
I was able to make these three corderships from the things in my cordership collection that actually worked at all. Two are mutually-canceling puffers, and one just happened to work in this rule as a spaceship as well.
Code: Select all
x = 288, y = 98, rule = B3/S236e
19bobo126bo92b3o$19bobo4b3obo115b2ob2o90bobo$18bo5bo4bob2o207bo3bo$18b
o2bo2bo4b2o115b2o92bo3bo$18bo2bo2bo121bo78b2o17bo$20bo4bo105b2o15bo3bo
72b2o11b2o4bo$8b2o16bo2bo101b2o11bo3bo88bo6bo$8b2o17b2o208bo5bo$242b2o
$150bo86bo3bo$147b3o76b2o10bobo$226bo$131bo85b2o6b3o$21bo101b2o6bobo
13b3o67b2o22b3o$2o18bobo100b2o6bobo92bo13bo3bo$2o17bo2bo18bo90bo16bo
75bo14bo2bo$20b2o17b2ob2o87b2o92b2o13b2o$39b2o90b2o7bo$24b2o15b3o95bob
o103bo$24b2o11bo3bo97bobo14bo87bobo2b2o7b2o$38bo3bo97bo6b2o5b2ob4o48b
2o32bo3b4o6b3o$37bob3o73b2o36b2ob3ob2o47b2o35bo7bobob2o$32bo5b2o75b2o
30bo6bob3obo67b2obo9b2obo10b2o$31bobo4bobo89b2o14b2o4b4o3bo69bo3bo8bob
o$31bobo5bo90b3o18b3ob2o72bo3bo9bo$32bo6b2o87bo3bo18b5o17bo57bobo$8b3o
28b2o86bo5bo20bo16b2ob2o$7bo3bo26b2o87bo5bo$9b2o27b3o87bob2obo37b2o28b
2o38bo24b3o$4b2ob2o45bobo50b2o22bo39bo29b2o37bobo23b3o$5b2o45bobobo50b
2o24bo39bo3bo62bobo24bo$51bob2o2bo71b4obo34bo3bo67bo23b2o$44bob2obobo
3b2o73b5o130bo$44b5ob2o3b2o75bo30b2o101bo$18bo25b2o3b2obo109bo2bo9bo$
17bobo31bobo59bo49b2o7b3o31b3o$17bobo91b2ob2o90bobo$16bo2bo79b2o104bo
3bo57b2o$16bobo80b2o10b2o59b3o30bo3bo57b2o$15bo32b2o61bo60b3o34bo57bo$
15b2o30bo2bo19bo42bo3bo52b2ob2o28b2o4bo57bo$16bo31b2o20bo38bo3bo41b2o
13bo31bo6bo56bobo$69bobo82bo2bo12b3o29bo5bo60bo$66bo2b2o84b2o50b2o55b
2o2bo4bo7b5o$65bo5bo23b2o18bo86bo3bo56bo3bo4bobo4b2o5b2o$65bo5bo18bo6b
o14b3o76b2o10bobo51b2o5b2o8bo4bo7bo$66bo4bo18bo3b3o94bo64bo2bo5bo5bo2b
o3bo7b2o$53b2o12bo22bo4bo94b3o64b2o12b3o3bo6b2o$53b2o13b3o41b3o91b3o
73bo$191bo13bo3bo67bo4bo$57b2o55bo53b2o20bo14bo2bo69bob2o$56bo2bo8b2ob
2o95b2o20b2o13b2o$56bobo8bo37bo$35b3o19bo13b2o31bobo103bo$34bo3bo29b3o
33bobo14bo87bobo2b2o7b2o37b3o$36b2o67bo6b2o5b2ob4o82bo3b4o6b3o$31b2ob
2o82b2ob3ob2o84bo7bobob2o37bo2bo$32b2o78bo6bob3obo67b2obo9b2obo10b2o$
95b2o14b2o4b4o3bo35b2o32bo3bo8bobo53b3o$95b3o18b3ob2o38b2o32bo3bo9bo
56bo$93bo3bo18b5o17bo57bobo76bobo$45bo46bo5bo20bo16b2ob2o130bobob3o4b
2o$44bobo45bo5bo172b2o2bo6b2o$44bobo18b2o26bob2obo37b2o68bo24b3o$43bo
2bo18b2o29bo39bo68bobo23b3o$43bobo52bo39bo3bo62bobo24bo$42bo51b4obo34b
o3bo13b2o52bo23b2o$42b2o51b5o52b2o76bo$43bo53bo30b2o101bo$127bo2bo9bo
133b2o$128b2o7b3o134b2o$57b2o$57b2o173b2o$137b3o92b2o$137b3o4b2o86bo$
135b2ob2o4b2o86bo$120b2o13bo95bobo$119bo2bo12b3o96bo31b2o$120b2o107b2o
2bo4bo7b5o15b2o$228bo3bo4bobo4b2o5b2o$222b2o5b2o8bo4bo7bo$221bo2bo5bo
5bo2bo3bo7b2o$136b2o84b2o12b3o3bo6b2o$136b2o109bo$242bo4bo$243bob2o11b
2o$258b2o3$227b3o2$227bo2bo2$228b3o$230bo$240bobo$236bobob3o$236b2o2bo
!
It moves in the same way.
But some cells might be different.