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Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 13th, 2021, 8:54 am
by cgoler2
What's the apgcode of
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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2o$o$b3o$4bo$3b2o$3bo$bobo$b2o!
?
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 13th, 2021, 9:13 am
by May13
cgoler2 wrote: May 13th, 2021, 8:54 am
What's the apgcode of
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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2o$o$b3o$4bo$3b2o$3bo$bobo$b2o!
?
xs14_31ego8a6 (Integral siamese eater)
Edit: if you want to get apgcode of another still life,
it might be hepful. Go to Dave Greene's link if you have Python3.
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 13th, 2021, 9:21 am
by ENORMOUS_NAME
P323226343440 (*3*31*37)
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x = 87, y = 50, rule = B3/S23:T100,50
obo3bobo$bo5bo27bo11b4o24b2o$34b3o3b2ob2o2b2o2bo22bobo$19b2o12b2o2bo2b
2ob2o3bo2bo18b2o2bo$19b2o12bo3bo11bo20bobob2o$2b2o19bo9bob2o11bo23bo3b
o$bo15b7o9b2o12b3o19bo2b5o$b2o3b2o8bo12b2o11b2o3b2obo3b2o13b3o$b3o11b
ob2o3b2o5bo11bo2bo4b2o4bo16bo3bo$2b2o2b3o6bobo5bo2b2obo12b2o11bob2o12b
o5bo$3bobob2o3b2obo6bo3bob2ob2o19b2ob2obo13b6o$4b2ob2o3b2obo5bo9bo21b
o$2b3o10bo4bo10bobo17bobo7b2o11b2o$2bo12bobobo12b2o17b2o8b2o11b2o$2bo
11b2ob2o17bo11bo$32b5o11b5o$32bo19bo3bo8bo5bo8bo$34bo15bo4bobo6b2o5b2o
6bobo$10b2o21b2o15b2o2bo2bo5bo2bo3bo2bo5bo2bo$10bobo42b2o6bobo5bobo6b
2o$b3ob2o4b3o7b2o41b2o5b2o$b4o2bo4b3o6b2o$5b2o4b3o$10bobo37b2o33b2o$10b
2o38b2o33b2o$29b2obo2bob2o17b2o21b2o$6b2o14b2o4bo2bo4bo2bo4b2o9bo2bo19b
o2bo$5bo2bo13b2o5bobo4bobo5b2o8b2ob2o19b2ob2o$30bo6bo18bo23bo2$6bo5bo
bo$bo5bob2obobo$o3bo4bob2obo41bo23bo$o4bo4bob2o40b2ob2o19b2ob2o$bo9bo
bo16bo6bo17bo2bo19bo2bo$5b2o15b2o5bobo4bobo5b2o10b2o21b2o$5bobo14b2o4b
o2bo4bo2bo4b2o4b2o33b2o$6bobo6bo13b2obo2bob2o11b2o33b2o$4b4o6bobo$7b2o
5bobo3b2o$4b3o4b2obob2o3bo42b2o5b2o$12bobo6bob2o30b2o6bobo5bobo6b2o$10b
o2bobob3obo2bo29bo2bo5bo2bo3bo2bo5bo2bo$10b2obobo4bobo10b2o15b2o3bobo
6b2o5b2o6bobo$13bobo2b2o2b2o10bo15bo5bo8bo5bo8bo$13bobo3bobo10bo19bo$
14b2obobobo10b5o11b5o$2b2ob2o9bobobo15bo11bo12b2o11b2o$b2o3b2o8bobo11b
4o17b4o6b2o11b2o$2b2ob2o10b2o11bo2bo17bo2bo!
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 13th, 2021, 9:26 am
by cgoler2
Lua script, please!
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 13th, 2021, 11:13 am
by dvgrn
cgoler2 wrote: May 13th, 2021, 9:26 am
Lua script, please!
Lua can't pull up arbitrary Internet URLs as easily as Python can. I suppose you could write out a local HTML file, then open it in Golly, and then have the user click the link -- but nobody has taken the time yet to put together that particular variant of biggiemac's script.
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 13th, 2021, 1:15 pm
by dvgrn
ENORMOUS_NAME wrote: May 13th, 2021, 9:21 am
P323226343440 (*3*31*37)...
P15191638141680 (*47):
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x = 100, y = 50, rule = B3/S23:T100,50
28bobo31b2o$29bobo29b3o22b2o$b2o27b2o21b2ob2o2b2o2bo14b3o4bobo$o22bobo
9bo17b2ob2o2bo3bo11b3obo7bo2b2o$bob2o18b2obo4bo4bob2o8bo11bobo11bo2bo
2b2o5b2obobo$2bobo17bob2obo4bo3bobobo6b3o23bo3b5o3b2obobo$22bobob2obo
5bo4bo8b2o10b2ob2o7b3o4bo4b2o3bo2bo$2bobo17bobo5bo8b2ob2o2b2o2b3ob2o7b
o3b2o6bo9b2obo2b3o$bob2o6b2o3bo25bo7b2obo2bo11bo11bo5b2ob2o$o11bo2bobo
24bo7b3ob2o12bob2o7bobo3bo5bo$b2o7bo4bobo10bo2bo3b2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo14b
2ob2obo8bo4b6o$10b5obo12b2o3bobobo5bo4bo16bo$14bo18bo4bo5bo19bobo7b2o
11b2o$3b2o5b2o3bo16bo5bob2o3b3o4b2o10b2o8b2o11b2o$4bo5b2o4bo14bo3b2obo
b2o7bo2bo2bo5bo$4bobo8b2o8bo4bo3bobobo6b5o4b2o5b5o$5b2o16b3o4b2o2b2o2b
o6bo4b4o2b2o7bo3bo23bo$22bo14bo9bo2bo3bo3bo4bo4bobo3b3o9b3o3bobo$22b2o
6b7o9b2o4b2ob3o5b2o2bo2bo6bo7bo6bo2bo$30bo22bo4b3o7b2o5bo2bo5bo2bo5b2o
$33b2o7b2o7bobo2b2o2bo$2b2o29b2o7b2o5b3obo4b2o16b4o3b4o$2b2o8bo35bo4b
5o18b3o5b3o$12b2o11b2o22b4o4bo5b2o3bo25bo3b2o$11bob2o10bo4bo15bo6b4o6b
2o3bobo21bobo3b2o$10b2o2b2o7bobo3bo17bo3b2o15bo3b2o15b2o3bo$10b2o2b3o
6b2o7bo2b3ob3o2bo6bo2bo5bo8bo2b2o15b2o2bo$4b2o4bo3b3o13bob2o9b2obo6b2o
3b3o9bob2o15b2obo$3bobo8b4o12bo6bobo6bo10bo14bo17bo$3bo11b2obo12b2o3bo
3bo3b2o11b2o$2b2o27b5o5b5o$17bo7b2o$25b2o45bo17bo$31b5o5b5o24bob2o15b
2obo$16b3o12b2o3bo3bo3b2o8b3o12bo2b2o15b2o2bo$5b2o9b3o11bo6bobo6bo21bo
3b2o15b2o3bo$6bo10bo12bob2o9b2obo7bobo6b2o3bobo21bobo3b2o$3b3o16b2o8bo
2b3ob3o2bo8b5o5b2o3bo25bo3b2o$3bo8b2o8bobo4bo17bo4b2o3b2o17b3o5b3o$12b
o4b2o5bo5bo15bo5b2o3b2o17b4o3b4o$13bo3b2o5b2o$14bo53b2o5bo2bo5bo2bo5b
2o$12bob5o14b2o7b2o11bo11bo2bo6bo7bo6bo2bo$11bobo4bo14b2o7b2o2b2o5b2o
8b2o3bobo3b3o9b3o3bobo$11bobo2bo30bo15bo5bo23bo$12bo3b2o27bo6bo12bo$
45b5o11b5o$30b3o16bo3bo2bo4bo12b2o11b2o$28b2o13b4o8b2o7b4o6b2o11b2o$
29b4o10bo2bo17bo2bo!
I'm not really any good at welding, so it's quite possible there's a way to free up a fair amount more room in this thing. Not sure it will be enough room to add anything else useful, though -- the prime periods that we haven't hit tend to need a lot of space.
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 13th, 2021, 1:18 pm
by Aleph
Replace the queen bee shuttle with a fumarole. The Rob's P16+Thumb 1 should cover the P6 part.
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 13th, 2021, 4:49 pm
by MathAndCode
What's the smallest still life where the smallest (including tied for smallest) (by population) predecessor contains at least one glider? Are there any still lives for which the smallest (again including tied for smallest) predecessor consists of only gliders?
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 14th, 2021, 12:23 am
by JP21
MathAndCode wrote: May 13th, 2021, 4:49 pm
What's the smallest still life where the smallest (including tied for smallest) (by population) predecessor contains at least one glider? Are there any still lives for which the smallest (again including tied for smallest) predecessor consists of only gliders?
Now that's quite confusing....
Code: Select all
x = 20, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4bo8b3o$3o12bo$2bo11bo2b2o$bo15bobo$17bo!
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 14th, 2021, 12:30 am
by mniemiec
MathAndCode wrote: May 13th, 2021, 4:49 pmWhat's the smallest still life where the smallest (including tied for smallest) (by population) predecessor contains at least one glider? Are there any still lives for which the smallest (again including tied for smallest) predecessor consists of only gliders?
JP21 wrote: May 14th, 2021, 12:23 amNow that's quite confusing....
Neither of those qualify, because a block's minimum predecessor is 3 bits, while these are 6 and 10 respectively - they are not minimal.
If pseudo-still-lifes were allowed, things like boat-bit-on-snake/carrier/eater would likely qualify, because they can be made by adding a glider to the underlying still-life, and the glider ties the boat for population (and no intermediate steps go below 5).
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 14th, 2021, 10:42 am
by ihatecorderships
Whats the difference between a semi-snark and a semi-cenark?
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 14th, 2021, 11:02 am
by May13
ihatecorderships wrote: May 14th, 2021, 10:42 am
Whats the difference between a semi-snark and a semi-cenark?
Semi-
cenark is a variant of semi-Snark that produces a
century output for every two input gliders.
More info:
Semi-cenark
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 14th, 2021, 10:22 pm
by ColorfulGabrielsp138
Are these gliders on transparent lanes? If not, How should I make them on transparent lanes?
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x = 18, y = 31, rule = WWLife
A$3.A$A2.A$2.3A$2.3A$.A2.A$.A.A$.3A2$10.C17$17.D$16.D3$4.C!
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 15th, 2021, 10:04 am
by dvgrn
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote: May 14th, 2021, 10:22 pm
Are these gliders on transparent lanes? If not, How should I make them on transparent lanes?
Code: Select all
x = 18, y = 31, rule = WWLife
A$3.A$A2.A$2.3A$2.3A$.A2.A$.A.A$.3A2$10.C17$17.D$16.D3$4.C!
It's pretty easy to answer this kind of question, just by running the pattern in LifeViewer until the gliders come out, then editing the gliders to turn them 180 degrees on the same lane. Run the reversed gliders through the pattern. If they don't hit anything, the lanes are transparent.
In this case, what you have is the WWLife equivalent of a standard
NW31 Herschel-to-2-glider converter, which does indeed include two transparent-lane outputs (plus one more optional output that's not transparent).
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x = 82, y = 78, rule = LifeSuper
5.B$5.2B$5.3B$5.4B$6.4B$7.4B$8.4B$9.4B$10.4B$11.4B$12.4B$13.4B2.O$14.
4B4.O$15.4BO2.O$16.4B.3O$17.4B3O31.B$18.2BOB.O9.O20.2B$19.BOBO8.3O19.
3B$20.3OB6.O21.4B$21.4B5.2O19.4B$22.4B24.4B$23.4B22.4B$24.4B20.4B$25.
4B18.4B$26.4B16.4B$27.4B14.4B$28.4B12.4B$29.4B10.4B$30.4B8.4B$10.2O
19.4B6.4B$10.2O20.4B4.4B$33.4B2.4B$34.8B$35.6B$36.4B$35.6B$34.8B$33.
4B2.4B$32.4B4.4B$25.2O4.4B6.4B$25.2O3.4B8.4B$29.4B10.4B$28.4B12.4B$
27.4B14.4B$26.4B16.4B$25.4B18.4B$24.4B20.4B$23.4B22.4B$22.4B24.4B$21.
4B26.4B$20.4B28.4B$19.4B30.3B$18.4B32.2B$17.4B34.B$16.4B16$2A$.2A$A3$
79.2A$79.A.A$79.A!
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 16th, 2021, 6:06 am
by ColorfulGabrielsp138
dvgrn wrote: May 15th, 2021, 10:04 am
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote: May 14th, 2021, 10:22 pm
Are these gliders on transparent lanes? If not, How should I make them on transparent lanes?
Code: Select all
x = 18, y = 31, rule = WWLife
A$3.A$A2.A$2.3A$2.3A$.A2.A$.A.A$.3A2$10.C17$17.D$16.D3$4.C!
It's pretty easy to answer this kind of question, just by running the pattern in LifeViewer until the gliders come out, then editing the gliders to turn them 180 degrees on the same lane. Run the reversed gliders through the pattern. If they don't hit anything, the lanes are transparent.
In this case, what you have is the WWLife equivalent of a standard
NW31 Herschel-to-2-glider converter, which does indeed include two transparent-lane outputs (plus one more optional output that's not transparent).
Code: Select all
x = 82, y = 78, rule = LifeSuper
5.B$5.2B$5.3B$5.4B$6.4B$7.4B$8.4B$9.4B$10.4B$11.4B$12.4B$13.4B2.O$14.
4B4.O$15.4BO2.O$16.4B.3O$17.4B3O31.B$18.2BOB.O9.O20.2B$19.BOBO8.3O19.
3B$20.3OB6.O21.4B$21.4B5.2O19.4B$22.4B24.4B$23.4B22.4B$24.4B20.4B$25.
4B18.4B$26.4B16.4B$27.4B14.4B$28.4B12.4B$29.4B10.4B$30.4B8.4B$10.2O
19.4B6.4B$10.2O20.4B4.4B$33.4B2.4B$34.8B$35.6B$36.4B$35.6B$34.8B$33.
4B2.4B$32.4B4.4B$25.2O4.4B6.4B$25.2O3.4B8.4B$29.4B10.4B$28.4B12.4B$
27.4B14.4B$26.4B16.4B$25.4B18.4B$24.4B20.4B$23.4B22.4B$22.4B24.4B$21.
4B26.4B$20.4B28.4B$19.4B30.3B$18.4B32.2B$17.4B34.B$16.4B16$2A$.2A$A3$
79.2A$79.A.A$79.A!
So this means that the first glider is on the transparent lane but the second is not?
I tried your way, and found that the first glider passed safely (if the boat was not present) and the second glider crashed and formed a boat.
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 16th, 2021, 8:41 am
by dvgrn
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote: May 16th, 2021, 6:06 am
So this means that the first glider is on the transparent lane but the second is not?
I tried your way, and found that the first glider passed safely (if the boat was not present) and the second glider crashed and formed a boat.
Yes, in your WWLife version of the pattern, the
FNG is on a transparent lane, but your duoplet catalyst gets in the way of the
SNG transparent lane.
Obviously there's no problem porting a standard NW31 to WWLife, though -- that duoplet catalyst isn't really needed:
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x = 82, y = 67, rule = WWLife
19.A$22.A$19.A2.A$21.3A$21.3A$20.A2.A9.A$20.A.A8.3A$20.3A7.A$30.2A10$
10.2A$10.2A9$25.2A$25.2A30$2A$.2A$A3$79.2A$79.A.A$79.A!
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 17th, 2021, 4:00 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
What is this 19-bit still life? (Is this a strict or pseudo still life?)
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x = 7, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
5bo$b2obobo$b2ob2o2$ob3obo$2obob2o!
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 17th, 2021, 5:15 am
by Sokwe
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: May 17th, 2021, 4:00 am
What is this 19-bit still life? (Is this a strict or pseudo still life?)
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x = 7, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
5bo$b2obobo$b2ob2o2$ob3obo$2obob2o!
It's a pseudo still life, because it can be partitioned (by islands) into two stable patterns:
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x = 36, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
5bo28bo$b2obobo12b2o12bobo$b2ob2o13b2o12b2o2$ob3obo11bob3obo$2obob2o
11b2obob2o!
It doesn't matter that it can be done in two different ways.
Also, I moved your post to the thread for basic questions.
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 17th, 2021, 6:20 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
Then which way is it?
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 17th, 2021, 6:54 am
by Sokwe
There is no canonical way to split it. The only requirement for a pseudo still life is that it
can be split.
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 18th, 2021, 2:43 pm
by ihatecorderships
What is this SL called? Is it snake weld eater 1?
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x = 4, y = 7, rule = B3/S23Super
2M$M$.M$2M$M$.3M$3.M!
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 18th, 2021, 3:23 pm
by cgoler2
ihatecorderships wrote: May 18th, 2021, 2:43 pm
What is this SL called? Is it snake weld eater 1?
It is called eater head siamese snake.
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 18th, 2021, 4:25 pm
by ihatecorderships
Very silly question: Where is the rules I want searched in Catagolue thread? Thats not the exact name but you get the idea.
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 18th, 2021, 7:49 pm
by silversmith
ihatecorderships wrote: May 18th, 2021, 4:25 pm
Very silly question: Where is the rules I want searched in Catagolue thread? Thats not the exact name but you get the idea.
Perhaps you are looking for the
apgsearch - haul requests thread?
Re: Thread for basic questions
Posted: May 18th, 2021, 7:53 pm
by ihatecorderships
silversmith wrote: May 18th, 2021, 7:49 pm
ihatecorderships wrote: May 18th, 2021, 4:25 pm
Very silly question: Where is the rules I want searched in Catagolue thread? Thats not the exact name but you get the idea.
Perhaps you are looking for the
apgsearch - haul requests thread?
Ah yes, thanks.