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Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 8th, 2026, 3:39 pm
by TheWayOfTheCon
NNlk05 wrote: September 8th, 2026, 3:26 pm BIG NEWS!
apgsearch found a 180-drg reflector for the Q (or the Ida)!
Nice, but LLS can also be used to find reflectors.

In fact, are there any small spaceships in this rule without known reflectors? If they're as simple as the Q reflector (which is just a Bi-block), then LLS might be able to find them in good time. I'm taking requests.

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 8th, 2026, 3:42 pm
by NNlk05
TheWayOfTheCon wrote: September 8th, 2026, 3:39 pm Nice, but LLS can also be used to find reflectors.

In fact, are there any small spaceships in this rule without known reflectors? If they're as simple as the Q reflector (which is just a Bi-block), then LLS might be able to find them in good time. I'm taking requests.
... there's no other small spaceships other than G and Q. There's this one c/2, though:

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x = 3, y = 6, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
o$3o$2bo$2bo$3o$o!
It seems like it is too rare to have a reasonable reflector, so a 90-drg Q reflector would be nice.

(Also, this thread ~~is on fire~~ has the fire icon now! :mrgreen: )
EDIT: Strange gun based on an over-utility reaction and a block doing two jobs:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
obbbbooooboobobb$
bboobooooboobboo$
booobobboobobooo$
oobobbboobooooob$
oobooboobbobbbbb$
oobbbooooboobbob$
bobbobbbbbobboob$
boobbobooobbobbo$
bbooobbbbobboboo$
ooboobbobbbbbbbb$
bbbbooboboobbboo$
obbbbobobobooboo$
bbbbbboooobboooo$
oobboboooboboobb$
oboboobooobooobb$
ooobbbboobbooooo!
The gun:

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x = 28, y = 21, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
7b2o$7b2o2$15b2o$b2o12b2o$2o$2bo3$26b2o$26b2o$2b2o$2b2o4bobo$9b2o$9bo
$14b2o6b2o$13b3o6b2o$16b2o$16b2o$12b2o2bo$12b2o!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 9th, 2026, 6:32 am
by J5L
p44 Q gun

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x = 40, y = 24, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
12b2o$12b2o12b2o$26b2o2$6b2o$6b2o24b2o$32b2o2$2o14b2o$2o5bo8b2o4b2o14b
2o$6bo15b2o8bo5b2o$6b3o3b3o18bo$14bo10b3o3b3o$3b2o8bo11bo$3b2o21bo8b2o
$35b2o2$13b2o$13b2o10b2o$25b2o2$7b2o$7b2o22b2o$31b2o!
I just need a glider inserter to make elbow operations.

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 9th, 2026, 10:19 am
by WhiteHawk
NNlk05 wrote: September 8th, 2026, 3:42 pm The gun:
Block hassler

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x = 46, y = 62, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
31b2o$31b2o2$40b2o$25b2o13b2o$25b2o2$21b2o10b2o$21b2o10b2o4$28b3o$30b
o13b2o$29bo2b2o10b2o$20b2o9bobo$20b2o11bo2$22bo$22bobo15b2o$22b2o2bo13b
2o$25bo$25b3o$30b2o$22bo7b2o8b2o$21bo18b2o$21b3o4$21b2o$21b2o5$4b2o$4b
2o8b2o$14b2o$11b2o$11bobo$4b2o5b3o$4b2o3$18b3o3b2o$18bo5b2o$2o17bo$2o
2$26bo$27bo$26bo$11b2o10bobo$11b2o10b2o2$19b2o$4b2o13b2o$4b2o2$13b2o$
13b2o!
EDIT: way to actually eat the output

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x = 35, y = 32, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
20b2o$20b2o2$29b2o$14b2o13b2o$14b2o2$10b2o10b2o$10b2o10b2o4$17b3o$19b
o13b2o$18bo2b2o10b2o$9b2o9bobo$9b2o11bo2$11bo$11bobo15b2o$11b2o2bo13b
2o$14bo$14b3o$19b2o$11bo7b2o8b2o$10bo18b2o$10b3o4$2o4b2o$2o4b2o!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 9th, 2026, 10:53 am
by NNlk05
p38 X hassler

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
6b2o15b2o$6b2o15b2o3$13b2ob2o$13b2ob2o$2o8b2o7b2o8b2o$2o8bobo5bobo8b2o
$10b3o5b3o2$6b3o4b2ob2o4b3o$6bobo4b2ob2o4bobo$7b2o13b2o$4b2o4b2o7b2o4b
2o$4b2o4b2o7b2o4b2o2$4b2o4b2o7b2o4b2o$4b2o4b2o7b2o4b2o$7b2o13b2o$6bob
o4b2ob2o4bobo$6b3o4b2ob2o4b3o2$10b3o5b3o$2o8bobo5bobo8b2o$2o8b2o7b2o8b
2o$13b2ob2o$13b2ob2o3$6b2o15b2o$6b2o15b2o!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 9th, 2026, 11:05 am
by WhiteHawk
NNlk05 wrote: September 9th, 2026, 10:53 am p38 X hassler

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
6b2o15b2o$6b2o15b2o3$13b2ob2o$13b2ob2o$2o8b2o7b2o8b2o$2o8bobo5bobo8b2o
$10b3o5b3o2$6b3o4b2ob2o4b3o$6bobo4b2ob2o4bobo$7b2o13b2o$4b2o4b2o7b2o4b
2o$4b2o4b2o7b2o4b2o2$4b2o4b2o7b2o4b2o$4b2o4b2o7b2o4b2o$7b2o13b2o$6bob
o4b2ob2o4bobo$6b3o4b2ob2o4b3o2$10b3o5b3o$2o8bobo5bobo8b2o$2o8b2o7b2o8b
2o$13b2ob2o$13b2ob2o3$6b2o15b2o$6b2o15b2o!
You mentioned this already
NNlk05 wrote: September 5th, 2026, 10:29 pm p38 x hassler

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 9th, 2026, 3:47 pm
by EvinZL
p38 reduction (octamer -> dimer):

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
o$3o2bo$b5o$bo$4b2o4b2o$4b2o4b2o2$13b2o$4b2o7b2o$3b2o2$2o$2o$10bo2b2o
b2o$9b2o2b2obo$9bo6bo$16b2o$6b2o7b3o$6b2o9b2o!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 9th, 2026, 6:58 pm
by NNlk05
Various D4_+4 objects
p31 shuttle:

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x = 14, y = 22, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
3b2o4b2o$3b2o4b2o7$4b2o2b2o$3b2o4b2o$2o4b2o4b2o$2o4b2o4b2o$3b2o4b2o$4b
2o2b2o7$3b2o4b2o$3b2o4b2o!
p15 sparker

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x = 8, y = 14, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
2b4o$b6o$o6bo$b6o$3b2o5$3b2o$b6o$o6bo$b6o$2b4o!
p11 delayed domino

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
2o10b2o$2o10b2o$3b2o4b2o$2bo2bo2bo2bo$2bobo4bobo$3bo2b2o2bo$5bo2bo$5b
o2bo$3bo2b2o2bo$2bobo4bobo$2bo2bo2bo2bo$3b2o4b2o$2o10b2o$2o10b2o!
c/3 ship:

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x = 10, y = 6, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
bo6bo$3o4b3o2$2b6o$bo2b2o2bo$4b2o!
Bunch of p60 failedrep shuttles, incl. 2 gunnifictions

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xx = 341, y = 117, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
296b2o$165b2o4b2o122b2o$166b2o2b2o125bo$165bo6bo5$5bo38bo$4bobo36bobo
$5bo12b3o8b3o12bo$18bobo8bobo3$18bobo8bobo$5bo12b3o8b3o12bo266b2o$4bo
bo36bobo104b2o34b2o122b2o$5bo38bo106b2o32b2o125bo$150bo36bo11$330b2o$
131b2o72b2o119b2o2b2o$b2o44b2o82b2o2b2o64b2o2b2o118b2o$b2o6b2o7b3o8b3o
7b2o6b2o87b2o62b2o125bo5b2o$4b3o3bo7bobo8bobo7bo3b3o82b2o5bo66bo5b2o97b
2o10b3o6bobo2bo$3bobobobo30bobobobo82bo2bobo6b3o10b2o26b2o10b3o6bobo2b
o98bo11bobo7b2o4b2ob2o$3bobobobo30bobobobo76b2ob2o4b2o7bobo11bo26bo11b
obo7b2o4b2ob2o94b2o18bo4b2o2bobo$4b3o3bo7bobo8bobo7bo3b3o76bobo2b2o4b
o18b2o30b2o18bo4b2o2bobo93b2o18bo4b2o2bobo$b2o6b2o7b3o8b3o7b2o6b2o73b
obo2b2o4bo18b2o30b2o18bo4b2o2bobo91bo11bobo7b2o4b2ob2o$b2o44b2o74b2ob
2o4b2o7bobo11bo26bo11bobo7b2o4b2ob2o92b2o10b3o6bobo2bo$129bo2bobo6b3o
10b2o26b2o10b3o6bobo2bo118bo5b2o$128b2o5bo66bo5b2o115b2o$136b2o62b2o124b
2o2b2o$131b2o2b2o64b2o2b2o123b2o$131b2o72b2o3$8b2o30b2o$9b2o28b2o$7bo
bo30bobo$8bo32bo2$8b3o7b3o8b3o7b3o$8bobo7bobo8bobo7bobo2$312bo$8bobo7b
obo8bobo7bobo108bo36bo122b2o$8b3o7b3o8b3o7b3o109b2o32b2o124b2o$150b2o
34b2o$8bo32bo$7bobo30bobo$9b2o28b2o$8b2o30b2o8$297bo$165bo6bo122b2o$3b
o40bo121b2o2b2o124b2o$3bobo36bobo120b2o4b2o$5bo36bo$3b3o36b3o5$6bo8b3o
12b3o8bo$3ob2o9bobo12bobo9b2ob3o$2o6bo30bo6b2o$2o5b2o30b2o5b2o$3o2b4o
6bobo12bobo6b4o2b3o$5b3o7b3o12b3o7b3o9$155b3o12b3o$157bo12bo$156bo14b
o125b2o$16b3o12b3o263b2o$3b2o11bobo12bobo11b2ob2o$3bo42bobobo94bo36bo
114bo22bo$2obo42bobobo93bobo34bobo113b2o20b2o$2ob2o11bobo12bobo11b2ob
2o95bo36bo107bo5bobo20bobo5bo$16b3o12b3o255bobo34bobo$290bo36bo$150b3o
22b3o$149bob2o22b2obo119b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o$149bob2o22b2obo119bo2bo2bo8bo
2bo2bo$150b3o22b3o120bob3obo8bob3obo$298bob3obo8bob3obo$298bo2bo2bo8b
o2bo2bo$145bo36bo115b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o$144bobo34bobo$145bo36bo107bo36bo$
289bobo34bobo$290bo5bobo20bobo5bo$156bo14bo125b2o20b2o$157bo12bo126bo
22bo$155b3o12b3o!
FYI: The failedrep moves at 5c/30 (c/6)

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x = 39, y = 22, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ceHistory
15.3B3.3B$12.B.5B.5B.B$11.8B.8B$9.10B.10B$8.11B.11B$6.27B$5.29B$5.29B
$3.5B3D2B3D2B3E2B3D2B3D5B$.7BDBD2BDBD2BEBE2BDBD2BDBD7B$39B$39B$.7BDBD
2BDBD2BEBE2BDBD2BDBD7B$3.5B3D2B3D2B3E2B3D2B3D5B$5.29B$5.29B$6.27B$8.11B
.11B$9.10B.10B$11.8B.8B$12.B.5B.5B.B$15.3B3.3B!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 9th, 2026, 7:10 pm
by WhiteHawk
NNlk05 wrote: September 9th, 2026, 6:58 pm Bunch of p60 failedrep shuttles, incl. 2 gunnifictions
A little misspelling

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x = 341, y = 117, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
296b2o$165b2o4b2o122b2o$166b2o2b2o125bo$165bo6bo5$5bo38bo$4bobo36bobo
$5bo12b3o8b3o12bo$18bobo8bobo3$18bobo8bobo$5bo12b3o8b3o12bo266b2o$4bo
bo36bobo104b2o34b2o122b2o$5bo38bo106b2o32b2o125bo$150bo36bo11$330b2o$
131b2o72b2o119b2o2b2o$b2o44b2o82b2o2b2o64b2o2b2o118b2o$b2o6b2o7b3o8b3o
7b2o6b2o87b2o62b2o125bo5b2o$4b3o3bo7bobo8bobo7bo3b3o82b2o5bo66bo5b2o97b
2o10b3o6bobo2bo$3bobobobo30bobobobo82bo2bobo6b3o10b2o26b2o10b3o6bobo2b
o98bo11bobo7b2o4b2ob2o$3bobobobo30bobobobo76b2ob2o4b2o7bobo11bo26bo11b
obo7b2o4b2ob2o94b2o18bo4b2o2bobo$4b3o3bo7bobo8bobo7bo3b3o76bobo2b2o4b
o18b2o30b2o18bo4b2o2bobo93b2o18bo4b2o2bobo$b2o6b2o7b3o8b3o7b2o6b2o73b
obo2b2o4bo18b2o30b2o18bo4b2o2bobo91bo11bobo7b2o4b2ob2o$b2o44b2o74b2ob
2o4b2o7bobo11bo26bo11bobo7b2o4b2ob2o92b2o10b3o6bobo2bo$129bo2bobo6b3o
10b2o26b2o10b3o6bobo2bo118bo5b2o$128b2o5bo66bo5b2o115b2o$136b2o62b2o124b
2o2b2o$131b2o2b2o64b2o2b2o123b2o$131b2o72b2o3$8b2o30b2o$9b2o28b2o$7bo
bo30bobo$8bo32bo2$8b3o7b3o8b3o7b3o$8bobo7bobo8bobo7bobo2$312bo$8bobo7b
obo8bobo7bobo108bo36bo122b2o$8b3o7b3o8b3o7b3o109b2o32b2o124b2o$150b2o
34b2o$8bo32bo$7bobo30bobo$9b2o28b2o$8b2o30b2o8$297bo$165bo6bo122b2o$3b
o40bo121b2o2b2o124b2o$3bobo36bobo120b2o4b2o$5bo36bo$3b3o36b3o5$6bo8b3o
12b3o8bo$3ob2o9bobo12bobo9b2ob3o$2o6bo30bo6b2o$2o5b2o30b2o5b2o$3o2b4o
6bobo12bobo6b4o2b3o$5b3o7b3o12b3o7b3o9$155b3o12b3o$157bo12bo$156bo14b
o125b2o$16b3o12b3o263b2o$3b2o11bobo12bobo11b2ob2o$3bo42bobobo94bo36bo
114bo22bo$2obo42bobobo93bobo34bobo113b2o20b2o$2ob2o11bobo12bobo11b2ob
2o95bo36bo107bo5bobo20bobo5bo$16b3o12b3o255bobo34bobo$290bo36bo$150b3o
22b3o$149bob2o22b2obo119b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o$149bob2o22b2obo119bo2bo2bo8bo
2bo2bo$150b3o22b3o120bob3obo8bob3obo$298bob3obo8bob3obo$298bo2bo2bo8b
o2bo2bo$145bo36bo115b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o$144bobo34bobo$145bo36bo107bo36bo$
289bobo34bobo$290bo5bobo20bobo5bo$156bo14bo125b2o20b2o$157bo12bo126bo
22bo$155b3o12b3o!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 10th, 2026, 2:49 am
by J5L
NNlk05 wrote: September 9th, 2026, 6:58 pm [snip]
p15 sparker

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x = 14, y = 22, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
3b2o4b2o$3b2o4b2o7$4b2o2b2o$3b2o4b2o$2o4b2o4b2o$2o4b2o4b2o$3b2o4b2o$4b
2o2b2o7$3b2o4b2o$3b2o4b2o!
[snip]
Wrong pattern again. Please fix it.

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 10th, 2026, 10:28 am
by NNlk05
J5L wrote: September 10th, 2026, 2:49 am Wrong pattern again. Please fix it.
Done. In other news, LuvellVoom found this p32 failedrep shuttle in D2_+2

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x = 13, y = 15, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
2bo7bo$bobo5bobo$2bo7bo6$4b2ob2o$4bo3bo$4b2ob2o2$bo9bo$obo7bobo$bo9bo
!


Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 10th, 2026, 11:24 pm
by FWKnightship
P19:

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x = 17, y = 16, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
11b2o$11b2o2bo$14bobo$15bo2$8b3o$8b3o$5b2o$5b2o$5b2o$2o$2o2$2bo$bobo$
2bo!
The stdin script I use to search D2_x_skewgutter_stdin:

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from random import *

def RLEcompress(output):
    RLE = []
    
    for c in output:
        if not RLE or c != RLE[-1][0]:
            RLE.append([c, 1])
        else:
            RLE[-1][1] += 1
    
    RLE2 = []
    
    for a, b in RLE:
        if b > 1:
            RLE2.append(str(b))
        RLE2.append(a)
    
    return "".join(RLE2) + "!"


def rand_soup():
    ls = [["b"] * 18 + ["$"] for _ in range(17)]

    for i in range(16):
        for j in range(i, 16):
            c = choice("bo")
            ls[i][j+2] = c
            ls[j+1][i] = c

    return RLEcompress(sum(ls, start=[]))

while 1:
    print("x = 0, y = 0, rule = B3/S23")
    print(rand_soup())

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 12th, 2026, 12:21 am
by NNlk05
Two gliders split each other:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
$8bo$7bo$7b3o2$3b2o$2bobo$4bo!
(We need to emulate 2G and G+Block)

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 12th, 2026, 1:28 am
by ThePlayzr
NNlk05 wrote: September 12th, 2026, 12:21 am Two gliders split each other:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
$8bo$7bo$7b3o2$3b2o$2bobo$4bo!
(We need to emulate 2G and G+Block)
Gun that repeatedly makes this reaction:

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x = 34, y = 25, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
16b2o4b2o$16b2o4b2o2$11b2o$11b2o19b2o$32b2o4$18bo$18bobo$18b2o2$13b3o
$15bo$14bo4$2o$2o19b2o$21b2o2$9b2o$9b2o!
Does this rule have a slide gun yet?
EDIT: no, it doesn't. Let me find a simple push reaction.
EDIT 2: no simple push reaction, but I think I could make O(logN) growth:

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x = 19, y = 12, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
16b3o$15bob2o$15bo7$3o3b3o$2bo5bo$bo5bo!
EDIT 3: O(logN) growth:

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x = 41, y = 45, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
18b2o$18b2o2$13b2o$13b2o$33b3o$32bob2o$32bo6$18b3o3b3o$2o18bo5bo$2o17b
o5bo4$3b2o$3b2o34b2o$39b2o$27b2o$3b2o22b2o$3b2o$36b2o$36b2o$16b2o$2o14b
2o$2o4$8b2o$8b2o6$15b2o$15b2o2$20b2o$20b2o!
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Each cycle takes six times longer than the previous.

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 12th, 2026, 2:59 am
by yyh_baboon
Not very good pull:

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 x = 20, y = 15, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
18b2o$18b2o8$11b3o$13bo$12bo$3o$2bo$bo!
Edit: failed 5c/30 rep and ???

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 x = 37, y = 4, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
4o20b4o5b4o$4o20b4o5b4o$o2bo20bo2bo5bo2bo$b2o22b2o7b2o!
Maybe we should try to engineer a 5c/30 spaceship:

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 x = 9, y = 18, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
5b4o$5b4o$5bo2bo$6b2o11$2bo$bobo$ob2o$bo!

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 x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
4b2o2b2o$3bo6bo$4b2o2b2o9$2bo$bobo$ob2o$bo!

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 x = 11, y = 17, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
7b4o$7b4o$7bo2bo$8b2o11$b2o$obo$2bo!

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 x = 18, y = 3, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
obo8b2o2b2o$b2o7bo6bo$bo9b2o2b2o!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 12th, 2026, 3:27 am
by J5L
Unexpected:

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x = 55, y = 49, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
52b3o$51bob2o$51bo7$38b3o$40bo$39bo10$26b3o$28bo$27bo9$20b3o$19bob2o$
19bo12$3o$2bo$bo!
(We can make elbow stuff with this 2 channel construction)

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 12th, 2026, 10:51 am
by I6_I6
EvinZL wrote: September 9th, 2026, 3:47 pm p38 reduction (octamer -> dimer):

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
o$3o2bo$b5o$bo$4b2o4b2o$4b2o4b2o2$13b2o$4b2o7b2o$3b2o2$2o$2o$10bo2b2o
b2o$9b2o2b2obo$9bo6bo$16b2o$6b2o7b3o$6b2o9b2o!
An improvement:

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x = 18, y = 19, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
3bo$2bobo$3bo2$4b2o4b2o$4b2o4b2o2$13b2o$4b2o7b2o$3b2o2$2o$2o$10bo2b2o
$9b2o2b2o$9bo6bo$15bobo$6b2o8bo$6b2o!
EDIT:
Slide gun:

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x = 39, y = 36, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
31b2o$30bob2o$30bo$27b2o2bo$28b2o$27bo4$16b2o9bo$16b2o9b2o$26bobo3$13b
2o$13b2o7b2o$21b2o$11b2o10bo$3b2o6b2o$3b2o26b2o$31b2o2$36b2o$2o11b2o6b
2o13b2o$2o2bo8b3o5b2o$4b2o5b2o11bo$4b2o5b2o10b3o$b3o8bo2b2o$2b2o11b2o
17b3o$35bo$37b2o$b2o19b2o13b2o$b2o9b2o8b2o$4b2o6b2o21b2o$4b2o21b2o6b2o
$27b2o!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 13th, 2026, 3:41 am
by yyh_baboon
another replicator-spaceship reaction:(converts back c/6d to front c/4d,P30)

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 x = 30, y = 34, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
b2o$o2bo$2b2o$2bo7$6b2o$5bo2bo$7b2o$7bo7$11b2o$10bo2bo$12b2o$12bo3$23b
2o2b2o$22bo6bo$23b2o2b2o2$16b2o$15bo2bo$17b2o$17bo!
also a front c/4d to back c/6d P30(plus a block that might be useful)

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 x = 32, y = 24, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
25b2o2b2o$24bo6bo$25b2o2b2o11$23b2o$22bobo$24bo$15b3o$17bo$8b2o6bo$7b
obo$9bo$3o$2bo$bo!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 13th, 2026, 1:46 pm
by NNlk05
Max c/6 partical at even w9, this gives me hope that one may exist at w10 and w11.

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x = 16, y = 38, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
7b2o$2bo3bo2bo3bo$bobobo4bobobo$3bo2bo2bo2bo$5bob2obo$2b2obo4bo
b2o$2bo2b2o2b2o2bo$4bo6bo$4bobo2bobo$6b4o$4b8o$5b2o2b2o$5b6o3$6b
o2bo$3b2o2b2o2b2o$3bo2bo2bo2bo$bo12bo$5o2b2o2b5o$3b3o4b3o$7b2o$3b
2o6b2o$b2o2bo4bo2b2o$bobobob2obobobo$bo2b2ob2ob2o2bo2$5bob2obo$3b
ob2o2b2obo$2bobobo2bobobo$2bo4b2o4bo$2bobobo2bobobo$bo2bo6bo2bo$
bob2o6b2obo$3b3o4b3o$bobo2b4o2bobo$obo2bob2obo2bobo$bobo3b2o3bob
o!
EDIT:
Trying with ikpx2

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#C depth = 112
#C breadth = 12
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 14, y = 28, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
6b2o$bo3bo2bo3bo$obobo4bobobo$2bo2bo2bo2bo$4bob2obo$b2obo4bob2o$bo
2b2o2b2o2bo$3bo6bo$3bobo2bobo$5b4o$3b8o$4b2o2b2o$4b6o3$2bo2bo2bo2b
o$2bo3b2o3bo$b2o2b4o2b2o$2bo2b4o2bo$2b2ob4ob2o$4b2o2b2o$2b3ob2ob3o
$bob3o2b3obo$bo10bo$5b4o$bo2bo4bo2bo$b2o8b2o$2b2ob4ob2o!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 13th, 2026, 2:29 pm
by LuveelVoom
NNlk05 wrote: September 13th, 2026, 1:46 pm Max c/6 partical at even w9, this gives me hope that one may exist at w10 and w11.
May try with gchromo's fork of LLSSS later today. Given that it was able to do w14 3c/7, I suspect it can pull this off.

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 13th, 2026, 3:42 pm
by NNlk05
c/3 block puffer:

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x = 12, y = 8, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
bo8bo$3o6b3o$5b2o$2b3o2b3o$bo2b4o2bo$4bo2bo$5b2o$5b2o!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 13th, 2026, 4:05 pm
by WhiteHawk
NNlk05 wrote: September 13th, 2026, 3:42 pm c/3 block puffer:
Block wicks don't burn easily, but the do often spit out ships that can react

2-puffer Combo that becomes a fuse of unknown speed (faster than c/3)

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x = 63, y = 32, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
bo8bo41bo8bo$3o6b3o39b3o6b3o$5b2o49b2o$2b3o2b3o43b3o2b3o$bo2b4o2bo41b
o2b4o2bo$4bo2bo47bo2bo$5b2o49b2o$5b2o49b2o2$5b2o49b2o$5b2o49b2o2$5b2o
49b2o$5b2o49b2o2$5b2o49b2o$5b2o49b2o2$5b2o49b2o$5b2o49b2o2$5b2o49b2o$
5b2o49b2o2$5b2o49b2o$5b2o49b2o$4bo$4b3o49b2o$5b2o49b2o2$5b2o49b2o$5b2o
49b2o!
The actual reaction

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x = 21, y = 50, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
10bo8bo$9b3o6b3o$14b2o$11b3o2b3o$10bo2b4o2bo$13bo2bo$14b2o$14b2o2$14b
2o$14b2o2$14b2o$14b2o2$14b2o$14b2o2$14b2o$14b2o2$14b2o$14b2o2$14b2o$14b
2o2$bo12b2o$ob2o10b2o$bobo$2bo11b2o$14b2o2$14b2o$14b2o2$14b2o$14b2o2$
14b2o$14b2o2$14b2o$14b2o2$14b2o$14b2o2$14b2o$14b2o!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 13th, 2026, 4:21 pm
by NNlk05
Unsat for 10x20 (2, 1)c/5

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./lls -r B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce -b 10 20 -c -s p5 x2 y1
Getting search pattern...
Done

Preprocessing...
Done

Width: 12
Height: 22
Duration: 6

Number of undetermined cells: 932
Number of variables: 1113
Number of clauses: 348178

Unsatisfiable

Total solver time: 382.487459897995
ikpx:

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#C depth = 8
#C breadth = 20
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 15, y = 15, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
6bo$4b2obo$4b3o$3b2o2b4o$3bo5bobo$4bo5b2o$2b4o3b2o$2bob2o3bobobo$
3bo6bo2bo$b2o2b2ob3o3bo$4ob2o4bo2$5bob2o$5b2o$2b3o!

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#C depth = 3
#C breadth = 8
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 13, y = 13, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
4b3o$4b3o$7bo$3bo4b3o$3b2ob4obo$10b2o$b3o3b3o2bo$bo5b2obo$b4o4bo$
3b3obo$2bo$obo$2o!
EDIT: A c/3d from ikpx
EDIT2:Never mind...

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x = 25, y = 25, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
4bob2o2bo$4bobobobo$5b2obo2bo$11bo$2o2bobo2bo$2bo3bo3b2obo$3ob3o5bobo
$o10bobo$b2o10bobo$4bo9bobo3bo$2o3bo10bobo2b2o$2b2obobo9b3ob2o$6bo6bo
b2ob2o2bo$5bob2o3bob2o2bobo2bo$6bo2bo3bo4b2ob3o$8bo3b2o9b2o$9b2obo8bo
2bo$11bo8bo2b2o$10b5o6b3o$11b2obo4bobo$9bo3bo3bo3b2o$10b2o2bobob4o$10b
3obo3bobo$13b3ob2o$15b3o!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 13th, 2026, 8:28 pm
by NNlk05
DPing, but it won't let me edit the last one for some reason...

A strange-looking c/6d partical:

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
3o$2obo$3bo2$4b3o$4bo$5bo2bo$7b2o$6bob2o$8b2o$8bo!

Re: Blogic (B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce) and its rulespace

Posted: September 14th, 2026, 4:22 am
by FWKnightship
The p79 c/6d gun from Glitter also works in this rule:

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x = 69, y = 51, rule = B3-ekqr4jz5cy6n/S2-in3-cekq4aw5-ce
36b2o$36b2o2$41b2o15b2o$41b2o15b2o2$53b2o$47b2o4b2o$47b2o7b2o$43bo11b
2o5b2o$41bobo13bo4b2o$42bo$44b2o$44b2o3$67b2o$67b2o3$24b2o$25b2o28b2o$
24bo29bob2o$54bo$55bo2$38bo5b3o$24bo12bo8bo$22b2o13b3o5bo$23b2o5$42b2o
$42bobo$3b2o36bobo$3b2o37bo$6bo$5bobo9b2o$5bo11b2o$2o$2o2$20b2o4bo$6b
2o5bo6b2o5b2o$6b2o6bo11b2o$12b3o14b2o$29b2o$30bo$28b2o!