Re: Serizawa
That one is the same as the 3-cell pattern I posted yesterday (rotated 180 degrees).ssaamm wrote:What about this 3-cell rake parent?
x = 3, y = 3, rule = serizawa
2.A2$B.B!
That one is the same as the 3-cell pattern I posted yesterday (rotated 180 degrees).ssaamm wrote:What about this 3-cell rake parent?
x = 3, y = 3, rule = serizawa
2.A2$B.B!
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x = 29, y = 15, rule = Serizawa
5.A2.A$.B2.AB2ABA2.B$A.A8.A.A$4.B.2A.B8$20.A2.A$16.B2.AB2ABA2.B$15.A.
A8.A.A$19.B.2A.B!
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x = 20, y = 10, rule = Serizawa
.B2.B$A.2B.A7$15.B2.B$14.A.2B.A!
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x = 12, y = 3, rule = Serizawa
9.2A$A2BA4.B2.B$9.2A!
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x = 19, y = 1, rule = Serizawa
A2BA3.A2BA4.A2BA!
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x = 27, y = 15, rule = Serizawa
A.A$.B22.A.A$25.B8$3.A18.A$2.A.A16.A.A$.A18.A$2.A.A16.A.A$3.A18.A!Code: Select all
x = 92, y = 38, rule = Serizawa
20.A$19.A.A$18.A3.A$3.A.A11.A.A.A.A13.A51.A$2.A.B.A9.A.A3.A.A11.3A16.
A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A17.2AB$3.B.B9.A9.A12.2A14.AB2AB2AB2AB2AB2ABA17.A.B$2.
A.B.A9.A.A3.A.A11.3A14.A18.A17.B$3.A.A11.A.A.A.A13.A16.A.2A.8A.2A.A
18.B$18.A3.A68.B$19.A.A68.A$20.A3$89.A$19.A.A68.B$20.B15.A.A50.A$3.A.
A31.B$3.ABA$4.A14.A.A$A7.A5.A3.A.B.A3.A7.A$.B5.B7.B3.B.B3.B6.A2.A11.A
7.A2BA2.A2BA2.A2BA7.A$A7.A5.A3.A.B.A3.A$4.A14.A.A67.A$3.ABA82.2AB$3.A
.A83.A.B$20.B69.B$19.A.A68.B$89.A.B$90.B$90.B$91.B$90.B$90.B$91.B$90.
B$90.B$88.A2.B$89.2A!Code: Select all
x = 92, y = 5, rule = Serizawa
.B5.A8.B7.B3.B6.B2.B7.B2.B2.B7.B2.B2.B2.B7.B2.B2.B2.B2.B$A.A3.ABA5.AB
.BA4.A.B.B.A4.B.2B.B5.B.2B.2B.B5.B.2B.2B.2B.B5.B.2B.2B.2B.2B.B$6.A2.A
3.A5.A4.A.B.A4.3A2.3A3.3A5.3A3.3A8.3A3.3A11.3A$8.A5.A3.A6.A.A6.A4.A5.
A7.A5.A10.A5.A13.A$26.A!Code: Select all
x = 72, y = 33, rule = Serizawa
10.A3.B13.B3.B3.B$9.ABA.A.A11.B.A.A.A.A.B$9.A.A.A12.3A2.A.A2.3A$13.A
13.A3.A.A3.A7$6.B3.A3.B15.A3.A3.B16.A5.B2.B5.A$5.A.A.ABA.A.A10.B2.ABA
.ABA.B.A14.ABA3.B.2B.B3.ABA$7.A.A.A.A11.A.A3.A.A.A2.A15.A2.A2.A4.A2.A
2.A$7.A5.A42.A12.A$61.A2.A9$.A15.A$ABA2.A10.ABA2.A$A.A.ABA9.A.A.ABA$
3.A3.A11.A2.A$6.A13.2BA12.B3.A3.B$34.A.A.ABA.A.A3$37.A.A.A$38.BAB!
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x = 18, y = 8, rule = Serizawa
.A5.A2.A5.A$ABA3.AB2ABA3.ABA$A2.A.A6.A.A2.A$2.A3.A.2A.A3.A$6.B4.B2$4.
A8.A$5.A6.A!
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x = 31, y = 31, rule = Serizawa
.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B$A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A$.B3.B3.B3.B3.
B3.B3.B3.B2$.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B$A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A$.
B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B2$.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B$A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A
.A.A.A.A.A$.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B2$.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B$A.A.A.A.A
.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A$.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B2$.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B
3.B$A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A$.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B2$.B3.B3.B
3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B$A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A$.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B
3.B2$.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B$A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A$.B3.B3.B
3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B2$.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B$A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.
A.A$.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B!
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x = 4, y = 4, rule = Serizawa:T4,4
.B$A.A$.B!
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x = 34, y = 21, rule = Serizawa
16.A5.A2.A5.A$15.ABA3.AB2ABA3.ABA$15.A2.A.A6.A.A2.A$17.A3.A.2A.A3.A$
21.B4.B2$19.A8.A$20.A6.A6$32.B$31.A.A2$.A5.B2.B16.A$ABA3.B.2B.B$A2.A
2.A4.A$2.A$7.A2.A!
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x = 34, y = 17, rule = Serizawa
16.A5.A2.A5.A$15.ABA3.AB2ABA3.ABA$15.A2.A.A6.A.A2.A$17.A3.A.2A.A3.A$
21.B4.B2$19.A8.A$20.A6.A5$.A5.B2.B$ABA3.B.2B.B20.B$A2.A2.A4.A19.A.A$
2.A$7.A2.A16.A!
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x = 24, y = 30, rule = Serizawa
5$12.B3.B$11.A.3A.A$14.A$13.3A$8.B11.B$7.A.A9.A.A$14.A2$14.A$13.A.A$
14.A$13.A.A$13.A.A$12.A3.A$11.2A3.2A$6.B3.AB5.BA$5.A.A3.7A$13.3A$14.A!Code: Select all
x = 60, y = 64, rule = Serizawa
7$13.B3.B$12.A.3A.A$15.A$14.3A$9.B11.B$8.A.A.ABA.ABA.A.A$14.3A$15.B$
14.BAB$15.B3$15.A3$7.B$6.A.A4$11.A11.2A$10.ABA11.BA$9.ABA11.2A$10.A9$
35.2A$36.BA$35.2A10$47.2A$48.BA$47.2A2$53.B$52.A.A!
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x = 75, y = 73, rule = Serizawa
3$14.B3.B$13.A.A.A.A2$14.A3BA$10.B5.A5.B$9.A.A3.A.A3.A.A$15.ABA2$16.A
7$8.B$7.A.A.2A7.2A$11.B9.BA$11.2A7.2A10$32.2A$33.BA$32.2A10$44.2A$45.
BA$44.2A$49.B$48.A.A2$41.A$40.ABA$40.A.A6$55.A$56.B$43.A11.A6.A$42.B
18.ABA$36.A6.A17.A.A$35.ABA$35.A.A2$47.A.A$48.B!
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x = 112, y = 200, rule = Serizawa
23$45.B$41.B2.A.A$40.A.BA$41.B.A$40.A2.A$40.3A$39.ABA.A52.B$40.AB50.B
2.A.A$40.A.BA47.A.BA$41.ABA48.B.A$39.A2.A48.A2.A$38.A4.A47.3A$90.ABA.
A$91.AB$91.A.BA$39.A.A5.A44.ABA$40.A.A5.B41.A2.A$38.A2.A.A3.A41.A4.A$
40.A.A$41.A2$53.A36.A.A5.A$54.B36.A.A5.B$38.A14.A35.A2.A.A3.A$40.A50.
A.A$92.A2$59.A44.A$60.B44.B$38.A20.A29.A14.A$40.A50.A3$65.A44.A$66.B
44.B$38.A26.A23.A20.A$40.A50.A3$71.A$72.B$38.A32.A17.A$40.A50.A3$77.A
$78.B$38.A38.A11.A$40.A50.A3$83.A$84.B$38.A44.A5.A$40.A50.A4$87.2A$
38.A47.AB.A$40.A46.ABA.A$88.A3$81.2A$38.A41.AB$40.A40.2A8.A4$75.2A$
38.A35.AB11.A.A$40.A34.2A10.ABA.A$88.A3$69.2A$38.A29.AB$40.A28.2A20.A
4$63.2A$38.A23.AB23.A.A$40.A22.2A22.ABA.A$88.A3$57.2A$38.A17.AB$40.A
16.2A32.A4$51.2A$38.A11.AB35.A.A$40.A10.2A34.ABA.A$88.A3$45.2A$38.A5.
AB$40.A4.2A44.A5$38.A3.A44.A.A$43.B43.ABA.A$40.A.A45.A$41.B3$38.A9.A$
49.B41.A$48.A$89.B$88.A.A$91.B$38.A15.A35.A$55.B$40.A.A11.A$41.B$96.A
$97.B$38.A21.A35.A$61.B$60.A2$102.A$103.B$38.A27.A35.A6.A$67.B40.ABA$
40.A.A23.A41.A.A$41.B$105.A$104.A$38.A33.A32.A.A$73.B32.A$72.A4$38.A
39.A$79.B$40.A.A35.A$41.B3$38.A45.A$85.B$84.A4$38.A51.A$91.B$40.A.A
47.A6.A$41.B54.ABA$96.A.A$40.A$41.A51.A$41.A50.A$93.A.A$36.2A56.A$35.
AB$36.2A$29.B$28.A.A2$32.A$31.2AB$32.B2$33.A$33.2A$35.A!
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x = 24, y = 24, rule = Serizawa
3$10.B3.B$9.B.B.A.A$8.3A$9.A$12.A2.A$11.A2.ABA$11.2B.A.A$10.AB$11.ABA
$12.A2$11.A$17.A$10.3A3.A.A$18.BA$4.B3.A8.2A$3.A.A.B$8.A!
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x = 0, y = 0, rule = Serizawa
B2$3.B2$B15$52.AB!
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x = 35, y = 1219, rule = Serizawa
B.B$7.B85$3.B$6.B$3.B75$5.B2$8.B2$5.B116$4.B$7.B$3.B113$9.B2$9.B.A
109$6.B$2.B3$6.A149$10.B$7.B7$9.A130$18.B$21.A2$17.B156$17.A3$17.B$
13.B123$32.B.A3$31.A124$34.A3$29.B2$29.A!
I take it you've done some searching for 4-cell quadratic-growth patterns, without finding anything? It looks like there's some hope for such a search, but it isn't trivial to decide which patterns will end up with quadratic growth.simsim314 wrote:Here is 5 cells quadratic...
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x = 30, y = 16, rule = Serizawa
B2$3.B2$B11$29.A!Code: Select all
x = 30, y = 28, rule = Serizawa
B2$3.B2$B23$29.A!Code: Select all
#C 4-cell Serizawa quadratic-growth candidate --
#C moving the key cell by (2,1) appears to have the same effect
x = 32, y = 24, rule = Serizawa
B2$3.B2$B19$31.A!Found one, with a slightly-revised search script -- originally I was only looking 16K ticks ahead, not nearly far enough to catch late novelty appearances. Now I'm waiting to see if it looks quadratic at 2 million ticks. Even that may not be enough in a few cases, but for the most part Hashlife is happily running away with the pattern by T=2M.dvgrn wrote:... it may make sense to look for a simpler example of 4-cell quadratic growth.
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x = 35, y = 20, rule = Serizawa
B2$3.B2$B15$34.A!WOW! Yes I was definitely searching for 4 cell quadratics in two waysdvgrn wrote:Found one
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x = 125, y = 18, rule = Serizawa
A13$121.B2$124.B2$121.B!
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x = 373, y = 17, rule = Serizawa
372.A12$B2$3.B2$B!Ah, good -- congratulations! Now I won't be distracted by this search any longer.simsim314 wrote:Found it! Very clear 4 cell quadratic...
This seems to be a copy of the previous pattern.simsim314 wrote:Here is another one with late ignition (starts after 600K):...
Oops copy-paste bug...now fixed.dvgrn wrote:This seems to be a copy of the previous pattern.
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x = 464, y = 14, rule = Serizawa
463.A9$B2$3.B2$B!
Wow, that's an impressive one. By 1.5M ticks it seems to have decided to go quadratic in the first and third quadrants, anyway.simsim314 wrote:Yes there is a lot of "quadratic mess". Here is an example of something which I couldn't even figure out if it quadratic or not, because it's so messy, and it's simply stuck golly before the growth rate is clear...
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x = 60, y = 120, rule = Serizawa
34.A$42.A3$34.B6.A.A$30.A2.B13.A$34.B7$43.A$29.A16.A$33.A.A7.A3$34.A
12$41.A.A$42.B8$5.A$14.A3$4.A8.A.A13.2A$.A28.BA$4.A24.2A6$4.A.A8.A$A
3.ABA11.A$4.3A8.A3$5.A40.B$14.A30.A.A6$36.A$35.ABA$35.A.A11$28.A3$27.
A.A7.A$23.A16.A$37.A7$27.3A16.B$24.A2.AB12.A3.A.A$27.3A5.A.A3$36.A$
28.A7$54.A3$45.A7.A.A$42.A16.A$45.A7$54.B$41.A13.B2.A$45.A.A6.B3$46.A
$54.A!
It's possible to reduce it to three "glider gun loops":knightlife wrote:This p64 "big glider" gun uses a 4-glider reaction I found:
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x = 109, y = 167, rule = Serizawa
11$60.A$88.A3$59.A11.A15.A.A$56.A13.B22.A$59.A11.A6$59.A.A$60.B28.A$
55.A36.A$59.A.A27.A3$60.A20$32.A$23.A63.A.A$87.ABA$88.A$22.A.A2.A5.A$
18.A9.B7.A$27.A5.A$23.A$22.ABA$23.A5$23.A$22.ABA$22.A.A3$31.A.A53.A.A
$31.ABA54.B$32.A7$83.A$92.A$85.A2$22.A35.A13.A$19.A39.B13.B$22.A8.A.A
24.A13.A3$32.A53.A$23.A24$92.A$91.ABA$91.A.A21$64.A3$63.A.A27.A$59.A
36.A$93.A7$63.A11.A$60.A13.B22.A$63.A11.A15.A.A3$92.A$64.A!
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x = 122, y = 70, rule = Serizawa
B2$3.B2$B62$119.B3$117.B3.B!
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x = 72, y = 111, rule = Serizawa
27.B3.B$26.A.B.B.A$27.A3.A2$27.A3.A$26.ABA.ABA$27.A.A.A$27.5A$28.B.B
2$28.B.B$27.B3.B$27.2A.2A$28.ABA$27.2B.2B2$17.A23.A$16.B5.A.2A7.2A.A
5.B$17.A6.4A3.4A6.A$23.3A2.B.B2.3A$25.A.A3.A.A$26.B2.A2.B2$29.A6$29.A
2$27.A3.A3$8.A20.A20.A$7.B43.B$8.A20.A20.A4$65.A$66.B$65.A2$24.2A7.2A
$25.BA5.AB$5.A19.A7.A19.A$4.B49.B$5.A23.A23.A3$27.A3.A2$15.A6.B.2B7.
2B.B6.A$14.B6.B2.B9.B2.B6.B$15.A8.3B5.3B8.A$23.B11.B2$21.B7.A$20.A.A$
29.A5$25.A.A3.A.A$23.A2.B5.B8$21.A8.A2$18.A21.A$26.A31.2A7.A$16.A22.A
19.BA7.B$2.2A54.2A7.A$.AB11.A7.A$2.2A20.A9.A$29.A2$29.A4$10.A.A$10.AB
A$11.A23.A8$37.A$21.A.A2.A$18.A2.ABA16.A$22.A9.A$19.A22.A2$36.A7.A$
24.A9.A$29.A2$29.A!
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x = 27, y = 27, rule = Serizawa
5.A15.A4$4.A4.A7.A2.A.A$A7.B7.B$4.A4.A7.A2$21.B$4.A.A13.A.A$5.B6$21.B
$4.A.A13.A.A$5.B2$9.A7.A4.A$A9.B7.B7.A$4.A.A2.A7.A4.A4$5.A15.A!Code: Select all
x = 33, y = 39, rule = Serizawa
3$16.B2.B$4.A2.A7.B.2B.A5.B2.B$3.AB2ABA5.3A3.A4.A.2B.B$2.A4.BA6.A3.A
9.3A$3.A.2A23.A$10.A$9.2AB$10.A.B$11.B$11.B$12.B$11.A5$11.2A$10.A2.B$
12.B$12.B$11.A.B$10.2AB$11.A6$10.2A$10.2BA$9.A.A$9.A.A$11.BA$9.A.A$
10.A!Code: Select all
x = 219, y = 246, rule = Serizawa
2$70.A13$191.B2$194.B2$191.B203$195.B2$198.B2$195.B13$74.A!Code: Select all
# A delay of 27 timesteps.
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x = 30, y = 27, rule = Serizawa
8.A$15.A7.A4$7.A.A6.A7.A$3.A25.A$16.A7.A6$A8.A$.B13.A$A8.A12.A.A3$23.
A$8.A5$A$.B$A!
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x = 31, y = 27, rule = Serizawa
8.A$16.A7.A4$7.A.A7.A7.A$3.A26.A$17.A7.A6$A8.A$.B14.A$A8.A13.A.A3$24.
A$8.A5$A$.B$A!