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Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 5:34 am
by BokaBB
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:32 am
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:28 am
... @Sch, explain to him.
Explain my idea?
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 4:44 am
We can make it to some degree,but the cellular degree will be too hard and everything would be big.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
This is quite an ambitious project. We should start way smaller. Please look at my chemistry CA proposal.
Okay. I accept to stay small first.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 5:35 am
by Hunting
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:32 am
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:28 am
... @Sch, explain to him.
Explain my idea?
Explain why your idea make sense and making one single cell represent something larger than a real life cell does not.
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 5:36 am
by Hunting
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:34 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:32 am
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:28 am
... @Sch, explain to him.
Explain my idea?
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 4:44 am
We can make it to some degree,but the cellular degree will be too hard and everything would be big.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
This is quite an ambitious project. We should start way smaller. Please look at my chemistry CA proposal.
Okay. I accept to stay small first.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Not that "stay small first", but you have to stay small all the time. The behaviour of a cell or even part of a cell is complicated, and not one decided only from neighbourhood.
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 5:37 am
by BokaBB
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:36 am
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:34 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:32 am
Explain my idea?
This is quite an ambitious project. We should start way smaller. Please look at my chemistry CA proposal.
Okay. I accept to stay small first.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Not that "stay small first", but you have to stay small all the time. The behaviour of a cell or even part of a cell is complicated, and not one decided only from neighbourhood.
Oki - doki. Just don't be agressive.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 5:40 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:35 am
Explain why your idea make sense and making one single cell represent something larger than a real life cell does not.
I'm not so sure about the latter but my idea makes sense because we can make large things without having to make the system too complex. In a human body virtually everything interacts with everything else and we'd need a large neighbourhood but with my chemistry CA we can use the Moore neighbourhood.
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 5:48 am
by Hunting
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:37 am
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:36 am
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:34 am
Okay. I accept to stay small first.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Not that "stay small first", but you have to stay small all the time. The behaviour of a cell or even part of a cell is complicated, and not one decided only from neighbourhood.
Oki - doki. Just don't be agressive.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
You always accuse me of being aggressive while yourself being much ruder.
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 5:49 am
by Hunting
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:40 am
In a human body virtually everything interacts with everything else and we'd need a large neighbourhood
Yeah, that's the point.
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 5:51 am
by BokaBB
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:48 am
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:37 am
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:36 am
Not that "stay small first", but you have to stay small all the time. The behaviour of a cell or even part of a cell is complicated, and not one decided only from neighbourhood.
Oki - doki. Just don't be agressive.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
You always accuse me of being aggressive while yourself being much ruder.
At least I show that better and more acceptable way.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 5:52 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:49 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:40 am
In a human body virtually everything interacts with everything else and we'd need a large neighbourhood
Yeah, that's the point.
Ok, can we get started? Let's first decide how many types of atoms there are. I say six should be enough.
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 5:54 am
by Hunting
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:52 am
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:49 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:40 am
In a human body virtually everything interacts with everything else and we'd need a large neighbourhood
Yeah, that's the point.
Ok, can we get started? Let's first decide how many types of atoms there are. I say six should be enough.
That's perfect. And three of them could be the opposite of three others. Do we still use the valence electron system?
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 5:57 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:54 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:52 am
Ok, can we get started? Let's first decide how many types of atoms there are. I say six should be enough.
That's perfect. And three of them could be the opposite of three others. Do we still use the valence electron system?
No, I think that would overcomplicate things. They shouldn't be opposites of each other, they should all have different properties: reactivity, heat capacity, bonding capacity etc.
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 6:01 am
by Hunting
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:57 am
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:54 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:52 am
Ok, can we get started? Let's first decide how many types of atoms there are. I say six should be enough.
That's perfect. And three of them could be the opposite of three others. Do we still use the valence electron system?
No, I think that would overcomplicate things. They shouldn't be opposites of each other, they should all have different properties: reactivity, heat capacity, bonding capacity etc.
Oh, okay then. Do we still use the valence electron system, question reposted?
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Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 6:02 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
I said no in my last post.
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
by BokaBB
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:01 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:57 am
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:54 am
That's perfect. And three of them could be the opposite of three others. Do we still use the valence electron system?
No, I think that would overcomplicate things. They shouldn't be opposites of each other, they should all have different properties: reactivity, heat capacity, bonding capacity etc.
Oh, okay then. Do we still use the valence electron system, question reposted?
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Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
by Hunting
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:01 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 5:57 am
No, I think that would overcomplicate things. They shouldn't be opposites of each other, they should all have different properties: reactivity, heat capacity, bonding capacity etc.
Oh, okay then. Do we still use the valence electron system, question reposted?
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BokaBB
I agree with your "interesting idea".
Let's say the first element, notation Sch, is of bonding capacity 1, which means it can bond 1 element (?)
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 6:07 am
by BokaBB
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
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BokaBB
I agree with your "interesting idea".
Let's say the first element, notation Sch, is of bonding capacity 1, which means it can bond 1 element (?)
Thanks. Please do a bit of search at least every second day. I please you,you don't have to accept,it is up to you.
Also,please use better and lesser agressive tone. Please again.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 6:13 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
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BokaBB
I agree with your "interesting idea".
Let's say the first element, notation Sch, is of bonding capacity 1, which means it can bond 1 element (?)
First let's make a complete list of the properties.
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 6:29 am
by Hunting
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:13 am
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
Advertiser.... Please say me if you accept my agreement proposal,you didn't say even a word.
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BokaBB
I agree with your "interesting idea".
Let's say the first element, notation Sch, is of bonding capacity 1, which means it can bond 1 element (?)
First let's make a complete list of the properties.
Ok. What's the exact definition of "bonding capacity"?
Heat conductivity
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 6:32 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:29 am
Ok. What's the exact definition of "bonding capacity"?
Heat conductivity
Maximum number of atoms an atom can bond to. I think heat conductivity should be a dual-atom property: we define it for atom pairs and not single atoms. So should reactivity.
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 6:40 am
by Hunting
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:32 am
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:29 am
Ok. What's the exact definition of "bonding capacity"?
Heat conductivity
Maximum number of atoms an atom can bond to. I think heat conductivity should be a dual-atom property: we define it for atom pairs and not single atoms. So should reactivity.
Oh, okay.
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 6:43 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:40 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:32 am
Maximum number of atoms an atom can bond to. I think heat conductivity should be a dual-atom property: we define it for atom pairs and not single atoms. So should reactivity.
Oh, okay.
Any more properties?
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 7:05 am
by BokaBB
Hunting wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
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BokaBB
I agree with your "interesting idea".
Let's say the first element, notation Sch, is of bonding capacity 1, which means it can bond 1 element (?)
How big is the price of one haul?
I promise to try joining soon.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 7:15 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 7:05 am
How big is the price of one haul?
I promise to try joining soon.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Price? what are you talking about?
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 7:25 am
by BokaBB
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 7:15 am
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 7:05 am
How big is the price of one haul?
I promise to try joining soon.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Price? what are you talking about?
I made an agreement with Hunting where he investigates my rules if he can and if he wish in exchange for lots of fun time in Sandbox.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Re: Building A Human Body In CA
Posted: October 27th, 2020, 7:31 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 7:25 am
I made an agreement with Hunting where he investigates my rules if he can and if he wish in exchange for lots of fun time in Sandbox.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
I saw. Can we talk about the CA now? Do you want more properties?