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Re: Larger Than Life rule: Marine

Posted: November 23rd, 2020, 11:42 pm
by MathAndCode
bubblegum wrote: November 18th, 2020, 2:05 pm

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x = 4, y = 7, rule = R2,C2,S12,16,18-27,B17,19-27,NW1222124442240422444212221
o$2o$4o$b2o$4o$2o$o!
That's a nice sparker. Unfortunately, unless there's a faster small spaceship, a gun doesn't seem feasible.

Re: Larger Than Life rule: Marine

Posted: December 10th, 2020, 8:50 am
by lemon41625
I have finally unravelled the secrets of apgsearching neighbourhoods above 24 cells (ruletrees). Unfortunately, this only works until 28 cells. :(

Small spaceships

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x = 6, y = 4, rule = R2,C2,S12,16,18-27,B17,19-27,NW1222124442240422444212221
2o2b2o$2o2b2o$bo2bo$b4o!

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x = 4, y = 10, rule = R2,C2,S12,16,18-27,B17,19-27,NW1222124442240422444212221
bo$b2o$4o$2b2o$2b2o$2b2o$2b2o$4o$b2o$bo!

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x = 6, y = 5, rule = R2,C2,S12,16,18-27,B17,19-27,NW1222124442240422444212221
b4o$6o$6o$b4o$bo2bo!
4c/54o

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x = 12, y = 15, rule = R2,C2,S12,16,18-27,B17,19-27,NW1222124442240422444212221
5b3o$4b5o$3b2o2b2o$2bo4b2o$bo5b3o$o8b2o$o10bo2$o10bo$o8b2o$bo5b3o$2bo4b2o$3b
2o2b2o$4b5o$5b3o!
Non-trivial P296

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x = 8, y = 15, rule = R2,C2,S12,16,18-27,B17,19-27,NW1222124442240422444212221
3bobo$2bo3bo$b2o3b2o$2b2ob2o$2b5o7$o$3o$3o$o!
P11

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = R2,C2,S12,16,18-27,B17,19-27,NW1222124442240422444212221
5bo$4b4o$5b3o$6b3o$bo5bo$3o$b3o$b4o$3bo!
P13

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x = 12, y = 7, rule = R2,C2,S12,16,18-27,B17,19-27,NW1222124442240422444212221
o10bo$2o8b2o$2o8b2o$o10bo$2o8b2o$2o8b2o$o10bo!
EDIT:
c/24d Eater

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x = 12, y = 13, rule = R2,C2,S12,16,18-27,B17,19-27,NW1222124442240422444212221
10bob$9b3o$9b3o$11bo$12b$12b$12b$12b$12b$12b$12b$4o8b$b2o!
Random reactions I will look for conduits for

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = R2,C2,S12,16,18-27,B17,19-27,NW1222124442240422444212221
b2ob$b2ob$4o$4o!
====================================

<offtopic>
I have also found that Golly's RuleTreeGen.java is utterly unoptimised and there is (what appears to be) at least a 10x speed up avaliable.

Anyway, code

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package sample.model.rules.ruleloader.ruletree;

import sample.model.Coordinate;

import java.util.ArrayList;
import java.util.Arrays;
import java.util.HashMap;
import java.util.function.BiFunction;
import java.util.logging.Level;
import java.util.logging.LogManager;
import java.util.logging.Logger;

class Key {
   public int[] arr;
   public Key(int[] arr) {
      this.arr = arr;
   }

   @Override
   public boolean equals(Object o) {
      if (this == o) return true;
      if (o == null || getClass() != o.getClass()) return false;
      Key key = (Key) o;
      return Arrays.equals(arr, key.arr);
   }

   @Override
   public int hashCode() {
      return Arrays.hashCode(arr);
   }
}

/**
 * Mostly taken from Golly
 */
public class RuleTreeGen {
   private final int numStates;
   private final Coordinate[] neighbourhood;
   private final BiFunction<Integer, int[], Integer> f;

   private int nodeSeq = 0;
   private final int[] params;
   private final ArrayList<Key> r = new ArrayList<>();
   private final HashMap<Key, Integer> world = new HashMap<>();

   private final Logger logger;

   /**
    * Constructs a rule tree with the provided parameters
    * @param numStates The number of states in the ruletree
    * @param neighbourhood The neighbourhood of the ruletree
    * @param f The transition function of the ruletree
    */
   public RuleTreeGen(int numStates, Coordinate[] neighbourhood, BiFunction<Integer, int[], Integer> f) {
      this.f = f;
      this.numStates = numStates;
      this.neighbourhood = neighbourhood;

      params = new int[neighbourhood.length + 1];
   }

   private int getNode(Key n) {
      Integer found = world.get(n);
      if (found == null) {
         found = nodeSeq++;
         r.add(n);
         world.put(n, found);
      }

      return found;
   }

   private int recur(int at) {
      if (at == 0)
         return f.apply(params[params.length - 1], Arrays.copyOfRange(params, 0, params.length - 1));

      int[] arr = new int[numStates + 1];
      arr[0] = at;
      for (int i = 0; i < numStates; i++) {
         params[neighbourhood.length + 1 - at] = i;
         arr[i + 1] = recur(at - 1);
      }

      return getNode(new Key(arr));
   }

   public String getRuleTree() {
      // Generating the rule tree
      recur(neighbourhood.length + 1);

      // Writing the rule tree headers
      StringBuilder ruletree = new StringBuilder("@TREE\n");
      ruletree.append("num_states=").append(numStates).append("\n");

      String neighbourhoodString = Arrays.toString(neighbourhood);
      ruletree.append("num_neighbors=").append("[").append(neighbourhoodString, 1,
              neighbourhoodString.length() - 1).append(", (0, 0), (0, 0)]\n");  // Add the 2 (0, 0)s at the back
      ruletree.append("num_nodes=").append(r.size()).append("\n");

      // Ruletree body
      for (Key key: r) {
         for (int val: key.arr)
            ruletree.append(val).append(" ");
         ruletree.append("\n");
      }

      return ruletree.toString();
   }
}
</offtopic>

Re: Larger Than Life rule: Marine

Posted: December 10th, 2020, 11:55 am
by bprentice
lemon41625 wrote: December 10th, 2020, 8:50 am I have also found that Golly's RuleTreeGen.java is utterly unoptimised and there is (what appears to be) at least a 10x speed up avaliable.
I think you should re-examine your priorities. Software should first work and be simple to use and second be efficient.

RuleTreeGen.java:

Provides an empty function in which a user can simply insert Java code that generates the next state from the current state.

Can be compiled from a terminal using:

javac RuleTreeGen.java

Can be run from a terminal using:

java RuleTreeGen > MyRule.rule

Works!

Brian Prentice

Re: Larger Than Life rule: Marine

Posted: August 27th, 2022, 12:27 pm
by HotWheels9232
HelicopterCat3 wrote: November 3rd, 2020, 9:45 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 3rd, 2020, 9:25 am
HelicopterCat3 wrote: November 3rd, 2020, 9:20 am Golly seems to want to be dumb about these custom neighborhoods, so I'm gonna have to get the new beta build...
How'd you discover the ships then? I found 2 from scribbling just now from your LifeViewer from your earlier post.
I too scribbled in LifeViewer after creating this rule.
Edit: 2 going at c/4, 1 going at 2c/7, and 1 going at c/6.

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x = 52, y = 45, rule = R2,C2,S4-6,8-9,B6-9,N@839de7
19$44bo$43b4o$44bob2o$44b2ob2o$45b3o$46bobo4$37b2o$37b3o$37b2o$38b2o7$
27bo$25b4o$26bob2o$27b3o$14b2o$14b2o$14b3o!
Edit 2: These are the 4 most common, naturally-occuring oscillators I've found in ash

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x = 66, y = 23, rule = R2,C2,S4-6,8-9,B6-9,N@839de7
8$9b2o29bo$8bob2o14b2o11b3o$8b2ob2o12b4o10b2obo$9b2o15bob2o10b2o$10bo
15b2o13b3o11b2o$42bo11b4o$54b2o2bo$55bo2bo$56b3o!
Is it actually 2c/7? Seems like 3c/14

Re: Larger Than Life rule: Marine

Posted: September 7th, 2026, 4:26 am
by MathAndCode
I found a signal splitter. (It can also make two minnows or two squids.)

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x = 55, y = 51, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
35b2o$35b2o$33b3ob2o$32b4o2b2o$31bob4ob3o$30b7o3bo$30b4o2bo2b3o$28b6o
2b2ob2o$28b2o2b6ob2o$30bo4b2o2b2o$30b3o6b2o$31b2ob6o$32b7o$34bo6$45b3o
$8b3o35b3o$8b3o32bo2bob3o$8b4o36b3o$9b2o30bo4b6o$46b2o3bo$39bo7bo2b3o
$39b3ob2o2b2ob2o$13b3o23b2o2b6ob2o$3o9bob3o23b4o2b2o2b2o$4o6b3o3bo24b
3o6b2o$4o5bo2bo2b3o23b3ob6o$2bo6bo2b2ob2o26b7o$8b6ob2o28bo$7bo3b2o2b2o
$7b2o6b2o$7b2ob6o13b3o$8b7o15b3o$10bo16bo2bob3o$32b3o$25bo4b6o$30b2o3b
o$23bo7bo2b3o$23b3ob2o2b2ob2o$23b2o2b6ob2o$24b4o2b2o2b2o$25b3o6b2o$25b
3ob6o$27b7o18bo$29bo21b4o$52bobo$52b3o!
Here is a variant:

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x = 53, y = 51, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
33b2o$33b2o$31b3ob2o$30b4o2b2o$29bob4ob3o$28b7o3bo$28b4o2bo2b3o$26b6o
2b2ob2o$26b2o2b6ob2o$28bo4b2o2b2o$28b3o6b2o$29b2ob6o$30b7o$32bo6$43b3o
$44b3o$41bo2bob3o$9bo36b3o$8b3o28bo4b6o$8b4o32b2o3bo$9b4o24bo7bo2b3o$
11b3o23b3ob2o2b2ob2o$11bob2o22b2o2b6ob2o$11b4o23b4o2b2o2b2o$11b5o23b3o
6b2o$b2o6bobo2b2o23b3ob6o$4o4bo2bo2b3o24b7o$b3o7b2ob2o27bo$2b11ob2o$3b
2ob2o2b2o2b2o$4b4o5b2o12b3o$5b9o14b3o$7b6o12bo2bob3o$9bo20b3o$23bo4b6o
$28b2o3bo$21bo7bo2b3o$21b3ob2o2b2ob2o$21b2o2b6ob2o$22b4o2b2o2b2o$23b3o
6b2o$23b3ob6o$25b7o18bo$27bo21b4o$50bobo$50b3o!
This makes it clear that the two squid outputs have different lanes and different timings:

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x = 53, y = 55, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
30b3o$30b3o$30b4o$31b2o4$35b3o$22b3o9bob3o$22b4o6b3o3bo$22b4o5bo2bo2b
3o$24bo6bo2b2ob2o$30b6ob2o$29bo3b2o2b2o$29b2o6b2o$29b2ob6o$30b7o$32bo
6$43b3o$44b3o$41bo2bob3o$9bo36b3o$8b3o28bo4b6o$8b4o32b2o3bo$9b4o24bo7b
o2b3o$11b3o23b3ob2o2b2ob2o$11bob2o22b2o2b6ob2o$11b4o23b4o2b2o2b2o$11b
5o23b3o6b2o$b2o6bobo2b2o23b3ob6o$4o4bo2bo2b3o24b7o$b3o7b2ob2o27bo$2b11o
b2o$3b2ob2o2b2o2b2o$4b4o5b2o12b3o$5b9o14b3o$7b6o12bo2bob3o$9bo20b3o$23b
o4b6o$28b2o3bo$21bo7bo2b3o$21b3ob2o2b2ob2o$21b2o2b6ob2o$22b4o2b2o2b2o
$23b3o6b2o$23b3ob6o$25b7o18bo$27bo21b4o$50bobo$50b3o!
The following reactions allow for the signals to be moved arbitrarily far apart:

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x = 40, y = 25, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
10bo$8b3o$9bob2o$9bo2b2o$9bo3bo$9bo4bo$9bo5bo$15bo$bo6bo7bo$b6o2bob2o
2b2o$2o10bo2b3o$2bo6bo2b2ob2o$2b2o5b5ob2o$3b2o6b2o2b2o$5bo9b2o$6b2ob7o
$8b7o$10bo4$37b2o$37b3o$37b3o$39bo!

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x = 35, y = 59, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
10bo2$10bo5$13b3o$12b5o$10bo5bo$obo6bobob2ob3o$10bo2b2ob3o$8bo5bo2b3o
$7b2ob2o2b2ob2o$7b2ob6ob2o$7b2o4b2o2b2o$8b4o4b2o$10b7o$10b6o$12bo3$23b
o$23b3o$22b3obo$23b2o2bo$27bo3$29bo$16bo11b3o$14b4o6b7o$15b3o5bo2bo2b
3o$15bo7bo2b2ob2o$16bo6b5ob2o$17b2o4bob2o2b2o$22b2o4b2o$21b8o$22b6o$24b
o16$32b2o$31b4o$31b4o$32b2o!

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x = 51, y = 29, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
9bo$9b3o$8b3obo$9b2o2bo$13bo3$15bo$2bo11b3o$4o6b7o$b3o5bo2bo2b3o$bo7b
o2b2ob2o10b3o$2bo6b5ob2o10b3o$3b2o4bob2o2b2o10b4o$8b2o5b2o11b2o$7b9o$
8b7o$10bo$32b3o$19b3o9bob3o$19b4o6b3o3bo$19b4o5bo2bo2b3o$21bo6bo2b2ob
2o$27b6ob2o12b2o$26bo3b2o2b2o11b4o$26b2o6b2o11b4o$26b2ob6o13b2o$27b7o
$29bo!

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x = 68, y = 40, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
20b3o$19b2ob2o$20bo2b2o$21b4o$21bo3bo$13b4o5bo3bo$12bob4o4b2o2b2o$11b
o2b3obo2b3o2b2o$10b2o2bo7b2o2b2o$10b2o2b2o2b2o3bo2b3o$10bo3b7o2b2ob2o
$9bo4bobob7ob2o$10b6o6b2o2b2o$9bob2o2b2o9b2o$17b10o$18b8o$21bo2$13b3o
$12b5o$10bo5bo$obo6bobob2ob3o$10bo2b2ob3o$8bo5bo2b3o$7b2ob2o2b2ob2o$7b
2ob6ob2o$7b2o4b2o2b2o$8b4o5b2o$10b8o$10b7o$12bo5$65bo$64b3o$63b2obo$64b
4o$66bo!
These reactions allow for timing adjustments:

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x = 33, y = 33, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
22b3o$21b5o$19bo5bo$18bobob2ob3o$19bo2b2ob3o$17bo5bo2b3o$16b2ob2o2b2o
b2o$16b2ob6ob2o$16b2o4b2o2b2o$17b4o5b2o$19b8o$19b7o$21bo4$6b3o$5b5o$3b
o5bo$2bobob2ob3o$3bo2b2ob3o$bo5bo2b3o$2ob2o2b2ob2o$2ob6ob2o$2o4b2o2b2o
$b4o5b2o$3b8o$3b7o$5bo$30b2o$29b4o$29b4o$30b2o!

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x = 29, y = 29, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
22b3o$21b5o$19bo5bo$18bobob2ob3o$19bo2b2ob3o$17bo5bo2b3o$16b2ob2o2b2o
b2o$16b2ob6ob2o$16b2o4b2o2b2o$17b4o5b2o$19b8o$19b7o$21bo4$6b3o$5b5o$3b
o5bo$2bobob2ob3o$3bo2b2ob3o$bo5bo2b3o$2ob2o2b2ob2o$2ob6ob2o$2o4b2o2b2o
13b2o$b4o5b2o12b4o$3b8o13b4o$3b7o15b2o$5bo!


Edit: Here are two more reactions that can help move the outputs apart.

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x = 47, y = 27, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
7b3o$7b3o$7b5o$7b2o2bo$7b5o$7b7o$6b4o3bo$7o2bo2b3o$7o2b2ob2o$3ob7ob2o
$2bob2o2b2o2b2o$2b4o5b2o$5bob5o14bo$5b6o15b3o$7bo17b5o$26bo3bo$26bo3b
o$26b6o$25b3o3bo$20bo3bo2bo2b3o$18b7o2b2ob2o$19b2o2b6ob2o$19b2o2bo2b2o
2b2o11b3o$20bo2bo5b2o12b3o$21b3ob5o14b3o$23b6o$25bo!

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x = 58, y = 36, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
10bo$8b3o$9bob2o$9bo2b2o$9bo3bo$9bo4bo$9bo5bo$15bo$bo6bo7bo$b6o2bob2o
2b2o$2o10bo2b3o$2bo6bo2b2ob2o$2b2o5b5ob2o$3b2o6b2o2b2o$5bo8b2o$6b2ob6o
$8b6o16bo$10bo19b3o$29b5o$30bo3bo$30bo3bo$30b6o$29b3o3bo$24bo3bo2bo2b
3o$22b7o2b2ob2o$23b2o2b6ob2o$23b2o2bo2b2o2b2o$24bo2bo5b2o$25b3ob5o$27b
6o$29bo3$54b3o$54b3o$55b3o!


Another edit: This is a predecessor of a hydrothermal vent that has six different levels at generation 31,000, eight different levels at generation 88,500, and nine different levels at generation 135,500. It finally stabilizes into a p2 oscillator at generation 173,823.

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
2b3o$b2ob3o$4o3bo$ob7o$2obo2b3o$bobo3b2o$bob2o2bo$2b8o$3b3ob3o$7b3o!


Yet another edit: Here is a way to shift a squid using a p30 sparker instead of a p14 sparker.

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x = 11, y = 24, rule = R2,C2,S4,6-9,B6-8,N@03ddef
2bo2b2o$bob4o$o3b2ob2o$bobobob2o$b2o2bob2o$5o2b2o$2o4b2o$2b5o$2b4o12$
8b2o$7b4o$7b4o$8b2o!
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