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Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: March 20th, 2020, 8:27 am For Chinese (I am not good at Chinese), can we use 机 as a abbrev. of 滑翔机? It is the last character and it sounds like "G" (which is the abbrev. of glider)

Herschel might be 河数 (Literally means "River Number", which gives some reference to conduits)
Maybe make cis 正 and trans 反

Greek maybe cis σις and trans τρανς
Russian maybe cis сис and trans транс

Hunting wrote: March 20th, 2020, 9:54 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: March 20th, 2020, 8:27 am Herschel might be 河数 (Literally means "River Number", which gives some reference to conduits)

Why is Herschel a 数?

The name is commonly ascribed to the Herschel heptomino's similarity to a planetary symbol ♄ erroneously attributed to Uranus (discovered by William Herschel in 1781.)

GUYTU6J wrote: March 20th, 2020, 10:43 am

Hunting wrote: March 20th, 2020, 9:54 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: March 20th, 2020, 8:27 am Herschel might be 河数 (Literally means "River Number", which gives some reference to conduits)

Why is Herschel a 数?

Of course not, Herschel is not a number (as EV's transliteration "河数" suggests). Lifewiki says that

The name is commonly ascribed to the Herschel heptomino's similarity to a planetary symbol ♄ erroneously attributed to Uranus (discovered by William Herschel in 1781.)

But the symbol is for Saturn "土星" actually. Should we name it "土"? Or... it looks like 上 or 匕 more?
By the way, I saw your new Lifewiki page claiming that you're going to use the etymology from 果壳. Do you have a list for it?

GUYTU6J wrote: February 21st, 2020, 9:40 pm The page on Pattern naming lists some conjunctions and prefixes. Here's my idea:

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On 配
At 接
And 与
Tie 连
Bridge 搭
Bi- 双
Mirrored 映
Rotated 旋
Siamese 并
Weld 杂
Cis- 顺
Trans- 反
Ortho- 邻
Meta- 间
Shift- 偏
Para- 对
Up 上
Down 下

Another issue I'd like to mention is about the infinite extensible families. I plan to denote the length with 甲，乙，丙，丁，戊，己，庚，辛，壬，癸，十一，十二，十三，...，like how we name straight alkanes. It will apply to boat, ship, canoe, barberpole and xWSS families.

Pattern 图案
Object 物体
Soup 汤
Ash 汤渣
Spark 火花
Methuselah 寿星
Still life 静物
Oscillator 振荡器
Spaceship 飞船
Puffer 播种机（不是“河豚”！）
Rake 洒水车（不是“耙”！）
Gun 枪
Wick 灯芯
Fuse 导火索
Agar 基质（“琼脂”只是一种特定成分的？）
Breeder 繁殖机
Spacefiller 填充器
Factory 工厂
Conduit 导管
Garden of Eden 伊甸园

Block 方块
Blinker 闪闪（不是“眨眼”！）
Glider 滑翔机
Tub 井
Boat 舟
Ship 船
Beehive 蜂房（改主意了，蜂窝/蜂巢更大）
Snake 蛇
Aircraft Carrier 引号（不打算直译，因为它明显更向竖排文字中的引号﹂﹁）
Barge 舢板（？）
Pond 池
Loaf 面包片
Eater 1 吃货1号 （Fishhook 鱼钩）
LWSS/MWSS/HWSS/OWSS 轻型飞船/中型飞船/重型飞船/超重飞船

Pi-heptomino 匚形七联骨牌
B-heptomino ㄛ形七联骨牌
Herschel ㄐ
Ghost herschel ㄣ
T-tetromino ㄒ形四联骨牌
Stairstep hexomino ㄠ形六联骨牌

GUYTU6J wrote: March 20th, 2020, 11:41 am Wow, you're fast! My crude idea on translating the Pattern naming page may help you start:
命名.txt

yujh wrote: March 21st, 2020, 2:19 am you call longlonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglongship what?
I disagree with something like 长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长船，but 二十长船 is also very strange.For the English part it's also strange, but you know people are keeping calling them that.
Translation is either right or wrong.

yujh wrote: March 21st, 2020, 2:19 am you call longlonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglongship what?
I disagree with something like 长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长长船，but 二十长船 is also very strange.For the English part it's also strange, but you know people are keeping calling them that.
Translation is either right or wrong.

Hunting wrote: March 21st, 2020, 1:37 am 这一点也不果壳。
I highly disagree on Puffer.

GUYTU6J wrote: March 21st, 2020, 2:42 am

Hunting wrote: March 21st, 2020, 1:37 am 这一点也不果壳。
I highly disagree on Puffer.

May I have a look at your naming scheme, then?

GUYTU6J wrote: March 21st, 2020, 2:42 am But why do we have to keep the word 长?

yujh wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:04 am

GUYTU6J wrote: March 21st, 2020, 2:42 am But why do we have to keep the word 长?

So you call it 非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常船 or ?

GUYTU6J wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:07 am

yujh wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:04 am

GUYTU6J wrote: March 21st, 2020, 2:42 am But why do we have to keep the word 长?

So you call it 非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常船 or ?

No, it is 十六船.

GUYTU6J wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:07 am

yujh wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:04 am

GUYTU6J wrote: March 21st, 2020, 2:42 am But why do we have to keep the word 长?

So you call it 非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常船 or ?

No, it is 十六船.

yujh wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:11 am

GUYTU6J wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:07 am

yujh wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:04 am

So you call it 非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常非常船 or ?

No, it is 十六船.

so how will you call 16 ships?

Hunting wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:13 am

yujh wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:11 am

GUYTU6J wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:07 am
No, it is 十六船.

so how will you call 16 ships?

That's correct, I disagree on that one.

- The result of this methuselah contains 十六（个）船，七十（个）方块，七十八（个）闪闪……

- Wow! a very^16 long ship?

GUYTU6J wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:30 am

Hunting wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:13 am

yujh wrote: March 21st, 2020, 3:11 am

so how will you call 16 ships?

That's correct, I disagree on that one.

- The result of this methuselah contains 十六（个）船，七十（个）方块，七十八（个）闪闪……

- Wow! a very^16 long ship?

所以为何要丢掉量词呢，如果意思已经变了的话？

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: March 22nd, 2020, 6:46 am Greek LWSS, MWSS and HWSS:
λβσς, μβσς, χβσς

Greek Loafer, Spider, Cordership:
Λοϕερ, Σπιδερ, Κορδερχσιπ

French Glider:
planeur

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: March 20th, 2020, 8:27 am For Chinese (I am not good at Chinese), can we use 机 as a abbrev. of 滑翔机? It is the last character and it sounds like "G" (which is the abbrev. of glider)