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That’s a fairly good name.Saka wrote:I've always referred to it as the UFO or "flying saucer"Moosey wrote:25P3H1V0.1 needs a name incredibly badly. I feel it should be called "flat bug" or something.
Anybody else got suggestions?
I think dvgrn already proposed a name, but precisely the Simpson one.Moosey wrote:That’s a fairly good name.
47575M/47487M needs a name.
Who is the spouse of a Homer?*
*Preferably not a Simpson
Unfortunately, there is effectively nothing known for sure about the personal life of the original Greek Homer - not even if there really was a single person named Homer who wrote the Iliad and Odyssey.Code: Select all
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Jerry? What?Gustone wrote:58P5H1V1 just needs to be named Jerry (this may or may not be condisered as a joke)
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25P3H1V0.1 - Conveyor belt
Edge repair spaceship 1 , 25P3H1V0.2 , 60P3H1V0.3 , etc short c/3 using the same parts - Conveyor
I’m honestly better with them sayingA hypothetical person wrote:This rake uses 100 different types of conveyor
As for me, I still thinkAn alternate version of that hypothetical person wrote:This rake uses N_1P3H1V0, N_2P3H1V0...
I wrote:30P5H2V0 for some reason makes me think of pocket watches; perhaps pocketwatch?
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This phase in particular makes me think of pocketwatches:
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I agree with these 2 points. Conveyor doesn't seem fitting.Moosey wrote:Jerry? What?Gustone wrote:58P5H1V1 just needs to be named Jerry (this may or may not be condisered as a joke)
Others:
25P3H1V0.1 - Conveyor belt
Edge repair spaceship 1 , 25P3H1V0.2 , 60P3H1V0.3 , etc short c/3 using the same parts - Conveyor
Re: conveyor: That would be confusing.
I’m honestly better with them sayingA hypothetical person wrote:This rake uses 100 different types of conveyor
An alternate version of that hypothetical person wrote:This rake uses N_1P3H1V0, N_2P3H1V0...
In Shinjuku, I gave the name lei to 12P2, simply because it looks like a lei (and Comfey):Gustone wrote:12P2 - Squasher
77P77 - Twin fire
41P7.2 - Hare
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xp2_wg0k053z642:pentapole|quinpole
xp2_wgj1u0og26z25421:20p2I've been bold and moved the LifeWiki page on 12P2 to lei.Moosey wrote:We should just call 12P2 unnameable.
Seriously
I think Freywa's mention of "being bold" might be a reference to the Wikipedia policy of doing exactly that. The reasoning behind this policy (which also holds here) is that any changes to a wiki are easy to reverse, so one should not fear pushing boundaries. We can always reverse the renaming if we want to.AforAmpere wrote:Isn't that kind of against what we are supposed to do? The naming either goes to the discoverer or the community. You are a part of the community, but nobody else really voted on it.
Apple Bottom echoed my thoughts on this pretty well: named objects are generally a good thing to give patterns a sort of "personality," but these names should be agreed upon by the community (i.e. given the OK by at least a few people in this thread or somewhere else) before being added to the LifeWiki. I personally have no objection to "Lei" for 12P2, but I'd like to hear if anyone else has other suggestions/comments. Of course, like Macbi said, it's not like we can't just revert the page move later.AforAmpere wrote:Isn't that kind of against what we are supposed to do? The naming either goes to the discoverer or the community. You are a part of the community, but nobody else really voted on it.
I personally think "lei" is a perfectly good name -- but then again, I thought "12P2" was a perfectly good name, too. I'm not too worried either way.Ian07 wrote:Apple Bottom echoed my thoughts on this pretty well: named objects are generally a good thing to give patterns a sort of "personality," but these names should be agreed upon by the community (i.e. given the OK by at least a few people in this thread or somewhere else) before being added to the LifeWiki. I personally have no objection to "Lei" for 12P2, but I'd like to hear if anyone else has other suggestions/comments. Of course, like Macbi said, it's not like we can't just revert the page move later.AforAmpere wrote:Isn't that kind of against what we are supposed to do? The naming either goes to the discoverer or the community. You are a part of the community, but nobody else really voted on it.
I made the initial move to put an end to what would otherwise be endless speculation on possible names for 12P2, proposals for which I had seen earlier in the thread. I have refrained from randomly renaming other patterns because they're like dust particles in space – floating around, too many to count.dvgrn wrote:I'd like to be a little more careful about new names than just getting an "OK by at least a few people", though. It's possible for small groups of people on a thread like this to all become over-enthusiastic together... Ideally it would be good if a term was actually "used by at least a few people", or preferably more than a few, before it found its way into the LifeWiki. If someone calls 12P2 a "lei", and expects to be understood by other people in the conversation, then that's common usage, or close enough -- and a link to that specific usage can be added to the LifeWiki.
I think that you can make a similar argument for any pattern, if, admittedly, not as good an argument.Freywa wrote:...
However, the lei – 12P2 – is special. It is symmetrical and it is the only one of the 12-bit p2s that had no established name in Niemiec's database (as compared to the three unnamed 14-bit p2s), and it has turned up a fair number of times in asymmetric soups (which led to an 8G synthesis for it). I believe it was the smallest strict periodic pattern of any kind by number of cells that had no established name then.
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That all seems perfectly fine to me. Every now and then there's an exception that proves the rule. The lack of objections to 'lei' seems to indicate this was one of those cases where it was easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.Freywa wrote:It seemed to be yearning for a formal name out of all the oscillators, like how Ed Pegg wrote in 2003 for the MAA that the cubic symmetric graph F24A deserved a name – this graph was named the Nauru graph by Eppstein in 2007.
The new idea I'd like to implement going forward -- and that I'd like to get "an OK from at least a few people" on first! -- is that standard policy for cases like this should beIn general, if someone invents a new term, they should let someone else document it on the LifeWiki.
This will make it much easier to catch over-enthusiastic additions, bring up objections, and revert changes when that's necessary (if someone thinks of a name that's already in use somewhere else, for example).No matter who invented a term, if it is known to be a new invention, a reference should be added to make it clear who invented it when, in the same edit that adds the term to the LifeWiki. This can be either a link to something like a forum message, or text added to the body of the article if necessary.
That does sound like a good policy.dvgrn wrote:The new idea I'd like to implement going forward -- and that I'd like to get "an OK from at least a few people" on first! -- is that standard policy for cases like this should be
This will make it much easier to catch over-enthusiastic additions, bring up objections, and revert changes when that's necessary (if someone thinks of a name that's already in use somewhere else, for example).No matter who invented a term, if it is known to be a new invention, a reference should be added to make it clear who invented it when, in the same edit that adds the term to the LifeWiki. This can be either a link to something like a forum message, or text added to the body of the article if necessary.
AgreedMacbi wrote:That does sound like a good policy
I strongly disagree on this one. I've always called this one "butterfly" because it looks like it's flapping it's wings and has 2 antennae.Moosey wrote: 44P5H2V0: Chestnut. Not because it resembles a chestnut much but because it’s a “tough nut to crack”.
You were the one that suggested that name, haha. But I guess I did implicitly suggest that by proposing "Double Headed Internal Picnic" for 274P6H1V0. I used to think this was X66, but I thought the name for X66 was X33, so I've personally referred to this ship as and am proposing the name "X33".Moosey wrote: 60P5H2V0: Picnic, like saka suggested.
I've always thought this resembled 56P6H1V0 and Weekender a bit, I have no idea why.Moosey wrote: 70P5H2V0: I have no idea, perhaps coco-de-mer since it resembles a large 44P5H2V0.
Walrus?Moosey wrote: c/3s:
233P3H1V0: Orthogonal seal.
I've always thought this as a "less aggressive" version of Wasp, Bee? (Although then it might be confused with the queen bee).Moosey wrote: c/4s:
37P4H1V0: T kettle, or anything else that’s a play on T. I dunno.
I wont say my thoughts on this ship, and others have probably had the same thoughts as well upon seeing it...Moosey wrote: 46P4H1V0: fast blobfish, or something.
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