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Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 28th, 2020, 6:36 pm
by EvinZL
MathAndCode wrote: November 28th, 2020, 6:31 pm
EvinZL wrote: November 28th, 2020, 6:26 pmHerschel or r? If by "common" you mean forms the most not necessarily from a three glider collision
I meant that forms from the most three-glider collisions.
idk but herschel forms from a lot of them (make a b for 2g, then delete the block)

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 28th, 2020, 6:40 pm
by MathAndCode
EvinZL wrote: November 28th, 2020, 6:36 pmidk but herschel forms from a lot of them (make a b for 2g, then delete the block)
Yes, but should slightly different timings count?

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 28th, 2020, 6:57 pm
by bubblegum
MathAndCode wrote: November 28th, 2020, 6:40 pm
EvinZL wrote: November 28th, 2020, 6:36 pmidk but herschel forms from a lot of them (make a b for 2g, then delete the block)
Yes, but should slightly different timings count?
Nah.

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 28th, 2020, 7:10 pm
by MathAndCode
bubblegum wrote: November 28th, 2020, 6:57 pmNah.
So then what object that has no two-glider synthesis is formed by the most three-glider collisions where the third glider would not have led to the same result in the same way by arriving one or two generations earlier?

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 28th, 2020, 7:15 pm
by goldenratio
MathAndCode wrote: November 28th, 2020, 7:10 pm So then what object that has no two-glider synthesis is formed by the most three-glider collisions where the third glider would not have led to the same result in the same way by arriving one or two generations earlier?
Almost certainly the R, or if you wanted to be annoying the pre-block (all 2G collisions which produce it have dying sparks at that stage) or the 4 cell Z-tetromino beehive predecessor (the 2G also produces a spark at that stage)

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 28th, 2020, 7:16 pm
by ENORMOUS_NAME
are there any asymmetric objects that appear more common in some symmetry

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 28th, 2020, 7:48 pm
by goldenratio
xp4_37bkiczy1359a4 is one of them
Achim's p8 (xp8_25du4szx327ba4) is also much more common in D2_x, though there's slightly more soups in C1 and many more soups in G1 as they have been searched a lot more.

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 28th, 2020, 7:55 pm
by MathAndCode
goldenratio wrote: November 28th, 2020, 7:15 pmAlmost certainly the R
That was my best guess, but other common sequences, like wing and century, would also be plausible.

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 29th, 2020, 3:03 pm
by Schiaparelliorbust
Are there any metacells or any other method of emulating Margolus rules in CGoL?

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 29th, 2020, 3:53 pm
by bubblegum
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 29th, 2020, 3:03 pm Are there any metacells or any other method of emulating Margolus rules in CGoL?
0E0Ps or OTCAs running 2x2.

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 29th, 2020, 4:00 pm
by Schiaparelliorbust
bubblegum wrote: November 29th, 2020, 3:53 pm
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 29th, 2020, 3:03 pm Are there any metacells or any other method of emulating Margolus rules in CGoL?
0E0Ps or OTCAs running 2x2.
Ok, well I know that. I even just accidentally made a B1 rule that can emulate a Margolus rule (B12347/S123458). Let me rephrase my question then: Are there any metacells or any other method of emulating any arbitrary Margolus rules in CGoL?

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 29th, 2020, 4:05 pm
by Macbi
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 29th, 2020, 4:00 pm
bubblegum wrote: November 29th, 2020, 3:53 pm
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 29th, 2020, 3:03 pmAre there any metacells or any other method of emulating Margolus rules in CGoL?
0E0Ps or OTCAs running 2x2.
Ok, well I know that. I even just accidentally made a B1 rule that can emulate a Margolus rule (B12347/S123458). Let me rephrase my question then: Are there any metacells or any other method of emulating any arbitrary Margolus rules in CGoL?
I think the 0E0Ps can simulate arbitrary Margolus rules.

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 29th, 2020, 6:02 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
What is the smallest-period oscillator for which every cell in the rotor changes state at least four times per period? Six times? What about the highest-period oscillator for which every cell in the rotor changes state exactly two times per period?

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 29th, 2020, 7:22 pm
by praosylen
Hdjensofjfnen wrote: November 29th, 2020, 6:02 pm What is the smallest-period oscillator for which every cell in the rotor changes state at least four times per period? Six times? What about the highest-period oscillator for which every cell in the rotor changes state exactly two times per period?
For any N, there's a p43N+1 oscillator where every cell in the rotor changes state at least 2N times per period — but for specific values of N I'm not sure about improvements to that upper bound...

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: November 30th, 2020, 2:17 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Macbi wrote: November 29th, 2020, 4:05 pm I think the 0E0Ps can simulate arbitrary Margolus rules.
It doesn't say anything on the LifeWiki page like that.

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: December 1st, 2020, 1:50 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Is there an existing catalogue of eater welds? Or should I make one?

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: December 2nd, 2020, 6:56 am
by ColorfulGalaxy
Hdjensofjfnen wrote: December 1st, 2020, 1:50 pm Is there an existing catalogue of eater welds? Or should I make one?
What do you mean by "eater welds"?
Does that include oscillators like "eater plug"?

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: December 2nd, 2020, 7:04 am
by Hunting
ColorfulGalaxy wrote: December 2nd, 2020, 6:56 am
Hdjensofjfnen wrote: December 1st, 2020, 1:50 pm Is there an existing catalogue of eater welds? Or should I make one?
What do you mean by "eater welds"?
Does that include oscillators like "eater plug"?
No. Sometimes we need eaters close to each other in conduits, so new still lives with two eater heads are needed.

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: December 2nd, 2020, 1:02 pm
by bubblegum
ColorfulGalaxy wrote: December 2nd, 2020, 6:56 am
Hdjensofjfnen wrote: December 1st, 2020, 1:50 pm Is there an existing catalogue of eater welds? Or should I make one?
What do you mean by "eater welds"?
Does that include oscillators like "eater plug"?
It does include oscillators, but ones like test tube baby, with two heads.

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: December 6th, 2020, 12:38 pm
by otismo
Colors in Golly

how does one get those fading trails ?

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: December 6th, 2020, 7:11 pm
by MathAndCode
Would this dot sparker count as medium or strong?

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x = 8, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
B5.AB$.A$.B3A$3.A$5.BA!

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: December 6th, 2020, 7:16 pm
by goldenratio
MathAndCode wrote: December 6th, 2020, 7:11 pm Would this dot sparker count as medium or strong?

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x = 8, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
B5.AB$.A$.B3A$3.A$5.BA!
Medium, as the sparker is still changed (advanced by one generation) if the spark is removed even if it technically isn't destroyed.

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: December 6th, 2020, 7:18 pm
by MathAndCode
goldenratio wrote: December 6th, 2020, 7:16 pmMedium, as the sparker is still changed (advanced by one generation) if the spark is removed even if it technically isn't destroyed.
Ah; thank you for explaining.

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: December 7th, 2020, 8:32 pm
by creeperman7002
How can I search custom rules in apgsearch?

Re: Thread for basic questions

Posted: December 8th, 2020, 1:02 am
by Hunting
creeperman7002 wrote: December 7th, 2020, 8:32 pm How can I search custom rules in apgsearch?
./apgluxe --rule (Your rule)

Then run ./apgluxe again

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