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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 12th, 2020, 5:42 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
And that explains why the repeat time of the StateInvestigator bumper is 34, and SI bouncer is 22.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 14th, 2020, 3:12 pm
by EvinZL
Guam's dot-to-2G can accept a banana spark from the kickback, making an overunity
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x = 42, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
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Time to make that hilarious gun
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 15th, 2020, 4:48 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
The new reflector (used in the P10 glider shuttle), is, infuriatingly, one lane off:
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x = 303, y = 73, rule = EV2QuadColor
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#C [[ STOP 365 ]]
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 15th, 2020, 5:06 pm
by EvinZL
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: November 15th, 2020, 4:48 pm
The new reflector (used in the P10 glider shuttle), is, infuriatingly, one lane off:
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x = 303, y = 73, rule = EV2QuadColor
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#C [[ STOP 365 ]]
But four copies of it should work
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 15th, 2020, 5:07 pm
by wwei23
EvinZL wrote: November 15th, 2020, 5:06 pm
But four copies of it should work
That's a 180-degree reflection reaction, though. And we can't use two copies of the mechanism because that reduces to this:
2(8n+4)=40m+5
One side will always be even and one will always be odd.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 16th, 2020, 1:38 pm
by nokangaroo
MathAndCode wrote: November 12th, 2020, 3:37 pm
A two-glider collision can provide the bouncer's spark, reducing the minimum period to 22.
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x = 64, y = 66, rule = B3/S23
61bobo$61b2o$62bo3$57bo$3bo51b2o$bobo52b2o$2b2o3$8bo$9bo$7b3o3$46bo$14bo29b2o$12bobo30b2o$13b2o3$19bo19bobo$20bo18b2o$18b3o19bo4$25bo$23bobo$24b2o12b2o$34b2o2b2o$33bobo$34bo2$36b2o$36bo$37b3o$39bo3$23bo$23b2o$22bobo4$17b2o$18b2o$17bo3$12bo$12b2o$11bobo4$6b2o$7b2o$6bo3$bo$b2o$obo!
Thanks for the 2glider bouncer spark. This collision works with bumpers too, in various ways:
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x = 443, y = 148, rule = B3/S23
bobo$2b2o$2bo6$10bo$11b2o$10b2o3$317bo$315bobo$316b2o2$18bobo$19b2o$
19bo2$325bo$326bo$324b3o$167bo$27bo140b2o$28b2o137b2o$27b2o3$334bo$
332bobo$333b2o$175bobo$35bobo138b2o$36b2o138bo$36bo2$342bo$343bo$341b
3o$184bo$44bo140b2o$45b2o137b2o$44b2o3$351bo$349bobo$350b2o$192bobo$
52bobo138b2o$53b2o138bo$53bo2$359bo$360bo$358b3o$201bo$61bo140b2o$62b
2o137b2o$61b2o3$83bo284bo$81b3o282bobo$80bo286b2o$70b2o8b2o127bobo$
210b2o$69bo5bo134bo$74bo2bo$71bobo3bo312bo$69b2o2bo3bo298b2o10b3o$74b
3o301bo8bo$75bo311b2o$218bo157bo$219b2o$218b2o20bo136b2o2b3o$60b2o176b
3o139bob3o$59bobo175bo142bo3bo$61bo20b3o152b2o142b3o$82bo$83bo$227b2o
2b3o134b2o$230bob3o134b2o$226bo3bo3bo133bo$231b3o$51b3o174bo161b2o$53b
o37b2o133b2o161b2o$52bo38bobo297bo$91bo$360bo$360b2o$240b2o117bobo$
217b2o20b2o$43b2o171bobo22bo157bo$42bobo173bo179b2o$44bo54b3o296bobo$
99bo$100bo$351b2o$249bo102b2o$248b2o101bo$208b3o37bobo$34b3o173bo196b
2o$36bo71b2o99bo196b2o$35bo72bobo297bo$108bo$343bo$343b2o$257b2o83bobo
$200b2o54b2o$26b2o171bobo56bo157bo$25bobo173bo213b2o$27bo88b3o296bobo$
116bo$117bo$334b2o$266bo68b2o$265b2o67bo$191b3o71bobo$17b3o173bo230b2o
$19bo105b2o65bo230b2o$18bo106bobo297bo$125bo$326bo$326b2o$274b2o49bobo
$183b2o88b2o$9b2o171bobo90bo157bo$8bobo173bo247b2o$10bo122b3o296bobo$
133bo$134bo$317b2o$283bo34b2o$282b2o33bo$174b3o105bobo$3o173bo264b2o$
2bo139b2o31bo264b2o$bo140bobo297bo$142bo3$291b2o$166b2o122b2o$165bobo
124bo$167bo!
The repeat time is still 34 though.
A dependent syringe can spark bouncers:
Code: Select all
x = 299, y = 363, rule = B3/S23
296bobo$296b2o$297bo2$obo$b2o$bo13$277bo$276bo$276b3o2$21bo$22bo$20b3o
14$258bo$256b2o$257b2o2$40bo$41b2o$40b2o14$237bo$237bobo$237b2o2$61bo$
59bobo$60b2o14$217bobo$217b2o$218bo2$79bobo$80b2o$80bo13$198bo$197bo$
197b3o2$100bo$101bo$99b3o9$294bo$294bobo$294b2o3$179bo$177b2o$178b2o2$
119bo$120b2o$119b2o9$274bobo$274b2o$148b2o5b2o118bo$145bo3bo5b2o$143b
3o3bobo$142bo7b2o$142b2o10b2o$127b2o24bobo$128bo25bo$128bob2o8bo$129bo
2bo5bobo8b3o$130b2o7b2o6bo3b2o$147bobo2b2o$146bo5bo$147bo2b2o3b2o$147b
o7bobo$157bo$157b2o2$171b2o82bo$148b2obo19bobo80bo$148b2ob3o19bo80b3o$
154bo18b2o$148b2ob3o$149bobo$137b2o10bobo$137b2o11bo13$236bo$234b2o$
235b2o18$215bo$215bobo$215b2o18$195bobo$195b2o$196bo12$147b2o11bo$147b
2o10bobo$159bobo$158b2ob2o2$158b2ob4o5b2o$158b2obo2bo5b2o$164bobo$165b
2o$169b2o$168bobo$157bo11bo$157bo2b2o$156bo5bo$157bobo2b2o$140b2o7b2o
6bo3b2o$139bo2bo5bobo8b3o$138bob2o8bo$138bo$137b2o26b2o$152b2o8bobo2bo
$152bo7b3obob2o$153b3o3bo4bo$155bo4b3obo4b2o$162b2o5bo$170b3o$172bo17b
2o$190bobo$192bo$192b2o6$129b2o$130b2o$129bo18$109b3o$111bo$110bo17$
90bo$90b2o$89bobo18$70b2o$69bobo$71bo18$50b2o$51b2o$50bo18$30b3o$32bo$
31bo!
Also works with bumpers, though this probably isn't needed:
Code: Select all
x = 297, y = 161, rule = B3/S23
294bo$294bobo$294b2o3$obo$b2o$bo13$274bobo$274b2o$275bo2$21bo$22bo$20b
3o13$255bo$254bo$254b3o3$40bo$41b2o$40b2o13$236bo$234b2o$235b2o3$61bo$
59bobo$60b2o13$215bo$215bobo$215b2o3$79bobo$80b2o$80bo13$195bobo$195b
2o$196bo2$100bo$101bo$99b3o13$176bo$175bo$175b3o3$119bo$120b2o$119b2o
5$137b2o$137bo$135bobo9b2o$135b2o11bo$148bobo$149b2o2$145bo$143b3o7b2o
$142bo9bo2bo$142b2o9bobo$127b2o25bo$128bo$128bob2o8bo$129bo2bo5bobo8b
3o$130b2o7b2o6bo3b2o$147bobo2b2o$146bo5bo$147bo2b2o3b2o$147bo7bobo$
157bo$157b2o3$148b2obo$148b2ob3o$154bo$148b2ob3o$149bobo$137b2o10bobo$
137b2o11bo!
For completeness, fake p38 and p41 oscillators can also be found in the jslife collection (osc-supported).
There is also a self-sustained periodic syringe, but here we are entering the realm of obfuscated code:
Code: Select all
x = 151, y = 86, rule = LifeHistory
102.A11.2A$101.A.A9.B2AB$30.2A61.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$30.A.A59.A.A2.A2.2A.
2A9.A.B$32.A4.2A53.A.A3.A.A2.B8.BABAB$28.4A.2A2.A2.A52.A.4A2.AB2A6.B
2AB2A$28.A2.A.B.A.A.2A54.A3.A.A.2A4.3BA4B$30.BABABA.A56.A2.BA.A2.7B2A
B2AB$31.B2ABA.A51.A3.A.2BA.A5.3B2AB6AB$32.2B.BA50.3A3.2A.2BA5.3BA4B6A
B$31.3B52.A10.3B4.3BAB2A2BA3B2A$22.2A6.4B52.2A10.2B.B.5B4A4B3AB$23.A
6.2BA3B46.2A4B3.19BABABA2B2AB$23.A.AB3.B2A3B46.2A2B4.6B2A12B2A3B2A4B$
24.2AB.10B7.A35.7B2.7B2A16B2A5B$26.12BA6.3A6.2A26.7B.6BA20B3.B2A$26.
13BA8.A6.A11.B.7B5.7BA3BA23B4.A2.A$26.11B3AB6.A.A5.A.AB4.6B4ABAB3.B.
5B2A2BA9B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$28.8B2.4B5.A.2B5.2AB.B2A3BABA3B2AB2A9BA3BA
6B14.6B7.A$28.6B5.4B5.2ABA6.3B2A2BABA18BA3BA4B14.9B6.2A$27.9B4.4B6.2B
AB4.9BA5B2A12B2A3B2A15.2A4.4B$26.4B4.2A5.4B5.BA4B2.BA4B3A22B4A2B15.A
5.4B$25.4B5.A7.4B4.7B2.A3B2A3BA2B4A12B.2BA4B12.3A7.4B$24.4B7.3A5.4B2.
3B5A.2B2.2B3.B2A3BA4B2.6B4.3B.B2A10.A10.4B$23.4B10.A6.7B3A4B2A8.10B3.
4B9.BA.A21.3BA$22.4B19.14BAB10.6B5.5B10.A22.B2AB$21.4B20.5BA3BA4BA2B
11.3B9.2A10.2A22.ABAB$20.4B21.5B2A2B2AB2A4B12.B9.A36.4B$19.A3B22.10BA
8B11.2A9.3A34.4B$18.B2AB21.2AB.5BAB2A3B2.4B11.A11.A35.4B$17.BABA21.A.
AB2.6B2A3B3.4B7.3A49.4B$16.4B22.A5.5B3A2B5.4B6.A52.4B$3.2A10.4B22.2A
5.10B6.4B59.4B$4.A9.4B29.11B7.4B59.4B$2.A10.4B31.10B8.4B59.4B$2.5A5.
4B5.2A25.8B.B2A.A5.4B59.4B$7.A4.4B5.A25.7B3.B2AB3A4.4B59.4B$4.3AB2.7B
.BA.A25.6B6.B4.A4.4B59.4B10.2A$3.A.2B3.7B.B2A27.6B4.2A.3A6.4B59.4B9.A
$3.4A12B29.5B4.A2.2A9.4B59.4B10.A$.2A2.BA3B2A7B28.8B.A.A13.4B52.2A5.
4B5.5A$A2.3AB.2B2A7B19.A8.8BA.A.2A.A10.4B52.A5.4B4.A$2A.A.B3.10B19.3A
6.2B2A2B.2BAB.A.2A11.4B51.A.AB.7B2.B3A$3.A8.8B21.A4.2BABA2B2.2B2.A15.
4B51.2AB.2B2A3B3.2B.A$3.2A7.9B19.2A4.4BA2B3.B.2A16.BABA52.3B3A6B4A$
13.3B2.4B18.4B.8B2.A.A2.2A15.B2AB51.4BA2B2A3BAB2.2A$11.5B3.4B19.3B2A
6B2.2A2.A2.A15.A3B50.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$11.2A7.2B2A17.3B2A2BA4B7.2A17.4B
49.10B3.B.A.2A$12.A8.BABA16.2BA4BA4B27.4B47.8B8.A$9.3A10.A3B15.2B4ABA
3B29.4B45.9B7.2A$9.A13.4B13.4BA2B2A33.4B43.4B2.3B$24.4B9.2B.5B3A2B33.
4B41.4B3.5B$25.4B7.10BA5B.B4.3B23.4B39.4B7.2A$26.4B3.28B24.4B37.4B8.A
$27.33B2A24.4B35.4B10.3A$28.32B2A25.4B33.4B13.A$29.30B.B27.4B31.4B$
30.29B30.4B29.4B$32.25B33.4B27.4B$33.17B5.B35.4B25.4B$33.14B45.4B23.
4B$33.14B46.4B21.4B$37.3B4.2B48.4B19.4B$38.B6.2B48.3BA10.A6.2A2B$44.B
2AB48.3BA7.3A5.2B2A$45.2A50.3AB5.A7.2BAB$98.4B4.2A5.4B$99.9B4.4B$100.
6B5.4B$100.8B2.4B$98.15B$98.14B$98.13B$96.2AB.10B$95.A.AB3.B2A3B$95.A
6.B2A3B$94.2A6.4B$103.3B$104.2B.BA$103.B2ABA.A$102.BABABA.A$100.A2.A.
A.A.A.2A$100.4A.2A2.A2.A$104.A4.2A$102.A.A$102.2A!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 16th, 2020, 3:35 pm
by MathAndCode
nokangaroo wrote: November 16th, 2020, 1:38 pmThanks for the 2glider bouncer spark. This collision works with bumpers too, in various ways:
Is there a sparker that supports the Snark? I was able to hook up a block factory, but I suspect that there is a better oscillator.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 16th, 2020, 10:08 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
Double reflection mechanism:
Code: Select all
x = 30, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o11bo$14b2o10bo$13b2o9b3o$23bo$23b2o7$11b2o$10bo2bo6b2o$10bobo
7b2o$11bo2$6b2o17bo$7bo13b2obobo$4b3o13bobobobo$4bo12bo2bobobobob2o$
17b4ob2o2bo2bo$21bo4b2o$19bobo$19b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 16th, 2020, 10:15 pm
by wwei23
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: November 16th, 2020, 10:08 pm
Double reflection mechanism:
Code: Select all
x = 30, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o11bo$14b2o10bo$13b2o9b3o$23bo$23b2o7$11b2o$10bo2bo6b2o$10bobo
7b2o$11bo2$6b2o17bo$7bo13b2obobo$4b3o13bobobobo$4bo12bo2bobobobob2o$
17b4ob2o2bo2bo$21bo4b2o$19bobo$19b2o!
If you expected me not to goof of at that, well, you were wrong.
Code: Select all
x = 146, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o4$14bobo$15b2o$15bo3$29bo$30b2o$29b2o4$43bobo$44b2o$44bo3$58bo
$59b2o$58b2o4$72bobo$73b2o$73bo3$87bo$88b2o$87b2o4$101bobo$102b2o$102b
o3$116bo$117b2o$116b2o11bo$130b2o10bo$129b2o9b3o$47b2o90bo$46bo2bo7b2o
80b2o$46bobo7bo2bo7b2o$47bo8bobo7bo2bo7b2o$57bo8bobo7bo2bo7b2o$42b2o
23bo8bobo7bo2bo7b2o$43bo8b2o23bo8bobo7bo2bo7b2o$40b3o10bo8b2o23bo8bobo
7bo2bo7b2o$40bo9b3o10bo8b2o23bo8bobo7bo2bo7b2o$50bo9b3o10bo8b2o23bo8bo
bo7bo2bo6b2o$60bo9b3o10bo8b2o23bo8bobo7b2o$70bo9b3o10bo8b2o23bo$80bo9b
3o10bo8b2o$90bo9b3o10bo8b2o17bo$100bo9b3o10bo13b2obobo$110bo9b3o13bobo
bobo$120bo12bo2bobobobob2o$133b4ob2o2bo2bo$137bo4b2o$135bobo$135b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 17th, 2020, 7:25 pm
by MathAndCode
Code: Select all
x = 29, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$8bobo$2b2o4bo16bo$o2bo2b2ob4o10b3o$2obobobobo2bo2bo6bo$3bobobobo6b2o4b2o$3bobob2o6b2o$4bo3$8b2o$8b2o2$19b2o$19b2o3$24bo$12b2o6b2obobo$5b2o4b2o6bobobobo$6bo6bo2bo2bobobobob2o$3b3o10b4ob2o2bo2bo$3bo16bo4b2o$18bobo$18b2o!
Unfortunately, there is not enough room for the gliders to enter.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 18th, 2020, 1:27 pm
by nokangaroo
Syringe as switch
A gap in the right glider stream will switch it off, and a gap in the left stream (or a suitable additional glider in the right stream, or anything else that deletes the beehive) will switch it back on.
Code: Select all
x = 244, y = 206, rule = LifeHistory
41.A11.2A$40.A.A9.B2AB$32.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$31.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$17.2A
12.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$18.A13.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$18.A.AB12.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$19.
2AB.B9.A2.BA.A2.13B$21.4B7.A.2BA.A5.13B$21.4B7.2A.2BA5.15B$5.2A14.5B
10.3B4.7B3A5B$3.2B2AB12.6B11.2B.B.8BA2BA5B$3.4B13.8B2.3B2A15BA3BA4B$
2.4B13.13B4A18BA5B$3.4B13.11B3ABA14BA3BA6B$.7B13.7B.3B3ABA13BA2BA2B3.
B2A$.7B12.13B3A14B3A2B4.A2.A$2A7B11.14B2A3B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$2A9B8.
17B14.6B7.A$.B.11B2.2B.15B14.9B6.2A$4.5BA23B15.2A4.4B$4.4BAB2A12B.8B
16.A4.4B$4.3B2ABA9B2A2B3.8B11.3A5.5B$4.4BA11B2A2B5.B3.2A11.A6.9B$5.
18B10.A19.9B$12.4B.3B.B12.3A16.9B$13.4B19.A15.10B$14.4B33.12B$15.4B
22.2A8.13B$16.4B22.A9.11B$17.4B21.A.AB4.12B$18.4B10.A10.2AB.15B$19.4B
7.3A12.17B$20.3BA5.A15.17B$21.ABAB4.2A15.4B2A3B2A6B.B$14.2A6.2A7B14.
5BAB4AB2A5B2A$15.A7.6B14.8B2A4B2A3B.B2A$15.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.12BA4B2AB
4.B$16.A2.A4.29BA2BA3B$17.2AB3.27B.3B3A3B$18.32B2.7B$19.14BA16B2.7B$
20.13BA15B4.6B$20.9B2ABABA2B.B.2B10.7B$21.8BA6B4.3B10.6B$21.9BA5B5.3A
.2A6.7B$22.13B5.A.3A.A7.5B$24.13B2.A.AB2.A8.6B$23.8B4.2A.A.A3.A7.9B$
23.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A5.2A.7B$23.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A5.A5.4B$23.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.
A.A2.3A7.4B$24.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A3.A10.4B$23.B2AB9.A.A23.4B$24.2A11.A25.
4B$64.4B$65.4B$66.2BAB$67.2B2A$68.2A2B$69.4B$70.4B$71.4B$72.4B$73.4B$
74.4B$75.4B$76.4B$77.4B$78.4B$79.4B$80.4B$81.4B$82.4B$83.4B$84.4B$85.
4B$86.4B$87.4B$88.4B$89.4B$90.4B$91.4B$92.4B$93.4B$94.4B$95.4B$96.4B$
97.4B$98.4B$99.4B$100.4B$101.4B$102.4B$103.2BAB$104.2B2A$105.2A2B$
106.4B$107.4B40.2A$108.4B38.B2AB$109.4B38.3B$110.4B38.B$111.4B35.5B$
112.4B34.B3D2B$113.4B33.2BD3B$114.4B32.2B3DB$115.4B31.6B$116.4B30.6B$
117.4B29.2BA3B$118.4B28.B3AB$119.4B26.BA2B2A$120.4B26.A3BAB$121.4B24.
3BABAB$122.BABA23.6B$123.B2AB22.2AB2AB$124.A3B21.2BA3B$125.4B7.A11.8B
$126.4B6.3A10.8B$127.4B8.A8.6B2AB$128.4B6.A.A7.B2ABAB2AB$129.4B5.A.AB
6.2BABA5B$130.4B5.A3B5.3BA3BA2B$131.4B6.4B3.5BABA3B$132.4B5.6B.2BA3BA
4B$133.4B4.9BABD7BA.2A$134.4B2.8B.BA3D4B2.2A.A$135.15BD2B2D2B$136.21B
$136.31B$136.5B3C20B2DB$136.5BCBC9B2.8B2DB2D$134.2AB.3BCBC9B4.2B2C3B
4D$133.A.AB2.11B7.B2C5B2DB$133.A5.10B10.BC2B$132.2A5.10B11.4B$138.11B
12.4B$139.10B13.4B$139.8B.B2A.A10.4B$138.7B3.B2AB3A9.4B$138.6B6.B4.A
9.4B$139.6B4.2A.3A11.4B$139.3BAB4.A2.2A14.4B$138.B5A4.2A18.4B$138.A5B
25.4B$138.6B26.4B$138.BA3BA27.4B$138.2B3AB28.4B$138.6B29.4B$139.5B30.
4B$141.B33.4B$140.3B33.4B$139.B2AB34.4B25.A11.2A$140.2A36.4B23.A.A9.A
2BA$179.4B10.A3.A3.2A2.A.A9.A2B$180.4B7.3A2.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.A$181.4B
5.A5.A.A3.A.A2.B8.A3BA$182.7B.2A5.A.4A2.AB2A6.B2A3B$183.9B7.A3.A.A.2A
4.5B3A$184.6B8.A2.BA.A2.5B3A5B$185.5B7.A.2BA.A5.3B3A7B$184.7B6.2A.2BA
5.3BA11B$185.6B10.3B4.3B2A3B2A5B$185.7B10.2B.B.9B2A6B$185.6B4.21BA7B$
185.7B2.21BA3BA5B$185.7B2.5B3A17BA6B$184.9B.7BA19B3.B2A$184.9B4A3BA
19B4.A2.A$179.B4.8B2A10B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$178.2AB.9B2ABA2BA3B14.6B7.A
$178.2A12BABAB2AB14.9B6.2A$179.B.12B2ABAB15.2A4.4B$182.12B2A3B15.A5.
4B$182.17B12.3A7.4B$182.15B.B2A10.A10.B3A$182.12B4.BA.A21.A3B$181.11B
9.A22.A3B$180.2A11B8.2A22.4B$181.12B33.4B$182.10B15.A19.4B$182.9B16.
3A12.B.3B.4B$182.3B2A4B19.A10.2B2A3BA10B$182.9B6.A11.2A3.B5.3B3ABAB2A
9B$185.5B5.3A11.8B3.3B3A4BA9B$186.4B4.A16.8B.6BA3BA9B$186.4B4.2A15.
16B3A10B$179.2A6.9B14.15B.BA2.11B.B$180.A7.6B14.17B8.9B2A$180.A.2A5.
6B3.B2.2B2.19B11.7B2A$181.A2.A4.11B2A3BA18B12.7B$182.2AB3.5BA4B3A4B2A
8B.7B13.7B$183.11B2ABA8B2A16B13.4B$184.9B2A2BABA2B5A18B13.4B$185.13BA
3B3A9B2.5BA2B13.4B$185.17B.B.2B11.2BABAB12.B2A2B$186.15B4.3B10.BA2BA
14.2A$186.15B5.A2B.2A7.BA2B$187.13B5.A.A2B.A7.4B$189.13B2.A.AB2.A9.B.
B2A$188.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.BA.A$188.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A13.A$188.5B8.B2.A.A3.A
.A12.2A$188.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A$189.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A$188.B2AB9.A.A$189.
2A11.A!
Of course there cannot be consecutive gaps, or gaps in the left stream first.
We don't actually need the syringe, we just need the pi:
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x = 51, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory
22.2A$21.B2AB$22.3B$23.B$21.5B$21.B3D2B$21.2BD3B$21.2B3DB$21.6B$21.6B
$21.6B$21.5B$20.6B$21.6B$20.7B$20.6B$20.6B$20.6B$7.A11.8B$7.3A10.8B$
10.A8.9B$9.A.A7.9B$9.A.AB6.10B$10.A3B5.5B2A3B$12.4B3.5B2A4B$12.6B.11B
$12.11BD7BA.2A$11.8B.2B3D4B2.2A.A$8.B.11BD2B2D2B$7.21B$7.22B$2.2A2.6B
3C15B$2.A2.A6BCBC9B2.5B$4.2A.5BCBC9B4.2B2C$9.12B8.2C2B$10.10B10.BC2B$
9.11B11.4B$8.12B12.4B$8.12B13.4B$9.11B6.2A6.4B$2A6.12B6.A8.4B$A5.13B
4.BA.A9.4B$.3A.2A11B.3B.B2A11.4B$3.AB2A17B14.4B$5.19B15.4B$4.19B17.4B
$4.20B17.4B$6.20B16.4B$7.17B2A2B15.4B$4.B.17B2AC2B16.4B$3.2A13B.3BACA
DA2B16.4B$3.2A12B2.2B2ACDC2B18.B3A$4.B.11B2.3BAC2A3B18.A3D$8.9B3.3B2A
5B18.C2B$9.B.6B10.4B18.DB$11.5B12.3B19.B$12.4B13.4B$10.5B16.2A$10.2A
19.A$11.A20.3A$8.3A23.A$8.A!
A more realistic version with p96:
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x = 68, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
34.2A$33.B2AB$34.3B$35.B$33.5B$33.6B$33.2B2A2B$33.BA4B$33.2B3AB$33.3B
A2B$33.6B$33.5B$32.6B$33.6B$32.7B$32.6B$32.6B$32.6B$19.A11.8B$19.3A
10.8B$22.A8.9B$21.A.A7.9B$21.A.AB6.10B$22.A3B5.5B2A3B$24.4B3.5B2A4B$
24.6B.11B$24.19BA.2A$23.8B2.8B2.2A.A$20.B.18B$19.21B$19.6BA15B$14.2A
2.6BABA9B2.4B$14.A2.A5B2AB2A7B4.4B$16.2A.14B7.B3A$21.12B8.A3B$23.9B
10.A3B$22.3BA6B11.4B$11.A10.2BA7B12.4B$11.3A8.2B4A4B13.4B$14.A7.4BA5B
14.4B$13.2A6.11B15.4B$13.5B2.6BA6B15.4B$15.10BA7B.2B13.4B$14.2A9BA9B
2A13.4B$14.2A17B.B2A14.4B$15.B.17B.B16.4B$17.16B20.4B$18.14B22.4B$19.
8B2.4B22.4B$20.7B3.4B22.4B$17.11B3.4B22.4B$16.12B4.4B22.4B$16.12B5.3B
A22.4B$16.11B7.3BA22.4B$16.B3C4B.4B6.3A23.4B$16.2BC4B4.2A33.4B$16.2B
3C2B4.A35.4B$16.6B6.3A33.B3C$15.7B8.A34.C2B$14.4B.B46.C$13.4B$12.4B$
11.4B$10.4B$9.4B$8.4B$7.4B$6.4B$5.4B$4.4B$3.4B$2.4B$.4B$ABAB$2AB$.A!
The H-to-pi can be flipped (p107).
And you can of course make the pi from 2 gliders, with a repeat time of 78.
Incidentally, here's another way of sparking a bumper (the spark is actually among the examples I posted):
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x = 106, y = 51, rule = LifeHistory
34.2B68.2B$33.3B67.3B$32.4B66.4B$31.4B66.4B$15.2A13.CBCB51.2A13.CBCB$
16.A12.B2CB53.A12.B2CB$16.A.AB2.B5.3BC42.A11.A.AB2.B5.3BC$17.2AB.3B3.
4B43.3A10.2AB.3B3.4B$8.A10.6B.4B47.A11.6B.4B$8.3A8.10B47.A.A10.10B$
11.A7.2B2A5B48.A.AB9.2B2A5B$10.A.A7.A2BA3B50.A3B9.A2BA3B$10.A.AB6.BAB
A4B51.4B7.BABA4B$11.A3B6.BA6B50.6B6.BA6B$13.6B3.2B2.4B49.7B.2B3.2B2.
4B$13.6B3.2B3.4B47.8B.7B3.4B$13.7B.3B4.4B43.B.16B5.4B$12.8B.5B3.4B41.
19B6.4B$9.B.16B3.4B40.6BA12B7.4B$8.19B4.4B34.2A2.6BABA9B.B2A6.4B$8.6B
A12B5.3B34.A2.A5B2AB2A7B2.BA.A6.3B$3.2A2.6BABA9B.B2A4.2B36.2A.15B6.A
7.2B$3.A2.A5B2AB2A7B2.BA.A4.B41.12B7.2A7.B$5.2A.15B6.A48.9B$10.12B7.
2A46.3BA6B$12.9B45.A10.2BA7B$11.3BA6B45.3A8.2B4A4B$A10.2BA7B48.A7.4BA
5B$3A8.2B4A4B47.2A6.11B$3.A7.4BA5B47.5B2.6BA6B$2.2A6.11B49.10BA7B.2B$
2.5B2.6BA6B47.2A9BA9B2A$4.10BA7B.2B44.2A17B.B2A$3.2A9BA9B2A44.B.17B.B
$3.2A17B.B2A46.16B$4.B.17B.B48.14B$6.16B52.8B2.4B$7.14B54.7B3.4B$8.8B
2.4B50.11B3.4B$9.7B3.4B48.12B4.3B$6.11B3.4B47.12B5.2B$5.12B4.3B47.11B
7.B$5.12B5.2B47.B3C4B.4B$5.11B7.B47.2BC4B4.2A$5.B3C4B.4B53.2B3C2B4.A$
5.2BC4B4.2A53.6B6.3A$5.2B3C2B4.A53.7B8.A$5.6B6.3A49.4B.B$4.7B8.A48.4B
$3.4B.B$2.4B!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 18th, 2020, 2:48 pm
by nokangaroo
MathAndCode wrote: November 16th, 2020, 3:35 pm
nokangaroo wrote: November 16th, 2020, 1:38 pmThanks for the 2glider bouncer spark. This collision works with bumpers too, in various ways:
Is there a sparker that supports the Snark? I was able to hook up a block factory, but I suspect that there is a better oscillator.
I don't know if this is of any use:
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x = 29, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
10.B2D$10.D2C2B$9.B3C2B$10.2CBC2B$9.2B3CB12.2A$10.2BC3B10.ABA$9.6B10.
3BA$10.6B8.4B$9.6B8.4B$10.6B6.4B$10.6BC4.4B$10.4B2CB3.4B$10.5B2C2.4B$
9.7B2.4B$6.9B2.4B$6.8B2.4B$4.15B$4.14B$4.13B$2.2AB.10B$.A.AB3.B2D3B$.
A6.B2D3B$2A6.4B$9.3B$10.2B.BA$9.B2ABA.A$8.BABABA.A$6.A2.A.A.A.2A$6.4A
.2A2.A$10.A4.A.A$8.A.A5.2A$8.2A!
Also, a Herschel can turn a glider from the inside:
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x = 29, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
B13.7B7.B$2B12.6B7.2B$3B12.6B5.3B$4B11.BAB2A5.4B$.2BAB9.B5A4.4B$2.2B
2A8.B4AB3.4B$3.2A2B5.8B2.4B$4.4B4.4B3A6B$5.4B2.5B3A5B$6.11BA5B$7.14B$
8.12B$8.12B$9.B.8B$12.4B!
There are several glider-turning reactions that involve a Herschel and/or 1 or 2 incoming gliders. I never posted them, I don't think they are important.
A quick answer after a few minutes of searching:
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x = 33, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
4$15.2C$12.B.B2C$9.7B$8.9B$6.12B$6.13B$5.13B$5.12B6.2A$6.8B2C2B5.A$7.
7B2CB3.BA.A$9.10B.B2A$8.13B$7.14B$6.15B$5.4B2.8B$4.4B5.4B2C$3.4B4.5B
2C2B$2.4B5.2A4.BC2B$.4B7.A5.4B$4B5.3A7.4B$3B6.A10.4B$2B19.4B$B21.4B!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 18th, 2020, 2:54 pm
by MathAndCode
nokangaroo wrote: November 18th, 2020, 2:48 pmCode: Select all
x = 33, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
4$15.2C$12.B.B2C$9.7B$8.9B$6.12B$6.13B$5.13B$5.12B6.2A$6.8B2C2B5.A$7.
7B2CB3.BA.A$9.10B.B2A$8.13B$7.14B$6.15B$5.4B2.8B$4.4B5.4B2C$3.4B4.5B
2C2B$2.4B5.2A4.BC2B$.4B7.A5.4B$4B5.3A7.4B$3B6.A10.4B$2B19.4B$B21.4B!
I supported that with a block factory, but can a spark replace the block?
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 19th, 2020, 7:12 am
by nokangaroo
MathAndCode wrote: November 18th, 2020, 2:54 pm
I supported that with a block factory, but can a spark replace the block?
This is what I have so far, shoot it with gliders:
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x = 68, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
18.A$16.3A$15.A$10.B4.2A$9.8B$2A5.8B$A6.9B$.3A.12B$3.A14B$4.15B$5.15B
$4.11BC5B$3.10BCBC6B$2.2AB2AB.4B3C2B.4B$2.A3.A2.4BC5B.4B$3.3A4.10B.4B
$17.4B.4B$3.3A12.4B.4B$2.A3.A12.4B.4B$2.2A.2A13.4B.4B$21.4B.4B$22.4B.
4B$23.4B.4B$24.4B.4B$25.4B.4B$26.4B.4B$27.4B.4B$28.4B.4B$29.4B.4B$30.
4B.4B$31.4B.4B$32.4B.4B$33.4B.4B$34.9B$35.8B$36.8B$35.9B$35.9B$34.9B$
34.11B$35.11B5.2A$36.2B.3B2C2B5.A$39.3B2CB3.BA.A$37.10B.B2A$36.13B$
35.14B$34.15B$33.4B2.8B$32.4B5.6B$31.4B4.9B$30.4B5.2A4.4B$29.4B7.A5.
4B$28.4B5.3A7.4B$27.4B6.A10.4B$26.4B19.4B$25.4B21.4B$25.3B23.4B$25.2B
25.4B$25.B27.4B$54.4B$55.4B$56.4B$57.4B$58.4B$59.4B$60.4B$61.4B$62.4B
$63.4B$64.2B2C$65.2CB$66.BC!
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x = 45, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory
43.2A$42.ABA$41.3BA$40.4B$39.4B$38.4B$37.4B$36.4B$35.4B$34.4B$32.C4B$
31.C4B$30.B3CB$29.5B$28.5B$27.5B$26.5B$25.5B$24.5B7.CBC$23.5B7.B2CB$
22.5B7.3BC$21.5B7.4B$20.5B7.4B$19.5B7.4B$18.5B7.4B$14.2B.5B7.4B$13.8B
7.4B$14.6B7.4B$14.6B6.4B$9.2B3.6B5.4B$8.11B5.4B$8.11B.B2.4B$7.19B$8.
17B$6.16B.B$5.16B$5.16B4.2A$5.11B2C2B5.A$5.11B2CB3.BA.A$5.16B.B2A$5.
18B$7.B.14B$8.15B$7.4B2.8B$6.4B5.3B3C$5.4B4.5BC2B$4.4B5.2A4.C$3.4B7.A
$2.4B5.3A$.4B6.A$4B$3B$2B$B!
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x = 39, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
34.CB$33.BCBC$32.2B2C$31.4B$30.4B$29.4B$28.4B4.CB$27.4B4.BCBC$26.4B4.
2B2C$25.4B4.4B$24.4B4.4B$23.4B4.4B$22.4B4.4B$7.3B10.5B4.4B$4.2B.6B4.
7B4.4B$2.12B2.8B3.4B$.14B.9B.4B$.23B.4B$.22B.4B$2.25B$3.23B$3.20B.B$
4.18B$4.18B4.2A$3.14B2C2B5.A$4.13B2CB3.BA.A$2.20B.B2A$2.2A2.18B$3.A4.
B.14B$3A6.10BC4B$A7.4B2.4B2C2B$7.4B5.2BCBCB$6.4B4.5B$5.4B5.2A$4.4B7.A
$3.4B5.3A$2.4B6.A!
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x = 34, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
26.C$25.C2B$24.B3C$23.4B$22.4B$21.4B7.C$20.4B7.C2B$19.4B7.B3C$18.4B7.
4B$17.4B7.4B$16.4B7.4B$15.4B7.4B$14.4B7.4B$A12.4B7.4B$3A9.4B7.4B$3.A
9.2B7.4B$2.2A8.B.B6.4B$2.4B3.B.5B.B2.4B$4.19B$2.20B$2.17B.B$2.16B$3.
15B4.2A$4.9B2C2B5.A$5.8B2CB3.BA.A$8.10B.B2A$7.13B$6.14B$5.9B2C4B$4.4B
2.3B2C3B$3.4B5.3BC2B$2.4B4.5B$.4B5.2A$4B7.A$3B5.3A$2B6.A$B!
The last one almost has a decent repeat time (50). If you have a better way of cleaning up the messy reactions, let me know. There are probably several more dirty solutions like these. I'm not sure there is a clean solution, since the Snark eater is complex, and was found using a search program. The block factory is probably your best bet.
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x = 53, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
7$32.CB$31.BCBC$30.2B2C$29.4B$28.4B$27.4B$26.4B$25.4B$14.2A8.4B$13.B
2AB6.4B$12.4B6.4B$13.2B6.4B$13.3B4.4B$5.2A5.5B2.4B$6.A4.6B.4B$6.A.AB.
10B$7.2AB.9B$9.12B$9.12B$4.2A3.12B$5.A3.6B2A2B.B2A$5.A.A7BABA2.BA.A$
6.2A.7BAB5.A$11.6B6.2A$11.B2C2B$9.B.B2CB$6.7B$5.9B$3.12B$3.13B$2.13B$
2.12B6.2A$3.8B2C2B5.A$4.7B2CB3.BA.A$6.10B.B2A$5.13B$4.14B$3.15B$2.4B
2.8B$.4B5.4B2C$4B4.5B2C2B$3B5.2A4.BC2B$2B7.A5.4B$B5.3A7.4B$6.A10.4B$
18.4B$19.4B!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 19th, 2020, 9:32 pm
by apg
Jormungant wrote: October 20th, 2020, 12:30 pm
addendum (p82 stabilisation)
It's possible to stabilise each end of the wick with a single p41 glider stream:
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x = 481, y = 130, rule = LifeHistory
73.2A51.2A11.A201.A11.2A51.2A$17.2A11.A42.A.A49.B2AB9.A.A199.A.A9.B2A
B49.A.A42.A11.2A$16.B2AB9.A.A42.AB50.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A183.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B
50.BA42.A.A9.B2AB$17.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A33.2B6.B43.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A6.2A
165.2A6.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B43.B6.2B33.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$16.B.B9.2A.2A2.A
2.A.A30.5B4.3B42.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A4.2B2AB163.B2A2B4.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B42.
3B4.5B30.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$16.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A12.2A14.8B2.4B42.6B6.2A
BA2.4A.A5.4B165.4B5.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B42.4B2.8B14.2A12.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$
16.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A13.A15.15B41.8B4.2A.A.A3.A7.6B161.6B7.A3.A.A.2A4.8B
41.15B15.A13.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$16.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.BA.A15.10B3A2B42.13B2.
A.AB2.A7.5B161.5B7.A2.BA.A2.13B42.2B3A10B15.A.AB12.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$17.
13B2.A.AB2.A9.B.B2A18.8BABA4B38.13B5.A.A2B.A6.6B159.6B6.A.2BA.A5.13B
38.4BABA8B18.2AB.B9.A2.BA.A2.13B$15.13B5.A.A2B.A7.4B19.9BA2BA2B2A36.
15B5.A2B.2A6.7B157.7B6.2A.2BA5.15B36.2A2BA2BA9B19.4B7.A.2BA.A5.13B$
14.15B5.A2B.2A7.4B18.12B2A2B2A36.15B4.3B10.5BA159.A5B10.3B4.15B36.2A
2B2A12B18.4B7.2A.2BA5.15B$14.15B4.3B10.5B8.2A8.17B36.9B4ABA2B.B.2B10.
7B159.7B10.2B.B.2BAB4A9B36.17B8.2A8.5B10.3B4.15B$13.7B2A8B.B.2B11.6B
8.A9.9B.6B36.10BA18B4.6B159.6B4.18BA10B36.6B.9B9.A8.6B11.2B.B.8B2A7B$
13.5B2ABA15BA4B2.8B8.A.AB4.5B2A4B.3B38.11BA4B2A13B2.7B159.7B2.13B2A4B
A11B38.3B.4B2A5B4.BA.A8.8B2.4BA15BAB2A5B$12.6B2A16B6A11B8.2AB.14B41.
12BA5BA13B2.2B2A3B159.3B2A2B2.13BA5BA12B41.14B.B2A8.11B6A16B2A6B$11.
7B2ABA13BA2B2AB2A9B11.17B39.2AB3.13BA13B.3B2A4B157.4B2A3B.13BA13B3.B
2A39.17B11.9B2AB2A2BA13BAB2A7B$10.2AB3.4B2A12B2ABA3B2A.7B12.8B2A7B38.
A2.A4.8BA2BA24B157.24BA2BA8B4.A2.A38.7B2A8B12.7B.2A3BAB2A12B2A4B3.B2A
$9.A2.A4.18BAB4A11B12.6BA10B36.A.2A5.6B3.A2.2B2.20B4.B147.B4.20B2.2B
2.A3.6B5.2A.A36.10BA6B12.11B4ABA18B4.A2.A$8.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.5B2A12B
11.8B2A7B.B35.A7.3A3B14.10B2A7B.B2A145.2AB.7B2A10B14.3B3A7.A35.B.7B2A
8B11.12B2A5B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$8.A7.6B14.17B8.3B3A15BA33.2A6.3BA5B14.
8B2A2B2A5B2A145.2A5B2A2B2A8B14.5BA3B6.2A33.A15B3A3B8.17B14.6B7.A$7.2A
6.9B14.15B.2B2.3B2ABABA11B2.BA.A39.3BA4.2A15.7B2A2B3A3B.B147.B.3B3A2B
2A7B15.2A4.A3B39.A.AB2.11BABAB2A3B2.2B.15B14.9B6.2A$14.4B4.2A15.22BA
2BABA10B4.BA39.4B5.A15.15BAB153.BA15B15.A5.4B39.AB4.10BABA2BA22B15.2A
4.4B$13.4B5.A16.8B.11B3A6B.9B43.4B7.3A12.7B3A6BA153.A6B3A7B12.3A7.4B
43.9B.6B3A11B.8B16.A5.4B$12.4B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A7B2A7B.8B43.4B10.A10.2AB
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2A.2BA5.6BA3BA4B173.4BA3BA6B5.A2B.2A7.4B18.11B2AB40.9BA5B4.3B10.2A2BA
B$6.3B3AB6.2A.2BA5.15B40.12B.B2A16.4B7.A.2BA.A5.5BA2BA4B175.4BA2BA5B
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A9.3B179.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A31.4B4.2A44.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A6.2A$19.A3.2A2.A
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A11.2A43.A10.2A2B281.2B2A10.A43.2A11.A$97.4B279.4B$98.4B277.4B$99.4B
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265.A3B$105.3BA263.A3B$106.3AB261.B3A$107.4B259.4B$108.4B257.4B$109.
4B255.4B$110.4B253.4B$111.4B251.4B$112.4B249.4B$113.4B247.4B$114.4B
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119.4B235.4B$120.4B233.4B$121.4B231.4B$122.4B229.4B$123.4B227.4B$124.
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4B$129.4B215.4B$130.4B213.4B$131.4B211.4B$132.4B209.4B$133.4B207.4B$
134.4B205.4B$135.2BAB203.BA2B$136.2B2A201.2A2B$137.2A2B199.2B2A$138.
4B197.4B$139.4B195.4B$140.4B193.4B$141.4B191.4B$142.4B189.4B$143.4B
187.4B$144.4B27.A31.A32.A32.A31.A27.4B$145.3BA21.2B.2BA2B.2B21.2B.2BA
2B.2B10.BA10.BA.2BA2B.AB10.AB10.2B.2BA2B.2B21.2B.2BA2B.2B21.A3B$146.
3BA5.2A13.5BA5B21.5BA5B9.BABA9.11A9.ABAB9.5BA5B21.5BA5B13.2A5.A3B$
147.3AB5.A6.AB4.13B4.B9.B4.13B4.B3.BABA3.B4.AB3A3B3ABA4.B3.ABAB3.B4.
13B4.B9.B4.13B4.BA6.A5.B3A$148.4B4.A.AB.BA3BA.15B.4B7.4B.15B.4B.3BA2B
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A5BA.B2A4.4B$150.4B5.2BA13B.15B.15B.23BAB2A2BA2B.2BA2B2ABA23B.15B.15B
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B2A7BA10B3AB.B3A11B.11B3AB.B3A3BA4BA3B4.4B$152.4B2.6BA5B4AB.B4A10B.
10B4AB.B4A6BA2BA8B2ABA2BA2B.2BA2BAB2A8BA2BA6B4AB.B4A10B.10B4AB.B4A5BA
6B2.4B$153.4B.6B3A3BABA2B.2BABA10B.10BABA2B.2BABA7BABA9B3A3BAB.BA3B3A
9BABA7BABA2B.2BABA10B.10BABA2B.2BABA3B3A6B.4B$154.5B163.5B$155.9B3A3B
ABA2B.2BABA10B.10BABA2B.2BABA7BABA9B3A3BAB.BA3B3A9BABA7BABA2B.2BABA
10B.10BABA2B.2BABA3B3A9B$155.3B.5BA5B4AB.B4A10B.10B4AB.B4A6BA2BA8B2AB
A2BA2B.2BA2BAB2A8BA2BA6B4AB.B4A10B.10B4AB.B4A5BA5B.3B$159.3BA4BA3B3AB
.B3A11B.11B3AB.B3A10BA7B2ABA4BAB.BA4BAB2A7BA10B3AB.B3A11B.11B3AB.B3A
3BA4BA3B$159.2BA13B.15B.15B.23BAB2A2BA2B.2BA2B2ABA23B.15B.15B.13BA2B$
157.2AB.A5BA7B.13B5.13B.13B.4B.5B2ABA2B2A.2A2BAB2A5B.4B.13B.13B5.13B.
7BA5BA.B2A$156.A.AB.BA3BA.15B.4B7.4B.15B.4B.3BA2B.4B.BA2BABABABA2BAB.
4B.2BA3B.4B.15B.4B7.4B.15B.A3BAB.BA.A$156.A6.AB4.13B4.B9.B4.13B4.B3.B
ABA3.B4.AB3A3B3ABA4.B3.ABAB3.B4.13B4.B9.B4.13B4.BA6.A$155.2A13.5BA5B
21.5BA5B9.BABA9.11A9.ABAB9.5BA5B21.5BA5B13.2A$170.2B.2BA2B.2B21.2B.2B
A2B.2B10.BA10.BA.2BA2B.AB10.AB10.2B.2BA2B.2B21.2B.2BA2B.2B$175.A31.A
32.A32.A31.A!
If there's a way to coax gliders out of the p41 wick (e.g. from finding a p46-gun-style head-on interaction between two copies of the wick), then it should be possible to create a closed p41 oscillator (and gun!) by means of the stable 135-degree MWSS-to-G converter (which works at p41).
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 19th, 2020, 10:18 pm
by wwei23
calcyman wrote: November 19th, 2020, 9:32 pm
If there's a way to coax gliders out of the p41 wick (e.g. from finding a p46-gun-style head-on interaction between two copies of the wick), then it should be possible to create a closed p41 oscillator (and gun!) by means of the stable 135-degree MWSS-to-G converter (which works at p41).
How would one line up the gliders to create MWSSes?
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 20th, 2020, 3:44 am
by the lifestroyer
is this a oscillator?
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x = 2, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o!
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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$2b4o$bo4bo$2o4b2o$2o4b2o$bo4bo$2b4o$3b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 20th, 2020, 4:21 am
by Scorbie
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 20th, 2020, 4:47 am
by Macbi
Technically the first one is only a predecessor to an oscillator.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 20th, 2020, 4:52 am
by the lifestroyer
Macbi wrote: November 20th, 2020, 4:47 am
Technically the first one is only a predecessor to an oscillator.
Well is it known?
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 20th, 2020, 4:55 am
by Macbi
the lifestroyer wrote: November 20th, 2020, 4:52 amMacbi wrote: November 20th, 2020, 4:47 amTechnically the first one is only a predecessor to an oscillator.
Well is it known?
Yes,
Pentadecathalon and
Octagon 2.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 20th, 2020, 6:18 am
by apg
wwei23 wrote: November 19th, 2020, 10:18 pm
calcyman wrote: November 19th, 2020, 9:32 pm
If there's a way to coax gliders out of the p41 wick (e.g. from finding a p46-gun-style head-on interaction between two copies of the wick), then it should be possible to create a closed p41 oscillator (and gun!) by means of the stable 135-degree MWSS-to-G converter (which works at p41).
How would one line up the gliders to create MWSSes?
The two different ways to connect these p41 oscillator monomers (without or with beehives) give coprime separations of 32 and 33 cells, respectively. Moreover, the beehive connection allows an adjustable phase to be incorporated. This means that with enough monomers, you can get arbitrary offsets and phases, so there are no annoying restrictions.
In terms of the global structure, I can envisage two long well-separated parallel horizontal wicks, which synthesise four streams of MWSSes (two leftwards; two rightwards) in the space between them, which are then deflected to support the ends.
What remains is to work out exactly how to construct the MWSSes at p41. The standard 3-glider synthesis is too slow, but maybe there's a usable alternative synthesis?
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 20th, 2020, 8:02 am
by wwei23
calcyman wrote: November 20th, 2020, 6:18 am
What remains is to work out exactly how to construct the MWSSes at p41. The standard 3-glider synthesis is too slow, but maybe there's a usable alternative synthesis?
First of all, we should figure out how to get gliders out in the first place!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 20th, 2020, 8:15 am
by Jormungant
well, I guess no other 3-glider synthesis exist, but there is several 4-glider synthesis, but 1 glider is always colliding with the produced mwss at p41; that being said, the following alternative does actually work:
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x = 183, y = 185, rule = B3/S23
4$4bo$5b2o$4b2o8$15bo$16bo$14b3o9$24bobo$25b2o$25bo8$36bo$34bobo$35b2o
8$45bo$46b2o$45b2o8$56bo$57bo$55b3o9$65bobo$66b2o$66bo8$77bo$75bobo$
76b2o7b2o$85b2o6$91bo$89bobo$90b2o2$80b2o$79bobo$81bo8b2o$91b2o$90bo$
94b2o$93b2o$95bo3$70bo$70b2o$69bobo8b2o$79bobo$81bo$104b2o$104bobo$
104bo4$59b3o$61bo8bo$60bo9b2o$69bobo$115bo$114b2o$114bobo4$49b2o$50b2o
$49bo9b3o$61bo$60bo$124b3o$124bo$125bo3$39b2o$38bobo$40bo8b2o$50b2o$
49bo$135b2o$134b2o$136bo3$29bo$29b2o$28bobo8b2o$38bobo$40bo$145b2o$
145bobo$145bo4$18b3o$20bo8bo$19bo9b2o$28bobo$156bo$155b2o$155bobo4$8b
2o$9b2o$8bo9b3o$20bo$19bo$165b3o$165bo$166bo5$8b2o$9b2o$8bo$176b2o$
175b2o$177bo!
I also do not see anything that produces more glider than it consumes... There might be way to get a 3glider to mwss via the following, but these p41 "sparks" are very picky, feel like one would need to consisder all combination of p41 position pair, and insert a miracle glider that fix the wicks and produce something of use, that's a significant search space but still...
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x = 46, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
8$33.A$31.2A$32.2A$15.A$10.2B.2BA2B.2B$10.5BA5B$4.A4.13B4.AB3.3A$3.A
3B.3BA7BA3B.3BA2B.AB$2.BA2B2A3BA3B.3BA3B2A2BA2B2.AB$2A4BA4B2A2B.2B2A
4BA4B2AB$A2B2A10B.10B2A2BAB$2A8BA4B.4BA8B2A2B$2B7ABA4B.4BAB7A4B$32.B$
2B7ABA4B.4BAB7A4B$2A8BA4B.4BA8B2AB$A2B2A10B.10B2A2BAB$2A4BA4B2A2B.2B
2A4BA4B2AB$2.BA2B2A3BA3B.3BA3B2A2BA2B2.2A4.A$3.A3B.3BA7BA3B.3BA2B.A.A
3.2A$4.A4.13B4.AB5.A3.A.A$10.5BA5B$10.2B.2BA2B.2B$15.A!
(and the same trick to prevent the collision would be needed)
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: November 20th, 2020, 10:26 am
by MathAndCode
Jormungant wrote: November 20th, 2020, 8:15 amCode: Select all
x = 183, y = 185, rule = B3/S23
4$4bo$5b2o$4b2o8$15bo$16bo$14b3o9$24bobo$25b2o$25bo8$36bo$34bobo$35b2o
8$45bo$46b2o$45b2o8$56bo$57bo$55b3o9$65bobo$66b2o$66bo8$77bo$75bobo$
76b2o7b2o$85b2o6$91bo$89bobo$90b2o2$80b2o$79bobo$81bo8b2o$91b2o$90bo$
94b2o$93b2o$95bo3$70bo$70b2o$69bobo8b2o$79bobo$81bo$104b2o$104bobo$
104bo4$59b3o$61bo8bo$60bo9b2o$69bobo$115bo$114b2o$114bobo4$49b2o$50b2o
$49bo9b3o$61bo$60bo$124b3o$124bo$125bo3$39b2o$38bobo$40bo8b2o$50b2o$
49bo$135b2o$134b2o$136bo3$29bo$29b2o$28bobo8b2o$38bobo$40bo$145b2o$
145bobo$145bo4$18b3o$20bo8bo$19bo9b2o$28bobo$156bo$155b2o$155bobo4$8b
2o$9b2o$8bo9b3o$20bo$19bo$165b3o$165bo$166bo5$8b2o$9b2o$8bo$176b2o$
175b2o$177bo!
There's another easily constructible logic gate?
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x = 32, y = 58, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o9$10bobo$11b2o$11bo10$30b2o$30b2o10$25b2o$24bobo$26bo19$4b3o$6bo$5bo!