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Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 25th, 2020, 8:34 pm
by Hunting
BokaBB wrote: April 25th, 2020, 4:43 am Please remove this.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
ConwayLife.com is not yours. It's a forum.

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 26th, 2020, 4:22 am
by BokaBB
I know. Pleasw explore this rule a bit.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 26th, 2020, 7:06 am
by FWKnightship
New p36 in D4_+4:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B34c/S234y8
bo4bo2bob10obo2bo4bo$2b4o9b2o9b4o$3b4o3b2ob6ob2o3b4o$bo6b2o3b2o2b2o3b
2o6bo$obob5o2bob6obo2b5obobo$bobo3b3o3b2o2b2o3b3o3bobo$b5ob3o5b2o5b3ob
5o$b6o4bob2o2b2obo4b6o$o3bo4b4o6b4o4bo3bo$b2o3bo2bobobob2obobobo2bo3b
2o$4b4ob5o4b5ob4o$2bo2bo3b2o10b2o3bo2bo$2ob3o6bo2b2o2bo6b3ob2o$bob3ob
6obo2bob6ob3obo$o2bob3o2b12o2b3obo2bo$3bob2obob2ob6ob2obob2obo$3bob2ob
ob2ob6ob2obob2obo$o2bob3o2b12o2b3obo2bo$bob3ob6obo2bob6ob3obo$2ob3o6bo
2b2o2bo6b3ob2o$2bo2bo3b2o10b2o3bo2bo$4b4ob5o4b5ob4o$b2o3bo2bobobob2obo
bobo2bo3b2o$o3bo4b4o6b4o4bo3bo$b6o4bob2o2b2obo4b6o$b5ob3o5b2o5b3ob5o$b
obo3b3o3b2o2b2o3b3o3bobo$obob5o2bob6obo2b5obobo$bo6b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o6bo$
3b4o3b2ob6ob2o3b4o$2b4o9b2o9b4o$bo4bo2bob10obo2bo4bo!

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 1:13 am
by BokaBB
Any news?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 1:58 am
by Hunting
BokaBB wrote: April 28th, 2020, 1:13 am Any news?
Not yet, but hopefully one is on the way. I decided to give D2_x a go. qfind searches will be done later, after my DirtyLife searches.

Also I think I know why me and yujh can't upload results to Catagolue. We are using #anon as payosha256 key, so we will not be able to search rules other than the protected ones.

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 2:16 am
by yujh
Hunting wrote: April 28th, 2020, 1:58 am
BokaBB wrote: April 28th, 2020, 1:13 am Any news?
Not yet, but hopefully one is on the way. I decided to give D2_x a go. qfind searches will be done later, after my DirtyLife searches.

Also I think I know why me and yujh can't upload results to Catagolue. We are using #anon as payosha256 key, so we will not be able to search rules other than the protected ones.
But I’ll upload all my results to github.

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 2:19 am
by Hunting
yujh wrote: April 28th, 2020, 2:16 am
Hunting wrote: April 28th, 2020, 1:58 am
BokaBB wrote: April 28th, 2020, 1:13 am Any news?
Not yet, but hopefully one is on the way. I decided to give D2_x a go. qfind searches will be done later, after my DirtyLife searches.

Also I think I know why me and yujh can't upload results to Catagolue. We are using #anon as payosha256 key, so we will not be able to search rules other than the protected ones.
But I’ll upload all my results to github.
You don't even have a managable text census format.

Large SL:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B34c/S234y8
8o3bo$2o2bo2bo3bobobo$o3b2o3b2o$o2b6obo3b2o$4o3b2o2bo3bo$ob2ob3o5b3o$o
2bob3obob5o$2ob4obobobo$3b2o2b2ob3obo$2bo3bo6bo$2b2o3b2ob2ob3o$2o2bobo
bob2obobo$6b3o5bo$bo3b2o2b3obobo$3bob2obobobo2bo$bob4o3b2ob3o!
p22 is now in D2_x:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B34c/S234y8
3b2o2b3ob3obo$2bo2bobo2bob2obo$b2ob3obo4bo$o3bob3obob3o$ob2obobobo4b2o
$b2obobob2ob3o$2b2ob2obo2b5o$2ob2o4bo2b2o$ob2ob2o5bob2o$o3b2obo2b6o$bo
bo5bob3obo$o4b2o2b4obo$2obob8o2bo$4ob3ob2o3bo$3b2obob2obob3o$2o2bobob
3obobo!
...I just had to post something.

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 2:21 am
by yujh
Hunting wrote: April 28th, 2020, 2:19 am
yujh wrote: April 28th, 2020, 2:16 am
Hunting wrote: April 28th, 2020, 1:58 am

Not yet, but hopefully one is on the way. I decided to give D2_x a go. qfind searches will be done later, after my DirtyLife searches.

Also I think I know why me and yujh can't upload results to Catagolue. We are using #anon as payosha256 key, so we will not be able to search rules other than the protected ones.
But I’ll upload all my results to github.
You don't even have a managable text census format.

Large SL:

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B34c/S234y8
8o3bo$2o2bo2bo3bobobo$o3b2o3b2o$o2b6obo3b2o$4o3b2o2bo3bo$ob2ob3o5b3o$o
2bob3obob5o$2ob4obobobo$3b2o2b2ob3obo$2bo3bo6bo$2b2o3b2ob2ob3o$2o2bobo
bob2obobo$6b3o5bo$bo3b2o2b3obobo$3bob2obobobo2bo$bob4o3b2ob3o!
Oh so I can use the ‘upload to Apgsearch format’
It’s not useful, but I can check the soups.

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 2:56 am
by lemon41625
Is publicly posting an apgsearch key so everyone can use it allowed?

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 3:27 am
by Hunting
lemon41625 wrote: April 28th, 2020, 2:56 am Is publicly posting an apgsearch key so everyone can use it allowed?
No, you need to share it privately, since vandalisms can happen.

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 3:55 am
by yujh
Hunting wrote: April 28th, 2020, 3:27 am
lemon41625 wrote: April 28th, 2020, 2:56 am Is publicly posting an apgsearch key so everyone can use it allowed?
No, you need to share it privately, since vandalisms can happen.
No need to share it to me one year later I can have one(going abroad)

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 5:32 am
by Hunting
Got the key from lemon41625, I will submit PiPufferLife hauls now.

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 7:07 am
by Hunting
After submitting one painful C1 haul I realized D2_x is much faster, getting rid of all those zz_LINEARs.

I will continously submit D2_x hauls. It's a wonder that it's actually slightly faster than LeapLife!

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 7:19 am
by BokaBB
CONGRAULATIONS!!!!!!
Please submit something from my other rules, especially Traffic Flow. Also,please explore it much much more than so far,this is now needed. Also, how to proof that the rule is Turing - complete?You have mentioned NOR gate. Also,I have no idea how W110 unit cells work. Do we have NOR gate in WireWorld?
Please do not argue with me anymore!
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 7:35 am
by yujh
@Hunting, I have no VPN.
Sadsadsad.
Also, I don not have the official version.

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 7:42 am
by BokaBB
Who is jedlimlx@gmail.com?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 7:45 am
by yujh
BokaBB wrote: April 28th, 2020, 7:42 am Who is jedlimlx@gmail.com?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Lemon41625

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 8:08 am
by Hunting
yujh wrote: April 28th, 2020, 7:35 am @Hunting, I have no VPN.
Sadsadsad.
Also, I don not have the official version.
The one I used is exactly the same as yours, version 1, non-totalistic modification. And you don't need VPN - my VPN is off RN. You only need a payosha256 key. (And change catagolue.appspot.com to gol.hatsya.co.uk of course)
BokaBB wrote: April 28th, 2020, 7:19 am CONGRAULATIONS!!!!!!
Please submit something from my other rules, especially Traffic Flow. Also,please explore it much much more than so far,this is now needed. Also, how to proof that the rule is Turing - complete?You have mentioned NOR gate. Also,I have no idea how W110 unit cells work. Do we have NOR gate in WireWorld?
Please do not argue with me anymore!
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Yes.

You can build W110 by using some kind of weird complicated circuitry using only NOR gate and, uh, signal splitters or 1G->2G.

I will, of course.
BokaBB wrote: April 28th, 2020, 7:42 am Who is jedlimlx@gmail.com?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Probably lemon41625.

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 8:12 am
by BokaBB
Yes,he is lemon41625.
Please explore my other rules and submit results on Catalogue (I have found Pi puffer life,but others hardly)!
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 8:43 am
by yujh
BokaBB wrote: April 28th, 2020, 8:12 am Yes,he is lemon41625.
Please explore my other rules and submit results on Catalogue (I have found Pi puffer life,but others hardly)!
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Rules need to be great enough to let us explore more(CGOL)
Don’t stop rule golfing!

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 8:48 am
by Hunting
BokaBB wrote: April 28th, 2020, 8:12 am Please explore my other rules and submit results on Catalogue (I have found Pi puffer life,but others hardly)!
I will. Just be patient - I want to do more D2_x hauls before contributing to Traffic Flow, ResistantLife or even LeapLife.

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 8:55 am
by BokaBB
Do you know how to write name of the rule at Catalogue?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 9:58 am
by Hunting
BokaBB wrote: April 28th, 2020, 8:55 am Do you know how to write name of the rule at Catalogue?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
You need Catagolue maintainers like, uh, calcyman, in order to do that, I think.

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 11:25 am
by BokaBB
I was thinking that you can simulate rules with W110,of course no,what a strange idea!
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Pi puffer life - rule balanced beetwen stability and expansion

Posted: April 28th, 2020, 9:47 pm
by yujh
Hunting wrote: April 28th, 2020, 8:08 am
yujh wrote: April 28th, 2020, 7:35 am @Hunting, I have no VPN.
Sadsadsad.
Also, I don not have the official version.
V1
No, I don’t use that.(u know)