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Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 9:52 pm**

P8 sparker:

x = 14, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
5.B2.B$4.B4.B2$.B2.B4.B2.B$B12.B$AB2.6B2.BA$2.3B.2A.3B$2.A2.A2.A2.A$
6.2A!

All I can really do is mess around until I find a suitable P16 sparker.
EDIT: This is pretty fragile but has some neat catalyses nonetheless.

Code: Select all

x = 14, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
6.2B$6.2B2$4.2B2.2B$.2B2.4B2.2B$A.3B.2A.3B.A$2.A2.A2.A2.A$6.2A!

Edit 2: P19:

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x = 16, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.2B10.2B$B4.2B2.2B4.B$B.B3.4B3.B.B$.A.3B.2A.3B.A$3.A2.A2.A2.A$7.2A!

Edit 3: P138:

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x = 18, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
3.3B6.3B$A.3B.B4.B.3B.A$.B14.B$2.B.2B.4B.2B.B$.A.B3.4B3.B.A$2.A.3B.2A
.3B.A$4.A2.A2.A2.A$8.2A!

Edit 4: WHAT?

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
.B12.B$AB12.BA$2.B3.4B3.B$.A.2B2.2A2.2B.A$3.A2.A2.A2.A!

Edit 5: A new P14, let's see what it can do...

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
.B12.B$A.2B2.4B2.2B.A$2.A.2B.2A.2B.A$6.A2.A$7.2A!

Edit 6: P41:

Code: Select all

x = 10, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
6.B.B$B7.B$4B2.2B.A$.2A.B2.A$A2.A$.2A!

Edit 7: P25:

Code: Select all

x = 14, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
3B8.3B$.A.2B4.2B.A$3.A.4B.A$5.A2.A!

Edit 8: P20:

Code: Select all

x = 14, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
3B8.3B$BA.2B4.2B.AB$3.A.4B.A$5.A2.A!

Edit 9: P11:

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
4.2B4.2B$4.2B4.2B3$3.2B6.2B$.3B.B4.B.3B$.BA.2B4.2B.AB$A3.A.4B.A3.A$6.
A2.A!

Edit 10: A "4a" sparker at P14:

Code: Select all

x = 10, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
4.2B$2.6B$B.2B2.2B.B$2B.B2.B.2B$A.6B.A$.A.4B.A$4.2A!

Edit 11: P21 transparent beehive:

Code: Select all

x = 14, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
B12.B$2B10.2B$A.2B6.2B.A$2.A.B4.B.A$3.A.4B.A$6.2A!

Edit 12: P60:

Code: Select all

x = 20, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
A4B10.4BA$3.A.2B6.2B.A$5.A.B4.B.A$6.A.4B.A$9.2A!

Edit 13: P60:

Code: Select all

x = 20, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2.A3B8.3BA$3.A.2B6.2B.A$5.A.B4.B.A$6.A.4B.A$9.2A!

Edit 14: P16:

Code: Select all

x = 10, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
2B6.2B$A2.4B2.A$4.2A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:20 pm**

Here is another p121 oscillator.

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$3.B.A$4.B.A$5.B.A$5.2B$5.2B$.B3.B.A$A.3B.A$.A.B.A$2.A!

Edit: Here is a p132 oscillator.

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
2.A$2B.A$B.2B.A$2.B.B.A$5.B.A$6.B$6.B$.B3.B.A$A.B.B.A$.A.B.A$2.A!

Another edit: Here is a p388.

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
.2A$.B.A$2.3BA$4.B.A$5.B.A$2.B3.B$.4B.B$.B3.B.A$A.B.B.A$.A.B.A$2.A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:25 pm**

P114:

Code: Select all

x = 14, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
.B10.B$B.B8.B.B$2A.B6.B.2A$2.A2.4B2.A$6.2A!

Please help me find P14, P15, and P16 sparkers, so we can get the last three gun periods!

EDIT: Really sparky P7:

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2.B10.B$.B.B8.B.B$B2A.B6.B.2AB$3.A2.4B2.A$7.2A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:27 pm**

wwei23 wrote: November 24th, 2020, 10:25 pmPlease help me find P14, P15, and P16 sparkers, so we can get the last three gun periods!

I cannot specifically search for a particular period (at least using my current method), but I will attempt to adjust my search method so that it is more likely to find oscillators with smaller periods.

Edit: Here's a p12.

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
.B.B$B2A.A$.A3.AB$4.A.A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:28 pm**

MathAndCode wrote: November 24th, 2020, 10:27 pmI cannot specifically search for a particular period (at least using my current method), but I will attempt to adjust my search method so that it is more likely to find oscillators with smaller periods.

Well, I did mean messing around until P14/15/16 showed up anyways, so...

Hey, at least we get sparks at all sorts of periods!
P48:

Code: Select all

x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
.AB6.BA$A.B6.B.A$.B8.B$4.4B$4.B2AB!

EDIT: P115:

Code: Select all

x = 14, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
.B4.2B4.B$A.B2.B2.B2.B.A$.A.2B.2A.2B.A$2.A2.A2.A2.A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:30 pm**

wwei23 wrote: November 24th, 2020, 10:28 pmWell, I did mean messing around until P14/15/16 showed up anyways, so...
Hey, at least we get sparks at all sorts of periods!

I think that I overadjusted slightly. This oscillator has period ten.

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
.B.B$B.A.A$.A.3AB$4.A.A$5.AB!

Edit: Maybe not, as this has period 203.

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
.B.B$B.A.A$2A3.AB$A5.A$5.AB!

Deleting a beehive would probably result in a lower-period oscillator, though.

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:31 pm**

And now we have a random P26.

Code: Select all

x = 14, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
2B4.2B4.2B$A.B2.B2.B2.B.A$.A.2B.2A.2B.A$2.A2.A2.A2.A!

They'll show up eventually if we just keep messing around.

EDIT: P20:

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
3B4.2B4.3B$.A.B2.B2.B2.B.A$2.A.2B.2A.2B.A$3.A2.A2.A2.A!

Edit 2: P64:

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
3B4.2B4.3B$A2.2B.B2.B.2B2.A$3.A.B.2A.B.A$6.A2.A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:34 pm**

wwei23 wrote: November 24th, 2020, 10:31 pmThey'll show up eventually if we just keep messing around.

I actually found a p97 when I first logged in that became a p15 if I removed a blinker eater, but I lost it before I posted it.
Also, here's a p8.

Code: Select all

x = 10, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
B.B6.A$4B4.B$2.A.4B.A$3.A.2B.A$4.A2.A!

Edit: Here's a p23.

Code: Select all

x = 10, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
3.B5.A$.3B4.B$A.A.4B.A$3.A.2B.A$4.A2.A!

Another edit: Here's a p12.

Code: Select all

x = 10, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2.2B4.A$.B.B4.B$A.A.B2.B.A$3.A.2B.A$4.A2.A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:36 pm**

This is a relative P64?

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
3B4.2B4.3B$A2.4B2.4B2.A$3.A3.2A3.A$6.A2.A!

I hope that the forums don't drown in oscillators before we find the three missing gun periods.

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
3B4.2B4.3B$A2.4B2.4B2.A$3.A3.2A3.A$6.A2.A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:39 pm**

Here is a p93.

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$6.A2$6.BA$2B.2B.B$.B3.B$A.B.B.A$.A.B.A$2.A.A!

It was originally a p48, but I thought that adding the duoplet at the top would decrease the period.

Edit: Here's a p9.

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$5.A2$4.2BA$3.B.B$2B2.B$.B.B.A$A.B.A$.A.A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:40 pm**

P10:

Code: Select all

x = 22, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
4.4B6.4B$.B.B14.B.B$A.2B4.B4.B4.2B.A$2.A.2B.B.B2.B.B.2B.A$5.A.3B2.3B.
A$6.A.A.2A.A.A$9.A2.A$10.2A!

At least we have pentadecathalons to help us at P15.

EDIT: P14...

Code: Select all

x = 10, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
B8.B$AB6.BA$3.4B$4.2A!

Yeah, good luck making anything with this.

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:44 pm**

wwei23 wrote: November 24th, 2020, 10:40 pmAt least we have pentadecathalons to help us at P15.

There are also p14 and p16 oscillators in ConwayLife, although I can't think of any that are quite as sparky.
Also, here's a p92.

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
2.B$2.A4$4.2BA$4.2B2$.3B$A.B.A$.A.A!

Edit: Here's a p12.

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
4.2BA$5.B$.B4.A$.B.B$A.B.A$.A.A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:49 pm**

P10:

Code: Select all

x = 18, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
.2A12.2A$2.A12BA$A.A2.2B.2B.2B2.A.A$2A4.A.2A.A4.2A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 10:56 pm**

wwei23 wrote: November 24th, 2020, 10:49 pm P10:

Here's a p21.

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
5.B$3.2B.A$.B.B$A.B.A$.A.A!

Edit: Here's a p5.

Code: Select all

x = 6, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$2.2B.B2$.B.B$A.B.A$.A.A!

Another edit: Here is a p14 that unfortunately is not very sparky.

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
.B.3B$A3.B.A$2B.B.A$A.B.A$.A.A!

Yet another edit: Here is a p38 sparker.

Code: Select all

x = 5, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
2.2B$B.B.A$.B.A$A.A!

Fourth edit: Here's a p9.

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
4.2B$5.B$.B3.BA$.B.2B$A.B.A!

Fifth edit: Here's a p11.

Code: Select all

x = 11, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
7.B.A$.A5.2B$B3.B4.B$.A.B3.B.BA$2.B.B.3B$3.A.B.A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 11:35 pm**

If you look at the P18 and P17 guns, you'll see that they both make their gliders using this two-spark combo. It seems like that these two sparks are ones that are more easily inserted at a corner. This might be the key to P14, P15, and P16.

Code: Select all

x = 5, y = 5, rule = LifeHistory
4.E$4.E$C.C$2.C$2.C!

EDIT: Such a spark combination would work at P14:

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
2.E.E.E2$3.3E2$2C$3C$.C4.A$C3.A.A$5.2A!

EDIT 2: The reason why this spark pair works so well is because you're inserting from the side. Other pairs tend to take longer to form, which is a problem when you only have 14 generations to work with.

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 11:45 pm**

I found a p14, but unfortunately, it doesn't make either of the sparks that wwei23 mentioned.

Code: Select all

x = 9, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
AB$B.B$.B5.B$A.B4.B$.A.B2.B.A$2.A.2B.A$3.A2.A!

Edit: Here's a p11.

Code: Select all

x = 9, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
.A$A.B$.B4.2B$A.B4.B$.A.B2.B.A$2.A.2B.A$3.A2.A!

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 11:47 pm**

MathAndCode wrote: November 24th, 2020, 11:45 pm I found a p14, but unfortunately, it doesn't make either of the sparks that wwei23 mentioned.

They're still worth posting, you never know when you're going to need this weird spark or that weird spark to catalyze something, and Symbiosis tends to generate a lot of weird sparks.

Posted: **November 24th, 2020, 11:50 pm**

Here is a p37 sparker.

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
5.2BA$.2B3.B$A.B2.B$.A2.B.A$5.A!

Edit: Here is a p10.

Code: Select all

x = 9, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
.B4.2BA$A3.B2.B$.A2B2.B$2.A.3BA$6.A!

Another edit: Here is a p132.

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
7.A$.2B3.2B$AB.B3.B$.A3B.B$2.A.3BA$6.A!

Yet another edit: Here is a p42.

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
3.3B$2.5B$AB3.B.A$2.3B.A$.A2.2A!

Fourth edit: Here is a p66.

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
3.2B.B$.2B2.B.A$A.3B.A$.A2.2A!

Posted: **November 25th, 2020, 12:33 am**

A surprising new P3:

Code: Select all

x = 6, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$.3B$B$.A2.AB$2.2A$B.A$2B!

EDIT: P23:

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
.A6.2AB3.2A$B7.2A.B.B2A$3.A2B3.2A$4.B.B.A2.A$2A5.A5.B$.B5.A4.A$B2.B.
2BA4.B$4B.B2.A.A4.B$4.B2.B.A2.A2.B$.AB5.B2.B3.A!

Edit 2: P5 with only one red cell, can this be stabilized in ordinary Life?

Code: Select all

x = 10, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$5.B2.A$5.B.3B$5.2B$2.2B4.2B$.B.B5.B$.B6.B$2B6.2B!

Edit 3: P16:

Code: Select all

x = 11, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
5.2BA$B2.A2.B2.B$.3A5.A$ABA3B3.2A$4.B$5.B$5.B$5.B!

Edit 4: P109 Herschel factory:

Code: Select all

x = 17, y = 33, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$6.3B$9.B$8.2B5$15.2B$15.2B$6.3B$7.B$7.3B10$6.2B$6.2B4.A$11.A.A$
11.A.A$2.B6.2B2.AB$2A.A4.2B.B.A$A.A.2B.2B.A.A$4.5B2.A$2.B4.BABA$.B.A
3B3.AB$2.B2.B!

Edit 5: P216 gun:

Code: Select all

x = 25, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
6.2A4.3A$7.2A3.A.A$7.A8.A$6.A3.A2.4A$9.2A5.A.2A$9.2A.A2.5A$3.B6.3A2.A
6.A$3.AB3.2B2.A.A.B3.2B$.A6.2B2.A2.AB2.B3.B$2.B7.A.AB4.A.3B.A$3.BA5.B
9.A$.A.B4.B2.A6.BA$B6.A.BA4.BA.A$9.B.2AB.AB5.A$22.B!

Posted: **November 25th, 2020, 12:52 am**

wwei23 wrote: November 25th, 2020, 12:33 am Edit 2: P5 with only one red cell, can this be stabilized in ordinary Life?
Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$5.B2.A$5.B.3B$5.2B$2.2B4.2B$.B.B5.B$.B6.B$2B6.2B!

Code: Select all

x = 10, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
7.2A$7.A$8.A$7.2A$5.A$5.A.2A$5.2A2.A$2.2A4.2A$.A.A$.A$2A!

Hooks

Posted: **November 25th, 2020, 12:53 am**

Really weird spark:

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$4.A.A$5.B.A$4.B.2A$5.B$2.AB.B$BA.2B$.2B$.2B.B.B2$4.B.B!

EDIT: Symmetric P6:

Code: Select all

x = 5, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
B.2A$.A2.A3$A2.A$.2A.B!

Can someone give us a pile of oscillators or something? Things aren't searching so well for me.

Edit 2: P50:

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$5.2AB$2B3.A$2B3.A$4.A.AB$5.A!

Edit 3: R->LWSS:

Code: Select all

x = 11, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
2A$2A6.B$8.3B$9.B$A2B$2.B$.A$3.BA3$10.A$9.B2$9.A$10.B!

Edit 4: ?????

Code: Select all

x = 6, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
2.3A2$A4.A$A4.A$A3.A$2.2A.B!

Edit 5: What?

Code: Select all

x = 10, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
.2A.AB.AB$B.A.2A.2A$2.A6.A$3.6A$4.4A!

Edit 6: Really weird P16, unfortunately doesn't look like gun material:

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$2.A.A.BA$2.A.A$B.A.2A$.A2.2A$3.B!

Posted: **November 25th, 2020, 10:10 am**

MathAndCode wrote: November 24th, 2020, 8:01 pm
Edit: Here's a p121.
Code: Select all
x = 8, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$2.B12$3.A$3.2A$.A4.A$.A4.A$.A3.A.B$B.A.A.B$.B.A.B$2.B.B$3.B!

looks kinda similar to this
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2999&start=100#p105113
except the part at the top is different
edit: p13 bananana sparker

Code: Select all

x = 6, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2.2B$.2B.B$A2.2B$2.A.AB$3.2A!

edit2: p35

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
A2B10.2BA$A.B3.B2.B3.B.A$.A.3B.2A.3B.A$2.A.B.A2.A.B.A$3.A3.2A3.A!

edit3. p14 sparker

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x = 16, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
AB12.BA$A.B3.B2.B3.B.A$.A.3B.2A.3B.A$2.A.B.A2.A.B.A$3.A3.2A3.A!

edit4 p144 tub maker deleter. has a [s]load[/s]long toad in this phase

Code: Select all

x = 14, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$5.5A$4.5A$3.A2.2B2.A$.A2.B4.B.A$.2A8.2A$B2AB6.B2A$.2AB6.B2AB$.2A
8.2A$2.A.B4.B2.A$3.A2.2B2.A$5.5A$4.5A$6.B!

edit5 p219

Code: Select all

x = 16, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis
.B12.B$BA7.2A2.2AB$.5A3.2A.2A$2.3A.4A2.2A$4.A2.2B2.3A$.2A2.B4.B2.A$.
3A8.A$3.AB6.BA$3.AB6.BA$3.A8.3A$2.A2.B4.B2.2A$2.3A2.2B2.A$2.2A2.4A.3A
$2.2A.2A3.5A$B2A2.2A7.AB$.B12.B!

Posted: **November 25th, 2020, 5:53 pm**

ENORMOUS_NAME wrote: November 25th, 2020, 10:10 amlooks kinda similar to this
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2999&start=100#p105113
except the part at the top is different

Sorry. As wwei23 mentioned earlier, this oscillator search is pretty unorganized.

Posted: **November 25th, 2020, 5:54 pm**

MathAndCode wrote: November 25th, 2020, 5:53 pm Sorry. As wwei23 mentioned earlier, this oscillator search is pretty unorganized.

And it's not like we could have a pattern collection of all known oscillators, since, well, good luck finding any particular oscillator in that!

Random unsparky P16:

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
.BA2.BA$4.A$3.AB$.2B2.2B$.2B.B2.A$A3.2B2A$.B2.B.A$5.A.A$5.A.A$6.A!

EDIT: Fixed code tags.
Edit 2: Another P16:

Code: Select all

x = 5, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
2A$.B$2B$B3.B$4.A$B$AB!

Edit 3: Another P16:

Code: Select all

x = 10, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$4.B$5.2B.A$5.B.B.A$9.A$4.2B.2B$.2A.B3.B$A2.A3.A$.A.A$2.A!

Edit 4: Another P16:

Code: Select all

x = 6, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
3.AB$3.B.A3$3.3B$2.B2.B$BA2.B$2.2B.A!

Edit 5: P64 glider gun!

Code: Select all

x = 9, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$B3.A$BA4.2A$3.A.2A.B$2.B2.A$2.3A.B$2.A.A2.A!

Edit 6: Also a P66:

Code: Select all

x = 14, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
2.B2.A$.A.A3.A$2B4.2BA$4.A4.A2.B$3.A2.ABA4.A$2.B.A2.3A3.A$2.2B.A3.A3.
B$6.3A2$12.A$10.AB2$7.2A$7.2A!

Posted: **November 25th, 2020, 6:04 pm**

wwei23 wrote: November 25th, 2020, 5:54 pmAnd it's not like we could have a pattern collection of all known oscillators, since, well, good luck finding any particular oscillator in that!

Maybe they could be sorted by period?

Edit: Can someone get a p223 glider gun out of this?

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x = 15, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.2B8.2B$2B7.2B2.BA$.2B.3B.2B2.B.A$4.4B.B.B.A$3.2A.B.A.2BA$4.BA!
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