Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

[simsim314]

Dave let me guess.

He will ignore your challenge completely and will post another totally silly pattern like:

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x = 64, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
45bo$43b2o16bobo$44b2o15b2o$62bo21$58bo$57b2o$57bobo11$bo$b2o15b2o$obo
16b2o$18bo2$57b2o$56b2o$58bo!
#C [[ AUTOSTART LOOP 900 ZOOM 5.4 THUMBNAIL ]]

Claiming it's a great pattern that converts 6 gliders into 3 gliders and 4 blocks.

[dvgrn]

Dave let me guess. He will ignore your challenge completely...

Unfortunately that does seem to be a likely outcome. Still, it was a good example of the difference between a minimal glider synthesis and a non-minimal one. At this point it doesn't seem as if it will do any harm to extend the benefit of the doubt a little further.

Maybe other newcomers to Life will end up learning something from this thread, at least, if we make a little extra effort here and there, even when we don't seem to be getting through. This has all been kind of an interesting exercise -- good teaching practice, anyway, however it turns out in this particular case.

[Gustavo6046]

I was now thinking in renaming this thread to "Gustavo's patterns" or something similiar, since the complete name is actually an luxury attributed to only the most notable people that research in Life.
Either way, I am looking more into supressors -- patterns and/or catalysts that change the period of a glider stream without changing their position (the position of the supressor components, not of the glider stream itself), useful for guns, but specially for GGG-esque oscillators since the result can be one extremely large period -- and the best, non-p30 multiple.
I recently found one -- unfortunately I forgot to save it.
EDIT: I found one! For an p133 gun in jslife collection, the following supressor will need a constant supply of p133 gliders, and the first one must be exactly in where the pattern's glider is located.

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x = 117, y = 151, rule = B3/S23
14$48bo$48b3o$51bo$50b2o28$63bo$64b2o$63b2o4$45b2o$46bo$46bobo$47b2o
15$91bo$90bobo$90b2o5$99bo$98bobo$99bo49$13b2o$12bobo$12bo$11b2o4$38b
2o$37bobo$37bo$36b2o!

EDIT 2: No it is not a supressor because it is unstable and is a OTS (one-time supressor), even if it don't comprises of oscillators (and therefore is p1). However joining a infinite amount of them in a glider stream will result in one infinite bounding box stable (p1) supressor of unknown period. Unfortunately. But the following is one succesfull test which joins two of them, making two gliders in the same ridicularly high period before the usual p133 stream:

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x = 596, y = 539, rule = B3/S23
108bo2bo2bo$108b7o2bo$115b3o$110b4o$109bobob3o$109bobo4bo$108b2obob3ob
o$70b2o37bo5bobo$71bo37bob4o2b2o$71bobo34b2o2bobobo$72b2o36b2o2bobo10b
o$110bobobob2o7b3o$107b2obob2obo8bo$107bo2b2obobo8b2o$108b2o3bob2o$
110b3o5bo3bo$110bo3b3obo2bobo$111b3o4bo3b2o2b2o$113bob2o9b2o$115bo$
113bobo$113b2o8$93b2o38bo$93bobo36b2o272bo2bo2bo$93bo23bo2bo2bo8bobo
271b7o2bo$117b7o2bo286b3o$124b3o281b4o$119b4o284bobob3o$118bobob3o282b
obo4bo$118bobo4bo280b2obob3obo$117b2obob3obo280bo5bobo$118bo5bobo280bo
b4o2b2o$118bob4o2b2o278b2o2bobobo$117b2o2bobobo219bo2bo2bo56b2o2bobo
10bo$119b2o2bobo10bo205bo2b7o56bobobob2o7b3o$99bobo17bobobob2o7b3o205b
3o60b2obob2obo8bo$99b2o15b2obob2obo8bo212b2obo55bo2b2obobo8b2o$100bo
15bo2b2obobo8b2o209b3obobo55b2o3bob2o$117b2o3bob2o217bo3bo2bo57b3o5bo
3bo$119b3o5bo3bo210bob2ob2ob2o56bo3b3obo2bobo$119bo3b3obo2bobo209bobo
3bobo58b3o4bo3b2o2b2o$120b3o4bo2bo2bob2o204b2o2b4obo60bob2o9b2o$122bob
2o4bo2bob2o206bobobo2b2o61bo$124bo5bo2bo198bo10bobo3bo61bobo$122bobo5b
2o200b3o7b2obo3bo61b2o$122b2o8bo202bo8bob2obob2o$334b2o8bo2b3o2bo$343b
2obo3b2o$180b2o155bo5bo2b4o$179bobo2bo2bo4b2o142bobo6bo3bo$179bo4b6o2b
o139b2o2b2o5bo2b3o$177b2ob4o6bobo122b2o15b2o9b2obo$176bobobo2bobob4ob
2o24bo2bo2bo78b2o4bo2bo2bobo26bo$176bobo2b2ob2o4bobo22bo2b7o79bo2b6o4b
o26bobo106b2o$172b2ob2o2b3o3bobob2obo22b3o86bobo6b4ob2o25b2o85b2o18bob
o2bo2bo4b2o$127bo44bo4bo4b4obobo2b2o25b2obo80b2obobob2o4bobobo111bobo
17bo4b6o2bo$126b2o37b3o5b3obob3o4b2obobo25b3obobo80bo4bobob2o3bobo111b
o17b2ob4o6bobo$126bobo36bo9bobobo2b3o3bo2bo24bo3bo2bo80bob2o8b3ob2ob2o
124bobobo3bo2b2obob2o$166bo15bo2b3o3b2o22bob2ob2ob2o78b2o2bobob4o4bo4b
o16bobo105bobo3b4obo4bo$176b3o6bo29bobo3bobo81bobob2o4b3obob3o18b2o
101b2ob2obobo4bobob2obo$214b2o2b4obo81bo2bo3b3o2bo3bo20bo102bo4bo4b4ob
obo2b2o$216bobobo2b2o79b2o3b3o2bo131b3o3b3o4b2obobo$177bo27bo10bobo3bo
88bo7bo128bobobo2b3o3bo2bo$176bobo26b3o7b2obo3bo96bo79bo49b3o3bo2b3o3b
2o$176b2o30bo8bob2obob2o173bobo56bo$180b2o25b2o8bo2b3o2bo93bo79b2o$95b
2o5b2o76bobo33b2obo3b2o93bobo$96bo5b2o71b2o5bo27bo5bo2b4o96b2o129bo$
66bo29bobo76b2o5b2o25bobo6bo3bo92b2o132bobo$66bobo28b2o106b2o2b2o5bo2b
3o92bobo132b2o$66b2o33b2o102b2o9b2obo94bo5b2o131b2o$100bobo114bo95b2o
5b2o131bobo$101bo115bobo228b2o5bo$218b2o228b2o5b2o$153b2o$93bo59b2o$
86b2o3b3o2bo3b3o9bo51b2o$87bo2bo3b3o2bobobo6bobo51bobo54b2o5b2o$87bobo
b2o4b3o3b3o5b2o51bo56b2o5bo$85b2o2bobob4o4bo4bo119bobo107b2o$86bob2obo
bo4bobob2ob2o119b2o108bobo$86bo4bob4o3bobo119b2o112bo$85b2obob2o2bo3bo
bobo119bobo$86bobo6b4ob2o95b3o23bo$86bo2b6o4bo99bo$85b2o4bo2bo2bobo44b
2o16b2o34bo$97b2o44bobo16bobo66bo$145bo16bo59b3o3bo2b3o3b2o187b2o$221b
obobo2b3o3bo2bo187bobo$219b3o3b3o4b2obobo189bo$218bo4bo4b4obobo2b2o
140b2o5b2o$189b3o26b2ob2obobo4bobob2obo137bo3b2o5bo$188b2ob2o15bo13bob
o3b4obo4bo135bobo8bobo$60bo2bo2bo121b2o3bo12b2o14bobobo3bo2b2obob2o
135b2o8b2o$57bo2b7o122b2ob2o13b2o14b2ob4o6bobo142b2o$57b3o130b3o32bo4b
6o2bo142bobo$61b4o126bo33bobo2bo2bo4b2o127bo14bo$59b3obobo75b2o83b2o
137b2o$58bo4bobo74bobo223b2o$57bob3obob2o73bo249bo$57bobo5bo62b2o9b2ob
o196bo2bo2bo41bo2b3o3b2o$34bo21b2o2b4obo62b2o2b2o4bo3b3o191bo2b7o34b2o
b2o2b3o3bo2bo$32b2o24bobobo2b2o65bobo2b3obo3bo190b3o39b3obob3o4b2obobo
$33b2o12bo10bobo2b2o68bo4bo2b5o194b4o33bo4bo4b4obobo2b2o$47b3o7b2obobo
bo74b2obo3b2o190b3obobo32b2ob2ob2obo5bo2bobo$50bo8bob2obob2o62b2o8bo3b
2o2bo188bo4bobo36bobo2bo2bo2bo2bobo$49b2o8bobob2o2bo63bo8bob2obob2o
187bob3obob2o8b2o25bobo4bobobob2ob2o$58b2obo3b2o61b3o7b2obo3bo190bobo
5bo9b2o26b2ob4o6bobo$52bo3bo5b3o63bo10bobobobo189b2o2b4obo39bo4b6o2bo$
51bobo2bob3o3bo74bobo4b2o189bobobo2b2o38bobo2bo2bo4b2o$47b2o2b2o3bo4b
3o73b2o2bob2obo179bo10bobo2b2o41b2o$10b2o5b2o28b2o9b2obo33bo2bo2bo36bo
bo3bobo179b3o7b2obobobo$11bo5b2o40bo35b7o2bo33bob5ob2o181bo8bob2obob2o
$11bobo45bobo40b3o34bo4bobo181b2o8bobob2o2bo$12b2o46b2o35b4o39b3obobo
190b2obo3b2o$16b2o78bobob3o39b2obo185bo3bo5b3o22b2o$15bobo78bobo4bo34b
3o27b2o160bobo2bob3o3bo21b2o$16bo78b2o2b4obo33bo2b7o21b2o155b2o2b2o3bo
4b3o24bo$96bobo3bobo36bo2bo2bo20bo157b2o9b2obo$96bo3b2o2b2o232bo$8bo
86b2o2bobobo234bobo52bo$b2o3b3o2bo85b2o2bobo10bo224b2o52b2o$2bo2bo3b3o
2b2ob2o78bobobob2o7b3o212bo64bobo$2bobob2o4b3o3b3o73b2obo2bobo8bo102bo
112b2o$2o2bobob4o4bo4bo17b2o53bo2b4obo8b2o44b2o53bobo111bobo18bo$bob2o
3bo3bob2ob2ob2o16bobo54b2o3bob2o54b2o18bo34b2o10b2o120bobo$bobob2ob2o
2b2obobo22bo56b4o2bo5bo47bo19bo46b2o121b2o$2o2bob3o4bobobo79bo3b3o4bob
o66b3o46bo$bobo6b4ob2o81b3o2bo5b2o2b2o$bo2b6o4bo28b2o55bob2o9b2o$2o4bo
2bo2bobo27bobo57bo$12b2o28bo57bobo$30b2o9b2obo55b2o10bo223bo$30b2o2b2o
4bo3b3o26bo37b2o223bobo84bo2bo2bo$34bobo2b3obo3bo23bobo37bobo222b2o85b
7o2bo$35bo4bo2b5o24b2o356b3o$41b2obo3b2o375bob2o$32b2o8bo3b2o2bo373bob
ob3o$33bo8bob2obob2o373bobo4bo$30b3o7b2obo3bo375b2ob5obo$30bo10bobobob
o376bobo3bobo$41bobo4b2o374bob2obo2b2o$39b2o2bob2obo374b2o4bobo$40bobo
3bobo376bobobobo10bo$40bob5ob2o375bo3bob2o7b3o$41bo4bobo373b2obob2obo
8bo$42b3obobo373bo2b2o3bo8b2o$44b2obo375b2o3bob2o$40b3o356b2o24b5o2bo
4bo$40bo2b7o85b2o222bobo37bobo23bo3bob3o2bobo$43bo2bo2bo84bobo223b2o
37bo26b3o3bo4b2o2b2o$136bo223bo10b2o55bob2o9b2o$370bobo57bo28b2o$370bo
57bobo27bobo2bo2bo4b2o$358b2o9b2obo55b2o28bo4b6o2bo$358b2o2b2o5bo2b3o
81b2ob4o6bobo$246bo46b3o66bobo4b3o3bo79bobobo4b3obo2b2o$124b2o121b2o
46bo19bo47bo5bo2b4o56bo22bobob2o2b2ob2obobo$123bobo120b2o10b2o34bo18b
2o54b2obo3b2o54bobo16b2ob2ob2obo3bo3b2obo$125bo18bobo111bobo53b2o44b2o
8bob4o2bo53b2o17bo4bo4b4obobo2b2o$144b2o112bo102bo8bobo2bob2o73b3o3b3o
4b2obobo$78bobo64bo212b3o7b2obobobo78b2ob2o2b3o3bo2bo$78b2o52b2o224bo
10bobo2b2o85bo2b3o3b2o$79bo52bobo234bobobo2b2o86bo$134bo232b2o2b2o3bo$
132bob2o9b2o157bo20bo2bo2bo36bobo3bobo$105bo24b3o4bo3b2o2b2o155b2o21b
7o2bo33bob4o2b2o78bo$106b2o21bo3b3obo2bobo160b2o27b3o34bo4bobo78bobo$
105b2o22b3o5bo3bo185bob2o39b3obobo78b2o$127b2o3bob2o190bobob3o39b4o35b
2o46b2o$126bo2b2obobo8b2o181bobo4bo34b3o40bobo45bobo$126b2obob2obo8bo
181b2ob5obo33bo2b7o35bo40b2o5bo$129bobobob2o7b3o179bobo3bobo36bo2bo2bo
33bob2o9b2o28b2o5b2o$86b2o41b2o2bobo10bo179bob2obo2b2o73b3o4bo3b2o2b2o
$74b2o4bo2bo2bobo38b2o2bobobo189b2o4bobo74bo3b3obo2bobo$75bo2b6o4bo39b
ob4o2b2o189bobobobo10bo63b3o5bo3bo$75bobo6b4ob2o26b2o9bo5bobo190bo3bob
2o7b3o61b2o3bob2o$74b2ob2obobobo4bobo25b2o8b2obob3obo187b2obob2obo8bo
63bo2b2obobo8b2o$75bobo2bo2bo2bo2bobo36bobo4bo188bo2b2o3bo8b2o62b2obob
2obo8bo$75bobo2bo5bob2ob2ob2o32bobob3o190b2o3bob2o74bobobob2o7b3o$74b
2o2bobob4o4bo4bo33b4o194b5o2bo4bo68b2o2bobo10bo12b2o$76bobob2o4b3obob
3o39b3o190bo3bob3o2bobo65b2o2bobobo24b2o$76bo2bo3b3o2b2ob2o34b7o2bo
191b3o3bo4b2o2b2o62bob4o2b2o21bo$75b2o3b3o2bo41bo2bo2bo196bob2o9b2o62b
o5bobo$82bo249bo73b2obob3obo$105b2o223bobo74bobo4bo$106b2o137b2o83b2o
75bobob3o$90bo14bo127b2o4bo2bo2bobo33bo126b4o$89bobo142bo2b6o4bo32b3o
130b3o$90b2o142bobo6b4ob2o14b2o13b2ob2o122b7o2bo$86b2o8b2o135b2obob2o
2bo3bobobo14b2o12bo3b2o121bo2bo2bo$85bobo8bobo135bo4bob4o3bobo13bo15b
2ob2o$85bo5b2o3bo137bob2obobo4bobob2ob2o26b3o$84b2o5b2o140b2o2bobob4o
4bo4bo$45bo189bobob2o4b3o3b3o$45bobo187bo2bo3b3o2bobobo$45b2o187b2o3b
3o2bo3b3o59bo16bo$241bo66bobo16bobo44b2o$274bo34b2o16b2o44bobo2bo2bo4b
2o$273bo99bo4b6o2bo$249bo23b3o95b2ob4o6bobo$248bobo119bobobo3bo2b2obob
2o$136bo112b2o119bobo3b4obo4bo$134bobo108b2o119b2ob2obobo4bobob2obo$
135b2o107bobo119bo4bo4b4obobo2b2o$244bo5b2o56bo51b2o5b3o3b3o4b2obobo$
243b2o5b2o54bobo51bobo6bobobo2b3o3bo2bo$307b2o51bo9b3o3bo2b3o3b2o$318b
2o59bo$318b2o$16b2o5b2o228b2o$17bo5b2o228bobo115bo$17bobo131b2o5b2o95b
o114bobo$18b2o131b2o5bo94bob2o9b2o102b2o33b2o$22b2o132bobo92b3o2bo5b2o
2b2o106b2o28bobo$21bobo132b2o92bo3bo6bobo25b2o5b2o76bobo29bo$22bo129b
2o96b4o2bo5bo27bo5b2o71b2o5bo$152bobo93b2o3bob2o33bobo76b2o5b2o$72b2o
79bo93bo2b3o2bo8b2o25b2o$14bo56bobo173b2obob2obo8bo30b2o$7b2o3b3o2bo3b
3o49bo79bo96bo3bob2o7b3o26bobo$8bo2bo3b3o2bobobo128bo7bo88bo3bobo10bo
27bo$8bobob2o4b3o3b3o131bo2b3o3b2o79b2o2bobobo$6b2o2bobob4o4bo4bo102bo
20bo3bo2b3o3bo2bo81bob4o2b2o$7bob2obobo4bobob2ob2o101b2o18b3obob3o4b2o
bobo81bobo3bobo29bo6b3o$7bo4bob4o3bobo105bobo16bo4bo4b4obobo2b2o78b2ob
2ob2obo22b2o3b3o2bo15bo$6b2obob2o2bo3bobobo124b2ob2ob3o8b2obo80bo2bo3b
o24bo2bo3b3o2bobobo9bo36bobo$7bobo6b4ob2o17bo111bobo3b2obobo4bo80bobob
3o25bobob2o4b3obob3o5b3o37b2o$7bo2b6o4bo17bobo111bobobo4b2obobob2o80bo
b2o25b2o2bobob4o4bo4bo44bo$6b2o4bo2bo2bobo18b2o85b2o25b2ob4o6bobo86b3o
22bob2obobo3b3o2b2ob2o$18b2o106bobo26bo4b6o2bo79b7o2bo22bobo4b2ob2o2bo
bo$128bo26bobo2bo2bo4b2o78bo2bo2bo24b2ob4obobo2bobobo$126bob2o9b2o15b
2o122bobo6b4ob2o$124b3o2bo5b2o2b2o139bo2b6o4bo$123bo3bo6bobo142b2o4bo
2bo2bobo$123b4o2bo5bo155b2o$121b2o3bob2o$120bo2b3o2bo8b2o$120b2obob2ob
o8bo202bo8b2o$60b2o61bo3bob2o7b3o200b2o5bobo$59bobo61bo3bobo10bo198bo
2bo5bo$59bo61b2o2bobobo206b2obo2bo4b2obo$47b2o9b2obo60bob4o2b2o204b2ob
o2bo2bo4b3o$47b2o2b2o3bo4b3o58bobo3bobo209bobo2bob3o3bo$51bobo2bob3o3b
o56b2ob2ob2obo210bo3bo5b3o$52bo3bo5b3o57bo2bo3bo217b2obo3b2o$58b2obo3b
2o55bobob3o209b2o8bobob2o2bo15bo$49b2o8bobob2o2bo55bob2o212bo8bob2obob
2o15b2o$50bo8bob2obob2o60b3o205b3o7b2obobobo17bobo$47b3o7b2obobobo56b
7o2bo205bo10bobo2b2o$47bo10bobo2b2o56bo2bo2bo219bobobo2b2o$58bobobo2b
2o278b2o2b4obo$56b2o2b4obo280bobo5bo$57bobo5bo280bob3obob2o$57bob3obob
2o280bo4bobo$58bo4bobo282b3obobo$59b3obobo284b4o$61b4o281b3o$57b3o286b
o2b7o$57bo2b7o271bobo8bo2bo2bo23bo$60bo2bo2bo272b2o36bobo$339bo38b2o
16bo$396b3o$399bo$398b2o5$358b2o$357bobo$357bo$345b2o9b2obo$345b2o2b2o
3bo4b3o$349bobo2bob3o3bo$350bo3bo5b3o$356b2obo3b2o$347b2o8bobob2o2bo$
348bo8bob2obob2o$345b3o7b2obobobo$345bo10bobo2b2o$356bobobo2b2o$354b2o
2b4obo$355bobo5bo$355bob3obob2o$356bo4bobo$357b3obobo$359b4o$355b3o$
355bo2b7o$358bo2bo2bo2$411bo$412b2o$411b2o4$393b2o$394bo$394bobo$395b
2o15$439bo$438bobo$438b2o5$447bo$446bobo$447bo49$361b2o$360bobo$360bo$
359b2o4$386b2o$385bobo$385bo$384b2o24$543bo$543b3o$546bo$545b2o34$540b
2o$541bo$541bobo$542b2o15$586bo$585bobo$585b2o5$594bo$593bobo$594bo49$
508b2o$507bobo$507bo$506b2o4$533b2o$532bobo$532bo$531b2o!

[Kazyan]

Either way, I am looking more into supressors -- patterns and/or catalysts that change the period of a glider stream without changing their position (the position of the supressor components, not of the glider stream itself), useful for guns, but specially for GGG-esque oscillators since the result can be one extremely large period -- and the best, non-p30 multiple.

So you'd like to learn how to thin out glider streams? We often need to do that for p30 circuitry. The conventional method is to use oscillators that will not be in the same phase every time a glider passes by--and in one of those phases, a spark that can delete the glider will be present. Take a look at the p120 gun, for example:

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x = 40, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
37b2o$37bo$30bo4bobo$29bobo3b2o$12b2o15b2obo$12bobo14b2ob2o$3b2o2b2o6b
o13b2obo$3b2obo2bo2bo2bo13bobo4b2o$7b2o6bo8bo5bo5b2o$12bobo7bobo11b2o$
12b2o9b2o12bo$36bobo$35b2obo3$36b2o$36b2o2$9bobo$7bo3bo5b3o$2o5bo7bobo
2bo2b2o$2o4bo4bo7b2o2bo2bo$7bo19bo$7bo3bo2b3o10bo11bo$9bobo15bo9bobo$
23bo2bo6b2o3b2o$23b2o8bobo$35bo$35b2o!

See the blocker? (I don't call it that because it's blocking the stream; this oscillator's official name is "blocker".) Its one-cell spark is on the wrong side for every odd glider, but it deletes every even glider. Normally, this gun would be p60, but the blocker makes it p120.

The alternative is using Guam's "semi-snark". This piece of tech can double the period of any sufficiently-thin glider stream:

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x = 46, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
4$8bo$9bo$7b3o18$28bo$29bo9b2o$27b3o9bo$37bobo$37b2o2$22b2o$22b2o2$31b
2o$31b2o6b2o$39b2o3$27bo$26bobo$26b2o6b2o$34bo$35b3o$37bo!

[Gustavo6046]

Either way, I am looking more into supressors -- patterns and/or catalysts that change the period of a glider stream without changing their position (the position of the supressor components, not of the glider stream itself), useful for guns, but specially for GGG-esque oscillators since the result can be one extremely large period -- and the best, non-p30 multiple.

So you'd like to learn how to thin out glider streams? We often need to do that for p30 circuitry. The conventional method is to use oscillators that will not be in the same phase every time a glider passes by--and in one of those phases, a spark that can delete the glider will be present. Take a look at the p120 gun, for example:

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x = 40, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
37b2o$37bo$30bo4bobo$29bobo3b2o$12b2o15b2obo$12bobo14b2ob2o$3b2o2b2o6b
o13b2obo$3b2obo2bo2bo2bo13bobo4b2o$7b2o6bo8bo5bo5b2o$12bobo7bobo11b2o$
12b2o9b2o12bo$36bobo$35b2obo3$36b2o$36b2o2$9bobo$7bo3bo5b3o$2o5bo7bobo
2bo2b2o$2o4bo4bo7b2o2bo2bo$7bo19bo$7bo3bo2b3o10bo11bo$9bobo15bo9bobo$
23bo2bo6b2o3b2o$23b2o8bobo$35bo$35b2o!

See the blocker? (I don't call it that because it's blocking the stream; this oscillator's official name is "blocker".) Its one-cell spark is on the wrong side for every odd glider, but it deletes every even glider. Normally, this gun would be p60, but the blocker makes it p120.

The alternative is using Guam's "semi-snark". This piece of tech can double the period of any sufficiently-thin glider stream:

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x = 46, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
4$8bo$9bo$7b3o18$28bo$29bo9b2o$27b3o9bo$37bobo$37b2o2$22b2o$22b2o2$31b
2o$31b2o6b2o$39b2o3$27bo$26bobo$26b2o6b2o$34bo$35b3o$37bo!

I meant, not to multiply them, but to change the period ridicularly! So that it gets somewhat like p542 from an p30 gun, and so on. So... now yeah.
I found a new p12!

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x = 21, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18bobo$15b2obobo$7b2o6bobobo$6bo2bo7bo$5bobobo5bo2bo$5bobob2o7bo
$3b2obobo3bobo3bo$3bo2bo2b2obo5bo$2obobobo4bo2bo2bo$o2b2o2bob2o6bo$b2o
3bo2bo5bobobo$3b2ob2obo5b2obobo$3bo4bo9bobo$4b4o10b2o2$4b2o$4b2o!

Put in Jason's Oscillizer and get FANTASTIC results!

[simsim314]

I just want to point out the total ignorance of dvgrn challenge posted above - and my prediction of continuation as if nothing happen into new totally pointless design of something else.

I think I quit from this thread and will recommend anyone else to do the same until Gustavo will stop ignoring anything we say.

Gustavo please read and respond to dvgrn challenge.

viewtopic.php?p=17848#p17848

[Gustavo6046]

I can't do the challenge, since every G3 synthesis have been already made, you said, and I now focusing in ways of doing an p600 gun, but I found a way using karel's 15 and a period 200 gun, I only need the p200 gun...

[towerator]

I can't do the challenge, since every G3 synthesis have been already made, you said, and I now focusing in ways of doing an p600 gun, but I found a way using karel's 15 and a period 200 gun, I only need the p200 gun...

We THOUGHT you would get it, Gustavo. I must admit I'm disappointed.

[simsim314]

I can't do the challenge, since every G3 synthesis have been already made

Anyone can see the logic here?

Gustavo it's a trivial challenge.

[Gustavo6046]

Nope to either of the tries. Think before saying something, I am right now busy in one much more important thing, which involves an one-glider producing reaction, one way of synthesizing it using other guns and my guess is it will chop out a HUGE load from last days.
Either way, the reaction I said is the following, which proven to be promising:

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x = 173, y = 147, rule = B3/S23
160bobo$160b2o$161bo3$170bobo$170b2o$171bo10$158bobo$158b2o$159bo13$
146bobo$146b2o$147bo38$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o26$12bo$11bobo$11b2o2$2o6bo$2o6b
2o2b3o$8bo2$11b2o$11bobo$12bo32$42b2o$43bo$40b3o$40bo!

Again, we only need the right guns to do the synthesis for the reaction components... I am way too occupied for such challenges, there might be no use to an pond-and-glider synthesis anyway.
EDIT: Another candidate:

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x = 357, y = 320, rule = B3/S23
345bo$344bo$344b3o3$355bo$354bo$354b3o10$343bo$342bo$342b3o13$331bo$
330bo$330b3o26$197b2o$198bo$198bobo$199b2o20$208b2o$207bo2bo$208bobo$
209bo6$213b3o$197b2o$197b2o2$213b3o6$209bo$208bobo$207bo2bo$208b2o11$
231bo$231bo$231bo6$236b2o$235bobo$234bobo$235bo$232b3o$232bo2$239b2o$
240bo$237b3o$237bo129$23b3o$25bo$14b2o8bo$15b2o$14bo6$26b2o$25bobo$27b
o15$81b2o18b2o$80bobo17bobo$82bo19bo18$4b2o$5b2o$4bo11b2o$15bobo$2o15b
o$b2o$o$11b2o$12b2o$11bo!

And please don't get with it again... it is useless!

[Gustavo6046]

I am doing now a p960 glider gun, and later will do a p960 (or such) LWSS gun...
Finally!!! Contemplate... the p960 GUN!!!!
With three more we do a LWSS gun...

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x = 328, y = 255, rule = B3/S23
306b2o$306b2o2$320b2o$320b2o5$306bo13bo$305b3o10b2ob2o$304b5o$303b2o3b
2o7bo5bo2$317b2obob2o2$305b3o$305b3o14bo$161b2o156bo2bo$161bo142bo17bo
$150b2o7bobo141bobo12b2o$150bobo6b2o46b2o93bo3bo11bo$137bobo13bo54bo
94b3o12bobo$136bo2bo2b2o6bo2bo54bobo7b2o81b2o3b2o4bo6b2o$127b2o6b2o5bo
bo8bo55b2o6bobo90bobo$127b2o4b2o3bo3bo3bo3bobo7b2o54bo13bobo78b2o$135b
2o5b3ob2o2b2o8b2o54bo2bo6b2o2bo2bo85b2o3b2o$136bo2bo3b2o15b2o54bo8bobo
5b2o6b2o76bo5bo$137bobo21bo46b2o7bobo3bo3bo3bo3b2o4b2o69bo$160bobo45b
2o8b2o2b2ob3o5b2o77bobo5bo3bo$159b2obo45b2o15b2o3bo2bo78b2o7b3o$153bo
54bo21bobo$151bobo53bobo$147b2o3b2o6b2o45bob2o90b2o$146bobo11b2o54bo
85bo$148bo67bobo80b3o13b2o7b2o$137bo70b2o6b2o3b2o76bo11b2o2b2o2b2o3bo$
136b4o68b2o11bobo87b2o2bo2bobo4b3o$124b2o9b2obobo6bobo71bo95b3o7bo$
124b2o8b3obo2bo3bo3bo82bo84b2o$135b2obobo4bo84b4o$136b4o4bo4bo70bobo6b
obob2o9b2o$137bo7bo74bo3bo3bo2bob3o8b2o$145bo3bo7b2o65bo4bobob2o$147bo
bo7bobo60bo4bo4b4o$159bo64bo7bo$159b2o50b2o7bo3bo$210bobo7bobo$210bo$
209b2o2$37b2o$37bo$28b2o5bobo$27bobo5b2o46b2o$13bo12b3o55bo$13b4o8b3o
56bobo5b2o$3b2o9b4o8b3o56b2o5bobo$3b2o9bo2bo9bobo6b2o55b3o12bo173bo$8b
o5b4o10b2o6bobo55b3o8b4o173bobo$8bo4b4o8bo11b3o53b3o8b4o9b2o163b2o$13b
o12bo11b2o44b2o6bobo9bo2bo9b2o64bo95b2o$24b3o8b2o46bobo6b2o10b4o5bo67b
obo95bobo$35b3o44b3o11bo8b4o4bo68b2o95bo$82b2o11bo12bo77bo$85b2o8b3o
88bobo$36b2o46b3o99b2o$36b2o2$8b2o74b2o$6bo3bo5bo2b3o62b2o$2o3bo5bo9bo
3bo$2o2b2obo3bo8bo4bobo84b2o$5bo5bo16b2o70b3o2bo5bo3bo$6bo3bo17b2o66bo
3bo9bo5bo3b2o$8b2o18b2o64bobo4bo8bo3bob2o2b2o$25bobo5b2o57b2o16bo5bo$
25bo7bobo56b2o17bo3bo$35bo56b2o18b2o$35b2o50b2o5bobo$86bobo7bo$86bo$
85b2o227b2o$314b3o7bo$308b2o2bo2bobo4b3o$296bo11b2o2b2o2b2o3bo$296b3o
13b2o7b2o$299bo$252bo45b2o$252bobo$55bo196b2o$56bo156bo95b2o7b3o$54b3o
154bobo95bobo5bo3bo$66bo145b2o95bo$65bo250bo5bo$65b3o248b2o3b2o$308b2o
$307bobo$298b2o3b2o4bo6b2o$61b2o237b3o12bobo$61b2o236bo3bo11bo$300bobo
12b2o$301bo17bo$316bo2bo$302b3o14bo$302b3o2$314b2obob2o2$300b2o3b2o7bo
5bo$301b5o$302b3o10b2ob2o$303bo13bo5$317b2o$317b2o2$303b2o$303b2o12$
41b2o$41b2o2$27b2o$27bo2bo$41b3o$31bo9b3o$40bo3bo$29b2o8bo5bo$28bo11bo
3bo$41b3o2$25b2o3b2o$25b2o3b2o$26b5o$27bobo12bobo147bo$41bo2bo147bobo$
27b3o9bob2o72bo76b2o$116bo$42bo71b3o$39b2obo$41bo2$31bo$32bo8b2o3b2o$
30b3o9b5o$26bo15b2ob2o$25b3o14b2ob2o$24b5o14b3o$23b2o3b2o3$27bo$27bo
18b2o$46bo$23b2o8bo13b3o$24bo3b3ob2o2b2o11bo$21b3o4b4o4b2o$21bo10b2o
15$61bo$62bo$60b3o4$66b2o$66b2o6$57b3o$59bo$58bo15$18bo10b2o$18b3o4b4o
4b2o$21bo3b3ob2o2b2o11bo$20b2o8bo13b3o$43bo$24bo18b2o$24bo3$20b2o3b2o$
21b5o14b3o$22b3o14b2ob2o$23bo15b2ob2o$27b3o9b5o$29bo8b2o3b2o$28bo2$38b
o$36b2obo$39bo2$24b3o9bob2o$38bo2bo$24bobo12bobo$23b5o$22b2o3b2o$22b2o
3b2o2$38b3o$25bo11bo3bo$26b2o8bo5bo$37bo3bo$28bo9b3o$38b3o$24bo2bo$24b
2o2$38b2o$38b2o!

[towerator]

Or, to avoid using many, many trivial componements in an non-optimized gun, you could do this:

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x = 67, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
$60b2o$62bob2o$58bo2bo2b2o$58bobo$59bo$24bo$23b2o34b2o$7b2o13b2o4b2o
29b2o$7b3o11b3o4b2o2b2o$2b2o5b2obo9b2o4b2o2b2o$bo2bo4bo2bo10b2o28b3o$
2b2o5b2obo11bo27bo3bo$7b3o10bo$3bo3b2o9bobo30bo5bo$2bobo14b2o30b2o3b2o
$2bobo$3bo3$2obob2o20bo$o5bo21bo22b2o$bo3bo20b3o23bo$2b3o26b2o16b3o$
30bobo16bo10bo$32bo25b3o$57bo$57b2o$55b3o$54bobo$53bo3bo$3b2o18b3o27b
5o$3b2o7bo12bo26b2o3b2o$12b4o8bo28b5o$13b4o10b2o25b3o$13bo2bo9bobo26bo
$13b4o8b3o4b2ob3o$4b2o6b4o8b3o4bo2b4o$3bobo6bo12b3o4b2o$3bo22bobo$2b2o
23b2o31b2o$60b2o$60b2o$33b2o3bo2bo3b2o13bo$33b5o4b5o12bobo$33b2o3bo2bo
3b2o13bobob3o$61bob4o$62bo!

I suggest you to also download the gun collection of Jason Summer's page (there are thousands of guns for each period)

[Kazyan]

Look like he's figuring out how to make gliders do what he wants, which is good.

[mniemiec]

I can't do the challenge, since every G3 synthesis have been already made

All (well, almost all) 3-glider collisions have been tried, and those that produce still-lifes and oscillators have been noted. Not so much for pseudo-still-lifes and constellations, especially those that produce methuselahs that leave large quantities of ash.

Besides, just because somebody has done something before, it doesn't mean that somebody else can't do it again. All it means is that it isn't NOTABLE the second time. For example, if the challenge had been "find a 2-glider collision to make an eater", that takes a little bit of work, even if many people have done it many times over the past 40 years. (In fact, you did just this same thing recently).

[Gustavo6046]

Look like he's figuring out how to make gliders do what he wants, which is good.

For example, I figured out how to do a LWSS p960 gun:

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x = 760, y = 811, rule = B3/S23
379b3o$378bo2bo$381bo$381bo$378bobo63$723b2o$723b2o2$737b2o$737b2o$
737b2o$722b3o12bo$722b3o11bobo$721bo3bo10bobo$737bo$720b2o3b2o2$734b2o
3b2o$734bobobobo$735b5o$720b3o13b3o$37b2o685b2o11bo$37bo686b2o$30bo4bo
bo540b2o145b2o$29b4ob3o46b2o493bo144bobo$12b2o14b2obob2o49bo485bo5bobo
144b2o$4bo7bo2bo11b3obo2bo49bobo4bo478bobo3b2o46b2o$3bo3b2o7bo11b2obob
o51b3ob4o460bo17bobo51bo$3bo5bo6bo12b4o3b2o49b2obob2o14b2o443b2o16bo2b
o50bobo5bo84b2o3b2o9bobo$4b5o7bo7bo5bo5b2o49bo2bob3o11bo2bo7bo426b2o2b
2o4b2o15bobo52b2o3bobo84b2o3b2o9b2o$12bo2bo9bo62bobob2o11bo7b2o3bo425b
2o2b2o4b3o13bobo4b2o51bobo17bo79bo4bo$12b2o9b3o58b2o3b4o12bo6bo5bo429b
2o4b2o7bobo4bo5bo2bo49bo2bo16b2o69b3o8b2o$35bob2o45b2o5bo5bo7bo7b5o
435b2o9b2o13bo50bobo15b2o4b2o2b2o60b3o7b2o$26b2o7bobo58bo9bo2bo443bo
10bo14bo45b2o4bobo13b3o4b2o2b2o61bo16b3o$25bobo8bo59b3o9b2o466b2obo44b
o2bo5bo4bobo7b2o4b2o81bo3bo$27bo8b2o45b2obo489b2o46bo13b2o9b2o77bo7bo
5bo$36b2o46bobo7b2o470b2o56bo14bo10bo75b2o9bo3bo$32bo3b2o47bo8bobo470b
2o55bob2o99b2o9b3o$30bobo51b2o8bo471bo4bo5b2o47b2o90b2o18b3o$9bo8b2o
11b2o51b2o486b2o3b2o57b2o81bo$7bobo6bo2bo64b2o3bo481b2o62b2o79b3o13b2o
7b2o$2o4bobo7bo3bo2b2o64bobo460bo72b2o5bo4bo78bo11b2obo2bob2o3bo$2o3bo
2bo7bo2b2o2b3o63b2o11b2o8bo436b4o3bob2o65b2o3b2o96b2o2bo4bo4b3o$6bobo
16b2obo73bo2bo6bobo426b2o5b4o4bobob2o2b2o65b2o100bo10bo$7bobo4b3o8bo2b
o68b2o2bo3bo7bobo4b2o419b2o5bo2bo3b2obob2o2bobo84bo82bobo$9bo15b2obo
67b3o2b2o2bo7bo2bo3b2o426b4o3b2o8b3o76b2obo3b4o$23b3o7b2o58bob2o16bobo
433b4o3b2o8b3o69b2o2b2obobo4b4o5b2o$23b2o8bobo57bo2bo8b3o4bobo437bo12b
3o69bobo2b2obob2o3bo2bo5b2o$35bo57bob2o15bo451bobo7b2o60b3o8b2o3b4o$
35b2o50b2o7b3o465b2o8bobo58b3o8b2o3b4o$86bobo8b2o477bo59b3o12bo$86bo
489b2o50b2o7bobo$85b2o540bobo8b2o$627bo$626b2o2$454b2o$454bo$442bo9bob
o$441bobo8b2o46b2o$431b2o7bob2o57bo$430bobo6b2ob2o57bobo9bo$420b2o7bo
6b3obob2o58b2o8bobo$420b2o7bo2bo2bo2bo2bobo9b2o57b2obo7b2o$429bo6b2o4b
o10bo2bo55b2ob2o6bobo$430bobo79b2obob3o6bo7b2o162bo$431b2o20bo2bo44b2o
9bobo2bo2bo2bo2bo7b2o160b2o$62bo389bo2bo43bo2bo10bo4b2o6bo170b2o$60bob
o380bobo6bobo68bobo75bo$61b2o381b2o7bo45bo2bo20b2o77b2o$444bo55bo2bo
97b2o$453b2o46bobo6bobo$439bo13b2o47bo7b2o$439b2o70bo$427bobo8bobo60b
2o$427bo3bo69b2o13bo$417b2o12bo10b2o71b2o$417b2o8bo4bo7bo2bo71bobo8bob
o$431bo7bo7b2o75bo3bo$427bo3bo7bo6bo65b2o10bo12b2o$427bobo9bo72bo2bo7b
o4bo8b2o$440bo2bo6b2o55b2o7bo7bo$442b2o6bobo56bo6bo7bo3bo$452bo63bo9bo
bo$452b2o50b2o6bo2bo$503bobo6b2o$503bo$502b2o227bobo$730bo10bo$725b2o
2bo4bo4b3o$713bo11b2obo2bob2o3bo$713b3o13b2o7b2o$716bo$715b2o18b3o$
724b2o9b3o$723b2o9bo3bo$725bo7bo5bo$734bo3bo$473bobo242bo16b3o$474b2o
241b3o7b2o$474bo242b3o8b2o$480bobo244bo4bo$480b2o233b2o3b2o9b2o$41b2o
438bo233b2o3b2o9bobo$41b2o2$27b2o691b2o$27b2o691bobo$722b2o$28bo13bo
678b2o$27bobo10b2ob2o676b2o11bo$27bobo687b3o13b3o$28bo10bo5bo686b5o$
731bobobobo$39b2obob2o685b2o3b2o$25b2obob2o$25bo5bo685b2o3b2o$26bo3bo
13bo689bo$27b3o11bo2bo673bo3bo10bobo$44bo674b3o11bobo$40b2o677b3o12bo$
40bo693b2o$40bobo691b2o$41b2o691b2o2$30bo607bo81b2o$31bo9b2o3b2o588b2o
82b2o$29b3o9bo5bo74bo514b2o$34bo85bobo380bobo$34bobo5bo3bo74b2o381b2o$
34b2o7b3o458bo2$24b5o$23bob3obo8bo$24bo3bo7bobo$25b3o9b2o$26bo19b2o$
46bo$23b2o7b2o13b3o408b2o$24bo3b2o2b2o2b2o11bo408b2o$21b3o4bobo2bo2b2o
$21bo7b3o412b2o$30b2o412b2o15bo$460bo$460bo3$456b2o3b2o$459bo$456bo5bo
$457b2ob2o$444b3o11bobo67b2o$443bo3bo11bo68b2o$442bo5bo10bo$442bo5bo$
445bo$443bo3bo$444b3o$445bo$455bobo$455b2o$442b3o11bo3b3o$64b2o376b3o
14bo3bo$63bobo375bo3bo12bo5bo$65bo383bobo6b2obob2o$440b2o3b2o3b2o$450b
o$461bo$460bobo$460bobo$461b3o$463b2o42bo$463bo43b2o$440b2o4bo2b2o13b
3o39bobo$441bo3bo3b2o2b2o11bo$438b3o4bo7b2o$438bo7b4o9$27b2o$18bo7b3o$
18b3o4bobo2bo2b2o$21bo3b2o2b2o2b2o11bo$20b2o7b2o13b3o$43bo$23bo19b2o$
22b3o9b2o$21bo3bo7bobo$20bob3obo8bo443bobo87b2o$21b5o163b2o289b2o87b2o
$189b2o289bo$31b2o7b3o$31bobo5bo3bo$31bo$26b3o9bo5bo$28bo9b2o3b2o432bo
$27bo449b2o$476bobo$38b2o$37bobo$37bo$37b2o$41bo$24b3o11bo2bo$23bo3bo
13bo$22bo5bo$22b2obob2o$36b2obob2o2$25bo10bo5bo$24bobo$24bobo10b2ob2o$
25bo13bo2$24b2o$24b2o409bo7b4o$435b3o4bo7b2o$38b2o398bo3bo3b2o2b2o11bo
$38b2o397b2o4bo2b2o13b3o$460bo$460b2o$74b2o382b3o$74b2o381bobo$457bobo
$60b2o396bo$60b2o385bo$437b2o3b2o3b2o$446bobo6b2obob2o$438bo3bo12bo5bo
$439b3o14bo3bo$146b2o291b3o11bo3b3o$146b2o304b2o$61bo10b2o3b2o373bobo$
60b3o379bo$59b5o9bo3bo363b3o$58bobobobo9b3o363bo3bo$58b2o3b2o9b3o365bo
$439bo5bo$439bo5bo10bo$61bo378bo3bo11bo$60bobo378b3o11bobo$59b2obo391b
2ob2o$59b3o9bo5bo375bo5bo$58bo2bo8bo5b3o377bo$58b3o9b3o3b3o374b2o3b2o$
57bo3bo$56bo5bo11b2o3b2o$57bo3bo5bo6b2o3b2o376bo$58b3o7bo388bo$66b3o
372b2o15bo$441b2o$76b2o88b3o$166bo288b2o$167bo287b2o$79b2o42b3o$79bo
45bo$56b2o7b2o13b3o41bo$57bo3b2o4b4o11bo$54b3o4b2o2b2ob3o$54bo10bo18$
97bo$98bo90b3o$96b3o92bo$190bo$196b3o$196bo$197bo$93b3o$95bo$94bo7$
168b2o$168bo$158b2o5b2obo$157bobo7bo50b2o$143bo12b3o4bo55bo$138bo4b4o
8b3o4bo2bo53bob2o5b2o$138bo5b4o8b3o4b2o55bo7bobo$133b2o9bo2bo9bobo64bo
4b3o12bo$133b2o9b4o10b2o62bo2bo4b3o8b4o4bo$143b4o8bo67b2o4b3o8b4o5bo$
143bo12bo71bobo9bo2bo9b2o$51bo10bo91b3o71b2o10b4o9b2o$51b3o4b2o2b2ob3o
101b2o61bo8b4o$54bo3b2o4b4o11bo89b2o60bo12bo$53b2o7b2o13b3o151b3o$76bo
82b3o55b2o$76b2o83bo6b3o46b2o$160bo7b2o$148bo22b2o53b3o$73b2o72b2o21b
3o44b3o6bo$146b2o4b2o5bo9bobo46b2o7bo$63b3o70b2o7b3o4b2o3bobo9b2o44b2o
22bo$55b3o7bo70b2o8b2o4b2o2bobo56b3o21b2o$54bo3bo5bo6b2o3b2o69b2o6bo2b
o57bobo9bo5b2o4b2o$53bo5bo11b2o3b2o70bo7bobo58b2o9bobo3b2o4b3o7b2o$54b
o3bo98bobo8b2o59bobo2b2o4b2o8b2o$55b3o9b3o3b3o83bo8bobo58bo2bo6b2o$55b
o2bo8bo5b3o94bo58bobo7bo$56b3o9bo5bo95b2o46b2o8bobo$56b2obo157bobo8bo$
57bobo157bo$58bo157b2o3$55b2o3b2o9b3o$55bobobobo9b3o$56b5o9bo3bo$57b3o
$58bo10b2o3b2o7$57b2o$57b2o2$71b2o$71b2o17$398bo$396b2o$362bo34b2o$
360bobo$361b2o31$397b2o$397bobo$397bo19$687b2o$687b2o2$701b2o$701b2o7$
684b2o3b2o10bo$700b3o$685bo3bo9b5o$686b3o9bobobobo$686b3o9b2o3b2o3$
542b2o157bo$542bo157bobo$531bo8bobo157bob2o$529bobo8b2o46b2o95bo5bo9b
3o$520bo7bobo58bo94b3o5bo8bo2bo$519b2o6bo2bo58bobo8bo83b3o3b3o9b3o$
508b2o8b2o4b2o2bobo59b2o8bobo98bo3bo$508b2o7b3o4b2o3bobo9b2o58bobo7bo
70b2o3b2o11bo5bo$518b2o4b2o5bo9bobo57bo2bo6b2o69b2o3b2o6bo5bo3bo$519b
2o21b3o56bobo2b2o4b2o8b2o70bo7b3o$520bo22b2o44b2o9bobo3b2o4b3o7b2o70b
3o$532bo7b2o46bobo9bo5b2o4b2o$533bo6b3o44b3o21b2o72b2o$531b3o53b2o22bo
$590b2o7bo$541b2o46b3o6bo83b2o$541b2o55b3o82bo$526b3o151b3o13b2o7b2o$
515bo12bo60b2o89bo11b4o4b2o3bo$515b4o8bo61b2o101b3ob2o2b2o4b3o$505b2o
9b4o10b2o71b3o91bo10bo$505b2o9bo2bo9bobo71bo12bo$510bo5b4o8b3o4b2o67bo
8b4o$510bo4b4o8b3o4bo2bo62b2o10b4o9b2o$515bo12b3o4bo64bobo9bo2bo9b2o$
529bobo7bo55b2o4b3o8b4o5bo$530b2o5b2obo53bo2bo4b3o8b4o4bo$540bo55bo4b
3o12bo$540b2o50bo7bobo$591bob2o5b2o$591bo$590b2o7$665bo$664bo$664b3o$
562bo$563bo$561b3o$569bo$568bo92b3o$568b3o90bo$662bo18$694bo10bo$689b
3ob2o2b2o4b3o$677bo11b4o4b2o3bo$635bo41b3o13b2o7b2o$634bo45bo$634b3o
42b2o$592bo$593bo$591b3o88b2o2$691b3o$691bo7b3o$679b2o3b2o6bo5bo3bo$
679b2o3b2o11bo5bo$698bo3bo$681b3o3b3o9b3o$681b3o5bo8bo2bo$682bo5bo9b3o
$697bob2o$697bobo$698bo3$683b3o9b2o3b2o$683b3o9bobobobo$682bo3bo9b5o$
697b3o$681b2o3b2o10bo$612b2o$612b2o5$698b2o$698b2o2$684b2o$684b2o3$
720b2o$720b2o2$734b2o$734b2o2$720bo13bo$718b2ob2o10bobo$733bobo$717bo
5bo10bo2$717b2obob2o$731b2obob2o$731bo5bo$718bo13bo3bo$718bo2bo11b3o$
718bo$721b2o$722bo$720bobo$720b2o2$732bo$715b2o3b2o9bo$715bo5bo9b3o$
728bo$716bo3bo5bobo$717b3o7b2o$569b2o$569b2o163b5o$724bo8bob3obo$724bo
bo7bo3bo$724b2o9b3o$715b2o19bo$716bo$713b3o13b2o7b2o$713bo11b2o2b2o2b
2o3bo$725b2o2bo2bobo4b3o$731b3o7bo$731b2o21$694bo$694bobo$694b2o20$
728b2o$728b3o7bo$722b2o2bo2bobo4b3o$710bo11b2o2b2o2b2o3bo$710b3o13b2o
7b2o$713bo$712b2o19bo$721b2o9b3o$721bobo7bo3bo$721bo8bob3obo$731b5o2$
714b3o7b2o$637b2o74bo3bo5bobo$637bobo85bo$637bo74bo5bo9b3o$712b2o3b2o
9bo$729bo2$717b2o$717bobo$719bo$718b2o$715bo$715bo2bo11b3o$715bo13bo3b
o$728bo5bo$728b2obob2o$714b2obob2o2$714bo5bo10bo$730bobo$715b2ob2o10bo
bo$717bo13bo2$731b2o$731b2o2$717b2o$717b2o34$697b2o$697bobo$697bo15$
673b2o$673bo$661b2o8bobo$661b3o7b2o50b2o$647bo15b2obo57bo$645bobo4b3o
8bo2bo57bobo8b2o$644bobo16b2obo58b2o7b3o$638b2o3bo2bo7bo2b2o2b3o67bob
2o15bo$638b2o4bobo7bo3bo2b2o68bo2bo8b3o4bobo$645bobo6bo2bo73bob2o16bob
o$647bo8b2o11b2o63b3o2b2o2bo7bo2bo3b2o$668bobo64b2o2bo3bo7bobo4b2o$
670bo3b2o64bo2bo6bobo$674b2o51b2o11b2o8bo$665bo8b2o51bobo$663bobo8bo
47b2o3bo$664b2o7bobo46b2o$673bob2o45b2o8bo$650b2o9b3o59bo8bobo$650bo2b
o9bo58bobo7b2o$642b5o7bo7bo5bo5b2o45b2obo$641bo5bo6bo12b4o3b2o58b3o9b
2o$641bo3b2o7bo11b2obobo62bo9bo2bo$642bo7bo2bo11b3obo2bo49b2o5bo5bo7bo
7b5o$650b2o14b2obob2o49b2o3b4o12bo6bo5bo$667b4ob3o51bobob2o11bo7b2o3bo
$668bo4bobo49bo2bob3o11bo2bo7bo$675bo49b2obob2o14b2o$675b2o46b3ob4o$
722bobo4bo$722bo$721b2o!

Do you know the magic involved in how the gliders do that?

[Gustavo6046]

Or, to avoid using many, many trivial componements in an non-optimized gun, you could do this:

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x = 67, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
$60b2o$62bob2o$58bo2bo2b2o$58bobo$59bo$24bo$23b2o34b2o$7b2o13b2o4b2o
29b2o$7b3o11b3o4b2o2b2o$2b2o5b2obo9b2o4b2o2b2o$bo2bo4bo2bo10b2o28b3o$
2b2o5b2obo11bo27bo3bo$7b3o10bo$3bo3b2o9bobo30bo5bo$2bobo14b2o30b2o3b2o
$2bobo$3bo3$2obob2o20bo$o5bo21bo22b2o$bo3bo20b3o23bo$2b3o26b2o16b3o$
30bobo16bo10bo$32bo25b3o$57bo$57b2o$55b3o$54bobo$53bo3bo$3b2o18b3o27b
5o$3b2o7bo12bo26b2o3b2o$12b4o8bo28b5o$13b4o10b2o25b3o$13bo2bo9bobo26bo
$13b4o8b3o4b2ob3o$4b2o6b4o8b3o4bo2b4o$3bobo6bo12b3o4b2o$3bo22bobo$2b2o
23b2o31b2o$60b2o$60b2o$33b2o3bo2bo3b2o13bo$33b5o4b5o12bobo$33b2o3bo2bo
3b2o13bobob3o$61bob4o$62bo!

I suggest you to also download the gun collection of Jason Summer's page (there are thousands of guns for each period)

Oh, sorry I almost didn't read that. I already have jslife and no, it don't have that many guns of the period I most needed some time ago. Anyway here is the LWSS gun in p960 when I use THAT gun:

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x = 246, y = 209, rule = B3/S23
14$172bo$170bobo$154bo13b2o$154b3o5b2o4b2o$157bo4b2o4b2o$156b2o12bobo$
69b2o101bo$69b2o2b2o$67b2obo2b2o108bo$67b3o112b3o$181b5o$32b2o5bo119bo
20b2o3b2o$31b3o3bo3bo26b2o88b3o20b5o$19bo8bob2o5bo30b2o87b5o19bo3bo$
19bobo6bo2bo4bo5bo20bo92b2o3b2o19bobo$20bobo5bob2o9b2o18b2ob2o117bo$
11b2o7bo2bo7b3o$20bobo9b2o26bo5bo$19bobo136b3o24bo$19bo9bo30b2obob2o
91b3o22b2ob2o$14bo15b2o146bo$13bo15b2o126bo19bo4bo5bo$13bo142bobo18b3o
$155bo3bo22b2obob2o$35b2o119b3o$9b2o3b2o19b2o117b2o3b2o4bo$12bo28bo18b
2o101bobo8b2o$9bo5bo26bo18bo102b2o8b2o$10b2ob2o25b3o15b3o$11bobo44bo
10bo$12bo54b3o$12bo53bo$66b2o102bobo11b2o$170b2o12b2o$34bo115bo20bo$
34b2o113b3o$12b2o19bobo112b5o4b2o$12b2o10bo132b2o$23bobo35b2o3b2o$22bo
3b2o8bo24bo5bo$22bo3b2o5b4o$22bo3b2o4b4o9b2o15bo3bo$13b2o8bobo6bo2bo9b
2o16b3o$12bobo9bo7b4o5bo106b5o$12bo20b4o4bo107b3o$11b2o23bo32b2o79bo$
69b2o$46b6o$45bo6bo16bo$44bo8bo14bobo99b2o$45bo6bo15bo2bo2b2o95bo$46b
6o20bob2o95bobo9bo$70b2o87bobo10b2o8bobo$158bo2bo20b2obo$157b2o23b2ob
2o$155b2o3bo21b2obo$157b2o23bobo$158bo2bo5b2o14bo$151b2o6bobo5bobo17b
4o$150b4o15bo16bo4bo$149bo2bobo14b2o15bo3bobo$148bobo2b2o32bo3bobo$
147bobo43bo$146b2o45bo$146b3o41bo2bo$147bobo41b2o$148b2o27$210bo2bo$
214bo$210bo3bo$211b4o43$134b2o$130b2obo20b6o$130b2o2bo2bo15bo6bo$135bo
bo14bo8bo$136bo16bo6bo$154b6o$135b2o$135b2o32bo23b2o$164bo4b4o20bo$
164bo5b4o7bo9bobo$140b3o16b2o9bo2bo6bobo8b2o$139bo3bo15b2o9b4o4b2o3bo$
169b4o5b2o3bo$138bo5bo24bo8b2o3bo$138b2o3b2o35bobo$181bo10b2o$170bobo
19b2o$170b2o$171bo2$138b2o$139bo53bo$136b3o54bo$136bo10bo44bobo$145b3o
15b3o25b2ob2o$144bo18bo26bo5bo$144b2o18bo28bo$169b2o19b2o3b2o$169b2o2$
192bo$175b2o15bo$174b2o15bo$139b2obob2o30bo9bo$184bobo$139bo5bo26b2o9b
obo$172b3o7bo2bo7b2o$140b2ob2o18b2o9b2obo5bobo$142bo20bo5bo4bo2bo6bobo
$136b2o30bo5b2obo8bo$136b2o26bo3bo3b3o$166bo5b2o2$136b3o$131b2o2bob2o$
131b2o2b2o$135b2o!

[Kazyan]

Look like he's figuring out how to make gliders do what he wants, which is good.

For example, I figured out how to do a LWSS p960 gun:

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RLE

Do you know the magic involved in how the gliders do that?

See, you're getting it. There's no magic in the synthesis--it's just that a LWSS shows up every once in a while from soup, and there are a lot of ways to ram 3 gliders together, so there's bound to be one that makes a LWSS.

Here's a pseudo-period p26 gun. It involves a tricky oscillator that, when combined with two gliders, makes a LWSS. How about you try using that oscillator to make a p960 LWSS gun with only two p960 glider guns?

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x = 150, y = 136, rule = B3/S23
66b2o$45b2o8b2o9b2o$44bo2bo3b2o4b4o$43bobobo3b2o2b2ob3o19bo9b2o$42b3ob
o8bo9b3o8b2o2b2ob3o3bo2bo$42b3o20bo2bo7b2o4b4o3bobobo$66b2obo10b2o8bob
3o$69bo22b3o$68b3o$65b3obo$55b2o9b3o$55b2o10bo$80b2o$80b2o5$42bo$41bob
o$42bo15bo15b2o18bo$20bo9b2o13bo11bobo13bobo17bobo$16b2o2b2ob3o3bo2bo
12bobo10bo15bo3bo15bo$16b2o4b4o3bobobo11b2o3b2o25bobo$20b2o8bob3o15bob
o25bo6bo6bo$32b3o7b2o7b2o31b3o3bo$43bo8bo33bo4bo2bo$40b3o8bobo40bo$40b
o11b2o39bo$44b2o6bo19bo3b2o16b3o$20b2o22b2o20bob2o2bo3bobo3b2o12bo$20b
2o44bo11bo4bo7b2o$16bo49b5o7b2o3bo7b2o$16b3o33b2o14b2o$19bo31bo18bobo$
18b2o36b3o8bob2o$44b2o8bob3o7bobo$23b3o14b2o4b4o3bobobo7bo2bo2b2o5b3o$
25bo8bo5b2o2b2ob3o3bo2bo8bo2bo9b3obo8bo$23bobo7bobo8bo9b2o10bo2bo9bobo
bo3b2o2b2ob3o$18bo15bo24b2o5bo2bo10bo2bo3b2o4b4o$17bobo5b3obo30bo6b3o
11b2o8b2o$18bo5b3o33bobo$24b2o3bo31b2o$23bo5bo4$24b2o2bo50b2o$25b3o3b
2o46bo$26bo4b2o44bobo$77b2o3$81bo49b2o8b2o$18b3o59bobo40bo7bo9b2o$18b
3obo8bo48bobo25b2o12bobo4bobo9b2o$19bobobo3b2o2b2ob3o42b2ob3o22b3o13bo
5b2o11bo$20bo2bo3b2o4b4o48bo20bob2o23b2o6bobo$21b2o8b2o46b2ob3o20bobo
25b2o5b2obo$79b2obo22bo2bo$106b2o3bo4b2o$52bo58bo3b2ob3o20b2o$27b2o8b
2o11bobo13b2o42bo6bobobo19b2o$19bo7bo9b2o12b2o12bobo52b2o$4b2o12bobo4b
obo9b2o26bo13bo26b2o$3b3o13bo5b2o11bo25b2o13b2o25b2o$2bob2o23b2o6bobo
40b2o24b2o14bo18b2o$bobo25b2o5b2obo40bo26bo13bo18bo2bo$bo2bo70b3obo5b
2o19bobo5b2o5b3o17bobo$2b2o17bob2o50b3o7bobo17b2obo5b2o23b2obo$28bo8b
2o29bo18bo37bo13b3o$21bo7bo7b2o27b2o19b2o35bobo12b2o$21b2o6b2o36b2o37b
2o17bo$2b2o13b3ob3o4b2o45bo30b2o$2b2o13bo4b2o4bo45bobo46bo$2b2o13bobo
4bo12b2o35bobo46b3o3b2o$3bo32bo2bo35bo45b2o3bo3bo$2bobo5b2o25bobo20b2o
17b2o39bobob2o4bob2obo$b2obo5b2o23b2obo20bobo17bobo38b3obo3b2ob2ob2o$
21bo13b3o21bo21bo39bo2bo2bo2bo$20bobo12b2o21b2o21bob2o36b4obob3o13b2o$
2b2o17bo18bo38b3ob2o9b2o5b2o16b2o4b2o4b2o10bo2bo$2b2o36b3o35bo16bo5b2o
19b2o4b2o7b2o4bob2o$10bo32bo34b2o15bobo21b2obob4obob2o3bo2bo2b2o$9bo
32b2o52b2o22bobo6bobo4b3o2b2o$9b3o88b2o22bo2bo11b2obob2o$66bo32bobo18b
3o6b3o4b2obo4bo$64b3o11bo21bo17b2o2b3o2b3o2b2o2bo2bobob2o$2o61bo12bobo
16b3o23bo2bo2bo2bo6b3o3bob2o$2o28bo32b2o12b2o19bo20bobo8bobo6bo3bo2bo$
28b2ob2o61bo3bo45b2o$29bo2bo60bobo2bo21bo10bo4b2obo$30b2o59bo2bobo14bo
8b2o8b2o4b2o$67bo16bo6bo3bo16b2o7b2o6b2o6b2o$10b3o52b4o16bo5bo19b2o8b
10o5b3o$10bo10bo42bobo16b3o6b3o48b2o$11bo8bobo40bo2bobo6b2o58bo3bo2bo
2bo$20b2o42bo2bo6bo2bo45bo4bo7b3o3bobobo$4b2o23b2o34b3o7b2o48b2o16bob
3o$4b2o17bo5bo20b2o93b3o$4b2o16bobo5b3o4b2o12bo39bo$4bo18bo8bo4b3o8b3o
6bob2o17b2o9bobo$3bobo6b2o23b2obo7bo6b3ob2o17bo11b2o$3bob2o5b2o25bobo
12bo24b3o$19bo18bo2bo13b3ob2o20bo51b2o7bo$22bo16b2o16bobo73b2o6bobo$4b
2o12bo3bo6b4o24bobo37bo31b2o10bobo$4b2o12bo10bo2b2o24bo10b2o27bo30bobo
10bo$21bo8bo2b2o34bo26b3o30bo$19b3o3b2o3bo2bo5b2o29b3o$24bo6b2o6b2o31b
o68b2o$4b2o33b2o49b2o47b2o2bo$3bo2bo32bo32bo17b2o48bob2o3bo$3bobo25b2o
5bobo16b2o12bobo16b2o12bo32b2ob2o4bobo$4bob2o23b2o5bob2o14b3o13bo18bo
10bobo26bo5b3o7bo$5b3o13bo5b2o26bob2o23b2o6bobo10b2o25bobo4bo$6b2o12bo
bo4bobo24bobo25b2o5b2obo38bo5b2o2bo$21bo7bo9b2o13bo2bo80b3o$29b2o8b2o
14b2o17bob2o61bo$81bo8b2o18bo35b2o$74bo7bo7b2o19bo34bo$74b2o6b2o25b3o
35b3o$55b2o13b3ob3o4b2o66bo$55b2o13bo4b2o4bo62b2o$55b2o13bobo4bo12b2o
52b2o$56bo32bo2bo$55bobo5b2o25bobo24bo$54b2obo5b2o23b2obo23bobo$67b2o
5bo13b3o25b2o$66bobo4bobo12b2o41b3o$55b2o9bo7bo56b3obo8b2o$55b2o8b2o
65bobobo3b4o4b2o$123bo9bo2bo3b3ob2o2b2o$124bo9b2o9bo$122b3o!

[mniemiec]

Do you know the magic involved in how the gliders do that?

There is no magic involved. These are standard period-multiplying reactions, where each arriving pair of gliders advances a finite state machine into another state, and hopefully one of the state transitions either creates a free glider, or allows one of the original gliders to escape.

One trick that you can sometimes use to reduce the number of guns is this. If several gliders approach an area to collide, you should see what happens if one or more of them are missing. Sometimes, they annihilate harmlessly, or some of them pass right through the area (where they can be conveniently eaten by a nearby eater). So, in a hypothetical example, if you have a 3-glider collision that makes a LWSS, and removing one of the three gliders causes the other two to annihilate each other, you only need that one stream to be P960, while the other two can be P480 or even lower. You need to experiment with each collision you use, because they don't always work (for example, if one of the gliders whose period is different from the other arrives at a 180 degree angle from another, a collision may still take place, just not where you want it).

[Gustavo6046]

Here's a pseudo-period p26 gun. It involves a tricky oscillator that, when combined with two gliders, makes a LWSS. How about you try using that oscillator to make a p960 LWSS gun with only two p960 glider guns?

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x = 150, y = 136, rule = B3/S23
66b2o$45b2o8b2o9b2o$44bo2bo3b2o4b4o$43bobobo3b2o2b2ob3o19bo9b2o$42b3ob
o8bo9b3o8b2o2b2ob3o3bo2bo$42b3o20bo2bo7b2o4b4o3bobobo$66b2obo10b2o8bob
3o$69bo22b3o$68b3o$65b3obo$55b2o9b3o$55b2o10bo$80b2o$80b2o5$42bo$41bob
o$42bo15bo15b2o18bo$20bo9b2o13bo11bobo13bobo17bobo$16b2o2b2ob3o3bo2bo
12bobo10bo15bo3bo15bo$16b2o4b4o3bobobo11b2o3b2o25bobo$20b2o8bob3o15bob
o25bo6bo6bo$32b3o7b2o7b2o31b3o3bo$43bo8bo33bo4bo2bo$40b3o8bobo40bo$40b
o11b2o39bo$44b2o6bo19bo3b2o16b3o$20b2o22b2o20bob2o2bo3bobo3b2o12bo$20b
2o44bo11bo4bo7b2o$16bo49b5o7b2o3bo7b2o$16b3o33b2o14b2o$19bo31bo18bobo$
18b2o36b3o8bob2o$44b2o8bob3o7bobo$23b3o14b2o4b4o3bobobo7bo2bo2b2o5b3o$
25bo8bo5b2o2b2ob3o3bo2bo8bo2bo9b3obo8bo$23bobo7bobo8bo9b2o10bo2bo9bobo
bo3b2o2b2ob3o$18bo15bo24b2o5bo2bo10bo2bo3b2o4b4o$17bobo5b3obo30bo6b3o
11b2o8b2o$18bo5b3o33bobo$24b2o3bo31b2o$23bo5bo4$24b2o2bo50b2o$25b3o3b
2o46bo$26bo4b2o44bobo$77b2o3$81bo49b2o8b2o$18b3o59bobo40bo7bo9b2o$18b
3obo8bo48bobo25b2o12bobo4bobo9b2o$19bobobo3b2o2b2ob3o42b2ob3o22b3o13bo
5b2o11bo$20bo2bo3b2o4b4o48bo20bob2o23b2o6bobo$21b2o8b2o46b2ob3o20bobo
25b2o5b2obo$79b2obo22bo2bo$106b2o3bo4b2o$52bo58bo3b2ob3o20b2o$27b2o8b
2o11bobo13b2o42bo6bobobo19b2o$19bo7bo9b2o12b2o12bobo52b2o$4b2o12bobo4b
obo9b2o26bo13bo26b2o$3b3o13bo5b2o11bo25b2o13b2o25b2o$2bob2o23b2o6bobo
40b2o24b2o14bo18b2o$bobo25b2o5b2obo40bo26bo13bo18bo2bo$bo2bo70b3obo5b
2o19bobo5b2o5b3o17bobo$2b2o17bob2o50b3o7bobo17b2obo5b2o23b2obo$28bo8b
2o29bo18bo37bo13b3o$21bo7bo7b2o27b2o19b2o35bobo12b2o$21b2o6b2o36b2o37b
2o17bo$2b2o13b3ob3o4b2o45bo30b2o$2b2o13bo4b2o4bo45bobo46bo$2b2o13bobo
4bo12b2o35bobo46b3o3b2o$3bo32bo2bo35bo45b2o3bo3bo$2bobo5b2o25bobo20b2o
17b2o39bobob2o4bob2obo$b2obo5b2o23b2obo20bobo17bobo38b3obo3b2ob2ob2o$
21bo13b3o21bo21bo39bo2bo2bo2bo$20bobo12b2o21b2o21bob2o36b4obob3o13b2o$
2b2o17bo18bo38b3ob2o9b2o5b2o16b2o4b2o4b2o10bo2bo$2b2o36b3o35bo16bo5b2o
19b2o4b2o7b2o4bob2o$10bo32bo34b2o15bobo21b2obob4obob2o3bo2bo2b2o$9bo
32b2o52b2o22bobo6bobo4b3o2b2o$9b3o88b2o22bo2bo11b2obob2o$66bo32bobo18b
3o6b3o4b2obo4bo$64b3o11bo21bo17b2o2b3o2b3o2b2o2bo2bobob2o$2o61bo12bobo
16b3o23bo2bo2bo2bo6b3o3bob2o$2o28bo32b2o12b2o19bo20bobo8bobo6bo3bo2bo$
28b2ob2o61bo3bo45b2o$29bo2bo60bobo2bo21bo10bo4b2obo$30b2o59bo2bobo14bo
8b2o8b2o4b2o$67bo16bo6bo3bo16b2o7b2o6b2o6b2o$10b3o52b4o16bo5bo19b2o8b
10o5b3o$10bo10bo42bobo16b3o6b3o48b2o$11bo8bobo40bo2bobo6b2o58bo3bo2bo
2bo$20b2o42bo2bo6bo2bo45bo4bo7b3o3bobobo$4b2o23b2o34b3o7b2o48b2o16bob
3o$4b2o17bo5bo20b2o93b3o$4b2o16bobo5b3o4b2o12bo39bo$4bo18bo8bo4b3o8b3o
6bob2o17b2o9bobo$3bobo6b2o23b2obo7bo6b3ob2o17bo11b2o$3bob2o5b2o25bobo
12bo24b3o$19bo18bo2bo13b3ob2o20bo51b2o7bo$22bo16b2o16bobo73b2o6bobo$4b
2o12bo3bo6b4o24bobo37bo31b2o10bobo$4b2o12bo10bo2b2o24bo10b2o27bo30bobo
10bo$21bo8bo2b2o34bo26b3o30bo$19b3o3b2o3bo2bo5b2o29b3o$24bo6b2o6b2o31b
o68b2o$4b2o33b2o49b2o47b2o2bo$3bo2bo32bo32bo17b2o48bob2o3bo$3bobo25b2o
5bobo16b2o12bobo16b2o12bo32b2ob2o4bobo$4bob2o23b2o5bob2o14b3o13bo18bo
10bobo26bo5b3o7bo$5b3o13bo5b2o26bob2o23b2o6bobo10b2o25bobo4bo$6b2o12bo
bo4bobo24bobo25b2o5b2obo38bo5b2o2bo$21bo7bo9b2o13bo2bo80b3o$29b2o8b2o
14b2o17bob2o61bo$81bo8b2o18bo35b2o$74bo7bo7b2o19bo34bo$74b2o6b2o25b3o
35b3o$55b2o13b3ob3o4b2o66bo$55b2o13bo4b2o4bo62b2o$55b2o13bobo4bo12b2o
52b2o$56bo32bo2bo$55bobo5b2o25bobo24bo$54b2obo5b2o23b2obo23bobo$67b2o
5bo13b3o25b2o$66bobo4bobo12b2o41b3o$55b2o9bo7bo56b3obo8b2o$55b2o8b2o
65bobobo3b4o4b2o$123bo9bo2bo3b3ob2o2b2o$124bo9b2o9bo$122b3o!

So easy! Just...

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x = 160, y = 145, rule = B3/S23
60b2o$62bob2o$58bo2bo2b2o$58bobo$59bo$24bo$23b2o34b2o$7b2o13b2o4b2o29b
2o$7b3o11b3o4b2o2b2o$2b2o5b2obo9b2o4b2o2b2o$bo2bo4bo2bo10b2o28b3o$2b2o
5b2obo11bo27bo3bo$7b3o10bo$3bo3b2o9bobo30bo5bo$2bobo14b2o30b2o3b2o$2bo
bo$3bo32b2o$35bo2bo$36b2o$2obob2o$o5bo44b2o$bo3bo46bo$2b3o26b2o16b3o$
30bobo16bo10bo$32bo25b3o$57bo$57b2o$55b3o$54bobo$53bo3bo$3b2o18b3o27b
5o$3b2o7bo12bo26b2o3b2o$12b4o8bo28b5o$13b4o10b2o25b3o$13bo2bo9bobo26bo
$13b4o8b3o4b2ob3o$4b2o6b4o8b3o4bo2b4o$3bobo6bo12b3o4b2o$3bo22bobo$2b2o
23b2o31b2o$60b2o$60b2o$33b2o3bo2bo3b2o13bo23bo$33b5o4b5o12bobo21bobo$
33b2o3bo2bo3b2o13bobob3o17bo$61bob4o$62bo19bo$82b3o3b2o$80b2o3bo3bo$
79bobob2o4bob2obo$80bo2bo3b2ob2ob2o$83bo2bo2bo$80b4obob3o$84b2o$78b2ob
2o4b2ob2o$78b2obob4obob2o$81bobo2bobo$81bobo2bobo$78bo2bobo2bobo2bo$
81bob4obo$77b2o12b2o$79b2o8b2o$78b2o10b2o$78b2o10b2o$79bo4b2o4bo$80b2o
6b2o2$72bobo6bo6bo$73b2o7b6o$73bo7$85b3o$85bo$86bo20$97b2o$93b2obo$93b
2o2bo2bo13bo2bob2obo2bo$98bobo12b2o2bo4bo2b2o$99bo14bo2bob2obo2bo2$98b
2o$98b2o31b2o23b2o$131bobo22bo$126b2o6bo11bobo5bobo$122b2obo2bo2bo2bo
10bo2bo5b2o$122b2o2b2o6bo9b2o$131bobo8b2o3bo$103b3o25b2o11b2o$102bo3bo
29bo8bo2bo$101bo5bo26b2o10bobo6b2o$102bo3bo28b2o18b2o$103b3o$103b3o2$
101b2o$102bo$99b3o25bobo$99bo10bo16b2o$108b3o17bo27bo$107bo47b3o$107b
2o45b5o$153b2o3b2o$122b2o$121bo2bo$122b2o$155b3o$102b2o3b2o31bo14b3o$
102bobobobo30b2o10b2o$103b5o31bobo9b2o$104b3o27b2o12b2o6b2o$105bo26bo
3bo10b3o5bo2bo$126b2o3bo5bo10b2o6b2o$126b2o2b2obo3bo13b2o$99b2o30bo5bo
13b2o$99b2o31bo3bo$134b2o2$99b3o$94b2o2bob2o$94b2o2b2o$98b2o!

[towerator]

Do you know the magic involved in how the gliders do that?

The Game of life is incompatible with magic. Just that 3 gliders => 1 LWSS is very uncommon compared to every other 3G collisions doesn't means some obscure magical forces worked behind it.

Here's an example of an event that only happens once in a googol, and yet, you can create it at home:
1) Take a 72 cards deks and shuffle it vigorously
2) Draw the first card and write it's value on a sheet
3) Repeat until all cards are drawn.

It is incredibly unlikely that you got the order you got!
The formula of it's probability is P = 1/(72!) (1 divided by the factorial of 72), which is about 1.6*10^-104. Just imagine how lucky you were! And still.

What I meant is that, okay, 3Gs that create a LWSS are very very rare, they are not that surprizing.

[Gustavo6046]

Do you know the magic involved in how the gliders do that?

The Game of life is incompatible with magic. Just that 3 gliders => 1 LWSS is very uncommon compared to every other 3G collisions doesn't means some obscure magical forces worked behind it.

Here's an example of an event that only happens once in a googol, and yet, you can create it at home:
1) Take a 72 cards deks and shuffle it vigorously
2) Draw the first card and write it's value on a sheet
3) Repeat until all cards are drawn.

It is incredibly unlikely that you got the order you got!
The formula of it's probability is P = 1/(72!) (1 divided by the factorial of 72), which is about 1.6*10^-104. Just imagine how lucky you were! And still.

What I meant is that, okay, 3Gs that create a LWSS are very very rare, they are not that surprizing.

I already knew ALL of that.
Either way, focus now is in how to turn a LWSS to an MWSS and, in turn, to a HWSS...

[towerator]

I already knew ALL of that.
Either way, focus now is in how to turn a LWSS to an MWSS and, in turn, to a HWSS...

Instead of throwing away my arguments, document yourself, you'll know that both reaction are already known. But for everyone's sake I won't give them.

[Gustavo6046]

I already knew ALL of that.
Either way, focus now is in how to turn a LWSS to an MWSS and, in turn, to a HWSS...

Instead of throwing away my arguments, document yourself, you'll know that both reaction are already known. But for everyone's sake I won't give them.

Then I will search in LifeWiki. Better, one of jslife HWSS guns do use it! Ha ha, fried!
HONEST EDIT:Okay, I think I actually didn't found it...

[simsim314]

Look like he's figuring out how to make gliders do what he wants, which is good.

Kazyan Gustavo perfectly capable of making simple constructions - he has proven it several time.

The problem with Gustavo is communication, he just ignores what people tell him.

[Gustavo6046]

he just ignores what people tell him

No I don't; sometimes I have to answer negatively for some reason (like here), or I do accidentally miss it, but I NEVER ignored any post in my history of enthusiasm, even in other forums like ZDoom forums (from which I'm permbanned for no reason), Revolt Live, Minecraft Forums (which I often gets tempbanned from posting, for some days) etc...