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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 7th, 2020, 6:20 pm
by Jormungant
well, I did not think of a proper use case, but one can rely on some guaranties so that explosion never happens. So as long as proper delay between gliders are enforced, here is some kind of wierd toggle switch (which can be also tested 2 ways):
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x = 145, y = 119, rule = LifeHistory
23$126.C$125.C$124.B3C14$77.C$77.3C$80.C$79.2C$79.4B23.C$80.4B7.2C12.
C$81.4B5.B2CB10.B3C$82.4B4.4B9.4B$83.4B2.5B8.4B$84.4B.10B.5B$85.19B$
86.17B$34.2A11.A39.4BD10BD4B$33.B2AB9.A.A39.3B2D10BD4B$34.3B9.A.A2.2A
3.A32.B2D11B2D3B$33.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A12.A17.5B2C7B2D4B$33.5B8.B2.A.A
3.A.A10.3A17.5B2C7BDB4.2C$33.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A10.A20.16B4.C.C$33.8B4.2A.
A.A3.A12.2A19.12B10.C$34.13B2.A.AB2.A9.4B13.2A4.11B11.2C$32.13B5.A.A
2B.A7.3B14.B2AB2.12B$31.15B5.A2B.2A7.4B13.4B.14B$31.15B4.3B10.5B9.2B.
21B$30.17B.B.2B11.6B7.2A24B$30.29B2.8B7.2A25B$29.13B2A11BD14B7.B.25B$
28.14B2A9B3D13B11.19B2.4B$27.2AB3.20BDBD4B.7B11.19B4.4B$26.A2.A4.19BD
15B10.3BD15B.B3.4B$25.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B10.3BDBD14B2A3.4B$25.A7.6B
14.17B8.4B2D13B.B2A4.4B$24.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.21B3.B6.2B2D$19.2A10.4B4.
2A15.38B13.BDBD$20.A9.4B5.A16.8B.30B13.D$18.A10.4B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A11BD
13B$18.5A5.4B5.3A2.A11.2A3.B5.2B2A11BD14B$23.A3.D4B5.A2.A14.A10.32B$
20.3AB2.7B.BA.A2.2A10.3A12.B.3B.4B4.18B4.2A$19.A.2B3.7B.B2A15.A19.4B
7.17B.BA.A$19.4A12B36.4B8.19B2A$17.2A2.BA3B2A7B35.D3B10.19B$16.A2.3AB
.2B2A7B34.BDBD10.20B$16.2A.A.B3.10B33.2B2D11.20B$19.A8.8B31.4B12.13B
2A4B$19.2A7.10B28.4B13.12BA2BA5B$29.3B2.5B5.B20.4B15.11BABA5B2A$27.5B
3.5B4.2B18.4B17.11BA6B2A$27.2A8.4B10.A11.4B19.18B$28.A9.4B9.3A8.4B18.
20B$25.3A11.4B11.A6.4B19.2A.9B2.2B$25.A14.4B9.2A5.4B21.A4.6B$41.4B8.
5B.4B19.3A7.3B$42.4B9.7B20.A7.5B$42.5B7.7B29.2A$43.5B4.BA7B4.2A24.A$
44.5B2.BABA7B.A2.A21.3A$45.8B2A8B2A2.2A19.A$46.16B2.B2A2.A$47.3BD12B
2A3.2A$48.B2D9B.BA.A$49.B2D7B3.BA$45.2A2.2BD6B$45.A2.A2B4.5B$46.3AB8.
2A$51.A6.A$48.4A7.3A$48.A12.A$49.A$48.2A!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 7th, 2020, 6:30 pm
by dvgrn
BlinkerSpawn wrote: May 7th, 2020, 5:36 pmSadly, passing a signal while the block is present causes an explosion.
Yup, that feature costs extra. If you really need it, use
praosylen's Special-Purpose Beehive Keeper (TM) instead.
It doesn't interrupt two perpendicular lanes simultaneously... though, really, what's that going to get used for anyway? ... but it
does successfully stop gliders on three different lanes, while also being harmlessly resettable when it's already set:
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x = 66, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
42.2A$42.A.A$44.A4.A$43.A.2A2.3A$43.A2.A5.A$41.2A.A6.2A$40.A.A.2A5.4B
10.B$40.BAB.B8.B2A8.2B$25.A15.5B6.BA.A7.3B$25.3A8.B3.B.4B6.B2A7.BA2B$
27.BA6.12B5.3B6.3AB$9.4B14.2AB5.13B3.4B5.A3B$10.4B7.2A4.4B3.15B.4B5.B
2AB$11.B2AB5.B2AB4.4B.22B.B.4B$12.BA2B5.3B5.32B$13.ABAB3.B.B6.33B2.B$
14.2A2B.6B4.33B.B2A$15.10B2.37B2A$7.2A7.47B.B$8.A8.45B$8.A.AB6.44B$9.
2AB.3B2.27B2A14B$11.21B3D9BA2BA5B2.2B$11.23BD10B2A5B$12.20B3D14B$11.
36B2.3C$9.38B2.C$7.19B3.17B4.C3.3C$7.2BC15B5.10B3.B10.C$6.3BCBC4B.7B
7.8B16.C$7.2B3C4B2.6B7.7B$6.5BC4B3.6B6.2A26.3C$5.10B6.4B7.A26.C$4.4B
12.B2A2B4.3A28.C$4.3B14.2A.B2A2.A$2.4B18.BA.A.A$2.2A23.A.A.2A$3.A23.A
.A.2A$3A25.A$A!
Jormungant wrote: May 7th, 2020, 8:47 am
here is some B-to-H... new?
Newish, I think. It's a variant of
Guam's old Herschel splitter, BLx303H_Rx161B, but you've managed to avoid the piece that required a dependent conduit or an HR126 hooked up to one of the outputs.
Looks like it's necessary to suppress that marked R to get the other signal out cleanly, though. And this conduit is a little bit tricky to feed a B-heptomino into, so it may or may not end up meeting gmc_nxtman's 300-tick condition for a completed Herschel-to-Herschel conduit.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 8th, 2020, 9:33 am
by Jormungant
dvgrn wrote: May 7th, 2020, 6:30 pm
Looks like it's necessary to suppress that marked R to get the other signal out cleanly, though. And this conduit is a little bit tricky to feed a B-heptomino into, so it may or may not end up meeting gmc_nxtman's 300-tick condition for a completed Herschel-to-Herschel conduit.
Indeed, I managed to make a h-to-h with repeat time 326, going down to 300 seems possible, but that would be more likely if some track left over some junk that would be destroyed by the incoming glider. That's what lead me to that other contraption, but the block generated by the R is in the way as you describe, well, there might be other X-to-b variants that span junk that's out of the way of downstream sparks (marked in red)... at least my search by hand inconclusive.
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x = 162, y = 192, rule = LifeHistory
4$6.A$4.A.A$5.2A76$132.2A$131.B2A2B$132.4B$87.C39.3B3.4B$88.C38.9B$
86.3CB37.9B$87.4B10.A24.9B$88.4B7.3A24.8B5.2A$89.4B5.A21.B4.9B5.A$90.
4B4.2A19.3B3.10B.BA.A$83.2A6.9B17.6B2.10B.B2A$84.A7.6B13.4B2.7B.12B$
84.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.28B$85.A2.A4.19BD24B$86.2AB3.20BDBD23B$87.14B2A9B
3DB2A21B$88.13B2A11BDB2A22B9.A$89.52B6.3A$89.17B.B.2B2.29B4.A$90.15B
4.3B3.B2.24B4.2A$90.15B12.31B$91.13B12.30B$93.13B3.2C4.33B$92.8B4.2A.
C2.C3.4B.29B$92.6B6.2A.2C4.4B2.4B.25B$92.5B8.B6.4B8.25B$92.B.B9.2C.2C
2.2C.B9.25B$93.3B9.C.C2.C.C12.24B$92.B2AB7.C3.C.2C15.23B$93.2A8.2C2.C
2.C16.22B$108.2C19.21B$130.22B$128.2B.5B2D15B$127.2A6B3D15B$127.2A5B
4D14B$133.3D16B$132.3D16B$131.3D17B$130.3D12B3.2B$113.A15.4D7B.3B$
113.3A7.2A3.4D.13B$116.A4.2B2AB.5D.7B4.2A$115.2A4.4B13.2B4.A$115.9B.B
12.3B4.3A$117.10B11.2B7.A$115.13B9.3B$114.21B2D2BD$114.22B3DB$110.2A
2.18B2A3BD3B$111.A4.16B2A7B$111.A.AB.26B$112.2AB.26B$114.29B$114.15B.
13B$114.13B4.13B$115.8B.2B5.13B$114.9B9.5B.5B$114.9B5.B5.3B.5B$114.
16B5.B3.5BA$106.2C7.16B9.2B.A.A$107.C7.18B11.2A$107.CBCB2.20B$108.2CB
.22B$109.D20B2.B2C$108.2D20B2.BC.C$108.B2D19B5.C$111.18B6.2C$114.12B$
111.2B.9B$110.2C11B$110.2CB.10B.2C$111.B.11BC.C$116.7B.BC$116.7B9.C$
117.6B2.B4.3C$116.7B.4B.C$116.4B5.3BC.C$117.3B5.B.2BCB$117.3B8.2B$
116.4B7.2B$116.7B3.B2CB$116.6B5.2C$115.2B3D2B2.B$115.4BD2B$110.3B.4B
3DB$109.13B$108.14B$107.15B$107.14B$108.13B$108.14B$109.12B$111.3B2A
3B$112.BA2BA2B$114.2AB!
Also, if someone manages that insert or have a better blinker supression mechnism ^_^
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x = 98, y = 61, rule = LifeHistory
10$21.2A$20.B2AB$21.3B$20.B.B.B2.B$20.9B19.2A$20.10B17.A.A$19.12B12.
2B2.BA$17.BDB2A10B9.7B$17.BDBABA9B7.10B$16.2BDBA13B3.12B$15.2AB.16BD
12B$14.A.AB.17BD10B$14.A4.17B2D7B$13.2A5.15B2D10B8.C$18.17BD12B5.3C$
18.29B5.C$18.8BD4B.5B2A7B5.B2C$18.2B3C3B3D3B.4B2A7B3.5B8.2C$18.4BC3B
5D14B4.3B11.C$16.3BC.2C4B4D12B5.4B11.C.CB$15.4B2C6B.3D11B5.8B9.C.CB.B
$16.10B3.2D.11B3.10B9.C3B2C$18.7B5.D2.10B4.9B8.3B.B2C$20.3B10.11B3.9B
3.2C3.2B3.B$18.5B7.B.13B2.10B2.C.C.4B$18.2A.B7.2AB.12B2.10B3.CB2.B6.B
$19.A.BA2.2A2.2A13B3.10B2.2B7.A$17.A.A.A.A2.A3.35B.B2AB$17.2A2.A.2A5.
37BABA7B2.B3.4B$21.A10.41BD7B2.4B$20.2A10.39B3D7B.5B$32.39BDBD3B2A8B$
32.39BD4BA2BA7B$30.2AB.29B.2B2.8BABA8B$29.A.AB.4B3.20B10.6BA9B$29.A5.
3B.5B.3B2.11B12.14B$28.2A9.2A9.6B2.B.B13.2B2A8B$40.A10.5B.3B13.2BA2B
2A5B$37.3A12.4B.B2CB12.9B$37.A12.4BD3.2C13.BA6B$50.2C3D19.4B2AB$50.BC
.DB20.ABA2B$48.3C25.AB$48.C!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 8th, 2020, 11:31 am
by Jormungant
ddouble post time: C-to-C stabilisation variant:
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x = 16, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
7.2C$3.C.C2.C$.3C.2C$C4.B3.2D$.3CB2CB.2D$2D.C.2CB.2B$.D5.5B$.D.D2.7B$
2.2DB.7B$3.2C8B$3.2C7B$4.B.6B2D$6.6BDB2D$6.9BD$6.7B3D$7.6B$5.8B$5.8B$
5.8B$5.2B3C3B$5.4BC4B$3.3BCB2C4B$2.4B2C6B$3.10B$5.7B$7.3B$5.5B$5.2A.B
$6.A.BA2.2A$4.A.A.A.A2.A$4.2A2.A.2A$8.A$7.2A!
For sanity check, even if the clearance is lower at the entrance, still works with the following at least:
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x = 64, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
17$20.2A$20.A$15.A.2A.A4.2A$15.2A.A.2A2.B2AB$22.B2.3B$19.3A3B.B$18.A
2.A3B3D$18.2A.4BDBD$22.2BD2BD5.3B5.2A$20.3B.2D11B4.A$19.19B5.A$16.2D
20B4.2A$16.2D14B3D5B.A$13.2C4.13BDBD7B4A$13.C3.15BD2BD4B5.A$15.C.2C.
8B.5B2D2B.B3A$14.2CB2C3.2B5.9B.BA2.A$17.B3.B2CB4.9B4.2A$14.2C.2C.2D2C
6.7B$10.B4.C.C3.D9.6B$10.2B3.C.C3D9.10B$10.3B3.C.D11.11B3.B$10.4B13.
14B2.3B$11.4B11.20B$12.4B8.23B.B$13.4B6.25B2A$14.4B5.25B2A$15.4B3.27B
$16.4B.28B$17.27B2.B$17.31B$17.32B$15.34B$15.34B$15.32B.B2A$15.30B3.B
A.A$16.28B7.A$16.4B3C18B10.2A$18.2B2.C17B$18.2B3C14B$19.18B$18.18B$
17.17B$18.14B$19.13B$19.7B.5B$19.2A7.3B$20.A6.2A$17.3A7.A$17.A7.A.A$
25.2A!
sadly, that c-to-g follow up still does not work (so close thought...). Can be fixed in some wierd way though...
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x = 162, y = 69, rule = LifeHistory
10$40.A$38.A.A$39.2A2$45.A$45.A.A$45.2A2$41.D.D98.2C$41.D.D98.2C$41.
3D95.C$125.B13.5C$116.4B4.2B17.C4.2A$114.6B3.3B11.4C7.A$102.2A5.B4.
12B11.C2.C8.A$103.A4.3B.13B19.2A2.2A$103.A.A18B20.A.A$104.2A6BCBC8B
23.A.4A$28.B77.5B.CBC.8B20.B2A.A2.A$19.4B4.2B12.DA8.2A53.5B.3C.9B8.2A
8.5B$17.6B3.3B12.A.A7.A54.5B5.11B6.2A8.4B$5.2A5.B4.12B12.CA9.A53.22B
14.2D3B.B$6.A4.3B.13B19.2A2.2A48.2A3.22B13.BDB2D.B2A$6.A.A18B20.A.A
51.A5.22B7.9BD2B2A$7.2A6BCBC8B23.A.4A47.3A.24B6.7B3D.2B$9.5B.CBC.8B
20.B2A.A2.A49.A25B7.10B$9.5B.3C.9B8.2A8.5B54.25B4.9B.4B$9.5B5.11B6.2A
8.4B55.27B.10B2.4B$9.22B14.2D3B.B54.37B3.4B$4.2A3.22B13.BDB2D.B2A56.
28B3D3B$4.A5.22B7.9BD2B2A56.30BD3B$5.3A.24B6.7B3D.2B58.26BDB2D3B$7.A
25B7.10B60.26B2D5B$8.25B4.9B.4B60.32B$8.27B.10B2.4B61.19B2.8B$9.37B3.
4B60.19B5.3B$12.28B3D3B67.19B3.5B$12.30BD3B68.17B4.2A.B$13.26BDB2D3B
69.14B7.A.BA2.2A$13.26B2D5B69.14B5.A.A.A.A2.A$14.32B69.15B4.2A2.A.2A$
16.19B2.8B71.6B.8B7.A$16.19B5.3B74.5B.7B7.2A$16.19B3.5B74.11B$17.17B
4.2A.B76.4B.4B$18.14B7.A.BA2.2A69.5B2.2B2AB$18.14B5.A.A.A.A2.A69.2A7.
2A$18.15B4.2A2.A.2A72.A$19.6B.8B7.A72.3A$20.5B.7B7.2A72.A$20.11B$21.
4B.4B$19.5B2.2B2AB$19.2A7.2A$20.A$17.3A$17.A!
well, I realized later that there is no point in fixing this c-to-c so it works with c-to-g, there is an alternative c-to-g in the collection that produces that exact glider while leaving a block close to the intermediate c, it looks even cleaner ^^'
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 8th, 2020, 8:15 pm
by Jormungant
will it fit?
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x = 16, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
6.2C$7.C$5.C$5.2C2$2C3.2CB6.2C$C4.C.B6.C$.3C.C.B4.C.C$3.C.2CB4.2C$4.
2B5.B$7.B3.2B$5.B5.B$4.2B5.B$4.2B$4.2B.B$6.B2$12.B$8.B2.2B$8.B2.5B$7.
2B.6B$12.3B$5.B.3C2.3B$5.4BCB.2B$3.3BCB2CB2.B$2.4B2C2B3.B$3.10B$5.7B$
7.3B$5.5B$5.2A.B$6.A.BA2.2A$4.A.A.A.A2.A$4.2A2.A.2A$8.A$7.2A!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 11th, 2020, 12:58 am
by 4.66920 16091
How about this 8-cell methuselah? It has a lifespan of 8465 generations, longer than 7468M.
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x = 9, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$7b2o$7bo17$3o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 11th, 2020, 1:05 am
by Hunting
4.66920 16091 wrote: May 11th, 2020, 12:58 am
How about this 8-cell methuselah? It has a lifespan of 8465 generations, longer than 7468M.
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x = 9, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$7b2o$7bo17$3o!
That one's almost certainly known - plus, 7468M is notable because it's the longest-lived known pattern consisting of a single cluster with eight or fewer cells.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 11th, 2020, 1:48 am
by GUYTU6J
4.66920 16091 wrote: May 11th, 2020, 12:58 am
How about this 8-cell methuselah? It has a lifespan of 8465 generations...
Hello, welcome to the forums!
Sure, it is only 8 cells, but it takes up too large space. It is not notable considering its
L/MCPS.
Please refer to our
list of long-lived methuselahs to have a basic understanding about notability.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 11th, 2020, 1:48 am
by yujh
4.66920 16091 wrote: May 11th, 2020, 12:58 am
How about this 8-cell methuselah? It has a lifespan of 8465 generations, longer than 7468M.
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x = 9, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$7b2o$7bo17$3o!
Please read da rules
https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/view ... f=2&t=2092
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 11th, 2020, 2:03 am
by JP21
How rude of you to say.
You don't say that to new users...
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 11th, 2020, 2:06 am
by yujh
JP21 wrote: May 11th, 2020, 2:03 am
How rude of you to say.
You don't say that to new users...
Sorry.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 11th, 2020, 9:23 am
by 4.66920 16091
It doesn't matter,because I found a much better pattern! It must have even more L/MCPS.
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x = 10, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$8b2o$8bo2$o$o$o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 11th, 2020, 10:38 am
by GUYTU6J
4.66920 16091 wrote: May 11th, 2020, 9:23 am
It doesn't matter,because I found a much better pattern! It must have even more L/MCPS.
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x = 10, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$8b2o$8bo2$o$o$o!
Let's see...L=8560, MCPS=14 → L/MCPS=611(check yourself). Though with the same initial population as 7468M, it has a larger MCPS and a smaller L/MCPS.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 11th, 2020, 9:24 pm
by yujh
I’d say this is known.
From goodogtyson
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x = 14, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$2b2obo2bob2o$2b2o6b2o$2bobo4bobo$4b2o2b2o$3b2ob2ob2o$5bo2bo$3bo6b
o$3bo6bo2$3b8o$2b2o6b2o3$5bo2bo$2bob2o2b2obo$b5o2b5o$o3bob2obo3bo$bo2b
o4bo2bo$4bo4bo$2bo8bo$3b2o4b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 11th, 2020, 9:50 pm
by GUYTU6J
yujh wrote: May 11th, 2020, 9:24 pm
I’d say this is known.
From goodogtyson
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x = 14, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$2b2obo2bob2o$2b2o6b2o$2bobo4bobo$4b2o2b2o$3b2ob2ob2o$5bo2bo$3bo6b
o$3bo6bo2$3b8o$2b2o6b2o3$5bo2bo$2bob2o2b2obo$b5o2b5o$o3bob2obo3bo$bo2b
o4bo2bo$4bo4bo$2bo8bo$3b2o4b2o!
It's the third pattern
here.
That's why I'm suggesting expanding the tagalong section in the page for turtle.(See Suggested Lifewiki edits thread)
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 12th, 2020, 8:46 am
by Hunting
JP21 wrote: May 11th, 2020, 2:03 am
How rude of you to say.
You don't say that to new users...
Uh, then...
toroidalet wrote:
Spaceships like these tend not to be notable (There are an infinite number of trivial variants) and so shouldn't be posted here. Please read
da rulez first.
(Removed tag attributes to avoid notification.)
How rude of you to say. You don't say that to new users...
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 12th, 2020, 3:53 pm
by nokangaroo
Edge-shooting p46 LWSS gun using Tanner's p46
This use of Tanner's p46 oscillator might be interesting (you can't get that offset with the p23 gun). The glider streams making the block can be advanced by 1 or 2 generations.
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x = 105, y = 56, rule = LifeHistory
8.B.4BA4B.B3.4B11.38BA2BA24B$6.6BA2BA7B.4B11.16B4A22BA19B4A$5.7B5A10B
2A9.2A14BA3BA18BA3BA18BA3BA$4.8B3AB2A9B2A8.B2A18BA19B4A22BA$3.A9B2ABA
9B.B8.18BA2BA42BA2BAB$.3A10B2A10B9.7B.2B2A$A19.3B.B.3B5.4B.4B.2A2B$.
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$6.6BA2BA19B9.4B.4B9.2A.6B.6B.2A$2.2A2.8BA4B.3B.B.2BA6B10.4B.4B12.5B.
5B$2B2AB.2B3A2B14.B2A6B10.4B.4B11.5B.5B$4B2.7B13.BABA.5B11.4B.4B9.6B.
6B$6B.A3BA13.4B.6B12.3BA.4B8.6B.6B$7BA3BAB11.4B3.6B12.B2AB.3BA7.6B.6B
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10B3.A15.4B.5B2AB2A2BABA5BA8BABA2B2A4B$BA3BA.A3BA5B13.4B.5B4.3A13.2B
2A.5BABABABABA9BA3BA3BAB3A2B2A$2B3AB.B3A5B15.BA3.3B7.A14.2A2B.2AB2A2B
A3BA7BA3BA3BA6B2AB2A$6B.8B11.2A.A.A.A28.BA3BABA2B.15BA5B5ABAB.B$6B.8B
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10B17.2A29.4B7.B4.16B3A2B$.5B.5B2.4B48.4B9.B.13B5ABAB.B$.5B.5B3.4B48.
4B7.2A13BA6B2AB2A$2.4B.4B5.4B48.4B6.2A12BA3BAB3A2B2A$6B.6B4.2B2A48.4B
6.4B.9BABA2B2A4B$6B.6B5.2A2B48.4B5.4B3.B.9B.B2.B$4B5.4B6.BA2B48.3BA
26.B2A$2B2AB3.B2A2B7.4B48.B2AB25.B2A$2.2A5.2A10.4B9.B.9B.B3.4B19.ABAB
9.B.5BA3B.B2.B$22.4B6.3B4A10B.4B20.4B6.8B2A10B$23.4B3.4B2A2BA14B2A20.
4B3.9B3ABA7B2A$7.4B3.B.7B2A3B2.3B2A2BA15B2A4.4B3.B.3B2A7B2.8B2A11B2A$
7.4B.10B5A7BA2BA14B.B5.4B.9BA17B2A9B.B$6.2A14BA4BA2B.4B2A15B6.2A10B2A
2BA7B.9BA9B$6.2A14B3A2BA4B26.2A11BA2BA9B$7.B.14BA2B2A7B2A15B7.B.11BAB
A17BA9B$9.15B2A8BA2BA14B.B7.11B2A17B2A9B.B$30.3B2A2BA15B2A27.8B2A11B
2A$9.15B2A8B2A2BA14B2A6.11B2A17B3ABA7B2A$7.B.14BA2B2A7B4A10B.4B5.B.
11BABA17B2A10B$6.2A14B3A2BA4B2.B.9B.B3.4B4.2A11BA2BA9B2.B.5BA3B.B2.B$
6.2A14BA4BA4B26.2A10B2A2BA9B17.B2A$7.4B.10B5A2B.B28.4B.9BA7B.B19.2A$
7.4B3.B.7B2A.B32.4B3.B.3B2A4B.B!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 12th, 2020, 3:54 pm
by nokangaroo
Pulse divider herschel factory
Might be of some limited use - e. g. this p160 factory is smaller than the straightforward p160 gun + syringe. Or it could replace the pulse divider in some large-period glider guns (e. g. p248).
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x = 87, y = 75, rule = LifeHistory
35.2A3.2A$35.2AB.A2.A$34.B.AB2.2A$34.2A.3A$34.3BA2.2A2.2A$28.2A4.2B2.
A.A2.A.A$27.A2.A3.5A.B3A7.2A.A$26.A2.A.AB6.ABA2.A5.A.A.3A11.2A$23.A2.
3A.3A3.3A.2ABA.A3.A2.A4.A9.A.A$15.A.2A4.3A3.B3A3.2B.2A3.A5.3A3.A.B.A.
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2A2BA6.8A3.4BABA$2.A2.2AB.B.A.A3.3A3.A2.AB7.2B.A.B7.A3.B3.AB3AB.BA.2A
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A2.2A3.2A$6.A5.BA3B3A3B8.2B3.4BABAB3AB.A.A2.4A$2.2A4.A2.3A2BA.5BAB.AB
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3B.BA2B2AB.3A3B2.A4.2A$12.4A2.A.A.2A2B2A2BA3B2A2B9.2B3AB2AB2A5.A$2.2A
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B.2B2A2B3.2A.A5.2A$A.A9.A4.A2.A6.A5.3B3.10B10.B2A2B$2A11.3A.A.A7.2A2.
4BA3.A10B10.4B$15.A.2A11.4BA.A.A.A4B2.3BA9.4B$30.5B2A.2A5B3.ABAB7.AB
2A$30.3B3AB.B3A3B4.2A2B6.ABAB$30.2B2A3B.3B2A2B5.4B4.2BAB$30.B3ABAB.BA
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2A.2A2B3A8.5B2.2A2.B2A2B6.3AB2A4B$30.B2A2B.B.B.2B2AB9.4B7.4B5.BA3B3A
4B$31.B4A3.4AB11.5B4.7B2.3A5BABA3B$33.BAB3.BAB14.5B2.8B3.BA.3AB2A.AB$
34.A5.A16.4B.2B3A4B5.B2A3B2A$58.12B$59.4BABABAB7.B2A3B2A$59.4B2AB2A2B
4.BA.3AB2A.AB$60.B2A5B2A2B.E2A5BABA3B$59.2AB4A2BA2BAB.BA3B3A4B$58.B5A
4BA2BA2B.3AB2A4B$58.2BAB2A2BA4BAB2.B4A5B$56.4B2.2B3A7B2.B2A5B$56.2AB
5.4B2A4B.2B$57.A4.12B.2B$54.3A5.2A3.6B.4B$54.A8.A4.9B$60.3A5.8B$60.A
6.8B$67.7B$67.6B$66.2B3D2B$66.4BD2B$65.4B3DB$59.B3.10B$58.2AB.11B$58.
2A13B$59.13B$59.9B$61.B.4B$63.2B2AB$65.2A!
The single-bit spark (marked in yellow) can be provided by a lot of oscillators (in most cases of course you need an eater for the Herschel's first glider). The minimum period would be 128. It would be 80 with a reset glider 16 ticks ahead; I don't know if that's of any use:
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x = 71, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o$bo2$4bobo$5b2o$5bo14$20bobo$21b2o$21bo2$24bobo$25b2o$25bo12$
50b2o$50b2o$40bobo$41b2o20b2o$41bo20bo2bo$62bobo2bo2bo$44bobo14b2obob
5o$45b2o14bo2bo$45bo15b3o2b3o$61b4o4bo$61b3o2b2obo$55b2o4bo2bo3bo$55b
2o4b2obob2o$62bobobo$62bobo2bo$39b2o22bo2b2o$38bobo6b2o$38bo9bo$37b2o
6b3o14b2ob2o$45bo15bobobobo$62bo2bobo$65bob2o$53b3o8b2o3bo$55bo5bobo2b
obo$54b3o4b2o2b2ob2o2$43b2o$43b2o4$50b2o$50b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 12th, 2020, 4:40 pm
by dvgrn
nokangaroo wrote: May 12th, 2020, 3:54 pm
Pulse divider herschel factory
Might be of some limited use - e. g. this p160 factory is smaller than the straightforward p160 gun + syringe. Or it could replace the pulse divider in some large-period glider guns (e. g. p248).
Not sure how well periodic pulse divider technology is known. There should probably be a link to the
old LifeNews article added to the
pulse divider LifeWiki article.
There's a perfectly good glider output from the basic reaction, as well as the Herschel. So it's a fairly quick mechanism for putting two unsynchronized signals in and getting two separate (but synchronizable) signals out.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 13th, 2020, 8:20 am
by gameoflifemaniac
Is this LWSS eater known?
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x = 14, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2ob2o7b2o$4o8b2o$b2o2$11b2o$11b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 13th, 2020, 8:39 am
by Freywa
gameoflifemaniac wrote: May 13th, 2020, 8:20 am
Is this LWSS eater known?
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x = 14, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2ob2o7b2o$4o8b2o$b2o2$11b2o$11b2o!
I am almost certain that it is known.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 13th, 2020, 9:12 am
by Hunting
Freywa wrote: May 13th, 2020, 8:39 am
gameoflifemaniac wrote: May 13th, 2020, 8:20 am
Is this LWSS eater known?
Code: Select all
x = 14, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2ob2o7b2o$4o8b2o$b2o2$11b2o$11b2o!
I am almost certain that it is known.
'Cause you (re?)discovered it in 2013:
Freywa wrote: July 3rd, 2013, 7:36 am
I was so bored with Bellman, I put in an LWSS and said "OK, what catalysts can I find for it?" I found a way to eat an LWSS with two
blocks.
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x = 8, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
obo$3bo$3bo$o2bo$b3o4$6b2o$2b2o2b2o$2b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 13th, 2020, 9:26 am
by dvgrn
Hunting wrote: May 13th, 2020, 9:12 am'Cause you (re?)discovered it in 2013...
Or maybe
re-re-rediscovered it. It goes back pretty far.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 13th, 2020, 1:15 pm
by mniemiec
I've seen it posted somewhere on these blogs in recent years, although I'm not sure where, and I can't find any mention of it on the wiki; for some reason, there are pages for most of the results of 2-glider collisions, but there isn't one for two skewed blocks. People did collisions of all the basic spaceships into each other, and into all of of the small and simple objects and patterns back in the '70s, so I would be very surprised if this wasn't known 40+ years ago.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: May 13th, 2020, 3:47 pm
by dvgrn
mniemiec wrote: May 13th, 2020, 1:15 pm
I've seen it posted somewhere on these blogs in recent years, although I'm not sure where, and I can't find any mention of it on the wiki; for some reason, there are pages for most of the results of 2-glider collisions, but there isn't one for two skewed blocks. People did collisions of all the basic spaceships into each other, and into all of of the small and simple objects and patterns back in the '70s, so I would be very surprised if this wasn't known 40+ years ago.
There's a wiki redirect for
half blockade, but nothing extolling the
many virtues of
that particular block pair.