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Our Ш, probably.
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BokaBB

BokaBB wrote: October 20th, 2020, 6:36 am Our Ш, probably.
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BokaBB

Please use IPA, I don't know your alphabet.

I think that is the letter you said.
Should I use Latin alphabet when asking about my letters? You could have easier time recognizing.
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BokaBB

BokaBB wrote: October 20th, 2020, 6:48 am I think that is the letter you said.
Should I use Latin alphabet when asking about my letters? You could have easier time recognizing.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Latin is better, though IPA is preferred. There are lists of symbols on the internet, you can just copy and paste from those:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_pulmo ... with_audio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_vowel ... with_audio

Someone summarize all posts. I don't have time to go through all 8 pages.

gay: james

Hunting wrote: October 20th, 2020, 8:56 am Someone summarize all posts. I don't have time to go through all 8 pages.

ok
an argument about what our orthography is

Moosey wrote: October 20th, 2020, 9:10 am

Hunting wrote: October 20th, 2020, 8:56 am Someone summarize all posts. I don't have time to go through all 8 pages.

ok
an argument about what our orthography is

What? That isn't a complete sentence.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 20th, 2020, 9:11 am

Moosey wrote: October 20th, 2020, 9:10 am

Hunting wrote: October 20th, 2020, 8:56 am Someone summarize all posts. I don't have time to go through all 8 pages.

ok
an argument about what our orthography is

What? That isn't a complete sentence.

maybe not, but it is a summary of (most) posts here.

Moosey wrote: October 20th, 2020, 9:14 am

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 20th, 2020, 9:11 am

Moosey wrote: October 20th, 2020, 9:10 am

ok
an argument about what our orthography is

What? That isn't a complete sentence.

maybe not, but it is a summary of (most) posts here.

Oh ok. Can we also plan what to do after we are done with the orthography?

We finished phonology and orthography I think. Phonotactics now.
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BokaBB

BokaBB wrote: October 21st, 2020, 2:09 am We finished phonology and orthography I think. Phonotactics now.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

I doubt we ae done with orthography. We need consensus. Please make a list of letter or letter groups that we haven't agreed upon and their proposed IPA equivalent. These are those sounds:
a = /ɐ/
c = /t̠ʃ/
e = /ɛ/
i = /ɪ/
j = /ʒ/ or /d̠ʒ/ (one of the two, doesn't matter for me)
u = /u/
sh = /ʃ/
zh = /ʒ/ or /d̠ʒ/ (again one of the two, doesn't matter for me)
au = /au/

There is definitely no ch, or x. Maybe no th(/θ/) or w. J and zh should have different sounds.

Edit: I will make a summary later today.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 21st, 2020, 3:34 am

BokaBB wrote: October 21st, 2020, 2:09 am We finished phonology and orthography I think. Phonotactics now.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

I doubt we ae done with orthography. We need consensus. Please make a list of letter or letter groups that we haven't agreed upon and their proposed IPA equivalent. These are those sounds:
a = /ɐ/
c = /t̠ʃ/
e = /ɛ/
i = /ɪ/
j = /ʒ/ or /d̠ʒ/ (one of the two, doesn't matter for me)
u = /u/
sh = /ʃ/
zh = /ʒ/ or /d̠ʒ/ (again one of the two, doesn't matter for me)
au = /au/

There is definitely no ch, or x. Maybe no th(/θ/) or w. J and zh should have different sounds.

eu = /ʌ/
d = /d/
j = /j/

Hunting wrote: October 21st, 2020, 3:50 am

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 21st, 2020, 3:34 am

BokaBB wrote: October 21st, 2020, 2:09 am We finished phonology and orthography I think. Phonotactics now.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

I doubt we ae done with orthography. We need consensus. Please make a list of letter or letter groups that we haven't agreed upon and their proposed IPA equivalent. These are those sounds:
a = /ɐ/
c = /t̠ʃ/
e = /ɛ/
i = /ɪ/
j = /ʒ/ or /d̠ʒ/ (one of the two, doesn't matter for me)
u = /u/
sh = /ʃ/
zh = /ʒ/ or /d̠ʒ/ (again one of the two, doesn't matter for me)
au = /au/

There is definitely no ch, or x. Maybe no th(/θ/) or w. J and zh should have different sounds.

eu = /ʌ/
d = /d/
j = /j/

I don't think eu should be a diphthong. The sound you associated it with doesn't seem right either. Also, if j is /j/, what use does y have? I don't know why you mentioned d, that seems like a very straightforward sound. Sorry if I sound mean.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 21st, 2020, 3:55 am

Hunting wrote: October 21st, 2020, 3:50 am

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 21st, 2020, 3:34 am
I doubt we ae done with orthography. We need consensus. Please make a list of letter or letter groups that we haven't agreed upon and their proposed IPA equivalent. These are those sounds:
a = /ɐ/
c = /t̠ʃ/
e = /ɛ/
i = /ɪ/
j = /ʒ/ or /d̠ʒ/ (one of the two, doesn't matter for me)
u = /u/
sh = /ʃ/
zh = /ʒ/ or /d̠ʒ/ (again one of the two, doesn't matter for me)
au = /au/

There is definitely no ch, or x. Maybe no th(/θ/) or w. J and zh should have different sounds.

eu = /ʌ/
d = /d/
j = /j/

I don't think eu should be a diphthong. The sound you associated it with doesn't seem right either. Also, if j is /j/, what use does y have? I don't know why you mentioned d, that seems like a very straightforward sound. Sorry if I sound mean.

Because the language is wierd. You are saying if c is /k/ what use does k have?

Or maybe

d = /dr/.

Hunting wrote: October 21st, 2020, 3:57 am

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 21st, 2020, 3:55 am
I don't think eu should be a diphthong. The sound you associated it with doesn't seem right either. Also, if j is /j/, what use does y have? I don't know why you mentioned d, that seems like a very straightforward sound. Sorry if I sound mean.

Because the language is wierd. You are saying if c is /k/ what use does k have?

Or maybe

d = /dr/.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Either they should have different sounds or have the same sound in different well-defined contexts. Why should d be /dr/?

A=/a/
E=/e/
Au=/au/
Zh=/ʒ/
J = absent
Y=/j/
Sh=/ʂ/
U=/u/
I=/i/
Ch=Č or Ч(check its sound yourself,I cannot now)
C=/ts/
No diphthongs.
I wanted like this.
This is a big argument now.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

BokaBB wrote: October 21st, 2020, 5:56 am A=/a/
E=/e/
Au=/au/
Zh=/ʒ/
J = absent
Y=/j/
Sh=/ʂ/
U=/u/
I=/i/
Ch=Č or Ч(check its sound yourself,I cannot now)
C=/ts/
No diphthongs.
I wanted like this.
This is a big argument now.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

J should be /dʒ/. Sh should be /ʃ/ not /ʂ/. I can't hear the difference between them myself but /ʃ/ is the sh used in English, like ship or delicious.
Isn't au a diphthong? Can we come to a compromise? I can be /i/, e can be /e/, but a is /ɐ/. We should ask others on the sound that c and ch make.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 21st, 2020, 4:02 am

Hunting wrote: October 21st, 2020, 3:57 am

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 21st, 2020, 3:55 am
I don't think eu should be a diphthong. The sound you associated it with doesn't seem right either. Also, if j is /j/, what use does y have? I don't know why you mentioned d, that seems like a very straightforward sound. Sorry if I sound mean.

Because the language is wierd. You are saying if c is /k/ what use does k have?

Or maybe

d = /dr/.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Either they should have different sounds or have the same sound in different well-defined contexts. Why should d be /dr/?

I'm new to this conlang thing, I just assign random sounds to random letters. I can learn.

If you guys keep arguing, c will be /kx/, as in "cab". Or do we want hard and soft c?

/ʃ/sounds weak and could give the language sound I don't want./ʂ/ is better.
I can't imagine a language without /a/. English has it in diphthongs. Solution?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

BokaBB wrote: October 21st, 2020, 6:34 am I can't imagine a language without /a/. English has it in diphthongs. Solution?

Am I right that you are talking about open front unrounded vowel, and not open back unrounded vowel? If so, ah would do the work.

Hunting wrote: October 21st, 2020, 6:30 am
I'm new to this conlang thing, I just assign random sounds to random letters. I can learn.

If you guys keep arguing, c will be /kx/, as in "cab".

Sorry but they c in cab is /k/. Can you please state your opinion? We need consensus, even if not everyone likes it. Arguing is normal, let's just stay respectful.
Edit: /ʂ/ is okay, I can't hear the difference anyway.

Hunting wrote: October 21st, 2020, 6:30 am

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 21st, 2020, 4:02 am

Hunting wrote: October 21st, 2020, 3:57 am

Because the language is wierd. You are saying if c is /k/ what use does k have?

Or maybe

d = /dr/.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Either they should have different sounds or have the same sound in different well-defined contexts. Why should d be /dr/?

I'm new to this conlang thing, I just assign random sounds to random letters. I can learn.

If you guys keep arguing, c will be /kx/, as in "cab". Or do we want hard and soft c?

Welcome back, friend!
C should be /ts/ or /c/.
For a short time yesterday you had some gay in your signature. I am doubtful about your sexuality. I don't like gays.
Can A be /a/ and ae /ɐ/ or maybe /æ/?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 21st, 2020, 6:42 am

Hunting wrote: October 21st, 2020, 6:30 am
I'm new to this conlang thing, I just assign random sounds to random letters. I can learn.

If you guys keep arguing, c will be /kx/, as in "cab".

Sorry but they c in cab is /k/. Can you please state your opinion? We need consensus, even if not everyone likes it. Arguing is normal, let's just stay respectful.
Edit: /ʂ/ is okay, I can't hear the difference anyway.

Oh, sorry, I forgot to state in New Zealand English, as I can't find a better example word for /kx/ anyway.

BokaBB wrote: October 21st, 2020, 6:48 am

Hunting wrote: October 21st, 2020, 6:30 am
I'm new to this conlang thing, I just assign random sounds to random letters. I can learn.

If you guys keep arguing, c will be /kx/, as in "cab". Or do we want hard and soft c?

Welcome back, friend!
C should be /ts/ or /c/.
For a short time yesterday you had some gay in your signature. I am doubtful about your sexuality. I don't like gays.
Can A be /a/ and ae /ɐ/ or maybe /æ/?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Some gay? What does that even mean? I think your comment goes beyond the guidelines. Anyways, your suggestion for ae being /ɐ/is ok by me.

BokaBB wrote: October 21st, 2020, 6:48 am

Hunting wrote: October 21st, 2020, 6:30 am

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 21st, 2020, 4:02 am

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Either they should have different sounds or have the same sound in different well-defined contexts. Why should d be /dr/?

I'm new to this conlang thing, I just assign random sounds to random letters. I can learn.

If you guys keep arguing, c will be /kx/, as in "cab". Or do we want hard and soft c?

Welcome back, friend!
C should be /ts/ or /c/.
Gay is perfectly normal. I don't like discrimination. But alright, let's not care about this anyway.
Can A be /a/ and ae /ɐ/ or maybe /æ/?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

I don't get why should C be /ts/. It is /t̻͡s̪/ in Chinese though.

If so, then I purpose ah (or aa) should be /ɑ/ as in Chinese ang.