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Re: Symbiosis

Posted: August 24th, 2024, 9:00 am
by ababa11e
b-engine wrote: August 24th, 2024, 8:04 am (Revival)
P92:

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x = 18, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
15.A$12.A.B.AB$10.2B$7.A.B.B$6.BA3.B$6.A.B.2B$3.AB$.A11.A$B12.B$2B$3.
B$4.A$3.AB!
 
There's a catalyst in the p92:

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x = 9, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$3.AB$.A4.3B$B5.B$2B4.3B$3.B$4.A$3.AB!
Not quite dead, since I am working on something.
p18:

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x = 8, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
.BA2$3.A2.B$2.3A2.A$2.A.A$4.2AB2$2.2A$3.A$BA2.AB$.B2A!
p32:

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x = 9, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$5.B2$4.B.A$A.B2.3B$B.2B2.B.A$B.A2.B$A.A.2B$.A.B.B$4.B$5.2BA$5.2BA
!
p95:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
.B.A$A.3AB.AB$3.A2.A$4.A2.A$B6.A$A.5A$2B6.B$8.BA$4.A$4.B!
p132 from 25% density large soup:

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x = 13, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
$.B.A4.A$2.AB3.3B$2.A2.4B.A$3.B2.B$2.B2.B$3.2B$11.AB$2.2A$2.A$3.AB2$3.
A$4.B2.A$2.B3.B$2.2B3.B$4.A2.A$5.A$5.B!
p144 pi hassler:

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
2.A$BAB.2A4.A.B$B.2A3.A3.BA$.A5.A$2.4A$B.A.A$A2.2AB$9.B$3.B5.A$2.A!
p178:

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x = 15, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
13.AB$B$A3.BA$6.2B5.B$A3.2B2.B3.BA$B.B.B2.B5.AB$.A3.2B5.B$4.A8.A$13.A
B!
p534:

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x = 19, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
3.A.B$A2.2A.A$.B2.A2.A.B$4.B3.A$5.A11.B$2.BAB11.B.B$3.A12.AB$4.A3.2A6.
BA$5.A.2A.A$4.B.A3.A$5.A.2A.A6.B$6.B.AB7.A$8.A8.B$16.2BA!
(also, palindromic post number: 1551)

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: August 24th, 2024, 10:46 am
by pifricted
Can’t the glider loop have p74?

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x = 259, y = 67, rule = Symbiosis
35.B$33.2A$33.2A2$27.2A$28.2A$27.A3$34.A$32.A.A$33.2A6$128.A$127.B2$223.
B$B222.A$.2A6.A$.2A6.2A112.A$8.A.A87.B25.B7.B$98.A32.A12.A$144.B$4.2A
46.A43.A$4.A.A46.A43.A40.A$4.A46.3A41.3A39.B$76.2A$76.2A$47.A54.A$45.
2A7.2A20.A24.A.A$46.2A6.2A19.A.A23.3A$56.B18.A2.B23.B4.B$108.A$255.B$
255.A2$217.B28.B$147.A33.A8.B6.A19.A28.A$148.A30.A.A8.2A4.B$146.3A23.
A7.2A7.A.A27.B$142.B27.A.A15.BA.A27.B.B7.AB12.BA3.3B$120.B20.A29.2A7.
A8.A.A8.2A17.3B26.B.B$22.3A94.A59.A.A8.2A7.A.A19.B26.B.B$22.A112.B43.
2A9.B9.A.B54.A$23.A111.A12.A32.B75.B$147.B7.B40.B$156.A39.A$27.A.A$27.
2A$28.A$22.2A$22.2A128.B91.B$21.B129.A92.A3$257.AB3$255.A$255.B2$246.
A$246.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: August 24th, 2024, 10:50 am
by pzq_alex
G -> Π with fairly good clearance:

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x = 10, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
7.A.A$7.2A$8.A$2.2A$BA2.A.2A$3.2A.A$2.B.A.AB$3.B.A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: August 24th, 2024, 11:51 am
by ababa11e
Tiny p19:

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$2.A.B$3.A$BA.2A.B$A.2A2.BA3$5.B$5.A!
2nd p19:

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x = 8, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
.AB2$2.A3.BA$.A.A$A.A$.B.2A$2A3.A$A$2.A.2A$.B2.2A.B$.A2B2.BA$4.AB!
p20:

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x = 11, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$6.B3.B$5.2B2.B$A3.2B2.2B$.B3.B.B$2.A.A2.A$3.B!
p21:

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x = 6, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
.A$.B$.2B.2A$.B.B.B$2B.BA$.2B4$2A2.B$BA3.A!
p28:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$3.2B2.BA$B2.B2.B.B$AB.B6.A$4.2B.B.AB$.B4.2B2.A$.A6.B$6.2A$7.B!
p33:

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x = 36, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis
12.A$12.B$4.B6.A.AB$4.A5.AB.B$10.B2.A$9.B2.2BA$BA9.B$8.2B3.B$6.2B.2B.
A2$2.A$2.A2B2.B.A$3.B3.3A$3.B.B.A$4.A.A$4.B6$34.2A!
p84:

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x = 8, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$2.A.A$B.B.B$A.B$2.2B$B.A.A$.A5.A2$5.2A$.6A$2.5A!
p90:

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x = 36, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis
12.A$12.B$4.B6.A.AB$4.A5.AB.B$10.B2.A$9.B2.2BA$BA9.B$8.2B3.B$6.2B.2B.
A2$2.A$2.A2B2.B.A$3.A3.3A$3.B.B.A$4.A.A$4.B6$34.2A!
p299:

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x = 15, y = 17, rule = Symbiosis
5.2A.B5.A$.B5.B3.2B.B$.AB.B5.A2.B$2.3B7.A$2.A.B.A5.BA$2.B2.B3.B3.A$7.
B2.A$2A5.B.B.B$.B4.B3.B$6.3B$7.BA$.A4.B.B$2.B4.B.B$9.A$4.A$4.B7.BA$4.
B!
p328:

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = Symbiosis
3.A.B$2.2B.A$6.ABA$5.2A.B$5.A.A.B$.B4.3A.BA$AB8.B$2.A5.2A.BA$.A7.2A.B
$.B6.A2.A2.B$.BA5.3A3.A$2.B.BA2.2A4.B$.A.A.A8.A2.B$2.B11.A.A$4.B2.A5.
2A$4.A2.B7.B$13.BA$12.BA!
All i found from soups and reduced [except for 2 i made form accident while reducing natural ones]

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: August 25th, 2024, 1:57 pm
by ababa11e
H to B thats TINY

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x = 8, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$3.3A$3.A.A$5.A5$B$A6.A$6.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: August 26th, 2024, 6:01 pm
by b-engine
ababa11e wrote: August 25th, 2024, 1:57 pm H to B thats TINY

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x = 8, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$3.3A$3.A.A$5.A5$B$A6.A$6.B!
Accidental conduit when trying to kill the block made by B:

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x = 14, y = 38, rule = Symbiosis
A$.B23$4.A$3.B$10.3A$12.A$11.3A3$4.AB5$9.B$8.A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: August 26th, 2024, 7:52 pm
by CARuler
block hassler:

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x = 209, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
$2.2A46.2A101.2A46.2A$2.2A46.2A13.2A71.2A13.2A46.2A$8.3A.A.A.A.A.A.A.
A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.4A10.A.A.A6.A.A.A4.A.A.A.A.A.2A4.A.A5.A5.A.A4.2A.
A.A.A.A.A4.A.A.A6.A.A.A10.4A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.3A$7.A.187A
.A$7.B.187B.B$8.3B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.4B10.B.B.B6.B.B.B4.
B.B.B.B.B.2B4.B.B5.B5.B.B4.2B.B.B.B.B.B4.B.B.B6.B.B.B10.4B.B.B.B.B.B.
B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.3B$2.2B46.2B13.2B71.2B13.2B46.2B$2.2B46.2B101.2B
46.2B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: August 27th, 2024, 3:48 am
by b-engine
CARuler wrote: August 26th, 2024, 7:52 pm block hassler:
Here's the main part, p11:

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
7.2A$7.2A$A10.4A.A$17A$17B$B10.4B.B$7.2B$7.2B!
 

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: September 14th, 2024, 7:28 pm
by hotcrystal0
P58 double-barreled gun, based on an oscillator in regular Life:

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x = 17, y = 20, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$6.2A$6.2A$16.A$16.B4$7.A$6.3A$5.5A$4.2A3.2A$3.3A3.3A$4.2A3.2A$5.5A
$B5.3A$A6.3A$9.2A$9.2A$9.B!
hotcrystal0 wrote: September 14th, 2024, 7:12 pm P58 honey farm hassler (found by hand): edit: slightly reduced eater welds

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x = 83, y = 120, rule = B3/S23
39b2o$39bobo$41bo4b2o$37b4ob2o2bo2bo$37bo2bobobobob2o$40bobobobo$41b2o
bobo$45bo2$31b2o7b3o$32bo6bo3bo$32bobo4bo3bo$33b2o2b2o5b2o$36bo4bo4bo
$36bo3bobo3bo$36bo4bob2obo$37b3o24bo$62b3o$61bo$43b2o16b2o$43bo$44b3o
$46bo22b2o$70bo$30b3o37bob2o$32bo26bob3o4b3o2bo$31bo28b4o3bo3b2o$58b3o
6b4o$53b2o15bo$52bobo12b3o$52bo13bo$51b2o14b5o$10b2o59bo$11bo57bo$9bo
59b2o$9b5o14b2o$14bo13bo$11b3o12bobo$10bo15b2o$10b4o7b3o26bo24bo$8b2o
3bo5b2ob2o26bobo22b3o$7bo2b3o8bo28b2o26bo$7b2obo58b2o6b2o$10bo59bo$10b
2o25bo22b2o8bobo$37b3o20b2o9b2o$40bo$18b2o19bobo$19bo20bo$16b3o29b2o25b
o$16bo31b2o24b3o$17bobo21b2o30b2obo2b2o$16b2ob3o11b3o5b2o35b3o$22bo10b
o37b3o3b3o$13b2o6b2o11bo28b3o3b3o$14bo47b3o$4b2o8bobo6b3o36b2o2bob2o$
4b2o9b2o5bo2bo40b3o$22bo3bo15bo24bo$21bo19b3o$22b2o3b2o11b5o$24bo5bo8b
2o3b2o$25bo4bo7b3o3b3o23b2o9b2o$5b3o16bo5bo8b2o3b2o24bobo8b2o$5bo2bo13b
2o3b2o11b5o27bo$4bo3bo12bo19b3o20b2o6b2o$9bo12bo3bo15b3o19bo$2b2o3b2o
13bo2bo18b2o19b3ob2o$o5bo16b3o18b2o21bobo$o4bo31b2o31bo$o5bo30b2o6bo22b
3o$2b2o3b2o36b2o20bo$9bo37bo19b2o$4bo3bo37bo11bobo$5bo2bo5b2o9b2o20b3o
9b2o$5b3o6bobo8b2o22bo9bo15b2o$16bo59bo$8b2o6b2o58bob2o$8bo59b2o4b3o2b
o$9b3o56b2o3bo3b2o$11bo61b4o$59b2o15bo$58bobo12b3o$58bo13bo$57b2o14b5o
$16b2o10bo48bo$17bo10b2o33bo11bo$15bo11bobo31b2o12b2o$15b5o14b2o26b2o
$20bo13bo$17b3o12bobo$16bo15b2o$16b4o$14b2o3bo3b2o$13bo2b3o4b2o$13b2o
bo$16bo$16b2o22bo$40b3o$34b2o7bo$24b2o7b2o7b2o$25bo9bo11bobo$22b3o22b
2o$22bo25bo4$52b2o$45b2o5bobo$45b2o7bo$54b2o2$41bo$40bobob2o$40bobobo
bo$37b2obobobobo2bo$37bo2bo2b2ob4o$39b2o4bo$45bobo$46b2o!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: November 27th, 2024, 10:03 pm
by hotcrystal0
I’m pretty sure it doesn’t matter that I’ve doubleposted, because this thread has been inactive anyway.
P24 banana sparker:

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x = 5, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
.A$B.A$.A$3.A$BA2.A$B4A3$B2A$.2A!
Edit the next day: P43:

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x = 6, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$2.A$3.2A$.B.3A$.2A$2.A2.A$B3.A$.3A$3.B!
It can hassle a blinker:

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x = 13, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$2.A$3.2A5.3A$.B.3A$.2A$2.A2.A$B3.A$.3A$3.B!
Edit 2: Strong catalyst:

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x = 7, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$2.A2$.B.A.2A$.3A.A$.A3.A$3.2A$B3A$3.B!
It can act as a reflector with a repeat time of 48:

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x = 29, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$2.A2$.B.A.2A$.3A.A$.A3.A$3.2A$B3A10.3A$3.B10.A$15.A10$26.3A$26.A$
27.A!
Edit 3: P8:

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.B$.A.2A$BA.2A$5.A$.A$.B!
Edit 4:
pzq_alex wrote: November 7th, 2023, 5:37 am It can, through the same recovery mechanism as the reflector, convert many things to gliders:

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x = 130, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
8.B19.B19.B19.B19.B19.B19.B$8.A19.A19.A19.A19.A19.A19.A$7.2A18.2A12.2A
4.2A18.2A18.2A18.2A19.A$8.AB18.AB10.A2.A4.AB12.2A4.AB18.AB18.AB18.AB$
6.A.A17.A.A11.3A3.A.A13.3A.A.A17.A.A14.A2.A.A19.A$6.2A18.2A18.2A14.2A
2.2A18.2A16.A.2A19.A$.4A2.AB13.3A2.AB18.AB18.AB15.A2.AB14.A3.AB18.AB$
A3.A2.B16.A2.B19.B19.B19.B19.B19.B$4.A19.A$A2.A19.A!
This allows for an extra glider to be extracted from the Snark:

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x = 23, y = 30, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$A.2A$B.2A2$11.B$8.B.4AB$3.2A2.B2A2.A$3.2A4.2A8$.A$.B6.3A$8.A$9.A9$
20.2A$20.A.A$20.A!
Edit 5: Looked for a splitter, ended up with a gun:

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x = 19, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$4.B.4AB$3.B2A2.A$5.2A7$4.2A10.2A$2.A2.2AB8.A.A$B4A.B9.A$3.B!
Edit 6: This is a splitter:

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x = 18, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$3.B.4AB$2.B2A$4.A.A$5.2A6$4.2A9.2A$2.A2.2AB7.A.A$B4A.B8.A$3.B!
Edit 7: Here’s my attempt to extract a signal from the reaction:

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x = 36, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis
2.B$2.2A$6.B$2.2A2.2A17.B$B2.A6.B11.B.4AB$A.B3.2A2.2A9.B2A2.A$4.B2.A6.
B8.2A$4.A.B3.2A2.2A$8.B2.A6.B$8.A.B3.2A2.2A$12.B2.A$12.A.B3.2A$16.B2.
A$16.A.B3.2A10.2A$20.BAB10.2A$35.A!
Edit 8:
hotcrystal0 wrote: October 5th, 2022, 9:20 am I was bored, so I made this glider to half-MW spark.

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x = 12, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$B.B.2AB$A2.2A$6.A$3.4A$2.A.B$.A2.AB4.2A$.3A5.2A$2.B8.A!
Dumb reflector:

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x = 16, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$4.B.B.2AB$4.A2.2A$10.A$7.4A$6.A.B$B2A2.A2.AB4.2A$.2A2.3A5.2A$6.B8.
A!
Edit 9: The catalyst’s recovery can connect to a another catalyst that emits a pipsquirter spark:

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x = 14, y = 18, rule = Symbiosis
12.A$11.A$11.3A3$3.B$2.A2$.B.A.2A$.3A.A$.A3.A$3.2A$B3A4.2A$3.B4.A$9.3A
$8.B.A.A$9.B.2A$11.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: November 29th, 2024, 5:52 pm
by hotcrystal0
This really deserved another post.
The B-to-LWSS conduit doesn’t have good clearance, and the only conduit I could get to connect is RF28B (two variants shown). Here are example connections to RF28B and then the B-to-LWSS:

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x = 92, y = 46, rule = SymbiosisEV2
11.B$11.A$5.B5.2AB$5.A4$11.3H$2G11.H3.A$.2G10.H2.A.A$.G10.H2.A2.A12.3G
6.B$16.2A13.G8.A$30.3G7.AB2$11.2A2.2AB$5.B2.AB2.B.A$5.A8.A.A$13.B.A.A
$17.B66.B$42.B41.A$42.A6.B34.2AB$42.A6.A$43.B5.2AB$43.A25.2G.G$29.BA34.
2A3.3G$30.A34.2A4.G12.3H$30.B42.2H11.H3.A$11.B37.3H22.2H10.H2.A.A$11.
A26.2H11.H3.A18.H10.H2.A2.A$5.B5.2AB25.2H10.H2.A.A32.2A$5.A33.H10.H2.
A2.A9.2A$54.2A11.A$67.B16.2A2.2AB$75.B2AB2.AB2.B.A$11.3H35.2A2.2AB31.
A.A$2G11.H3.A25.B2.AB2.B.A33.B.A.A$.2G10.H2.A.A24.A8.A.A35.B$.G10.H2.
A2.A32.B.A.A$16.2A37.B3$11.2A2.2AB$6.B2AB2.B.A$14.A.A$13.B.A.A$17.B!
Edit (2 days later): HF47B, based on an HF35R:

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
3.B7.B$3.2A5.2A$3.2A5.2A7$A11.A$A.A10.A$3A10.A$2.A9.2A$12.A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: January 9th, 2025, 10:54 am
by LWSSONHWSSONLWSS
180-degree reflector:

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x = 14, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
11.A$10.A$10.3A2$.BA$A$AB2.A$.BAB$.B.B9.B$2B.2B6.BA$12.A$12.2B!
EDIT: p57:

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x = 11, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
4.2BA$4.BA.2B$5.AB4A$7.A2.A$2.2A$3.2A$BA.A3.2AB$.A2.A.A.A$.A.2A3.A$2.
2A2.2A$2.B.2A.B$4.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 11th, 2025, 7:54 am
by Antonin Duda
Was this p12 found before?

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x = 7, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.A$A.A$.2A$B3.2A$.A.A2.A$2.B.2A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 11th, 2025, 8:08 am
by confocaloid
Antonin Duda wrote: February 11th, 2025, 7:54 am Was this p12 found before? [...]
For low-period oscillators in Symbiosis (or StateInvestigator for that matter), I think nobody is keeping track of what is or is not known. There are just way too many of them.

Even for high periods there are lots and lots of oscillators. Having a way to create an "indestructible catalyst" leads to a big increase in possibilities: unlike with usual catalysts, here you no longer need to worry that the catalyst will fail to recover.

Here are some relevant quotes from other people
Hdjensofjfnen wrote: September 13th, 2020, 9:54 pm A versatile catalyst found in many oscillators:

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x = 5, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
2.B$AB.BA$2.B3$2B$.2B$B!
The rule also seems to have a seemingly endless trove of high-period oscillators, so many that I don't think it'll ever be possible to enumerate them all: [...]
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: June 17th, 2022, 11:44 am [...]
By the way, I don't really care too much about oscillators in StateInvestigator, as there are soooooo many of them (too much to keep track of).

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 11th, 2025, 10:37 am
by Antonin Duda
confocaloid wrote: February 11th, 2025, 8:08 am For low-period oscillators in Symbiosis (or StateInvestigator for that matter), I think nobody is keeping track of what is or is not known. There are just way too many of them.
Are Glider Syntheses more interesting?

Here are many glider syntheses that i found:

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x = 238, y = 169, rule = Symbiosis
130.2A$127.B2.A$91.A37.3B$92.2A38.B$10.B36.B31.A11.2A32.B.B2.B.B$8.2B
35.2B31.A.A41.2A.2B.2A.B$9.2B35.2B30.A2.A33.A6.2A4.A.A$76.2B2.A10.B
12.A11.2A$A10.A25.A10.A26.B2.B10.B.B10.A.A10.2A74.A$.2A7.A27.2A7.A11.
2B14.B.2B11.2B11.2A44.A22.A.A15.A.A$2A8.3A9.2B13.2A8.3A10.B15.B37.B
22.A11.A.A21.2A16.A$23.B35.2A15.A35.B.B20.A.A11.2A22.A18.B$21.3A31.2A
19.2A35.2B21.2A54.B2.B.A$20.A2.A31.A2.A38.2B93.B3.2A$20.A35.6A28.2A4.
2B$21.2A36.B29.A.A6.B22.2B12.B$18.3B.A35.2B31.A28.2B11.B.B21.A$18.B2.
B92.2A6.B11.2B19.A.A$19.2B92.A.A40.2A$6.2B37.2B68.A$5.2B37.2B96.2B$7.
B38.B94.2B12.B$135.2A6.B9.B.B$134.A.A11.2A4.2B$78.A18.B38.A9.B.A$79.
2A15.B.B48.2B$78.2A16.B2.B44.B4.B2A10.2B$86.2B9.2B52.A9.2B$85.2B8.2A
47.2B2.2B5.2A6.B3.3A$87.B6.A2.A17.B.A.A26.2A.B4.A.A10.A$98.A14.2B3.2A
26.A.A7.A11.A$99.B14.2B2.A4.B38.2A27.2B8.2B$123.B.B6.2A28.A27.B.B7.2B
$123.2B7.A.B26.2B29.B9.B$89.3B41.2B29.2A$89.B42.B25.B3.B2.A$13.B76.B
23.A17.B2.B13.A8.2B2.B.B$11.2B8.2B41.B49.2A17.3B14.2A8.2A.2B$12.2B8.B
23.2B14.2B10.A38.A.A16.A3.A12.2A9.A.A$20.3A24.B15.2B10.2A9.A48.2A$3.A
10.A8.A.B20.A27.2A8.A.A61.B35.2A$4.2A7.A9.A2B20.2A5.A10.A20.2A40.2A
17.B.B34.A.A$3.2A8.3A3.A3.A13.2B6.A.A6.2A7.A62.2A19.2B36.A$18.B.A2.A
13.2B4.4A6.2A8.3A35.A26.A42.3A$18.2B.2A20.A.B38.B14.A.A71.A$45.2B35.B
.B15.2A53.2B15.A$83.2B25.A43.2B$110.2A36.2A6.B$109.A.A21.2A12.A.A$91.
2B24.A14.A.A14.A$90.2B26.2A14.A17.2A27.B3.A$19.2B63.2A6.B24.2A33.A7.
2A20.B3.2A16.B$10.B8.B.B32.2B27.A.A67.B6.A19.3B2.2A15.2B$9.2B8.B23.2B
10.2B28.A30.B7.2A8.2A21.B.3B41.2B$9.B.B30.B.B9.B40.2A17.B.B7.A.B7.A
21.B5.B$44.B48.B.A19.2B14.B.3B20.2B2.B.B25.A$93.3B34.B5.B21.2A.B24.A.
A$88.2A6.B33.2B2.B.B21.A.A26.2A$88.2A4.2B.B25.2B7.2A.B$79.A12.B2.B.B
24.2B8.A.A$77.2A14.2A.B19.2A6.B$78.2A13.A.A19.A.A$60.A56.A$61.A$59.3A
124.2A$186.A.A$80.A107.A$73.B4.A.A101.2B4.A2B7.3B$71.2B6.2A83.2B16.2B
4.A.B7.B$72.2B88.2A.B20.2A11.B$161.A2.A21.A.B$161.3A23.2B$159.2B$159.
2B$76.2B86.A$38.B11.B25.B.B86.2B34.2B.2A.2B$37.B.B4.B6.2B23.B88.2B34.
B.A2.A.B$31.2B3.A.B3.B.B5.2B72.B77.4A$31.2B3.3A4.2B16.A60.B.B$33.A3.
2A22.2A60.2B44.B.B$20.B39.A.A8.2A96.2B44.B$17.A.B.B45.2A2.2A65.A24.A
6.B22.B.B19.B.B$8.B8.2A.B26.2A4.2A12.A69.A23.A.A30.2B19.2B$9.2B8.2A
25.A.A3.2A14.2B67.3A22.2A30.B$8.2B8.A.A27.A5.A13.B142.A$69.2B138.2A$
68.A.B139.2A$18.A17.B31.2A$17.B19.2B106.2A54.A$5.2A4.2A23.2B105.2B.A
52.A.A$4.A.A3.2A14.B118.B54.2A$6.A5.A12.B.B117.B10.3B$24.A.B47.B59.2B
5.B.B14.B$24.3A31.B14.B.B57.2B6.2B.A12.B14.2B$8.2B17.A5.2A4.2A18.2B
11.A.B16.A.A30.2B9.B7.2A26.2B$8.B.B13.2A6.A.A3.2A18.2B11.A.2A17.2A29.
B.B47.B$8.B16.A8.A5.A31.A2.A16.A32.B37.A$26.B47.A61.3A25.2A16.B$25.2B
43.A2.A62.A26.2A15.2B$69.B2.A.B15.2A45.A43.2B$41.2B12.2A4.2A10.2B14.A
.A132.A$40.2B12.A.A3.2A29.A27.A46.A39.A17.A.A$42.B13.A5.A19.2B36.2A
42.A.A40.A16.2A$81.B.B35.2A44.2A38.3A$11.B14.B56.B14.2B37.2A$2.B9.2B
8.2A.B.B70.B.B36.A.B44.2A$B.B8.2B11.A.B8.A27.3B32.B39.B46.A2B$.2B15.
2B5.2A6.A.A27.B78.B.A36.A3.A.B$18.B.A3.A.A7.2A11.B16.B22.2B49.2B3.2A
35.B3.A51.2A$20.A.A2.A21.2B37.B2.2A47.2B42.2A.B49.B.A$46.B.B38.A.A.A
44.2A46.2B43.2A4.2B$8.2A4.2A74.2A44.2A91.2A$7.A.A3.2A74.2A15.A59.A64.
2B$9.A5.A12.2A59.A.B13.A61.2A7.3B51.B.B$29.2A59.2B13.3A50.2B6.2A8.B
36.2B8.2B4.A.2B2.B$28.A130.2B16.B34.B.B7.2B5.2A3.B.A$158.B55.B9.B10.
2A2$205.2A$77.A.2B123.A.A$78.B2.B124.A$77.B$77.B61.2B8.2B76.A$76.A61.
B.B7.2B76.2A$75.A.AB.B.A57.B9.B75.A.A$76.A2.B.2A3$53.2B8.2B$52.B.B7.
2B$54.B9.B$132.2A$131.A.A$59.2A72.A52.2B8.2B$59.2A124.B.B7.2B$61.B
125.B9.B$61.B$46.2A44.2B8.2B$45.A.A15.B.A25.B.B7.2B$47.A13.2B.2A27.B
9.B86.2A$61.B128.A.2B$61.B129.2B$179.2A14.B.A$178.A.A15.2A$180.A$31.
3A158.B$33.A51.2A104.A$32.A51.A.A104.2A$86.A$108.A$72.2A34.2A$71.A.A
33.A.A$73.A2$165.A$165.2A$164.A.A10$53.2A$52.A.A$54.A!


Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 15th, 2025, 10:31 am
by hth3
Pi to bookend

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
B.A.B$.A.A$.A.A$2.A4.BA$9.A$8.BA$10.B$9.AB$.3A$.A.A$.A.A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 15th, 2025, 10:35 am
by hth3
Long barge

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x = 19, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
8.A$.B7.A5.A$2.B4.3A4.A$3B11.3A4$10.2A$4.3B3.A.A3.3A$6.B3.A5.A$5.B11.
A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 15th, 2025, 8:17 pm
by pifricted
More syntheses:

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 x = 68, y = 94, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$2.A$2.3A$14.2A15.2A$15.A9.3A4.A$15.B11.A4.B$14.2B10.A4.2B$2.3B$2.
B$3.B9$.B$2.B$3B$17.A$7.3A4.2B2A$7.A6.B$8.A5$2.A$3.A$.3A$15.2A14.2A$15.
2A.B12.2A.B10.2A12.2A$8.B8.2B14.2B10.2A.B3.B6.2A.B$7.2B38.2B2.2B8.2B$
7.B.B41.B.B12.B$38.B26.2B$37.2B26.B.B$37.B.B8$3.A$4.A$2.3A$14.2A29.2A
$14.A.B13.2A13.A.B$7.2B6.2B13.A.B13.2B$7.B.B21.2B$7.B$27.2B11.2B$28.2B
11.2B$27.B12.B6$3.A$4.A$2.3A12.2A$17.A.B2$10.B$9.2B$9.B.B8$18.2B$10.B
6.A.B$5.A4.B.B$3.A.A4.2B$4.2A7$5.A$3.A.A12.2A.B$4.2A4.B7.A.B.B$8.2B9.
B.B$9.2B8.2B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 15th, 2025, 10:25 pm
by pifricted
There are many alien still lifes, but many of them are unsynthesizable:

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x = 50, y = 42, rule = Symbiosis
A2.A$B3.B4$8.B3.B3.B$A3.AB2.A2.A3.A$2B2.B3.B2.B2.B6$2A2.AB2.BA3.BA3.2B
2.2A2.BA$AB2.AB2.AB2.AB3.BA2.2B2.BA4$BAB2.2BA2.ABA14.2A3.BA3.BA$.A4.A
4.A3.A2BA2.ABAB2.A.B2.A.B2.B.B3$9.B5.A$.B.A4.A5.B4.B5.A4.B4.B4.B$A.B4.
B5.B4.B.A3.B.B2.A.A2.A.B2.A.A$6.A5.A4.A5.A6.A4.A4.B3$26.B4.B2.AB4.AB$
2.B5.B4.2B4.BA3.A.A2.B.A4.B5.A$AB.A2.BA.A2.A2.A2.A2.B3.B4.A6.A5.B4$AB
4.AB4.AB3.AB20.A4.A4.A$2.BA4.AB4.B4.A2.ABA2.BAB2.A2B2.AB3.2B3.AB$14.A
4.B4.A4.A4.A2.A4.A4.B3$2.B4.B4.A2.A5.A$BA3.BA3.AB4.2B4.BA$.B4.A5.A5.A
5.B!
For example, this still life:

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x = 1, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
B$A$B!
Edit: three more 2G synthesis:

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x = 45, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
22.A$.A21.A18.A$2.A18.3A19.A$3A38.3A4$24.3B$5.3B16.B17.3B$5.B19.B16.B
$6.B36.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 16th, 2025, 11:39 am
by hth3
b-engine wrote: August 24th, 2024, 8:04 am (Revival)
P92:

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x = 18, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
15.A$12.A.B.AB$10.2B$7.A.B.B$6.BA3.B$6.A.B.2B$3.AB$.A11.A$B12.B$2B$3.
B$4.A$3.AB!
 
There's a catalyst in the p92:

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x = 9, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$3.AB$.A4.3B$B5.B$2B4.3B$3.B$4.A$3.AB!
Found another oscillator

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x = 18, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
15.A$12.A.B.AB$10.2B$7.A.B.B$6.BA3.B$6.A.B.2B$3.AB$.A11.A$B12.B$2B$3.
B$4.A$3.AB$10.2B$10.2B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 16th, 2025, 1:50 pm
by hotcrystal0
P36 traffic light/pi hassler:

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x = 10, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
8.AB2$AB4$5.A$5.A$4.A.A$5.A2.BA$5.A$BA!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 16th, 2025, 1:52 pm
by confocaloid
Question: does anyone currently maintain any collections (of what is already known in this CA), for any specific kind of objects or components or devices?

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 16th, 2025, 5:57 pm
by hotcrystal0
PF47B:

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
2.3A$.A2.2A4$B$A$4.3A$4.A.A$4.A.A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 17th, 2025, 10:21 am
by hth3
P24:

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
4.BA$.2A.B.B$B2.A3.A$A3.A.B$.3A.B$2.A!
Reduction:

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x = 7, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$.2A.B$B2.A$A3.A$.3A.B$2.A!
Probably already known.

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: February 17th, 2025, 8:21 pm
by hotcrystal0
BF22P is not as useless in Symbiosis as it is in regular Life. Here's an example connection to a pi-to-e9jp:

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x = 13, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$4.A4$7.AB5$7.2A$7.2A2$10.2AB$10.A$2.A$.3A$2A.A4.A$8.B!
Edit: Even the PT9B connection from regular Life has some uses, thanks to a BFx10B conduit:

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x = 16, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
5.2A$5.2A3$11.B$10.2A$10.2A4$.B8.2A$A9.2A2$13.2AB$13.A$5.A$4.3A$3.2A.
A4.A$11.B!