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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: January 8th, 2022, 12:22 pm
by EvinZL
Yet another Fx119 variant, doesn't seem too useful...
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x = 31, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
25.A$23.3A$9.2A11.A$10.A11.2A$10.A.AB2.2B.5B$11.2AB.7B$13.10B$13.11B$
13.11B$13.12B2.2A$10.15B.A2.A$9.18B3A$9.16B.B$9.17BAB2A$9.15B.B2A2.A$
7.18B.B2.2A$5.19B$5.2BD15B$4.3BDBD15B$5.2B3D4B.10B$4.5BD4B2.7B.B2A$3.
10B4.6B.BA.A$2.5B9.7B4.A$.4B12.6B4.2A$4B13.7B$3B14.6B$2B14.6B$B15.6B$
15.8B$16.6B$16.7B$14.14B$12.B.2B2A11BD$11.2A3B2A9B3DB$11.2A14BDBD$12.
15BD$10.5B2.B2.2B2.2B$10.2A4.3B$11.A4.B2AB$8.3A6.2A$8.A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: January 8th, 2022, 2:20 pm
by dvgrn
EvinZL wrote: January 8th, 2022, 12:22 pm
Yet another Fx119 variant, doesn't seem too useful...
Not sure about that -- it might come in handy here and there. This new version allows the output Herschel's glider to escape, which is not the case for previously known suppressed variants of the Fx119:
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x = 147, y = 90, rule = LifeHistory
96.5D9.D5.D4.3D$96.D12.2D4.2D3.D3.D$96.D5.D3.D3.D5.D3.D3.D2.4D$96.3D
4.D.D4.D5.D4.4D.D$96.D7.D5.D5.D7.D.D$96.D6.D.D4.D5.D7.D.D$96.D5.D3.D
2.3D3.3D3.3D3.4D5$20.5D9.D5.D4.3D2.D$20.D12.2D4.2D3.D3.D.D$20.D5.D3.D
3.D5.D3.D3.D.4D$20.3D4.D.D4.D5.D4.4D.D3.D$20.D7.D5.D5.D7.D.D3.D$20.D
6.D.D4.D5.D7.D.D3.D$20.D5.D3.D2.3D3.3D3.3D2.4D10$42.A$40.3A$39.A$39.
2A$22.2A12.5B2.2A57.2A$23.A11.4B3.B2AB57.A13.2A$23.A.AB7.6B3.2B58.A.A
B9.B2A2B$24.2AB.3B3.7B3.2B58.2AB.3B6.4B$26.16B.2BAB59.7B2.6B$26.18BA.
A59.14B$27.17B.A61.15B2.B$26.16B4.3A57.16B.B2A$24.17B7.A55.20B2A$22.
19B61.20B.2B$22.2BD15B62.2BD18B$21.3BDBD4B.9B60.3BDBD4B.11B$22.2B3D4B
2.9B3.B56.2B3D4B2.9B$21.5BD4B2.10B.B2A54.5BD4B2.7B$20.10B.14B2A53.10B
4.6B$19.4B7.16B53.4B10.7B$19.3B8.16B53.3B12.6B$17.4B8.15B53.4B13.6B$
17.2A11.10B57.2A15.6B$18.A12.8B59.A14.6B$15.3A15.7B55.3A15.6B$15.A16.
9B54.A16.8B$33.9B71.6B8.B$33.10B70.7B2.B2.5B$31.14B66.20B$29.B.2B2A
11BD62.B.2B2A11BDB2AB$28.2A3B2A9B3DB60.2A3B2A9B3DB2AB$28.2A14BDBD61.
2A14BDBD4B$29.15BD64.15BD6B$27.5B2.B2.2B2.2B64.5B2.B2.2B2.10B$27.2A4.
3B71.2A4.3B7.4B2.B$28.A3.B2AB72.A3.B2AB$25.3A5.2A70.3A5.2A$25.A79.A
10$23.D2.D3.3D2.5D.D66.D2.3D3.3D2.D$22.D2.2D2.D9.D2.D64.D2.D5.D3.D2.D
$21.D4.D2.D8.D4.D62.D3.D5.D2.2D3.D$21.D4.D2.4D4.D5.D62.D3.4D2.D.D.D3.
D$21.D4.D2.D3.D2.D6.D62.D3.D3.D.2D2.D3.D$22.D3.D2.D3.D.D6.D64.D2.D3.D
.D3.D2.D$23.D.3D2.3D2.D5.D66.D2.3D3.3D2.D2$2.D14.3D3.3D26.D6.D2.D21.D
14.3D3.3D26.D6.D2.D$.D2.D3.D.5D.D3.D.D3.D4.D3.D2.5D8.2D5.2D3.D19.D2.D
3.D.5D.D3.D.D3.D4.D3.D2.5D8.2D5.2D3.D$D4.D.D12.D.D2.2D4.D3.D16.D4.D.D
4.D17.D4.D.D12.D.D2.2D4.D3.D16.D4.D.D4.D$D5.D12.D2.D.D.D4.D3.D8.5D3.D
3.D2.D4.D17.D5.D12.D2.D.D.D4.D3.D8.5D3.D3.D2.D4.D$D4.D.D10.D3.2D2.D5.
4D16.D3.5D3.D17.D4.D.D10.D3.2D2.D5.4D16.D3.5D3.D$.D2.D3.D.5D2.D4.D3.D
2.D5.D2.5D9.D6.D3.D19.D2.D3.D.5D2.D4.D3.D2.D5.D2.5D9.D6.D3.D$2.D13.5D
2.3D3.D5.D15.3D5.D2.D21.D13.5D2.3D3.D5.D15.3D5.D2.D$28.D3.3D75.D3.3D!
The unsuppressed version of the Fx119 also lets that glider out, of course, but it has a somewhat bigger reaction envelope at the top. I don't think there was a known way to get an Fx119 output while suppressing the standard NW31 glider output
and staying inside the new variant's bounding box:
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x = 31, y = 49, rule = LifeHistory
11.4B$12.4B$13.4B$14.4B$15.4B$16.4B$17.4B$15.7B$13.9B3.A$12.11B3A$9.
2A2.9BA3B$10.A2.9B2A3B$10.A.AD2B2DB5D4B$11.2ADB7D6B$11.2B10D6B$10.3B
11D5B$10.3B11D6B$11.2B12D2B2A2B$9.B15DBA2BA$9.18D3A$9.16DBDB$9.17DAD
2A$9.15DBD2A2.A$7.18DBD2.2A$5.19D2B$5.18D3B$4.21D$5.9DB10D$4.10D2B7D.
D2A$3.10D4B6D.DA.A$2.5D3.6B7D4.A$.4D4.4B4.6D4.2A$4D4.4B5.7D$3D4.4B6.
6D$2D4.4B6.6D$D4.4B7.6D$4.4B7.8D$3.4B9.6D$16.7D$14.14D$12.D.2D2A12D$
11.2A3D2A13D$11.2A17D$12.16D$10.5D2.D2.2D2.2D$10.2A4.3DB$11.A4.D2AD$
8.3A6.2A$8.A!
This new variant has the usual repeat time of 231 ticks if that glider is allowed to escape, or 102 ticks if it's suppressed by a dependent conduit or some such. It also has the ability to cleanly suppress signals that are following 99 or 100 ticks behind another signal -- if that's ever any use. Looks like the old F116 conduit has a similar ability for signals separated by 133 ticks; probably there are other known conduits with similar suppression abilities.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: January 16th, 2022, 11:50 pm
by MathAndCode
Here is a new H->B conduit, whose systematic name is HF132B.
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x = 27, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
24.2D$15.2A8.2D$15.2A7.2D$24.D6$22.2A$22.2A14$C$C.C$3C$2.C10.2A3.2A$11.
A2.A4.A$11.3A4.A$18.2A$11.3A$11.A2.A$13.2A!
Getting the glider output (which would also be new) looks possible, but I haven't found a way to do it.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: January 17th, 2022, 12:17 am
by Jormungant
Very nice! Though there is an eater missing in what your pasted for it to be a conduit... the main b-to-h follow up works just fine otherwise:
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x = 49, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
26.7B.B$26.13B.B$24.D21B$25.D21BD$15.2A6.2B2D18B3DB$15.2A5.2B2D2B2A15B
DBD$22.2BD3B2A15BD$24.11B3.2B2.2B$24.10B$25.6B$26.3B$26.B$22.2A.2A$22.
2A.A$27.A$26.2A12$C$C.C15.B4.2A$3C15.B4.A.B$2.C10.2A3.2A4.3A$11.A2.A4.
A6.A$11.3A4.A$18.2A$11.3A$11.A2.A$13.2A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: January 17th, 2022, 12:19 am
by JP21
Stator minimization:
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x = 30, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$15b2o11b2o$28b2o6$22b2ob2o$22b2obo$25bo$25b2o12$o$obo20b2o$3o20b
o$2bo10b2o3b2o4b3o$11bo2bo4bo6bo$11b3o3bo$17b2o$11b2obo$11bob2o!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: January 17th, 2022, 8:09 am
by dvgrn
Jormungant wrote: January 17th, 2022, 12:17 am
Very nice! Though there is an eater missing in what your pasted for it to be a conduit... the main b-to-h follow up works just fine otherwise...
Yes, great find! There aren't all that many known Fx conduits that recover as quickly as this new Fx191. The output Herschel's glider lane is transparent, which isn't all that common with newly discovered Herschel conduits -- those various clever new catalysts get in the way a lot. The input Herschel's glider lane isn't _quite_ transparent, unfortunately, but two adjacent lanes are, which is also fairly rare. It connects directly to a syringe with no problem, and has a sub-100-tick repeat time (94).
I think my favorite feature is that this Fx191 has a similar geometry to the Fx77, but a different output color -- so now Fx77 and Fx191 can usefully substitute for each other to fix color problems, the same way that L112 and L156 can:
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x = 120, y = 65, rule = LifeHistory
16.5D7.5D.5D37.5D9.D3.3D3.D$16.D15.D5.D37.D12.2D2.D3.D.2D$16.D5.D3.D
4.D5.D38.D5.D3.D3.D2.D3.D2.D$16.3D4.D.D4.D5.D39.3D4.D.D4.D3.4D2.D$16.
D7.D4.D5.D40.D7.D5.D6.D2.D$16.D6.D.D2.D5.D41.D6.D.D4.D6.D2.D$16.D5.D
3.D.D5.D41.D5.D3.D2.3D2.3D2.3D4$96.7B.B$92.B3.13B.B$91.3BD21B$90.5BD
21BD$85.2A3.5B2D18B3DB$84.B2AB2.4B2D2B2A15BDBD$19.A65.2B2.5BD3B2A15BD
$19.3A12.B.3B.B42.B2.19B3.2B2.2B$22.A10.13B36.9B3.10B$21.2A3.B5.2B2A
11BD32.11B4.6B$21.8B3.2B2A9B3DB31.13B3.3B$23.8B.13BDBD31.14B3.B$23.
22BD32.14B2A.2A$22.15B.2B2.2B34.14B2A.A$20.17B42.14B2.A$18.18B43.11B
5.2A$18.2BD15B42.12B$17.3BDBD4B.7B40.16B$18.2B3D13B38.16B$17.5BD14B
37.16B$16.10B2.8B37.16B$15.4B11.6B36.20B$15.3B12.5B37.20B$13.4B14.4B
38.20B$13.2A16.3B38.22B$14.A17.4B34.24B$11.3A20.2A32.25B$11.A22.A33.
2BD13B.10B$35.3A30.2BDBD4B.7B2.2B4.2A$37.A30.2B3D4B2.3B.B4.B4.A.B$68.
4BD4B4.2B2A3.2A4.3A$68.8B4.BA2.A4.A6.A$68.B12.3A4.A$88.2A$81.3A$81.A
2.A$83.2A3$18.D.5D.5D.D46.D2.3D5.D2.D$17.D2.D9.D2.D44.D2.D3.D3.2D3.D$
16.D3.D8.D4.D42.D3.D3.D2.D.D4.D$16.D4.3D4.D5.D42.D4.4D.D2.D4.D$16.D7.
D2.D6.D42.D7.D.5D3.D$17.D2.D3.D.D6.D44.D6.D4.D3.D$18.D2.3D2.D5.D46.D
2.3D5.D2.D2$2.D14.3D2.5D18.3D2.D12.D16.D2.5D18.3D2.5D.D$.D2.D3.D.5D.D
3.D.D8.D3.D2.5D.D3.D2.D10.D2.D3.D.5D3.2D2.D8.D3.D2.5D.D3.D.D6.D$D4.D.
D12.D.D8.D3.D8.D3.D3.D8.D4.D.D9.D.D2.D8.D3.D12.D.D7.D$D5.D12.D3.3D5.D
3.D9.3D4.D8.D5.D9.D2.D3.3D5.D3.D11.D3.3D4.D$D4.D.D10.D7.D5.4D8.D3.D3.
D8.D4.D.D8.5D5.D5.4D10.D7.D3.D$.D2.D3.D.5D2.D4.D3.D2.D5.D2.5D.D3.D2.D
10.D2.D3.D.5D4.D2.D3.D2.D5.D2.5D2.D4.D3.D2.D$2.D13.5D2.3D3.D5.D9.3D2.
D12.D16.D3.3D3.D5.D8.5D2.3D2.D$28.D3.3D54.D3.3D!
Are there any other connections possible besides BFx59H? I'm seeing some near misses that might allow for improbable engineered rescues, but nothing that's really any good:
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x = 79, y = 115, rule = LifeHistory
25.A$25.3A$21.A6.A12.2A$21.3A3.2A12.A$24.A2.4B7.BA.A$23.2A4.B2A3.2A.B
2A$23.7B2AB.B2A2B$25.8B2.4B$24.8B.6B$23.BD13B2.B$22.3BD7BD4B.B2A$15.
2A4.4B2D13B2A$15.2A4.3B2D12B.2B$22.2BD8B2D2BD$23.8B.2B3D2B$24.8B.2BD
4B$25.3B.12B$26.2B2.12B$31.12B$22.2A8.7B.4B$22.2A5.2A2.6B2.4B$29.2A2.
7B2.4B$33.7B3.4B$33.8B.6B22.B$33.16B20.3D$33.17B19.BDB$33.18B17.2B3D$
34.18B16.5B$37.11B.4B14.7B$36.13B.4B5.2A5.8B$35.20B3.B2AB3.8B$28.2A3.
B.21B3.3B2.9B$28.A.A.2A23B3.B2.4B.6B$30.A.A.B.30B.7B$C28.2A.A.A38B$C.
C15.B4.2A8.2A.B.35B$3C15.B4.A.B11.32B2A3B$2.C10.2A3.2A4.3A10.32B2A2B$
11.A2.A4.A6.A9.36B$11.3A4.A15.A35B$18.2A12.3A2.7B.22B2.2B$11.3A17.A5.
7B3.7B.8B.2B2.B2AB$11.A2.A16.2A4.7B4.5B5.6B5.2A$13.2A22.5B6.4B8.4B$
35.2AB.2B7.4B7.B2A2B$34.A.AB10.B2AB8.2A$34.A14.2A$33.2A17$52.2E$53.E$
40.E11.E$40.3E9.2E$43.E9.B$30.2E10.2E9.3B$31.E10.5B5.6B16.5B$31.E.EB
9.4B3.10B11.7B$32.2EB.3B4.6B2.11B3.2B2.10B$34.7B.9BD3B2E15BD6B$34.17B
2D2B2E15BDBD4B$35.17B2D18B3D4B$34.18BD21BD4B$32.19BD26B$25.2B2.19B.B
3.13B.4B$23.9BD13B7.7B.B4.4B$22.2B2D6BDBD4B.6B19.4B$15.2A4.4B2D5B3D4B
2.B.5B16.4B$15.2A4.3B2D8BD4B7.2E15.4B$22.2BD13B8.E15.4B$23.8B16.3E11.
4B$25.5B19.E10.4B$25.5B29.4B$28.3B27.4B$28.4B25.4B$22.2A5.4B23.4B$22.
2A6.4B21.4B$31.4B19.4B$32.4B6.E10.4B$33.4B5.3E7.4B$34.4B7.E5.4B$35.4B
5.2E4.4B$36.4B4.9B$37.4B5.6B$38.4B2.8B$39.15B$40.14B$41.13B$42.10B.B
2E$44.3B2EB3.BE.E$C43.3B2EB6.E$C.C15.B4.2A21.4B6.2E$3C15.B4.A.B20.3B$
2.C10.2A3.2A4.3A16.EB.2B$11.A2.A4.A6.A15.E.EB2EB$11.3A4.A23.E.EBEBEB$
18.2A19.2E.E.E.E.E2.E$11.3A25.E2.E2.2E.4E$11.A2.A26.2E4.E$13.2A32.E.E
$48.2E!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: January 17th, 2022, 7:41 pm
by MathAndCode
dvgrn wrote: January 17th, 2022, 8:09 amAre there any other connections possible besides BFx59H? I'm seeing some near misses that might allow for improbable engineered rescues, but nothing that's really any good:
I think that these are all of them.
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x = 678, y = 79, rule = LifeHistory
654.A$652.3A$651.A$651.2A3$351.A$349.3A$348.A$348.2A285.2D$636.2D$622.
2A12.D$332.2A14.2E273.A$333.A14.E.E271.A$333.A.A13.E272.2A2.2A$256.2A
76.2A289.A.A$256.A363.4A.A$254.A.A363.A2.A.2A$254.2A2$525.A$525.3A$521.
A6.A$521.3A3.2A$438.3D83.A$438.D2.D81.2A5.2A$136.2A304.D87.2A$28.D107.
A302.D.D$27.3D104.A.A303.D$27.D106.2A216.A$24.2D98.2D98.2D98.2D25.A.A
70.2D98.2D7.3D88.2D$15.2A8.2D88.2A8.2D88.2A8.2D88.2A8.2D25.2A61.2A8.2D
88.2A8.2D8.D79.2A8.2D$15.2A7.2D89.2A7.2D89.2A7.2D26.A62.2A7.2D89.2A7.
2D2.2E13.2E70.2A7.2D7.3D79.2A7.2D$24.D99.D99.D26.A.A70.D99.D3.2E13.2E
79.D99.D$251.2A411.A$31.2A98.2A529.3A$25.2A4.A.A91.2A4.A.A95.2E98.2E298.
2E30.A$25.2A5.2A91.2A5.2A95.2E98.2E110.2A186.2E30.2A$441.A$22.2A5.2A91.
2A5.2A91.2A98.2A98.2A.2A15.3A77.2A98.2A$22.2A6.A91.2A6.A91.2A98.2A17.
2A79.2A.A18.A77.2A98.2A$27.3A97.3A212.A84.A$27.A99.A118.2A91.3A84.2A$
238.2A6.A92.A331.A$239.A7.3A419.3A$236.3A10.A391.2A25.A$236.A405.A25.
2A$639.3A4.2A$639.A6.2A6$C99.C99.C99.C99.C99.C99.C57.2E$C.C20.2A75.C.
C20.2A75.C.C20.2A75.C.C20.2A75.C.C20.2A75.C.C20.2A75.C.C20.2A33.2E$3C
20.A76.3C20.A76.3C20.A76.3C20.A76.3C20.A76.3C20.A76.3C20.A$2.C10.2A3.
2A4.3A75.C10.2A3.2A4.3A75.C10.2A3.2A4.3A75.C10.2A3.2A4.3A75.C10.2A3.2A
4.3A75.C10.2A3.2A4.3A75.C10.2A3.2A4.3A$11.A2.A4.A6.A84.A2.A4.A6.A84.A
2.A4.A6.A84.A2.A4.A6.A84.A2.A4.A6.A84.A2.A4.A6.A84.A2.A4.A6.A$11.3A4.
A92.3A4.A92.3A4.A92.3A4.A92.3A4.A92.3A4.A92.3A4.A$18.2A98.2A98.2A98.2A
98.2A98.2A98.2A$11.3A97.3A97.3A97.3A97.3A97.3A97.3A$11.A2.A96.A2.A96.
A2.A96.A2.A96.A2.A96.A2.A96.A2.A61.A$13.2A98.2A98.2A98.2A98.2A98.2A98.
2A60.A.A$676.A4$666.2E3.2A$666.2E3.2A3$658.A.2A$656.3A.2A$655.A11.2A$
656.3A.2A5.A$658.A.A7.3A$658.A.A9.A$659.A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: January 25th, 2022, 11:40 am
by Gustone
SW-2 with a beehive keeper
Code: Select all
x = 17, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory
9.2C$9.C2.2C$10.2C.3C$16.C$10.2C.3C$10.2C.C3$15.C$14.C.C$15.2C2$15.2C
$E13.C.C$E.E12.C$3E$2.E$8.A$7.A.A$7.A.A$8.A$4.2C$5.C$2.3C$2.C!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: January 25th, 2022, 12:02 pm
by dvgrn
Gustone wrote: January 25th, 2022, 11:40 am
SW-2 with a beehive keeper
Code: Select all
x = 17, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory
9.2C$9.C2.2C$10.2C.3C$16.C$10.2C.3C$10.2C.C3$15.C$14.C.C$15.2C2$15.2C
$E13.C.C$E.E12.C$3E$2.E$8.A$7.A.A$7.A.A$8.A$4.2C$5.C$2.3C$2.C!
Hey, that's a very nice find!
It's basically
beehive stopper, but with a Herschel input instead of a glider input. To compensate for the extra expense, this "beehive keeper-stopper" doesn't blow up if you send in repeated signals to place the beehive -- and it can be reset by gliders on two possible lanes three lanes apart, which means that it works for both colors of passing gliders.
Code: Select all
x = 113, y = 70, rule = LifeHistory
54.A$55.A$53.3A3$58.A$59.A$57.3A8$2.A$ABA$.2A$2.B17$62.3B40.2C$62.5B
38.C2.2C$24.B36.6B39.2C.3C$24.2B10.A24.8B43.C$23.4B7.3A24.8B10.A26.2C
.3C$24.4B5.A21.B4.9B8.3A26.2C.C$25.4B4.2A19.3B3.11B5.A$18.2A6.9B17.6B
2.13B3.2A21.A$19.A7.6B13.4B2.7B.13B4.B22.A10.C$19.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.
28B5.3B18.3A9.C.C$20.A2.A4.19BD25B3.6B29.2C$21.2AB3.6BA13BDBD23B2.10B
$22.9BABA2B2A9B3DB2A21B.11B3.2B2.2B8.A7.2C$23.9B2A2B2A11BDB2A22BA3B2A
15BD7.A5.C.C$24.51B2A2B2A15BDBD3.3A6.C$24.17B.B5.28B2A18B3DB$25.15B
10.B2.23BA21BD$25.15B12.23BA21B7.A$26.13B12.24B2.13B.4B8.A.A$28.13B9.
25B2.7B.B6.2B9.A.A$27.8B4.2A.A6.2A2B.20B18.B11.A$27.6B6.2AB3A3.ABAB2.
18B17.2A9.2C$27.5B8.B4.A.BA2B4.18B.B15.A10.C$27.B.B9.2A.3A.B2AB6.18B
2A11.3A8.3C$28.3B9.A.A3.3B7.18B2A11.A10.C$27.B2AB9.A.A3.2B8.3B3.13B$
28.2A11.A4.B10.B2.3B.11B$60.2A2.9B$61.A3.7B$58.3A5.4B$58.A8.5B$70.2A$
70.A$71.3A$73.A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 19th, 2022, 8:49 am
by dvgrn
New F189 cross-posted from Discord, by ljkiernan1, iNoMed, and Goldtiger997:
Code: Select all
x = 44, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
25.2A$24.B2AB$25.2B$20.B3.2B$19.2AB.4B$19.2A8B$20.B.B2A6B2.2B2.2B$23.
2A15BD$23.17BDBD$19.21B3DB$19.23BD$18.2A21B$18.2A14B.3B$19.B.11B2.4B$
21.10B2.4B$22.14B$21.14B$22.13B6.2A$16.A5.13B2.2A2.A$7.A8.3A5.2B.4B3D
B2.A.A.A$7.3A9.A3.9BD2B5.A$10.A7.2A3.7B3D2B$9.2A3.B3.17B3.A$9.8B3.8B.
7B.A.A$11.16B2.8B.A$11.16B3.5B4.3A$10.19B.6B5.A$8.27B$6.31B3.B$6.2BC
29B.B2A$5.3BCBC4B.8BA15B2A$6.2B3C4B2.B.4BABA15B$5.5BC4B7.A2BA14B$4.
10B8.B2A14B$4.3B15.18B$2.4B14.2AB2.15B$2.2A15.A.AB2.14B$3.A15.A6.B.
11B2A$3A15.2A8.11BA.A$A28.8B4.A$30.6B5.2A$30.5B$30.6B$30.6B$28.7B$26.
2BA6B$26.BABA3B.B2A$26.A2BA4.BA.A$27.2A8.A$37.2A!
Repeat time is 318 ticks, due only to the SE-traveling glider that passes back through the entire circuit -- if that could be suppressed, repeat time would be a very reasonable 118 ticks. So the conduit doesn't quite fit the criteria for the H-to-H collection.
One of its unusual features is that it produces two extra output gliders that are not the first or second natural gliders of the input Herschel.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 25th, 2022, 1:28 pm
by dvgrn
Cross-posting a stable Lx134 based on simeks' recent 180-degree same-lane glider reflector. This has had periodic equivalents for a long time (e.g., in Hersrch's database) but I don't think I've seen a stable one before, or at least not one small and fast enough to fit in the official collection.
dvgrn wrote: July 25th, 2022, 1:26 pm
simeks wrote: July 25th, 2022, 7:35 am
A glider reflector in the truest sense...
This allows for the completion of the old incomplete Lx134, in a way that meets gmc_nxtman's criteria for Herschel conduits. Repeat time is 168+8N, depending on how far away the reflector needs to be moved to allow a following conduit to fit:
Code: Select all
x = 38, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory
17.2A$17.A2.2A$18.A.A$5.A11.2A2.A$5.3A8.B2.A.A$8.A7.B2A.A$7.2A6.2B.A$
2.2A3.4BA2B.BA.A12.2C$3.A5.BABA3B2A12.C2.C$3.A.AB.2BA2BA3B14.2C$4.2AB
.3B2A2B$6.9B$6.9B$6.9B11.7B$7.9B9.8B$7.10B8.8B$2.2A3.11B7.8B$2.A2.2A
12B6.B3D4B$3.AB2A13B5.2BD4B$.A.A.B3.5B3.4B4.2B3D2B$A.A2.4A3.4B2.4B3.
6B$A2.2A3.A5.2A3.4B.7B$.2A2.A8.A5.11B$4.2A9.3A3.9B$17.A3.9B$20.11B$
19.4B.7B$19.3B2.6B$17.2AB4.6B$16.A.AB4.2B2A3B$16.A6.3B2A3B$15.2A7.8B$
24.8B$21.AB.9B$20.A.A11B$20.2A.11B$24.11B$14.2A8.11B$15.A8.11B$15.A.A
B5.11B$16.2AB.3B.10B$18.17B$18.17B$19.16B$18.19B$16.21B$14.22B2A$14.
2BC17B.B2A$13.3BCBC4B.9B3.B$14.2B3C4B2.6B$13.5BC4B2.6B.2B$12.10B4.7B
2A$11.4B10.6B.B2A$11.3B12.6B.B$9.4B13.6B$9.2A15.5B$10.A15.4B$7.3A14.
5B$7.A16.2A$25.A$22.3A$22.A!
For example, an L112 can be attached with a repeat time of 168+8*3 = 192:
Code: Select all
x = 66, y = 65, rule = LifeHistory
17.2A2.A$17.A2.A.A18.A$18.A.A2.A15.3A$5.A11.2A2.A.A14.A$5.3A8.B2.A.A.
3A12.2A$8.A7.B2A.A5.A7.2B.3B3.7B.B$7.2A6.2B.A6.2A6.5B5.13B.B$2.2A3.4B
A2B.BA.A6.5B2.9BD21B$3.A5.BABA3B2A9.15BD21BD$3.A.AB.2BA2BA3B9.2A14B2D
18B3DB$4.2AB.3B2A2B11.2A13B2D2B2A15BDBD$6.9B12.B.12BD3B2A15BD$6.9B14.
23B3.2B2.2B$6.9B15.9B2.10B$7.9B15.8B3.6B$7.10B15.7B4.3B$2.2A3.11B11.
11B3.B$2.A2.2A12B9.12B2.2A$3.AB2A13B8.12B2.A$.A.A.B3.5B3.4B7.11B4.3A$
A.A2.4A3.4B2.4B6.B3D4B.4B4.A$A2.2A3.A5.2A3.3B6.2BD4B4.2A$.2A2.A8.A5.
2B6.2B3D2B4.A$4.2A9.3A3.B6.6B6.3A$17.A7.B.7B8.A$25.9B$25.8B$24.9B$23.
11B$22.4B.7B$22.3B2.6B$20.2AB4.6B$19.A.AB4.2B2D3B$19.A6.3B2D3B$18.2A
7.8B$27.8B$24.AB.9B$23.A.A11B$23.2A.11B$27.11B$17.2A8.11B$18.A8.11B$
18.A.AB5.11B$19.2AB.3B.10B$21.17B$21.17B$22.16B$21.19B$19.21B$17.22B
2A$17.2BC17B.B2A$16.3BCBC4B.9B3.B$17.2B3C4B2.6B$16.5BC4B2.6B.2B$15.
10B4.7B2A$14.4B10.6B.B2A$14.3B12.6B.B$12.4B13.6B$12.2A15.5B$13.A15.4B
$10.3A14.5B$10.A16.2A$28.A$25.3A$25.A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 25th, 2022, 5:16 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
dvgrn wrote: July 19th, 2022, 8:49 am
New F189 cross-posted from Discord, by ljkiernan1, iNoMed, and Goldtiger997:
Code: Select all
x = 44, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
25.2A$24.B2AB$25.2B$20.B3.2B$19.2AB.4B$19.2A8B$20.B.B2A6B2.2B2.2B$23.
2A15BD$23.17BDBD$19.21B3DB$19.23BD$18.2A21B$18.2A14B.3B$19.B.11B2.4B$
21.10B2.4B$22.14B$21.14B$22.13B6.2A$16.A5.13B2.2A2.A$7.A8.3A5.2B.4B3D
B2.A.A.A$7.3A9.A3.9BD2B5.A$10.A7.2A3.7B3D2B$9.2A3.B3.17B3.A$9.8B3.8B.
7B.A.A$11.16B2.8B.A$11.16B3.5B4.3A$10.19B.6B5.A$8.27B$6.31B3.B$6.2BC
29B.B2A$5.3BCBC4B.8BA15B2A$6.2B3C4B2.B.4BABA15B$5.5BC4B7.A2BA14B$4.
10B8.B2A14B$4.3B15.18B$2.4B14.2AB2.15B$2.2A15.A.AB2.14B$3.A15.A6.B.
11B2A$3A15.2A8.11BA.A$A28.8B4.A$30.6B5.2A$30.5B$30.6B$30.6B$28.7B$26.
2BA6B$26.BABA3B.B2A$26.A2BA4.BA.A$27.2A8.A$37.2A!
Repeat time is 318 ticks, due only to the SE-traveling glider that passes back through the entire circuit -- if that could be suppressed, repeat time would be a very reasonable 118 ticks. So the conduit doesn't quite fit the criteria for the H-to-H collection.
One of its unusual features is that it produces two extra output gliders that are not the first or second natural gliders of the input Herschel.
I did get a H-to-G0 using the new 180-degree reflector:
Code: Select all
x = 65, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
43b2o$42bo2bo$42bobo2b2o8bo$43bob2obo6b3o$41bobo10bo$41b2obob2o6b2o4b
2o$44bob2o12bo$44bo13bobo$43b2o13b2o2$55b2o$54bo2bo$54bobo$55bo$42b2o$
41bobo$41bo14b2o$40b2o14bo2bobob2o$57b3ob2obo$60bo$57b2obo$57bobo$18b
2o$18b2o$48bo$47bobo$12b2o34b2o$12b2o$16b2o30b2o$16b2o29bobo$48bo3$11b
2o$11b2o5$35b2o$9bo20b2o2bo2bo$o8b3o18bobo2b2o$3o9bo20b2o$3bo7b2o21bo$
2b2o27bo2bob2o$30bobobo2bo$31b2ob2o5$bo31b2o$bobo13bo15b2o$b3o12bobo$
3bo11bo2bo$16b2o2$13b2o$12bobo$12bo19b2o$11b2o19bobo$34bo$34b2o5$21bo$
20bobo5b2o$19bo2bo5bobo$20b2o8bo$30b2o!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 25th, 2022, 7:07 pm
by Jormungant
Well, that reflector is very small, one can make wierd things with it: (not a h-to-g0, but weird adjustable relay for 50% of gliders)
Code: Select all
x = 191, y = 105, rule = LifeHistory
152.4B$151.4B$150.4B$149.4B$148.4B$147.4B$146.4B$145.4B$144.4B$143.2A
2B$142.ABAB$141.3BA$140.4B$139.4B$138.4B$137.4B$136.4B50.B$135.4B50.
2B$134.4B50.3B$133.4B50.4B$132.4B50.4B$131.4B50.4B$130.4B50.4B$129.4B
50.4B$128.4B50.4B$127.4B50.2A2B$126.4B50.ABAB$125.4B50.3BA$124.2A2B
50.4B$123.ABAB50.4B$58.2A62.3BA50.4B$57.B2AB11.2A.A.2A42.4B50.4B$58.
3B4.A.2A.A2.A.2A2.A40.4B50.4B$57.B.B5.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A13.A24.4B50.4B$
57.5B8.B2.5A.A12.3A23.4B50.4B$57.6B6.2ABA4.A13.A25.4B50.4B$57.8B4.2A.
A.AB2.A12.2A23.4B50.4B$58.13B2.A.A2B.A9.4B22.4B50.4B$56.13B5.A2B.2A8.
3B23.4B50.4B$55.15B3.3B12.4B21.4B50.4B$55.15B3.2B12.5B20.4B50.4B$54.
17B.4B11.6B8.2A8.4B50.4B$54.29B2.8B7.B2A2B5.4B50.4B$53.9B2D2B2A10BAD
14B7.4B2.6B50.4B$52.9BDBD2B2A9B2DCA12B7.12B50.4B$51.2AB3.6BD10BABADAD
4B.7B7.12B50.4B$50.A2.A4.16BABAD15B5.13B49.4B$49.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B
4.15B47.4B$49.A7.6B14.17B3.9B2A4B46.4B$48.2A6.9B14.15B.11B2A4B45.4B$
55.4B4.2A15.22BD9B2A42.4B$54.4B5.A16.8B.13BDBD5B.A2BA2.2A36.4B$53.2A
2B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A9B3D4B2.ABAB3.A35.4B$52.ABAB10.A11.2A3.B5.2B2A11BD4B
3.A4B.A.2A31.4B$51.3BA24.A10.18B6.B2A.A.A31.4B$50.4B22.3A12.B.3B.ABA
5B9.BAB.A2.A29.2A2B$49.4B23.A19.B2A5B8.A4.A2.2A28.ABAB$48.4B43.3BA13.
5A32.3BA$47.4B43.4B50.4B$46.4B43.4B17.2A.A29.4B$45.4B43.4B18.A.2A28.
4B$44.4B.3B.B2.4B16.A.A12.8B46.4B$37.18B.4B15.A.2A11.4B50.4B$36.16B2A
5B2A14.A13.4B50.4B$36.16B2A5B2A10.A.2A.3A9.4B50.4B.3B.B2.4B$36.22B.B
11.2A.A.A2.A7.4B3.2A39.18B.4B$34.21B2AB17.3B2AB5.4B4.A39.16B2A5B2A$
33.13B2.7B2A20.4B4.5B.BA.A39.16B2A5B2A$33.10B6.8B22.11B.B2A40.22B.B$
34.7B7.7B23.2BA11B40.21B2AB$32.8B6.10B22.BABA10B39.13B2.7B2A$32.2A7B
2.3BA3B2A4B22.A2BA9B40.10B6.8B$31.B2A10B2AB2AB2A3B23.B2A10B41.7B7.7B$
29.B.12BA7BAB25.13B39.8B6.10B$28.2A5B2A7BA6B2A23.2A12B.2A37.2A7B2.3BA
3B2A4B$28.2A5B2A9B2A2B2AB22.A.A3B.8B.A37.B2A10B2AB2AB2A3B$29.4B.12B2A
2B2A23.A9B3.2A.A35.B.12BA7BAB$29.4B2.B.3B.4B29.2A3B.2A6.2ABA.2A31.2A
5B2A7BA6B2A$41.3B37.A7.B2.A.A31.2A5B2A9B2A2B2AB$39.4B35.3A6.A.2A.A34.
4B.12B2A2B2A$39.2A37.A8.2A2.A.A33.4B2.B.3B.4B$40.A49.A2.A45.3B$37.3A
51.2A44.4B$37.A99.2A$138.A$135.3A$135.A!
It can also make a conduit that fire a glider only if 2 input gliders are close enough (provided it with not at some illegal phase difference, causing some mayhem)
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 26th, 2022, 8:37 am
by dvgrn
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: July 25th, 2022, 5:16 pm
I did get a H-to-G0 using the new 180-degree reflector...
There's only one H-to-2G in the current collection that allows the same thing to be done somewhat more compactly -- but only somewhat, and the spacing between the gliders is unusably wide for a lot of purposes:
Code: Select all
x = 52, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
D3.D.5D9.D3.5D3.D3.5D2.3D$2D2.D.D12.2D5.D4.2D3.D5.D3.D$D.D.D.D13.D5.D
5.D3.D9.D$D2.2D.3D3.5D3.D5.D5.D4.3D4.2D$D3.D.D13.D5.D5.D7.D5.D$D3.D.D
13.D5.D5.D3.D3.D.D3.D$D3.D.5D8.3D4.D4.3D3.3D3.3D7$33.2A$34.A$33.A$33.
2A11.A$31.2A2.B8.3A$30.A2.2AB7.A$31.A.A.2B6.2A$30.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A$
23.2A9.2A3BABAB5.A$21.2B2AB9.3BA2BA2B.BA.A$21.4B12.2B2A3B.B2A$20.4B
13.9B$21.4B12.9B$21.5B11.9B$19.7B10.9B$9.2A7.8B9.10B$10.A7.9B7.11B3.
2A$10.A.AB3.12B4.12B2A2.A$11.2AB2.13B3.13B2ABA$13.22B3.5B3.B.A.A$13.
21B2.4B3.4A2.A.A$13.20B3.2A5.A3.2A2.A$14.18B5.A8.A2.2A$10.B.20B2.3A9.
2A$9.2AB.19B2.A$9.2A21B$10.B.20B$12.22B$12.22B$12.22B$12.22B$12.10B2.
11B$12.10B3.12B$11.10B5.6BA5B$11.10B5.5BABA3B$3.2A6.10B7.3B2A4B$4.A7.
9B8.B2.4B$4.A.AB4.9B.2B4.3B$5.2AB.14B2A3.B2AB$7.16B2A4.2A$7.14B.2B$8.
13B$7.14B.2B$5.18B2A$3.18B.B2A$3.2BC15B2.B$2.3BCBC4B.8B$3.2B3C4B2.7B$
2.5BC4B2.7B$.10B3.7B$15.7B$15.7B$15.6B$16.5B$14.6B$14.6B$14.4B$14.2B
2AB$16.2A!
The relative mod-8 spacing of the gliders is the same as in Entity Valkyrie's version.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 26th, 2022, 12:33 pm
by EvinZL
F149 based on calcyman and wwei's h to pi to unidentified and kazyan's unidentified to h
Code: Select all
x = 48, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
24b2o3b2o$24bo5bo$21b2obo5bob2o$20bobob2o3b2obobo$19bo6bobo6bo$19b7o3b
7o2$21b3o7b3o$20bo2bo3bo3bo2bo$14b2o4b2o4bobo4b2o$14b2o10bobo$27bo2$
45bo$45bo$2o32b2o9b3o$bo32b2o11bo$bobo$2b2o4$32b2o$32bobo$34bo$2bo23b
2o6b2o$2bobo21b2o$2b3o$4bo2$14b2o$14b2o2b2o$18bobo$20bo$20b2o!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 26th, 2022, 5:21 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
An Lx129 (HL75P, P?12unidentifed, unidentifed?42H)
Code: Select all
x = 35, y = 51, rule = LifeHistory
18.3D$19.D$19.3D10$9.A8.2A9.2A$9.3A6.2A5.2A2.A.A$12.A12.A.A.A2.A$11.
2A14.A.A.2A$26.2A.A$29.A.4A$16.3D10.A.A2.A$17.D.D4.2A4.A$8.2A3.3D3.D
3.A2.A$8.2A3.D.2D.2D4.2A4.A$13.D.3D11.A.A2.A$29.A.4A$26.2A.A$27.A.A.
2A$25.A.A.A2.A$25.2A2.A.A$2A27.2A$.A$.A.A$2.2A17.2A.2A$21.2A.A.A$26.A
$26.2A4$2.C$2.C.C18.2A$2.3C18.2A$4.C6$16.2A$16.A$17.3A$19.A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: October 25th, 2022, 7:19 am
by Gustone
Known? (I have no idea what its notation is)
Code: Select all
x = 44, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
29.C$27.3C$26.C$26.2C$22.6B$21.5B$18.10B$17.13B$16.15B$16.14B$11.4B.
12B9.C$11.20B4.3C$10.6B.15B2.C$10.23B.2C4.2C$10.26B4.C$7.B2.24B3.BC.C
$5.31B.B2C$2EB2.33B$3EB2E2B2C28B$.2EB3EB2C28B$3EB2E31B$B2E32B$3.26B.
5B$3.4B2.7B.20B$9.6B2.21B2.2C.C$11.3B3.23BC.2C$12.B4.9B2.11B$18.8B2.
5B2C4B$18.8B2.5B2C3B$18.6B4.10B$19.5B4.9B$20.3B5.9B$23.C5.8B$23.3C2.
8B$26.C2.6B$25.C3.6B$25.2C2.6B$29.7B$30.6B$29.6B$30.5B$30.6B$30.6B$
30.5B$30.2B3D$31.BDB$31.3D$32.B!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: October 25th, 2022, 7:32 am
by Sokwe
Gustone wrote: October 25th, 2022, 7:19 am
Known? (I have no idea what its notation is)
Code: Select all
x = 44, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
29.C$27.3C$26.C$26.2C$22.6B$21.5B$18.10B$17.13B$16.15B$16.14B$11.4B.
12B9.C$11.20B4.3C$10.6B.15B2.C$10.23B.2C4.2C$10.26B4.C$7.B2.24B3.BC.C
$5.31B.B2C$2EB2.33B$3EB2E2B2C28B$.2EB3EB2C28B$3EB2E31B$B2E32B$3.26B.
5B$3.4B2.7B.20B$9.6B2.21B2.2C.C$11.3B3.23BC.2C$12.B4.9B2.11B$18.8B2.
5B2C4B$18.8B2.5B2C3B$18.6B4.10B$19.5B4.9B$20.3B5.9B$23.C5.8B$23.3C2.
8B$26.C2.6B$25.C3.6B$25.2C2.6B$29.7B$30.6B$29.6B$30.5B$30.6B$30.6B$
30.5B$30.2B3D$31.BDB$31.3D$32.B!
Yes, it's known. Your Herschel conduit is composed of two elementary conduits, an H-to-B (green) and a B-to-H (white):
Code: Select all
x = 44, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
32.B$31.3D$31.BDB$30.2B3D$30.5B$30.6B$30.6B$30.5B$29.6B$30.6B$29.7B$
25.2A2.6B$25.A3.6B$26.A2.6B$23.3A2.8B$23.A5.8B$20.3B5.9B$19.5B4.9B$
18.6B4.10B$18.8B2.5B2C3B$18.8B2.5B2C4B$12.B4.9B2.11B$11.3B3.15BD7BC.
2C$9.6B2.14B3D4B2.2C.C$3.4B2.7B.14BDB2D2B$3.26B.5B$B2E32B$3EB2E31B$.
2EB3EB2A28B$3EB2E2B2A28B$2EB2.33B$5.31B.B2A$7.B2.24B3.BA.A$10.26B4.A$
10.23B.2A4.2A$10.6B.15B2.A$11.20B4.3A$11.4B.12B9.A$16.14B$16.15B$17.
13B$18.10B$21.5B$22.6B$26.2A$26.A$27.3A$29.A!
Here I flipped the conduit to put the input Herschel in the standard orientation.
If you get the latest version of the elementary conduits collection (linked from
this post), you should be able to find both of these conduits (HL153B and BFx59H
Edit: as Dave noted below, the first conduit should have been labeled HL136B rather than HL153B. It is mislabeled in the conduit collection.).
Alternatively, notice that the full Herschel conduit takes 195 generations to turn the Herschel left and flip it, so the name for this Herschel conduit is Lx195. There is a Herschel conduit collection that comes with Golly (Patterns/Life/Signal-Circuitry/h-to-h-collection-26Aug2017.zip) where you can find this conduit
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: October 25th, 2022, 7:35 am
by dvgrn
Gustone wrote: October 25th, 2022, 7:19 am
Known? (I have no idea what its notation is)...
Yup, Lx195. It's also in the h-to-h ZIP file in Golly's Patterns/Life/Signal-Circuitry folder.
The notation is not really hard to figure out. The circuit takes 198 ticks to get from a 3-tick Herschel ancestor to the output Herschel, so 198-3 = 195. It's an Lx conduit because with the Herschel in its standard orientation, the conduit turns the Herschel left (L) and mirror-reverses it (x).
Code: Select all
x = 44, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
32.B$31.3D$25.2A4.BDB$24.B2AB2.2B3D$25.2B3.5B$24.2B3.7B$23.BA2B.8B$
23.A.A9B$24.A.9B$21.3A4.B.6B$21.A7.7B$25.2A2.6B$25.A3.6B$26.A2.6B$23.
3A2.8B$23.A5.8B$20.3B5.9B$19.5B4.9B$18.6B4.10B$18.8B2.5B2A3B$18.8B2.
5B2A4B3.2A$12.B4.9B2.11B3.A$11.3B3.15BD7BA.A$9.6B2.14B3D4B2.2A$3.4B2.
7B.13BD2B2D2B$.28B.5B$.3BD30B$4BDBD30B$.3B3DB2A28B$6BDB2A28B$38B$5.
31B.B2A$7.B2.24B3.BA.A$9.27B4.A$8.25B.2A4.2A$7.9B.15B2.A$6.4B.20B4.3A
$5.4B2.4B.12B9.A$4.4B8.14B$3.4B9.15B$2.4B11.13B$.4B13.10B$4B17.5B$3B
19.6B$2B24.2A$B25.A$27.3A$29.A!
Sokwe wrote: October 25th, 2022, 7:32 amIf you get the latest version of the elementary conduits collection (linked from
this post), you should be able to find both of these conduits (HL153B and BFx59H).
EDIT: Hey, how in the name of von Neumann's tungsten teeth did that elementary conduit get labeled "HL153B"? It should clearly be "HL136B", because 136+59 = 195.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: November 2nd, 2022, 3:39 pm
by squareroot12621
Extrementhusiast wrote: February 4th, 2015, 10:50 pm
Found a periodic Herschel conduit, Fx117p4/5/6/7/8/others:
Code: Select all
x = 197, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
11b2o41b2o41b2o41b2o41b2o$11bo42bo42bo42bo42bo$9b3o40b3o40b3o40b3o40b
3o9$152bo2bo2bo$149bo2b7o$149b3o$153b2obo$151b3obobo$150bo3bo2bo$64b2o
83bob2ob2ob2o$9b2o41b2o10bobo28b2o41b2o9bobo3bobo23b2o$9b2o41b2o12bo
28b2o41b2o8b2o2b4obo23b2o9b2o$62b4ob2o2b2o35bo2bo38bobobo2b2o33b2o$2ob
o39b2obo15bo2bobobo2bo13b2obo18bo20b2obo17bobo3bo15b2obo$ob2o24b2o13bo
b2o20bobobo14bob2o17bo4bo16bob2o16b2obo3bo15bob2o17bo$27bobo32bo4bo2bo
35bobo2b2o38bob2obob2o32bobo$25b3o34bob2o5b3o2b2o26b2obo43bo2b3o2bo31b
o2bo$2b2o20bo3bo16b2o16bo4b2ob2obo2bo10b2o41b2o17b2obo3bo16b2o14bo2bo$
3bo16bo3b5o17bo16b2o6bob4o12bo42bo17bo2b4o18bo$3bobo12b3o3b2o20bobo14b
2o6bo17bobo12bo2bo24bobo17bo22bobo12bo2bo$4b2o14bo3b5o18b2o14b2o7b3o
15b2o14b2o25b2o15bo2b4o19b2o14b2o$24bo3bo45bo75b2obo2bo$25b3o123bobo$
27bobo121bob2o$28b2o122bo$18b2obo39b2obo39b2obo39b2obobo37b2obo$18b2ob
3o37b2ob3o37b2ob3o37b2ob2o38b2ob3o$24bo42bo42bo85bo$18b2ob3o37b2ob3o
37b2ob3o37b2ob2o38b2ob3o$19bobo40bobo40bobo40bobo40bobo$19bobo40bobo
40bobo40bobo40bobo$20bo42bo42bo42bo42bo$5b3o7b2o31b3o7b2o31b3o7b2o31b
3o7b2o31b3o7b2o$6bo8bobo31bo8bobo31bo8bobo31bo8bobo31bo8bobo$6b3o8bo
31b3o8bo31b3o8bo31b3o8bo31b3o8bo$17b2o41b2o41b2o41b2o41b2o!
These eaters might come in handy.
Code: Select all
x = 213, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
F42.F42.F42.F42.F3$27.2A41.2A41.2A41.2A41.2A$27.A42.A42.A42.A42.A$25.
3A40.3A40.3A40.3A6.2C32.3A$163.2C3$165.C$164.C.C$165.C$166.3C$35.2C41.
2C41.2C46.C$35.C.C40.C.C40.C.C44.A2.A2.A$37.C42.C42.C41.A2.7A$37.2C41.
2C41.2C40.3A$169.2A.A$167.3A.A.A$166.A3.A2.A$80.2A83.A.2A.2A.2A$25.2A
41.2A10.A.A28.2A41.2A9.A.A3.A.A23.2A$25.2A41.2A12.A28.2A41.2A8.2A2.4A
.A23.2A9.2A$78.4A.2A2.2A35.A2.A38.A.A.A2.2A33.2A$16.2A.A39.2A.A15.A2.
A.A.A2.A13.2A.A18.A20.2A.A17.A.A3.A15.2A.A$16.A.2A24.2A13.A.2A20.A.A.
A14.A.2A17.A4.A16.A.2A16.2A.A3.A15.A.2A17.A$43.A.A32.A4.A2.A35.A.A2.2A
38.A.2A.A.2A32.A.A$41.3A34.A.2A5.3A2.2A26.2A.A43.A2.3A2.A31.A2.A$18.2A
20.A3.A16.2A16.A4.2A.2A.A2.A10.2A41.2A17.2A.A3.A16.2A14.A2.A$19.A16.A
3.5A17.A16.2A6.A.4A12.A42.A17.A2.4A18.A$19.A.A12.3A3.2A20.A.A14.2A6.A
17.A.A12.A2.A24.A.A17.A22.A.A12.A2.A$20.2A14.A3.5A18.2A14.2A7.3A15.2A
14.2A25.2A15.A2.4A19.2A14.2A$40.A3.A45.A75.2A.A2.A$41.3A123.A.A$43.A.
A121.A.2A$44.2A122.A$34.2A.A39.2A.A39.2A.A39.2A.A.A37.2A.A$34.2A.3A37.
2A.3A37.2A.3A37.2A.2A38.2A.3A$40.A42.A42.A85.A$34.2A.3A37.2A.3A37.2A.
3A37.2A.2A38.2A.3A$35.A.A40.A.A40.A.A40.A.A40.A.A$35.A.A40.A.A40.A.A40.
A.A40.A.A$36.A42.A42.A42.A42.A$21.3A7.2A31.3A7.2A31.3A7.2A31.3A7.2A31.
3A7.2A$22.A8.A.A31.A8.A.A31.A8.A.A31.A8.A.A31.A8.A.A$22.3A8.A31.3A8.A
31.3A8.A31.3A8.A31.3A8.A$33.2A41.2A41.2A41.2A41.2A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: June 13th, 2023, 6:14 pm
by Anivec
New H-to-H by Mvr:
Code: Select all
x = 49, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
39.A$38.A.A$38.A.A$37.2A.3A$38.B4.A$36.B2AB3A$32.3B.B2A.A$31.6B$30.6B
$31.7B6.A$30.8B5.A.A$24.15B4.A.A$23.17B2.2A.3A$23.17B3.B4.A$24.16B.B
2AB3A$23.16B2.B2A.A$19.B.21B$13.B.27B$8.13BC19B$6.D14BCBC19B$5.B3D12B
3C20B$6.DBD14BC20B$8.D35B$10.2B2.28B.B2A$15.26B2.BA.A$14.4B2.10B.9B6.
A$13.4B7.6B.9B6.2A$12.4B8.5B.11B$11.4B9.4B3.7B.B2A$10.4B11.2B6.4B2.BA
.A$9.4B12.3B4.B2A2B5.A$8.4B13.B2AB4.2A7.2A$7.4B15.2A$6.4B$5.4B$4.4B$
3.4B$2.4B$.4B$4B!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 5th, 2023, 4:22 pm
by Anivec
HF114H:
Code: Select all
x = 50, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
5$26.2A.2A$27.A.A$22.2A.A5.A.2A$21.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$20.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.
A$20.7AB.B7A$24.3B.B.3B$22.3AB.3B.B3A$21.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$21.2A3.BABAB3.
2A$26.BABAB$14.A11.2BA2B.B$14.3A10.B.B.5B3.2B2.2B$17.A6.22BD$10.A5.2A
5.23BDBD$9.A.A4.4B3.12B2A9B3DB$9.A.A6.2B3.12B2A11BD$7.3A.2A4.4B3.23B$
6.A4.B5.4B3.11B2.3B.B$7.3AB2AB2.6B.10B$9.A.2AB.18B$13.20B6.2A$13.18B.
B2A5.A$15.16B.BA.A.3A$16.14B5.A.A$14.16B5.2A$12.18B$12.2BC15B2.2A$11.
3BCBC4B.10BA.A$12.2B3C4B2.4B2A2B3.A$11.5BC4B2.3BA2BAB3.2A$10.10B3.4B2A
B$9.4B12.2B.B$8.4B12.3B$8.3B13.B2AB$8.2B15.2A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 15th, 2023, 2:23 am
by Haycat2009
AlbertArmStain wrote: June 13th, 2023, 6:14 pm
New H-to-H by Mvr:
Code: Select all
x = 49, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
39.A$38.A.A$38.A.A$37.2A.3A$38.B4.A$36.B2AB3A$32.3B.B2A.A$31.6B$30.6B
$31.7B6.A$30.8B5.A.A$24.15B4.A.A$23.17B2.2A.3A$23.17B3.B4.A$24.16B.B
2AB3A$23.16B2.B2A.A$19.B.21B$13.B.27B$8.13BC19B$6.D14BCBC19B$5.B3D12B
3C20B$6.DBD14BC20B$8.D35B$10.2B2.28B.B2A$15.26B2.BA.A$14.4B2.10B.9B6.
A$13.4B7.6B.9B6.2A$12.4B8.5B.11B$11.4B9.4B3.7B.B2A$10.4B11.2B6.4B2.BA
.A$9.4B12.3B4.B2A2B5.A$8.4B13.B2AB4.2A7.2A$7.4B15.2A$6.4B$5.4B$4.4B$
3.4B$2.4B$.4B$4B!
Its technically a Bx170, but nice find! Its Spartan and interestingly, it sends the hershel directly backwards.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 15th, 2023, 2:40 am
by confocaloid
Haycat2009 wrote: July 15th, 2023, 2:23 am
AlbertArmStain wrote: June 13th, 2023, 6:14 pm
New H-to-H by Mvr:
Code: Select all
x = 49, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
39.A$38.A.A$38.A.A$37.2A.3A$38.B4.A$36.B2AB3A$32.3B.B2A.A$31.6B$30.6B
$31.7B6.A$30.8B5.A.A$24.15B4.A.A$23.17B2.2A.3A$23.17B3.B4.A$24.16B.B
2AB3A$23.16B2.B2A.A$19.B.21B$13.B.27B$8.13BC19B$6.D14BCBC19B$5.B3D12B
3C20B$6.DBD14BC20B$8.D35B$10.2B2.28B.B2A$15.26B2.BA.A$14.4B2.10B.9B6.
A$13.4B7.6B.9B6.2A$12.4B8.5B.11B$11.4B9.4B3.7B.B2A$10.4B11.2B6.4B2.BA
.A$9.4B12.3B4.B2A2B5.A$8.4B13.B2AB4.2A7.2A$7.4B15.2A$6.4B$5.4B$4.4B$
3.4B$2.4B$.4B$4B!
Its technically a Bx170, but nice find! Its Spartan and interestingly, it sends the hershel directly backwards.
A p340 gun was posted with two copies of this conduit:
C28 wrote: June 13th, 2023, 6:20 pm
p340
Code: Select all
x = 68, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
58bo$57bobo$57bobo$56b2ob3o$62bo$56b2ob3o$56b2obo2$21b2o$5b2o7b2o5b2o
40bo$6bo7b2o46bobo$6bobo53bobo$7b2o52b2ob3o$67bo$b2o58b2ob3o$2bo58b2o
bo$2bobo17b3o$3b2o7b2o7bo3bo$12b2o7bo3bo14bo$21bo3bo14bobo$22b3o4b2o9b
3o$19bo9b2o11bo$18b3o$17b5o41b2o$16b2o3b2o40bobo$3bob2o12b3o43bo$b3ob
2o8bo2b3o44b2o$o17b2o$b3ob2o8b2o42b2o$3bobo53bobo$3bobo46b2o7bo$4bo40b
2o5b2o7b2o$45b2o2$8bob2o$6b3ob2o$5bo$6b3ob2o$8bobo$8bobo$9bo!
I think it's actually B170 (without "x"). A "Bx..." conduit would flip the Herschel (an example is
Bx125).
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 16th, 2023, 2:05 am
by Haycat2009
confocaloid wrote: July 15th, 2023, 2:40 am
Haycat2009 wrote: July 15th, 2023, 2:23 am
AlbertArmStain wrote: June 13th, 2023, 6:14 pm
New H-to-H by Mvr:
Code: Select all
x = 49, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
39.A$38.A.A$38.A.A$37.2A.3A$38.B4.A$36.B2AB3A$32.3B.B2A.A$31.6B$30.6B
$31.7B6.A$30.8B5.A.A$24.15B4.A.A$23.17B2.2A.3A$23.17B3.B4.A$24.16B.B
2AB3A$23.16B2.B2A.A$19.B.21B$13.B.27B$8.13BC19B$6.D14BCBC19B$5.B3D12B
3C20B$6.DBD14BC20B$8.D35B$10.2B2.28B.B2A$15.26B2.BA.A$14.4B2.10B.9B6.
A$13.4B7.6B.9B6.2A$12.4B8.5B.11B$11.4B9.4B3.7B.B2A$10.4B11.2B6.4B2.BA
.A$9.4B12.3B4.B2A2B5.A$8.4B13.B2AB4.2A7.2A$7.4B15.2A$6.4B$5.4B$4.4B$
3.4B$2.4B$.4B$4B!
Its technically a Bx170, but nice find! Its Spartan and interestingly, it sends the hershel directly backwards.
A p340 gun was posted with two copies of this conduit:
C28 wrote: June 13th, 2023, 6:20 pm
p340
Code: Select all
x = 68, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
58bo$57bobo$57bobo$56b2ob3o$62bo$56b2ob3o$56b2obo2$21b2o$5b2o7b2o5b2o
40bo$6bo7b2o46bobo$6bobo53bobo$7b2o52b2ob3o$67bo$b2o58b2ob3o$2bo58b2o
bo$2bobo17b3o$3b2o7b2o7bo3bo$12b2o7bo3bo14bo$21bo3bo14bobo$22b3o4b2o9b
3o$19bo9b2o11bo$18b3o$17b5o41b2o$16b2o3b2o40bobo$3bob2o12b3o43bo$b3ob
2o8bo2b3o44b2o$o17b2o$b3ob2o8b2o42b2o$3bobo53bobo$3bobo46b2o7bo$4bo40b
2o5b2o7b2o$45b2o2$8bob2o$6b3ob2o$5bo$6b3ob2o$8bobo$8bobo$9bo!
I think it's actually B170 (without "x"). A "Bx..." conduit would flip the Herschel (an example is
Bx125).
What, what is considered flipping? (Honestly I have no clue on what is considered flipping, up-down or left-right?)