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Okay. For pronouns, I propose <lit-> for first person, <so-> for second person, <hai-> for third person animate (he/she/etc), and <zen-> for third person inanimate (it/etc). These take the usual case/number endings. As usual, these aren't final. Also, I propose <ngwe-> for "food".

fluffykitty wrote: November 18th, 2020, 6:34 am Okay. For pronouns, I propose <lit-> for first person, <so-> for second person, <hai-> for third person animate (he/she/etc), and <zen-> for third person inanimate (it/etc). These take the usual case/number endings. As usual, these aren't final. Also, I propose <ngwe-> for "food".

I think we should have a separate plural suffix for persons. Or should we have entirely different plural persons?

We would do that. Any proposals?

fluffykitty wrote: November 18th, 2020, 3:14 pm We would do that. Any proposals?

Which one? Also, I made the language part on my user page: https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Hunting%27s_language

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 18th, 2020, 3:17 pm Which one?

There's no single plural suffix, since that's included in the case markers, so separate plural pronouns. Also, if we don't do that, third person plural with both animates and inanimates uses <hai->.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 18th, 2020, 3:17 pm Also, I made the language part on my user page: https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Hunting%27s_language

That's not a user page. You should move it to your userspace.

fluffykitty wrote: November 18th, 2020, 3:27 pm

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 18th, 2020, 3:17 pm Also, I made the language part on my user page: https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Hunting%27s_language

That's not a user page. You should move it to your userspace.

What do you mean exactly? https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/User:Schiaparelliorbust

The page could not be moved, for the following reasons:

The title is the same; cannot move a page over itself.
A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.

https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/User:Sc ... s_language is usable. Also, we still need verb affixes and auxiliaries before we can start making sentences.

fluffykitty wrote: November 18th, 2020, 4:08 pm https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/User:Sc ... s_language is usable. Also, we still need verb affixes and auxiliaries before we can start making sentences.

Ok then infinitive is -(m)ay. M is there if and only if it ends with a vowel. I think I did it: https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Schiapa ... s_language

You need to select the User namespace. Also, infinitives are great and all, but we still need the finite forms.

fluffykitty wrote: November 18th, 2020, 4:23 pm You need to select the User namespace.

How do I do that?

fluffykitty wrote: November 18th, 2020, 4:23 pm Also, infinitives are great and all, but we still need the finite forms.

Ok then simple present will be -han + person suffix. I don't think present continuous should use an auxiliary verb. What do you think?

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 18th, 2020, 4:43 pm How do I do that?

There's a dropdown on the "Move page" page.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 18th, 2020, 4:43 pm Ok then simple present will be -han + person suffix. I don't think present continuous should use an auxiliary verb. What do you think?

Okay. How about we make the person suffixes be the pronoun stems without the initial consonant? A primitive present continuous might be a good idea. How do you think we should do passive stuff?

fluffykitty wrote: November 18th, 2020, 5:09 pm There's a dropdown on the "Move page" page.

The page doesn't work now. It returns me to the main page.

fluffykitty wrote: November 18th, 2020, 5:09 pm Okay. How about we make the person suffixes be the pronoun stems without the initial consonant? A primitive present continuous might be a good idea. How do you think we should do passive stuff?

I think that maybe we can change the vowels in the pronoun stems to make suffixes. For passive, there should be a suffix like verb + suffix.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 18th, 2020, 5:30 pm The page doesn't work now. It returns me to the main page.

Try the "More" dropdown near the edit button->"Move"

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 18th, 2020, 5:30 pm I think that maybe we can change the vowels in the pronoun stems to make suffixes. For passive, there should be a suffix like verb + suffix.

Okay. Any suggestions?

fluffykitty wrote: November 18th, 2020, 5:36 pm Try the "More" dropdown near the edit button->"Move"

I think Ian07 already did it.

fluffykitty wrote: November 18th, 2020, 5:36 pm Okay. Any suggestions?

lit->let
so->so
hai->hei
zen->zein

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 18th, 2020, 5:50 pm I think Ian07 already did it.

That works.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 18th, 2020, 5:50 pm lit->let
so->so
hai->hei
zen->zein

Okay. What should the tense endings be?

Minor, this is not Hunting's Language - this is a collabrative project.

Hunting wrote: November 19th, 2020, 12:00 am Minor, this is not Hunting's Language - this is a collabrative project.

Then what should I call it? Also, please state your opinions, I will put them in my user page.

You should make endings and words.

fluffykitty wrote: November 19th, 2020, 5:43 am You should make endings and words.

Here are some:
table - kara
chair - taj
water - pu
to drink - tzegay
bed - germ
Can you make some too? Also, can we choose our number base?

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 19th, 2020, 6:07 am table - kara
chair - taj
water - pu
to drink - tzegay
bed - germ
Can you make some too? Also, can we choose our number base?

Huntingum mal gyaken <r> pau <g>. Shya akes gelak denayral.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 19th, 2020, 6:07 am

fluffykitty wrote: November 19th, 2020, 5:43 am You should make endings and words.

Can you make some too? Also, can we choose our number base?

One thing that we should do is not have one-to-one translations between (all of) our words and English words. For example, we could have <kxuzp> "door/window" and <kets> "water (nonpotable)". For base, I've heard good things about base six.

fluffykitty wrote: November 19th, 2020, 6:43 am One thing that we should do is not have one-to-one translations between (all of) our words and English words. For example, we could have <kxuzp> "door/window" and <kets> "water (nonpotable)". For base, I've heard good things about base six.

Ok, that certainly makes sense. It makes it more realistic. Though I really do think that door and window should be separate words. They are very different things, the only thing they have in common really is the ability to open and close.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 19th, 2020, 6:51 am Ok, that certainly makes sense. It makes it more realistic. Though I really do think that door and window should be separate words. They are very different things, the only thing they have in common really is the ability to open and close.

Similarities:

• Can be opened and closed
• Air and people can pass through if open
• Often lockable

fluffykitty wrote: November 19th, 2020, 7:04 am Similarities:

• Can be opened and closed
• Air and people can pass through if open
• Often lockable

You can say that for many other things.
Clouds and fog:
[*]Both are made of tiny water droplets.
[*]Both can obscure your view.
[*]Both are colorless.
Languages oftentimes have two or more words describing very similar things like "lose" and "misplace" in English.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 19th, 2020, 7:16 am You can say that for many other things
Clouds and fog:
[*]Both are made of tiny water droplets.
[*]Both can obscure your view.
[*]Both are colorless

That's true. Maybe we should use the same word for "cloud" and "fog".

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 19th, 2020, 7:16 am Languages oftentimes have two or more words describing very similar things like "lose" and "misplace" in English.

Distinctions like that aren't always made. For example, French "savoir" and "connaître" are both (usually) translated as "to know".

fluffykitty wrote: November 19th, 2020, 7:31 am

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 19th, 2020, 7:16 am You can say that for many other things
Clouds and fog:
[*]Both are made of tiny water droplets.
[*]Both can obscure your view.
[*]Both are colorless

That's true. Maybe we should use the same word for "cloud" and "fog".

I don't think that's necessarily a good idea.

fluffykitty wrote: November 19th, 2020, 7:31 am

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 19th, 2020, 7:16 am Languages oftentimes have two or more words describing very similar things like "lose" and "misplace" in English.

Distinctions like that aren't always made. For example, French "savoir" and "connaître" are both (usually) translated as "to know".

Turkish also makes that distinction "bilmek" - "savoir" and "tanımak" - "connaître". Different languages make different distinctions.