"daisy chain" is an expression that means attaching copies of a thing by their ends, front of one to back of another.MDA wrote: August 6th, 2026, 3:49 amThe wiki has precisely zero matches for the word “daisy”, let alone “daisy chain”
No, it would just be a fuse.So, by your definition, any similarly-reacting pattern would be classified as a climber, not a crawler? Please clarify.
Well, for some of the patterns you posted, the gliders aren't only shifted; they're rotated and face a different direction, or the offset for each glider isn't the same. As Gustone said, you can't chain them together without adding extra supporting objects, so it doesn't count as a crawler. If you found a way to make them chainable, then it'd be a crawler, but it isn't one just yet.
I6_I6 wrote: August 6th, 2026, 4:05 amWell, for some of the patterns you posted, the gliders aren't only shifted; they're rotated and face a different direction, or the offset for each glider isn't the same. As Gustone said, you can't chain them together without adding extra supporting objects, so it doesn't count as a crawler. If you found a way to make them chainable, then it'd be a crawler, but it isn't one just yet.
Now I understand. Why does the wiki mention nothing about this?Gustone wrote: August 6th, 2026, 3:57 am"daisy chain" is an expression that means attaching copies of a thing by their ends, front of one to back of another.MDA wrote: August 6th, 2026, 3:49 amThe wiki has precisely zero matches for the word “daisy”, let alone “daisy chain”No, it would just be a fuse.So, by your definition, any similarly-reacting pattern would be classified as a climber, not a crawler? Please clarify.
The wiki says that in the reaction, both groups of objects need to be "moved". This means that they reappear exactly as they were but in a different location.
Here, the group of block and two gliders would need to reappear exactly as it was before the reaction.It consists of two groups of objects:
- The B-heptaplet
- The block and two gliders
which react between themselves to produce
- Another B-heptaplet
- Another block and two other gliders,
shifted back to some degree.
I think what Gustone is trying to say is that the output of the climber reaction alone can't support the same reaction, i.e. one copy of the reaction can't be immediately followed by a second copy of the same reaction. But if that was the case, then none of these would qualify as crawlers either (even though spaceships have been built for all three of these):MDA wrote: August 6th, 2026, 3:49 amThe wiki has precisely zero matches for the word “daisy”, let alone “daisy chain”. So I’ll just assume you mean that since there are gliders in the crawler, you can’t just extend the crawler by placing the gliders with the same relative shift to the B-heptaplet. Correct me if I’m wrong.
So, by your definition, any similarly-reacting pattern would be classified as a climber, not a crawler? Please clarify. Note that the wiki page on the subject states that
In any case though, it would be better for you to use preexisting terminology or, if no such terminology exists, explain what you mean before using new or unofficially documented Life-related terms. (excluding your post, “daisy chain” only has 5 matches on the forums, and none on the wiki, as previously mentioned.)Muzik wrote: A crawler or climber is a reaction […].
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x = 181, y = 163, rule = B3/S23
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Which ones? I don't recognize any of these.Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: August 8th, 2026, 12:55 am *snip*
spaceships have been built for all three of these
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Top crawler: Solifuge ((12,4)c/62)NNlk05 wrote: August 8th, 2026, 2:20 amWhich ones? I don't recognize any of these.Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: August 8th, 2026, 12:55 am *snip*
spaceships have been built for all three of these
*snip*
Yes, those aren't crawlers. Their paired versions are.Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: August 8th, 2026, 12:55 amif that was the case, then none of these would qualify as crawlers either (even though spaceships have been built for all three of these)