The Catagolue object pages of those two ships are here and here.
No it is not me. And FYI you shouldn't request personal information about other people, unless they choose to provide that information themselves.
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x = 0, y = 0, rule = B35/S23
36b2o$35bo2bo$35bo2bo46b2o$36b2o47bobo$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b
2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b
2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b
2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b
2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b
2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b
2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$36b2o48b2o$86b2o$36b2o$37bo$34bo49b2o$34b2o
48b2o2$34b2o$2b3ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obobo17b3ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2o5b2o$ob3ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o18b3ob2ob2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob2ob2obobo3bobo$o84b2o3b2o$o!
Bump. Can someone please answer this question?Haycat2009 wrote: October 11th, 2023, 7:51 pm Recently I saw a 5316M in Grounded Life, what is it?
Also can you provide me a list of the longest-lived diehards and methetsulae?
It is impossible to answer your question in reasonable time. What did the object look like?Haycat2009 wrote: October 25th, 2023, 9:51 pmBump. Can someone please answer this question?Haycat2009 wrote: October 11th, 2023, 7:51 pm Recently I saw a 5316M in Grounded Life, what is it?
Also can you provide me a list of the longest-lived diehards and methetsulae?
I found it on Nathaniel’s Online CA search (Not apgsearch!) and it mentioned one with 5200-5300 lifespan.LaundryPizza03 wrote: October 25th, 2023, 9:52 pmIt is impossible to answer your question in reasonable time. What did the object look like?Haycat2009 wrote: October 25th, 2023, 9:51 pmBump. Can someone please answer this question?Haycat2009 wrote: October 11th, 2023, 7:51 pm Recently I saw a 5316M in Grounded Life, what is it?
Also can you provide me a list of the longest-lived diehards and methetsulae?
I've never heard of it and can't find anything about it.Haycat2009 wrote: October 25th, 2023, 9:55 pmI found it on Nathaniel’s Online CA search (Not apgsearch!) and it mentioned one with 5200-5300 lifespan.LaundryPizza03 wrote: October 25th, 2023, 9:52 pmIt is impossible to answer your question in reasonable time. What did the object look like?
There was a soup listed as having a lifespan of 5250 on the old soup search site, clicking the 'RLE' link for it leads to nowhere but the URL itself has the soup's RLE embedded in it. Sadly, on running the soup it just produces a puffer and a p4 oscillator which I assume must have confused the census program?Haycat2009 wrote: October 11th, 2023, 7:51 pm Recently I saw a 5316M in Grounded Life, what is it?
Also can you provide me a list of the longest-lived diehards and methetsulae?
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x = 20, y = 20, rule = B35/S23
2bo2bo2b2o4bo2b2o$3bo3bo2b2o3bo3bo$3bobo5bobobo$o2b3ob3obo3b2o$bo2bo2b
2o2b3o$5bo$3b4obo2b3o4bo$b2o2b2o5b2o2b2obo$3o4bob4o2bo$o4bo2bob2obob2o
bo$8b2ob2o3bob2o$5b4o3bo$3o3bo4bo2b6o$2bo3bob2o2b2o2b3o$4ob2o2b2obo3b
4o$2b2o3bobo5bo2b2o$bo3bobo6bo2bobo$10b2obobo2b2o$4bo2b5o6b2o$b3ob3obo
8bo!
With a moderately weird setup LLSSS can search for ships that are shared* between the two rules. With further weirdness it can search for arbitrary width ships. When such a search terminates with no results it shows, barring bugs, that there are no (finite) ships at all. This was easily and quickly the case for c/2, c/3, 2c/4, and 2c/5.Haycat2009 wrote: September 4th, 2023, 11:48 pm Are there any spaceships that work in both B35/S23 and B3/S23?
With the weaker defination (Something like the golden head), how do we search for those?amling wrote: November 19th, 2023, 11:34 pmWith a moderately weird setup LLSSS can search for ships that are shared* between the two rules. With further weirdness it can search for arbitrary width ships. When such a search terminates with no results it shows, barring bugs, that there are no (finite) ships at all. This was easily and quickly the case for c/2, c/3, 2c/4, and 2c/5.Haycat2009 wrote: September 4th, 2023, 11:48 pm Are there any spaceships that work in both B35/S23 and B3/S23?
On the other hand, c/4, c/5, c/4d, and c/5d did not complete with 8G of RAM, but what little poking I've done so far for finite widths hasn't turned up anything so the jury is still out.
Perhaps more results later when I have more RAM available to allocate to the question or when more searches at finite width have completed.
*My definition of "shared" here is the strictest possible, namely that not only is the collection of cell coordinates the same in one generation, but the evolution through all generations is identical (and therefore at no point is the absence/presence of B5 used). Contrast with a weaker definition where one generation must match but intervening generations could proceed differently as long as they looped back around to the same matching generation.
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-q5nq/S2-ck3-n4ir5y 2o$b2o$o!
drc wrote: January 16th, 2017, 2:53 pmI win the thread.Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B35ijn6i/S23-cnq4jy5n 3o$2bo$bo!
All the search programs for which I have even a vague idea of the operation principles (gfind, LSSS, LGOL, LLSSS) are very insistent on knowing the states of all generations. I would in fact assume most if not all successful search programs are going to be similarly insistent.Haycat2009 wrote: November 20th, 2023, 2:23 amWith the weaker definition (Something like the golden head), how do we search for those?amling wrote: November 19th, 2023, 11:34 pm *My definition of "shared" here is the strictest possible, namely that not only is the collection of cell coordinates the same in one generation, but the evolution through all generations is identical (and therefore at no point is the absence/presence of B5 used). Contrast with a weaker definition where one generation must match but intervening generations could proceed differently as long as they looped back around to the same matching generation.
c/4, c/5, and c/5d also did not complete with 60G of RAM. c/4d did complete with no results.amling wrote: November 19th, 2023, 11:34 pmc/4, c/5, c/4d, and c/5d did not complete with 8G of RAM...Haycat2009 wrote: September 4th, 2023, 11:48 pm Are there any spaceships that work in both B35/S23 and B3/S23?
No luck for any of c/4, c/5, or c/5d for LLSSS up to 60G. Longest partials do not even look very interesting or healthy.
This is copperhead, a small c/10 from normal life.
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x = 10, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3b4o2$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o!Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 13, rule = B37/S23
4b2o$3b4o$4b2o$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o!Another small difference is that the goldenhead requires S3i to function, while the copperhead does not.azulavoir wrote: November 29th, 2023, 1:57 pmThis is copperhead, a small c/10 from normal life.This, on the other hand, is goldenhead, a nearly identical small c/10 in Drylife:Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 4b2o$3b4o2$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o!
They differ in one phase by two cells but are otherwise basically the same ship.Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 13, rule = B37/S23 4b2o$3b4o$4b2o$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o!
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x = 10, y = 13, rule = B3/S23-i
4b2o$3b4o2$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o!Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 13, rule = B37/S23-i
4b2o$3b4o$4b2o$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o!That is typical of things that work slightly differently in other rules, but the main question is how to search for those.Period1GliderGun wrote: November 29th, 2023, 3:34 pmAnother small difference is that the goldenhead requires S3i to function, while the copperhead does not.azulavoir wrote: November 29th, 2023, 1:57 pmThis is copperhead, a small c/10 from normal life.This, on the other hand, is goldenhead, a nearly identical small c/10 in Drylife:Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 4b2o$3b4o2$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o!
They differ in one phase by two cells but are otherwise basically the same ship.Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 13, rule = B37/S23 4b2o$3b4o$4b2o$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o!Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 13, rule = B3/S23-i 4b2o$3b4o2$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o!Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 13, rule = B37/S23-i 4b2o$3b4o$4b2o$2b6o$3b4o2$2b2o2b2o$2obo2bob2o$3bo2bo3$4b2o$4b2o!
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amling wrote: November 29th, 2023, 2:10 am No luck for any of c/4, c/5, or c/5d for LLSSS up to 60G. Longest partials do not even look very interesting or healthy.
My understanding is that supercomputers rely on parallel architectures for their speed, but gfind is single threaded; it is not written for parallel computing. I imagine a gfind search on a supercomputer wouldn't be much faster than on a home desktop.Haycat2009 wrote: January 11th, 2024, 12:02 am No worries - my roommate works at a research lab, which has a supercomputer. I will ask him to run gfind for 24 hours.
Below are the two soups linked from object/zz_EXPLOSIVE/b35s23:
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#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/hashsoup/H2_+2/k_PBgu9nWFGbCH25589123/b35s23
#C Soup k_PBgu9nWFGbCH25589123 was found on 2023-09-20 at 11:53:27 UTC and is owned by carsoncheng
x = 16, y = 32, rule = B35/S23
boboobbboobbbboo$
oobboobbbbooooob$
oooobboooooobbob$
bboobbobobooooob$
oobbboobbbobbooo$
obooobobbbboobbo$
obbbobbobobbbooo$
bbbooboobbbbbboo$
bbobobbobooboooo$
bobbobbbooobbooo$
bbboooobobbbbobb$
bboobboobbobobob$
booobbooobooobob$
ooobbbbobooobbob$
ooboooooobooooob$
bobbbboobooobbbb$
bobbbboobooobbbb$
ooboooooobooooob$
ooobbbbobooobbob$
booobbooobooobob$
bboobboobbobobob$
bbboooobobbbbobb$
bobbobbbooobbooo$
bbobobbobooboooo$
bbbooboobbbbbboo$
obbbobbobobbbooo$
obooobobbbboobbo$
oobbboobbbobbooo$
bboobbobobooooob$
oooobboooooobbob$
oobboobbbbooooob$
boboobbboobbbboo!
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#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/hashsoup/H2_+2/k_hW7DHtAngTsf41635944/b35s23
#C Soup k_hW7DHtAngTsf41635944 was found on 2023-09-20 at 14:17:57 UTC and is owned by carsoncheng
x = 16, y = 32, rule = B35/S23
ooboobobooobboob$
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boooboobooboobbo$
bbboboobobbbbobb$
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bobobboboobboobo$
oobbboooboobobbo$
obbbbobbooobbobb$
boboooobbobobbbb$
bbobbbbbbobboboo$
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obbobooooboooboo$
boboobbbbobbbboo$
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ooobbboboooobbbb$
oboboobboobooobo$
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ooobbboboooobbbb$
bbooboobbboobbob$
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boboooobbobobbbb$
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bobobboboobboobo$
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ooboobobooobboob!