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Posted: **January 15th, 2020, 11:46 am**

Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 11:04 am It doesn't need Einsteins theory of relativity to imagine yourself riding along with the glider.

You have already lost. I am still searching piece 3.

On cellular automata and the real world, Konrad Zuse did write a 1969 treatise called Calculating Space (Rechnender Raum) where a model of the physical universe as a cellular automaton was presented. It was a fascinating topic at the time, but is not pursued much now.

Posted: **January 15th, 2020, 11:56 am**

Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 11:04 am It doesn't need Einsteins theory of relativity to imagine yourself riding along with the glider.

It would seem rather strange that a concept describing the real world would be able to do anything for you in CGoL

Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 11:02 amI don't [agree with dvgrn].

What he said about how calling us ignorant is unlikely to allow us to return to the topic of the thread is true, however.

Posted: **January 15th, 2020, 1:46 pm**

Moosey wrote: January 15th, 2020, 11:56 am
What he said about how calling us ignorant is unlikely to allow us to ŕ to the topic of the thread is true, however.

What do you know about "the truth"?

Posted: **January 15th, 2020, 2:55 pm**

Hubi1857 wrote: January 14th, 2020, 10:55 pmWell, as I already said:
I am forced all the time to struggle against not only the ignorance of most of mathematicians but of most of scientists, priests and polititians, also.
Any chances whatsoever that we'll be back on topic before I die?

dvgrn wrote: January 14th, 2020, 11:08 pmThe chances will be much improved if you will please stop repeating that line, and instead say something that is on topic. Preferably this would be a calm response to a point that someone else has made.

Moosey wrote: January 15th, 2020, 7:39 amI agree with dvgrn.

Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 11:02 amI don't.

Moosey wrote: January 15th, 2020, 11:56 amWhat he said about how calling us ignorant is unlikely to allow us to ŕ to the topic of the thread is true, however.

Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 1:46 pmWhat do you know about "the truth"?

It is quite plain, from watching the continued burning of this dumpster fire, that, at least in this one particular instance, dvgrn's observation is true, as is Moosey's agreement with it. Your continuing to argue about it just proves their point.

If you sincerely want to continue discussing the original topic, the easiest way is to post something that actually deals with the original topic. It's literally that simple. Instead, you keep repeating again and again your insult against the intelligence of almost everyone here and elsewhere. Continued argument on the forums is one way to get totally banned from them, and has actually had this effect on a few people in the past who kept arguing even after being warned repeatedly. Please stop.

Posted: **January 15th, 2020, 4:25 pm**

I hate to drag myself into this nonsense, but:

Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 2:45 pm Here another famous quote, qouted without the intention to spit onto anyone of the intelligent designers of this forum:

I'm curious what makes you think that we're affiliated with the intelligent design or any other "alternative science" movement.

Posted: **January 15th, 2020, 5:13 pm**

Sorry, posted into the wrong thread.
Could one of the admins please move my latest post into this very thread about

"cellular automata according to Max Planck"?

Posted: **January 15th, 2020, 5:51 pm**

Ian07 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 4:25 pm I hate to drag myself into this nonsense, but:
Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 2:45 pm Here another famous quote, qouted without the intention to spit onto anyone of the intelligent designers of this forum:
I'm curious what makes you think that we're affiliated with the intelligent design or any other "alternative science" movement.

^
Apparently you read this thread's title but not its first post?

(Personally, I do not believe in any "alternative science")

Posted: **January 15th, 2020, 6:44 pm**

Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 5:13 pm Sorry, posted into the wrong thread.
Could one of the admins please move my latest post into this very thread about

"cellular automata according to Max Planck"?

Your latest post before this one is just a partial quote from a previous post. Is that the one you mean? Requests like this are much less likely to go wrong if you include a specific link.

I'm happy to help occasionally with moderator-only tasks, but as it happens, this is something you can take care of fairly well yourself. If you follow the above link, edit the post, copy the text in the edit box, and come back to this thread and paste the text here, that will give you a copy of your other message. You can change the text of the old message to say just "delete" (this is also a standard thing to do with mistaken posts). A moderator can then click the X button for that message on sight, without worrying about possible miscommunication and maybe deleting the wrong message.

If you do move that message over, please consider adding a sentence or so of explanation as to why you think it's relevant to do that. In general it's just plain not good forum etiquette to cross-post the exact same thing in multiple threads. And the forum rules also include

Quoting earlier posts is fine (and encouraged), but only quote text that is actually relevant to your post.

Posted: **January 15th, 2020, 6:54 pm**

I'm happy to help occasionally

You won't stop rebuking me until I die, am I right?

Posted: **January 15th, 2020, 7:05 pm**

Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 6:54 pm
I'm happy to help occasionally
You won't stop rebuking me until I die, am I right?

What I find stupid about this is that dvgrn is helping you and saying that he loves to help you, and you, in response, say, in essence:
"You're such a jerk"

If this is the level of gratitude you show for him helping you, dvgrn should ban you already. So far, he's been nice enough to not ban you, but other people can see how incredibly rude this sort of thing is too. if other mods were actually more active, one of them probably would have been less tolerant of your incredible rudeness to dvgrn than he is.

Posted: **January 15th, 2020, 10:37 pm**

What matters to me
Doesn't matter, matter to you
What matters to you
Doesn't matter, matter to me
What matters to me
Doesn't matter, matter to them
What matters to them
Doesn't change anything

Imogen Heap

Posted: **January 16th, 2020, 8:30 am**

If curious figure out here why I registered with this forum of Conway addicts:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4222&p=87563#p86537

BTW:

Moosey wrote: January 15th, 2020, 5:51 pm
(Personally, I do not believe in any "alternative science")

Apparently you are unable to distinguish neither science from religion, nor biology from physics, nor rational from irrational numbers!

Posted: **January 16th, 2020, 10:12 am**

Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 6:54 pmYou won't stop rebuking me until I die, am I right?

Not quite right, no.

If you appear to be making a good-faith effort to understand and follow the rules of the forum, but you make an honest mistake now and then, I'll continue to point out what you did wrong and suggest what you can do differently. For example, you provided a link to your other post, rather than copying the whole thing -- thank you!

However, if you continue to make off-topic posts that sound as if you're angry at everyone who challenges your bad behavior, then I'll ban you from the forums for increasing lengths of time: one week, one month, and then permanently.

Hubi1857 wrote: January 16th, 2020, 8:30 amBTW:

Moosey wrote: January 15th, 2020, 5:51 pm
(Personally, I do not believe in any "alternative science")
Apparently you are unable to distinguish neither science from religion, nor biology from physics, nor rational from irrational numbers!

Please edit your post and remove the section I quoted. It's an unnecessary attack, and it doesn't really follow from the previous conversation. If you can't learn how to avoid starting and escalating pointless arguments, your posts are not welcome here.

If my suggested edit doesn't happen within a day or so, or if that sentence is replaced with other similar attacks, I'll start the one-week ban I mentioned above.

I could be wrong, of course, but I'm guessing that you believe that your "Apparently..." reply was not an escalation, just a reflection of an attack you saw in Moosey's "Apparently you read this thread's title but not its first post?". Maybe your answer was intended to irritate Moosey exactly as much as Moosey's question irritated you.

It's never a good idea to post messages whose only purpose is to irritate someone. It would have been much better to answer Ian07's and Moosey's questions clearly and calmly, and move on. Now, if you think that it would also have been better if Moosey had not asked that question, with its implied attack on your reading comprehension abilities... well, I'd agree with that. But the question was a valid question -- it really does seem as if you might not have read or understood that first post -- and in any case, your reply is out of all proportion to the offense.

Another quote from the forum rules:

Nathaniel wrote: March 18th, 2016, 8:52 pm[*] This is an academic forum, not a chat or microblogging platform.

A good rule would be that if you've composed a message while you're angry or upset, it almost certainly should not be posted here.

Posted: **January 16th, 2020, 10:20 am**

dvgrn wrote: January 16th, 2020, 10:12 am

Hubi1857 wrote: January 16th, 2020, 8:30 amBTW:

Moosey wrote: January 15th, 2020, 5:51 pm
(Personally, I do not believe in any "alternative science")
Apparently you are unable to distinguish neither science from religion, nor biology from physics, nor rational from irrational numbers!
Please edit your post and remove the section I quoted. It's an unnecessary attack, and it doesn't really follow from the previous conversation. If you can't learn how to avoid starting and escalating pointless arguments, your posts are not welcome here.

You'd better ask @Moosey first before you continue rebuking me!

Posted: **January 16th, 2020, 11:26 am**

Hubi1857 wrote: January 16th, 2020, 10:20 amYou'd better ask @Moosey first before you continue rebuking me!

Please read my post carefully. I've already addressed that issue, and won't be spending much more time trying to explain it to you.

Your opinion that you're being mistreated is clearly very strongly held. Judging by people's responses so far, that opinion is not shared by anyone else reading these forums. It looks to me as if your mistreatment of other members of the forum has caused pretty much all of the issues that you're complaining about. The simplest way to address this is with a ban, and you have now been warned twice.

Posted: **January 16th, 2020, 1:11 pm**

dvgrn wrote: January 16th, 2020, 11:26 am
Hubi1857 wrote: January 16th, 2020, 10:20 amYou'd better ask @Moosey first before you continue rebuking me!
Please read my post carefully.

I'm sick of you rebuking me, Mary Poppins!

Posted: **January 16th, 2020, 1:38 pm**

Hubi1857 wrote: January 16th, 2020, 1:11 pmI'm sick of you rebuking me, Mary Poppins!

All right. I've solved that problem for you temporarily. This message is your third and final warning, and the first ban period is one week.

After that period, any further posts similar your most recent one -- i.e., messages that have absolutely nothing to do with the thread's topic or the forum's purpose, and that serve only to escalate pointless arguments -- will immediately trigger a one-month ban with no further warnings, and then a permanent ban if this kind of silliness is repeated again. One way or another, there will be no further rebukes from me.

Posted: **January 16th, 2020, 3:30 pm**

Hubi1857 wrote: January 16th, 2020, 10:20 am You'd better ask @Moosey first before you continue rebuking me!

Okay, I will tell dvgrn this: I agree that hubi should have removed what he said, because it is a hopelessly useless and false insult.

I also agree with dvgrn's statement

dvgrn wrote: January 16th, 2020, 11:26 am Your opinion that you're being mistreated is clearly very strongly held. Judging by people's responses so far, that opinion is not shared by anyone else reading these forums. It looks to me as if your mistreatment of other members of the forum has caused pretty much all of the issues that you're complaining about.

And I feel that a ban was an apt punishment for Hubi for harassing dvgrn, who was only trying to help Hubi.

Apparently you are unable to distinguish neither science from religion, nor biology from physics, nor rational from irrational numbers!

@Hubi I called it "alternative science" because that's what the term for it is. Obviously if I named it myself I would simply call it something that its creators would hate me for.
I have no clue why you would think that I, a calculus student, would be unable to distinguish rational and irrational numbers, or that I would be unable to tell the study of living things from the science of moving things, electricity, and tiny particles.

I consider that an insult that was completely unnecessary.

Posted: **January 16th, 2020, 4:03 pm**

Now I know cellular automata from Planck to *plonk*.

Note: the first few posts were pretentious but creative and at least a little thought-provoking, not terrible for sandbox. It's a shame he cannot abide any criticism.

Posted: **January 17th, 2020, 12:37 am**

Moosey wrote: January 16th, 2020, 3:30 pm I consider that an insult that was completely unnecessary.

Beware of the Cartmans of this world!

Posted: **January 17th, 2020, 2:42 am**

dvgrn wrote: January 12th, 2020, 7:25 am
The general pattern around here is that if you start nominating people for the W.C. Fields medal, you automatically receive one.

Posted: **January 20th, 2020, 1:17 pm**

dvgrn wrote: January 16th, 2020, 10:12 am
Nathaniel wrote: March 18th, 2016, 8:52 pm[*] This is an academic forum, not a chat or microblogging platform.
A good rule would be that if you've composed a message while you're angry or upset, it almost certainly should not be posted here.

Forum rule number 1:

Be kind, honest, and respectful.

This includes: Assume the best of others. If their comments can be taken in a positive light, do so.

Human species homo sapiens sapiens is doomed to go extinct because they simply do not stop kissing the asses of their leaders and treat those who don't with scorn.

Way too ignorant, greasy and hoggish to fight for the survival of their own children!

(Completely off topic, I know, but without any apologies whatsoever to the moderators, admins and owners of www.conwaylife.com, David Hilbert, Giuseppe Peano, Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Isaac Newton, Galileo Galilei, Angela Merkel, Donald Trump, Boris Johnson and, very especially, the pontifeces maximae Franciscus and Benedictus of Rome.)

Yours eternally, Kenny.
(Hoping (and praying too, you bet!) to qualify for the first W.C.Fields medal for the most annoying and irrelevant posting of the year.)

BTW:
Have you realized how felicitous I was avoiding to mention Roger Penrose, princeps mathematicorum Carl Friedrich Gauss and Archimedes of Syracuse?

I'm simply the greatest, am I not?

Posted: **January 20th, 2020, 7:22 pm**

KennyFromSouthPark wrote: January 20th, 2020, 1:17 pm Human species homo sapiens sapiens is doomed to go extinct because they simply do not stop kissing the asses of their leaders and treat those who don't with scorn.

Do you understand the difference between kowtowing to authority and showing respect for your peers?

Posted: **January 20th, 2020, 8:34 pm**

pcallahan wrote: January 20th, 2020, 7:22 pm Do you understand the difference between kowtowing to authority and showing respect for your peers?

Yes, I do!

Amongst my peers were Stephen Hawking, Paul Dirac and Isaac Newton.

And, btw, do you understand the difference between yourself and your image in the mirror?

Posted: **January 21st, 2020, 2:17 am**

Freywa wrote: January 15th, 2020, 11:46 am
Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 11:04 am It doesn't need Einsteins theory of relativity to imagine yourself riding along with the glider.
You have already lost. I am still searching piece 3.

Piece 3 of what?

Those have lost who haven't realized yet that the Cold War and the madness of the 20th century knows no winners, just survivers.

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