Sandbox for Larger-than-Life, Higher Range Outer Totalistic, ... rules with R>1

A forum for topics that don't fit elsewhere. Introduce yourselves to other members of the forums, discuss how your name evolves when written out in the Game of Life, or just tell us how you found it. Forum rules still apply.
Post Reply
User avatar
martin.novy
Posts: 142
Joined: October 22nd, 2014, 6:22 am
Location: Czechia, EU
Contact:
Contact martin.novy

Sandbox for Larger-than-Life, Higher Range Outer Totalistic, ... rules with R>1

Post by martin.novy »

R3 LtL seem much more interesting than R2 LtL

a relatively long-boiling soup (for a LtL) ... approx. 80*80, approx. 900 generations

Code: Select all

#CXRLE Pos=0,-20 Gen=1
x = 81, y = 79, rule = R3,C0,M1,S12..19,B12..14,NM
4ob2o2bo4bo3b2o6bo2bob6o3bob4o3b2o2b2ob4o2b2o13b2obo$2bo6b2obobobob2o
2b2o2b5ob7ob2ob2o2b2o2bobob2ob3o5bobo2b5ob3o$3b2obo4b3o3bob2o2bo3b2o2b
ob3o5bob4obo3b2o2bob2o2bo2bo4bo3b7o$ob2o3bobob2o2bo6bob2obo2b2o5b2obob
obo4bo5b3o2b2obo3bo3b2ob5obo$4bo2b2ob4o4bob3obo4bobo6b2o3bob5o3bobo3b
2o4b4o2b3o3bo$ob2o2bo2b2obo4b2obob4obo4bo3b3o2bo2bo2bob2obob2ob4o2bo5b
5o2b3obo$bobo3b3obob2o2b4o2b3o3b3o2bobo5b2o3b2o2b2obobo3bo3bo2b2obob4o
b2o$3bo4bob3o4b3ob6o3b2o2bob3ob2o2b2obob2obob2ob2ob2obob2o2bobobo2bo$
4obobob3obob3o2b2o3bobo4bo2bo4b3o2bobobob3ob2obob4obo2b2ob9o$2bo5b2ob
2o3b5obob2o2bo4bo3b4obo2bob6ob3o3bo3b5ob3ob5obo$3b2obo2b5o3b2o3bo2bob
2obobo2bob2o3bob2obobob4o2bo4b2obo5bobobo4bo$b2o3b3o2b3o2bobob3o2bo2bo
b3o2b2ob2o2b2o2bo5b2o2bob2obobob2o3b2o3b2o$2o2b3obo3b3o3bob3ob2o4b3o4b
2o2bob2ob3o3b2o5bob2obob2ob4ob5obo$2o3bobo2bob5o4bob3o3bo2bobo2b2obobo
3bo2b3obo4bo2b4ob3obo2bobobobo$o3bo2bob5ob3ob3ob3ob2o3b2ob4ob2ob3ob2ob
2ob5obo3bob4o4bo3bo2bo$o2bobo3bo3bob3obo2bobobo2b2o2b2obob6obo4bob9ob
4o2bobo2bobo2b2o$3o3b7obob3o2bobobob5o6bo2b5o2b3obob2o3bo2b4o5bo5bo2bo
$2b2ob9o2bo3bo2bobob3o6b3o2b2o3b4ob6o5b2obo3bo7bobo$4b3obobo2b4o4bob2o
b5ob2o2bo3b3o2bobob2obobo2bo3b2o4bo2b2obob2ob2o$4bo2bobob2o2bo6bo2bobo
bo2b3o3b3ob2ob2ob2o4b3o2bo2bob2obob3ob2o$2o2b2ob3o4b3o2b2o5b3obo2bo3bo
11b2obo2bobobo3b5ob2ob2o3b4o$b2obobo3b2obob2ob3obobo4b2ob2obob2ob6ob2o
b3o3b2o4bo4b5o3bob2o$b2obob2obo4bob4obo3b7o2b5obo2b2obo5b7ob2o3bo3b3ob
o3b2o$bo4bob2obob2obo2b5o2b2o5bob5o2b3o4bob5obo2bobobob2ob2o2bobobo2bo
$o2bob3o2b2obo2b2o4b2o2b4ob4o6b2o4b3ob8ob2ob2o3b9obo$bob7o5bob2o4bo2b
3obobo3bo3b3ob2ob3o3bo2bobobo2bo2b2o2b3o$b4obob2obo3b3o7bo4bob3o2b2ob
4o2bo3bo3b2o2bob2o2b3ob2o2b2obob2obo$b2obo2b3o4bo2bo2bobob7ob2ob2o2bob
obobo5bo2b4o3bo4b2o2b5o$2o3b2o2bob2ob4o2bob2o2b2ob2o2b2ob2o2bo2b2obo5b
2ob2o2b2ob2o2bo5bo6b2o$bo6bob2ob3obobob4obobo2bo2b3o2bo3bob5obo2bobo2b
2ob2o2bobo2bo2b4o2bo$obo2bo3b2obobo11bo2b6o7bo10bo2bobo2b2obob2obo2b2o
2bo$obob2ob2ob2obo4b3obob2ob2obobo2bob2o2b5obo2b3o2b4obob2o2b2o2b2o2b
3o2b2o$b5o2bo5b3obo3bo3bo3bobobo2b2o2b3o3bob2obo2b2ob3o2bob4o6b2o2b2o$
2bob3o3b3o2bo3b3o3bo2b2obo2bob4o2bo7b3o5b4ob3o2b2o3b2o3bo$5b3o2b2o5bo
6bo2bobob3ob3ob2ob3ob2ob4o2b3o4bob2obo2bo2b3o3b2o$ob3ob3obob3obob2o2b
5o2b2o4bobob4obobob2o2b2o3b2obo5b2obobo2b2ob3o$bob2ob2ob3obo2b2o6bobo
3b6obo2b2ob2ob5ob3o3bo2bo2bo3b2obo2b2ob3o$bob3o2b2obob2obo3bobo3bobo4b
3obo4bo5b2obo3b2ob4o4bob5ob2o2b2o$3b3o2b2o3b3obobo2bo3b3o7b2ob2o2bo3bo
b3obob4ob3ob2ob6o2b2obo$4o2bo3bobobobo4bo4bo4bo2b8o3bobobobob5o3b3o3b
2o2bo2b2o2b3o$5o3bob2o2bobo2bob4o3b3o2b7obo4bobo2bobo2bob4obo3bo5b3obo
b2o$2o3b4o7b5ob2o3b2o2b3obo2b2o4bo3b3ob5o4bo6b4obo3bob2o$3b2ob3o2b2ob
2o2bo2b6obo2b7o5b2o2b2o2b2o4b8obo2bobobo3b2obo$2obob3o2bo3bo4bo4b2obob
2o4bo4bobobob3ob3o10b2o2bo2b2o2bob3o$4bob2obobob2obob3obob2o3bobo4b3o
2bob2o3bob5o2bob4ob2o2bo2b4obob2o$2o2b3obo5b4obo3b2o2b2obobob2obob2ob
5obob4o2bob4o4b2obo3bo2b2obo$o6bob2o2b3o4bobo2b2o2bo5bo2b2o2b3o5b2o2bo
3b3o5bob2o5b6o$3o3bobo3bobob3ob2obo2b3o3bobob5obob6ob2o6b3o2bo4b3o6bo$
b4o2b2o2b3o2b2ob2ob5obo2b2o3b5obo3b2ob3obobo2b4ob4ob2ob3o3b2o$bo2bob2o
2b3o2b2ob5o2b2o7bobob3o2bo2b2o4b2o2b4o2bo3bo3bob2ob2o2bo$b4obobobob3o
3b4ob2obob2ob3ob2ob6ob3obob2obo5b4obobo7bo$b2ob2o2bobo2b3ob3o2bobo3bo
2b6ob2obo2b3o8b5obo2b2obo2bobo2b2ob2o$3bo2b2ob2o2bobo2bob2o5b2o3b2o4b
3ob5o3b4o3b5obobobo4b2obobo$4bo2b4o5b2ob3o2b7ob8obo4bo2b2ob5o2b3obob3o
2bob2obobobo$3ob3o2bob2o2bo3bobob2o3bobobob3o2bobob2obo4b3obobo2b3ob2o
2bob2ob2obob2o$4o4bo2bo2bo7bo3bobo2b2o2bo4bo2bo3b3ob2o6bo2b3o5b2ob3o2b
2o$2o2bo2b2o2bo2bo2b2obo5bobobobo6bo2bo3bob2ob2o2bob2o4bobo3bo3b3o2bob
o$3obobobobob3o5bob2ob3ob4obo4b2ob2obob3o3bob3o2b6ob2o3b3o4bo$o2bo2b2o
2b3o2bobobo3bob2o3b4o6bobobobo2bo2b2ob2o2bo4bo3b2ob2obo2b2obo$3b2obob
3ob2obo4b2o3bobo3b2obo3bob6ob3o2b2o6b7o2b2o3b4o2bo$3o3bobobobobo3bobo
2bo9b7ob4obo4bobo2bob4o2b2obobo2bob2o$5bobo2b2ob3o2b2ob3obo2bob2o2bo2b
3o4bo3b4obo2bo2bob2o3b2obob2o2b2ob2o$bo3bo2b3obobo6b3ob2o2b5o2b4obob2o
2b3obo3bobo2bob4ob2ob2ob4ob2o$b2obob3ob2o2b4obo3bo4bob2o2bobo7bob3obob
2o2b4o3b2ob3obob2ob5o$4ob2o2b2o4b6o4bo3b2obob3ob2ob2ob6obo2b5obobo2bo
2bob2o2b4o2bo$2bo2b3ob3obob2ob2ob3o3b4o2b4obob2o3b2ob3o8b3o4b4o2bo$3b
2ob2o3bo2bobo2bobob2obo3bo2b2ob4ob2obo2bob4ob2ob2o2bo7bobobo2bo3bo$2b
2o2bo3bo2b4ob2obobo2bo3bobo2b2o3b2o3bo5bob2o2b2o2bo3b2obobo3b2o3bo$o3b
o3bo2b2ob2o2b2o4b2o2bo4bo5bob2o3bobo3b2o2bo5b3o2bob5o4bobo$bobo2b4o2b
2o4bo2bob3o3b2o3bobob2obo3bo3b3o3bo2b2obo5b2o4b2o2bo$b4obo2bob3o3b2o2b
2o3bobo6bo2b3obobob5o2b2obobobobo2b5obo5bobo$2o3b3ob2ob3o2b2obob7ob2ob
3o2b2ob2obo2b3o3b2obo2bob3obobobo3b2o4bo$2bo2b2o2bo2b2obobo4b2o7b5obob
2ob2o2bobo2b5ob5o2b2o4bobob2ob2obo$2o2bo3bob2obo8b4o3b3ob2o3bob2ob3obo
b3o2b2obobob3o3b2o2bob4o2bo$2obob2ob2o5bobo2b4o4b2o2bo3bob2obobob2ob4o
2b2o6bo3bobo5bo2b4o$b3o4b2obo2bob3ob2obo4b2o2b9o3bobobobob6ob5ob3o5bo
3bo2bo$2ob2ob2obo2b4o4b2o4b2o2bo2bo4b4obo6b3ob2o6bo2b2ob2o3b2ob2obo$ob
o2bobo3b3o2b2o2b2o2b2o5b3ob2ob3obo3b3ob4ob4o2b4o7bobo2b2obo$2obo2b2obo
3b2o6b3ob3o3bo6bo3bobo5bo2b2o2bobobo7b3obo4b2o!
Top
User avatar
martin.novy
Posts: 142
Joined: October 22nd, 2014, 6:22 am
Location: Czechia, EU
Contact:
Contact martin.novy

LtL Challenge

Post by martin.novy »

martin.novy wrote: April 28th, 2020, 9:53 am a relatively long-boiling soup (for a LtL) ... approx. 80*80, approx. 900 generations

challenge: find a better LtL rule or a better random soup
Top
User avatar
Saka
Posts: 3626
Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm
Location: Indonesia
Contact:
Contact Saka

Re: Sandbox for Larger-than-Life, Higher Range Outer Totalistic, ... rules with R>1

Post by Saka »

What's the difference between this and the larger than life thread?
jarring cyan
Top
User avatar
martin.novy
Posts: 142
Joined: October 22nd, 2014, 6:22 am
Location: Czechia, EU
Contact:
Contact martin.novy

Re: Sandbox for Larger-than-Life, Higher Range Outer Totalistic, ... rules with R>1

Post by martin.novy »

Saka wrote: April 28th, 2020, 10:42 am What's the difference between this and the larger than life thread?
Thanks for asking.

I thought , it would be better, if I posted at the normal thread on weekends, and only selected ones from my posts.
Top
User avatar
Saka
Posts: 3626
Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm
Location: Indonesia
Contact:
Contact Saka

Re: Sandbox for Larger-than-Life, Higher Range Outer Totalistic, ... rules with R>1

Post by Saka »

martin.novy wrote: April 28th, 2020, 10:50 am
Thanks for asking.

I thought , it would be better, if I posted at the normal thread only on weekends, and only selected ones from my posts.
Larger than life weekender, cool!
So you're using this as a sort of storage? Why don't you just save them on your computer?
jarring cyan
Top
User avatar
martin.novy
Posts: 142
Joined: October 22nd, 2014, 6:22 am
Location: Czechia, EU
Contact:
Contact martin.novy

Re: Sandbox for Larger-than-Life, Higher Range Outer Totalistic, ... rules with R>1

Post by martin.novy »

Saka wrote: April 28th, 2020, 10:53 am
So you're using this as a sort of storage? Why don't you just save them on your computer?
... well,

I have prepared some material at
https://photos.app.goo.gl/D9UXdraV8ZhNn1wR6
(most of the pictures are mine)

and at
https://github.com/martin12333/PyMartinCA/tree/beta
(subfolders for 5 classes of rules, most of them have natural spaceships)

... and I am not sure, whether, when, and how, to publish some pieces from my work at the forums .

... I thought I should first start converting my Python scripts to Pyodide ( Pyodide is e.g. https://alpha.iodide.io/notebooks/4520/ ) -- then anyone could run them in their browser
Last edited by martin.novy on May 2nd, 2020, 5:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
Top
User avatar
martin.novy
Posts: 142
Joined: October 22nd, 2014, 6:22 am
Location: Czechia, EU
Contact:
Contact martin.novy

settleTime of random soups for the Game of Life and for 2 LTL rules

Post by martin.novy »

for any rule
I define a random variable

Code: Select all

settleTime240in320
=
the number
	of generations before periodicity
for a random soup 240*240
	with density 0.5
	in grid 320*320
For the GoL, the first output was
(first column is the settleTime240in320)

pmc10 5556 0.027 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 1
pmc10 5400 0.024 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 2
pmc10 4752 0.024 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 3
pmc10 5316 0.026 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 4
pmc10 5999 0.029 0.005 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 5
pmc10 4500 0.026 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 6
pmc10 3024 0.024 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 7
pmc10 3324 0.026 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 8
pmc10 2460 0.019 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 9


For an R2 LtL
bmin=7; bmax=8; smin=6; smax=10
pmc10 1332 0.009 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 1
pmc10 744 0.012 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 2
pmc10 660 0.014 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 3
pmc10 384 0.012 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 4
pmc10 636 0.011 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 5
pmc10 420 0.013 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 6
pmc10 816 0.014 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 7
pmc10 360 0.012 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 8
pmc10 540 0.015 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 9



Please note, that this settleTime240 is not exactly fair for LtL with larger R , because the soup size is fixed.
(a different statistics would have been, if the size of the soup had grown with the R)


For an R3 LtL
bmin=12; bmax=14; smin=12; smax=19
pmc10 744 0.000 0.000 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 1
pmc10 3768 0.000 0.001 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 2
pmc10 1008 0.001 0.000 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 3
pmc10 2832 0.002 0.000 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 4
pmc10 2184 0.000 0.001 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 5
pmc10 1236 0.000 0.001 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 6
pmc10 1788 0.001 0.000 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 7
pmc10 1620 0.001 0.002 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 8
pmc10 1812 0.001 0.001 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 9

https://github.com/martin12333/PyMartin ... nsity-plot
Top
User avatar
yujh
Posts: 3157
Joined: February 27th, 2020, 11:23 pm
Location: I'm not sure where I am, so please tell me if you know
Contact:
Contact yujh

Re: Sandbox for Larger-than-Life, Higher Range Outer Totalistic, ... rules with R>1

Post by yujh »

Just want to say hello once []AGAIN[]
Rule modifier

B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k
b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8
B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8
B3-kq4z5e7c8/S2-ci3-a4ciq5ek6eik7

Bored of Conway's Game of Life? Try Pedestrian Life -- not pedestrian at all!
Top
User avatar
martin.novy
Posts: 142
Joined: October 22nd, 2014, 6:22 am
Location: Czechia, EU
Contact:
Contact martin.novy

density plots of random soups for the Game of Life and for the 2 LTL rules

Post by martin.novy »

Screenshot from 2020-04-29 1533.png
Screenshot from 2020-04-29 1533.png (274.03 KiB) Viewed 2384 times

Code: Select all

In [43]: fig = plt.figure()

In [44]: %time %run r1.py
1
9
pmc10 4404 0.024 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 1
pmc10 4752 0.025 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 2
pmc10 2232 0.025 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 3
pmc10 3444 0.024 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 4
pmc10 3108 0.023 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 5
pmc10 5052 0.025 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 6
pmc10 5520 0.024 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 7
pmc10 3360 0.024 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 8
pmc10 2340 0.025 0.000 ltl 1 3 3 3 4 320 240 9
CPU times: user 12.7 s, sys: 0 ns, total: 12.7 s
Wall time: 12.7 s

In [45]: %time %run r2.py
1
9
pmc10 468 0.012 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 1
pmc10 540 0.010 0.001 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 2
pmc10 384 0.012 0.001 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 3
pmc10 588 0.012 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 4
pmc10 804 0.013 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 5
pmc10 432 0.011 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 6
pmc10 624 0.012 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 7
pmc10 648 0.013 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 8
pmc10 492 0.011 0.000 ltl 2 7 8 6 10 320 240 9
CPU times: user 4.06 s, sys: 0 ns, total: 4.06 s
Wall time: 4.13 s

In [46]: %time %run r3.py
1
9
pmc10 3660 0.001 0.000 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 1
pmc10 3492 0.001 0.001 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 2
pmc10 1548 0.000 0.000 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 3
pmc10 1488 0.001 0.000 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 4
pmc10 1272 0.000 0.000 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 5
pmc10 2028 0.001 0.001 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 6
pmc10 3999 0.002 0.005 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 7
pmc10 3216 0.001 0.001 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 8
pmc10 1116 0.001 0.001 ltl 3 12 14 12 19 320 240 9
Top
Post Reply

Return to “The Sandbox”