New rulespace idea

[BokaBB]

I have new great idea for the rulespace. Here I will explain it.
Cells can be born if(amount) neighbours have(amount) neighbours and survive if (amout) neighbours have (amount) neighbours. There also can be written A in the meaning of ,,all".
Here is an example how it would ve written:
B(3478)4578/S(367)56/M1.
First numbers are amount of cell's neighbours,and second ones amount og cell's neighbour's neighbours.
There is also an extra M on the end. If M is 1,the cell will also count as a neighbour of its neighbours when it is counted will cell survive. If M is 0,it will not be counted.
I wonder if anyone can make script for this rulespace.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[EvinZL]

I have new great idea for the algorithm. Here I will explain it.
Cells can be born if(amount) neighbours have(amount) neighbours and survive if (amout) neighbours have (amount) neighbours. There also can be written A in the meaning of ,,all".
Here is an example how it would ve written:
B(3478)4578/S(367)56/M1.
First numbers are amount of cell's neighbours,and second ones amount og cell's neighbour's neighbours.
There is also an extra M on the end. If M is 1,the cell will also count as a neighbour of its neighbours when it is counted will cell survive. If M is 0,it will not be counted.
I wonder if anyone can make script for this algorithm.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

This is known as a rulespace. A rulespace basically is a class of rules.

BTW you could make this into a thread for rulespaces.

Here's my rulespace:
They can be notated as BaaaSbbbPBcccSddd,
Where aaa, bbb, ccc, ddd are Hensel notation strings (e.g. 3-e67c),
And they evolve according to the following rules:

• A state 0 cell:
  • Becomes a state 1 cell if it has state 2 cells in configuration x and x∈aaa
• A state 1 cell:
  • Dies if it has state 2 cells in configuration x and x∉bbb
  • Becomes a state 2 cell if it has state 2 cells in configuration x and x∈ccc
• A state 2 cell:
  • Becomes a state 1 cell if it has state 2 cells in configuration x and x∉ddd

[Hunting]

I mentioned the "rulespace" issue in private mess ages, though.

[yujh]

I have new great idea for the rulespace. Here I will explain it.
Cells can be born if(amount) neighbours have(amount) neighbours and survive if (amout) neighbours have (amount) neighbours. There also can be written A in the meaning of ,,all".
Here is an example how it would ve written:
B(3478)4578/S(367)56/M1.
First numbers are amount of cell's neighbours,and second ones amount og cell's neighbour's neighbours.
There is also an extra M on the end. If M is 1,the cell will also count as a neighbour of its neighbours when it is counted will cell survive. If M is 0,it will not be counted.
I wonder if anyone can make script for this rulespace.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Well, Ddo you know S0?(It means a cell has no neighboring cells will survive.)

[BokaBB]

I know,and it can be explained like ,,to survive,cell needs 0 neighbours with 012345678 neighbours".
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[yujh]

I know,and it can be explained like ,,to survive,cell needs 0 neighbours with 012345678 neighbours".
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Umm...?B/S012345678

[BokaBB]

Without brackets name is not legal. You may leave them bare,but cannot eliminate them.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Hunting]

Without brackets name is not legal. You may leave them bare,but cannot eliminate them.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

He didn't get your namespace.

Wait for me to complete the Golly script that simulates this rulespace. It's on my not too long TODO list.

[yujh]

Without brackets name is not legal. You may leave them bare,but cannot eliminate them.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

He didn't get your namespace.

Wait for me to complete the Golly script that simulates this rulespace. It's on my not too long TODO list.

No idea what it is.
Some one please explain?

[BokaBB]

Nothing special,just his to - do list.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[yujh]

What?
I’m getting More confused now

[BokaBB]

What?
I’m getting More confused now

You are odd man,do you know?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[yujh]

What?
I’m getting More confused now

You are odd man,do you know?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Hunting said:he didn’t get your namespace.

[Hunting]

What?
I’m getting More confused now

You are odd man,do you know?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Hunting said:he didn’t get your namespace.

@yujh This is a semi-totalistic Larger than Life rulespace.

[yujh]

You are odd man,do you know?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Hunting said:he didn’t get your namespace.

@yujh This is a semi-totalistic Larger than Life rulespace.

Ok I understand now.

[EvinZL]

Very complex to implement
idea:
states:

1. Main pattern
2. dead with wrong neighbors for birth and right neighbors for survival
3. dead with right neighbors for birth and wrong neighbors for survival
4. dead right right
5. live wrong wrong
6. live wrong right
7. live right wrong
8. live right right

Two gens for one generation
rules:

• 1=>
  • 5 if wrong neighbor count for survival and birth
  • 6 if wrong neighbor count for survival but right neighbor count for birth
  • same for 7, 8
• 1=>
  • 2 if wrong neighbor count for survival but right neighbor count for birth
  • same for 3, 4
• dead-cell=>1 if right count of cells with right neighbors for birth
• live-cell=>0 if wrong count of cells with right neighbors for survival

[lemon41625]

I have an idea for a rulespace.
Maybe I'll call it regenerating generations.

The rulestring is rgN/lL/bB/sS/rbB1/rsS1 where N is the number of states, B is the birth condition, S is the survival condition, B1 is the second birth condition, S1 is the second survival condition and L is a state number.
For example, rg3/l1/b3/s23/rb4/rs5

Here is how it works:

If cell is dead:

• If B is satisfied:

• • Cell becomes state L

• else:

• • Cell stays dead

If cell is alive:

• If S is satisfied:

• • Cell stays alive

• else:

• • Cell becomes Dying 1

If cell's state is dying n:

• If B1 is satisfied:

• • Cell becomes Dying (n - 1) or Alive

• elif S1 is satisfied:

• • Cell stays at Dying n

• else:

• • Cell becomes Dying (n + 1) or Dead

[BokaBB]

Please post it outside this thread.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[lemon41625]

Was this thread not for new rulespace ideas as mentioned up here:

This is known as a rulespace. A rulespace basically is a class of rules.

BTW you could make this into a thread for rulespaces.

Correct me if I am wrong.
Also what are you going to name your rulespace?

[Hunting]

Was this thread not for new rulespace ideas as mentioned up here:

This is known as a rulespace. A rulespace basically is a class of rules.

BTW you could make this into a thread for rulespaces.

Correct me if I am wrong.
Also what are you going to name your rulespace?

IMO that suggestion is not yet accepted.

[lemon41625]

I have explored some rules in this rulespace with my application here: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic ... 423#p95423
These rules are in the rules folder of the application.

The rule B(3,4,6,11)2,6,7/S(3,6,8,12)2,3,9,12/5 (Generations) uses neighbourhood weights (M is 1):
1 2 1
2 3 2
1 2 1

11c/68 Spaceship

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x = 31, y = 24, rule = GenerationsBokaBB_Rule_2
31.$31.$31.$31.$4.A26.$4.A26.$3.C.A25.$2.CD.A25.$5.C25.$7.CD22.$4.C2.2D22.$8.B22.$5.C2DA22.$6.B2A4.C9.A7.$6.2C5.B9.2A6.$13.DBC6.BCBA5.$22.A2C6.$22.D.DC5.$24.2D5.$23.2D6.$31.$31.$31.$31.1$!

P7 Oscillator

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x = 14, y = 13, rule = GenerationsBokaBB_Rule_2
14.$6.A7.$6.A7.$5.ACA6.$4.B3DB5.$3.AD3.DA4.$.2ACD.C.DC2A2.$3.AD3.DA4.$4.B3DB5.$5.ACA6.$6.A7.$6.A7.$14.1$!

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The rule B(3,4,6,11)2,6,7/S(3,5,8,12)2,3,9,12/5 (Generations) uses neighbourhood weights (M is 1):
1 2 1
2 0 2
1 2 1

Orthogonal 1c/1, c/2, Diagonal 3c/6

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x = 31, y = 19, rule = GenerationsBokaBB_Rule_1
31.$31.$31.$31.$4.A18.DCBA4.$2.ABCD2.D14.DCBA4.$2.2ACBD.C22.$4.A.2D23.$4.A26.$31.$31.$31.$21.DBA7.$21.DB8.$20.CA9.$20.CA9.$31.$31.$31.1$!

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The rule B(3,5,6)2,6,7/S(3,6,8)2,3/M1 (Single State) uses the Range 1 Moore Neighbourhood:

It has a Diagonal 1c/1 and c/2 spaceship

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x = 7, y = 8, rule = BokaBB_Rule_1
7.$7.$7.$3.A3.$.2A.A2.$7.$7.$7.1$!

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x = 7, y = 9, rule = BokaBB_Rule_1
7.$7.$7.$2.A.A2.$4.A2.$2.2A3.$7.$7.$7.1$!

P3, P6, P12

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x = 65, y = 19, rule = BokaBB_Rule_1
65.$65.$65.$65.$65.$65.$65.$6.A.A44.A11.$52.2A11.$7.A21.A35.$29.3A20.A12.$6.A.A18.2A.2A20.A.A10.$28.2A.2A32.$28.3A34.$30.A34.$65.$65.$65.$65.1$!

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Also waiting for Hunting to finish the golly script so that I can simulate the rules in Golly.
Btw, I was hoping that the rulespace could be given a name.

[bubblegum]

Btw, I was hoping that the rulespace could be given a name.

Double-totalistic?

Oh by the way:

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Outer-totalistic (by John von Neumann)
Totalistic
Inner-totalistic (by Saka)
Isotropic non-totalistic (by David Bell)
Non-isotropic
Generations
Reverse Generations (by Martin Grant)
Extended Generations (by DigitalCross/xanman12321)
b-Extended Generations (by Brian Prentice)
BSFKL (by Sphenocorona)
BSFK (by c0b0p0)
3-state range-1 outer-totalistic (by muzik)
Larger than Life (by Kellie Evans)
Higher-range outer-totalistic

Moore
von Neumann
Hexagonal
Margolous
L²/Circular

...why do i do this?

[yujh]

Btw, I was hoping that the rulespace could be given a name.

Double-totalistic?

Oh by the way:

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Outer-totalistic (by John von Neumann)
Totalistic
Inner-totalistic (by Saka)
Isotropic non-totalistic (by David Bell)
Non-isotropic
Generations
Reverse Generations (by Martin Grant)
Extended Generations (by DigitalCross/xanman12321)
b-Extended Generations (by Brian Prentice)
BSFKL (by Sphenocorona)
BSFK (by c0b0p0)
3-state range-1 outer-totalistic (by muzik)
Larger than Life (by Kellie Evans)
Higher-range outer-totalistic

Moore
von Neumann
Hexagonal
Margolous
L²/Circular

...why do i do this?

Hi
https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/view ... =11&t=3808
Bye

[lemon41625]

Double-totalistic?

Can I check that everyone agrees with this name?