cellular automata according to Max Planck

[otismo]

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"discrete energy quanta"

what would that be in CA ?

in CGoL ?

Gs obviously

I am assuming Gs means Gliders - if so, does a Herschel also qualify, or no ?

[mniemiec]

I am assuming Gs means Gliders - if so, does a Herschel also qualify, or no ?

I would think of a Herschel a bit more like a Uranium atom - it emits a few useful energy quanta (gliders/neutrons) but leaves behind a bunch of inconvenient junk.

[otismo]

I am assuming Gs means Gliders - if so, does a Herschel also qualify, or no ?

I would think of a Herschel a bit more like a Uranium atom - it emits a few useful energy quanta (gliders/neutrons) but leaves behind a bunch of inconvenient junk.

@ mniemiec

Great Analogy !

The Nuclear Fission Reaction of Uranium in an Atomic Pile can be controlled with carbon control rods !

Sounds like you are in agreement with Moosey that the Glider is best example of "discrete energy quanta" -

what I was getting at was "What are THE MOST OBSERVED phenomena in CGoL ?"

We probably should start with everything we know/HaveObserved;

whether or not something "qualifies" as "discrete energy quanta",

may be fruitful pursuit if properly dealt with...

again, spaceships, oscillators and stilllifes ( 3 l's hahaha )

are what is left after the "fire" burns out;

exactly what the "fire" is, is rather daunting and has got me stumped -

and I have been thinking about this long before our friend started this thread...

I had hoped to run into some ideas that might give me a better viewpoint;

widely observed/studied items like G and H may be a good place to begin -

how about a Top Ten List just to keep the discussion focused long enough

to get a sense of direction and how to proceed ?

There are "fire-like" signals that travel in wicks/fuses/conduits -

and the H is now one of the most widely studied/observed of these...

Diligent rigorous careful scientific observation

instead of just trying to "get things to work", engineering

may yield some Universal Principles

so we emulate Max Planck...

[KennyFromSouthPark]

I know, and I fully support the topic discussion, unfortunately Hubi is MIA and without another name this time. Hopefully he'll come back.

Glad to see you're missing me!

[Moosey]

I know, and I fully support the topic discussion, unfortunately Hubi is MIA and without another name this time. Hopefully he'll come back.

Glad to see you're missing me!

HE'S BACK EVERYONE

[andrewph33]

There's a clip with something like "NO DON'T DO THIS, DON'T DO THIS, DONT DO IT, NO DONT DO IT, THINK OF YOUR FAMILY, THINK OF YOUR FANS, THINK OF EVERYBODY" overlaid over an MC video of a guy jumping from a high place.

I feel that this video perfectly represents the thread.

[Moosey]

so, now our intelligences will collectively be insulted, no?

[andrewph33]

The jump is the plunge of this thread into insanity.

[andrewph33]

So, err, I'll go to iron, my, dog.

[Hubi1857]

I know, and I fully support the topic discussion, unfortunately Hubi is MIA and without another name this time. Hopefully he'll come back.

Hopefully, he'll come back with a better understanding of the evolution of the glider. And less hatred towards me.

Personally, I don't expect that to happen from someone who got frustrated with dvgrn when dvgrn removed profanity from the thread, considering that profanity is against the rules. Remember, Hubi called us all ignorant, and attacked anyone whose opinions involved (quite rightly, in my own) a distaste for what Hubi did.



Also, whether the topic was actually important is debatable; as rhombic once put it, it's a bunch of "pseudoscientific ramble". Though of course perhaps this was less to do with the nature of the topic as much as the nature of the author.

Actually important is the Corona virus, only. COVID-19 is hardly half as ignorant as most of mathematicians. And as eager as can be to spread its hatred over you, poor shmoosey Moosey!

[Hunting]

I know, and I fully support the topic discussion, unfortunately Hubi is MIA and without another name this time. Hopefully he'll come back.

Hopefully, he'll come back with a better understanding of the evolution of the glider. And less hatred towards me.

Personally, I don't expect that to happen from someone who got frustrated with dvgrn when dvgrn removed profanity from the thread, considering that profanity is against the rules. Remember, Hubi called us all ignorant, and attacked anyone whose opinions involved (quite rightly, in my own) a distaste for what Hubi did.



Also, whether the topic was actually important is debatable; as rhombic once put it, it's a bunch of "pseudoscientific ramble". Though of course perhaps this was less to do with the nature of the topic as much as the nature of the author.

Actually important is the Corona virus, only. COVID-19 is hardly half as ignorant as most of mathematicians. And as eager as can be to spread its hatred over you, poor shmoosey Moosey!

Apparently, Hubi1857 is starting to "insult" people.

Hubi1857, I wish you can keep calm and fix your glider, it's nothing that hard. A glider in Game of Life does not act like that, as you can see by watching the animation in the glider, or putting the glider into Golly.

[Hubi1857]

Hopefully, he'll come back with a better understanding of the evolution of the glider. And less hatred towards me.

Personally, I don't expect that to happen from someone who got frustrated with dvgrn when dvgrn removed profanity from the thread, considering that profanity is against the rules. Remember, Hubi called us all ignorant, and attacked anyone whose opinions involved (quite rightly, in my own) a distaste for what Hubi did.



Also, whether the topic was actually important is debatable; as rhombic once put it, it's a bunch of "pseudoscientific ramble". Though of course perhaps this was less to do with the nature of the topic as much as the nature of the author.

Actually important is the Corona virus, only. COVID-19 is hardly half as ignorant as most of mathematicians. And as eager as can be to spread its hatred over you, poor shmoosey Moosey!

Apparently, Hubi1857 is starting to "insult" people.

Hubi1857, I wish you can keep calm and fix your glider, it's nothing that hard. A glider in Game of Life does not act like that, as you can see by watching the animation in the glider, or putting the glider into Golly.

Apparently I die from your ignorance!

[Hunting]

Actually important is the Corona virus, only. COVID-19 is hardly half as ignorant as most of mathematicians. And as eager as can be to spread its hatred over you, poor shmoosey Moosey!

Apparently, Hubi1857 is starting to "insult" people.

Hubi1857, I wish you can keep calm and fix your glider, it's nothing that hard. A glider in Game of Life does not act like that, as you can see by watching the animation in the glider, or putting the glider into Golly.

Apparently I die from your ignorance!

... I give up.

The word "ignorance" is usually used on someone who don't know how does a glider evolve and refuse to correct his error.

[Moosey]

Actually important is the Corona virus, only. COVID-19 is hardly half as ignorant as most of mathematicians. And as eager as can be to spread its hatred over you, poor shmoosey Moosey!

1) this is name-calling, and probably counts as harassment, which is probably against forum rules. Actually, it's definitely harassment since you appear to be wishing me to get an infectious disease
2) please explain how we are ignorant. If you want anyone to hear that as an actual concern and not a straight-up insult, you better give evidence for how we are ignorant. Or perhaps we aren't most mathematicians? But then again, I've never heard of a single ignorant mathematician.

EDIT:
yup, definitely against the forum rules, in which the first rule is:

Be kind, honest, and respectful.

The majority of your posts are neither kind nor respectful.

[dvgrn]

After that period, any further posts similar your most recent one -- i.e., messages that have absolutely nothing to do with the thread's topic or the forum's purpose, and that serve only to escalate pointless arguments -- will immediately trigger a one-month ban with no further warnings, and then a permanent ban if this kind of silliness is repeated again.

A one-month ban has been activated, following the terms of the warning quoted above, in response to this post.

[Hunting]

After that period, any further posts similar your most recent one -- i.e., messages that have absolutely nothing to do with the thread's topic or the forum's purpose, and that serve only to escalate pointless arguments -- will immediately trigger a one-month ban with no further warnings, and then a permanent ban if this kind of silliness is repeated again.

A one-month ban has been activated, following the terms of the warning quoted above, in response to this post.

I have to yay.

While Hubi1857 enjoy CGoL, he began to insult everybody around him, which is sad.

Actually important is the Corona virus, only. COVID-19 is hardly half as ignorant as most of mathematicians. And as eager as can be to spread its hatred over you, poor shmoosey Moosey!

1) this is name-calling, and probably counts as harassment, which is probably against forum rules. Actually, it's definitely harassment since you appear to be wishing me to get an infectious disease
2) please explain how we are ignorant. If you want anyone to hear that as an actual concern and not a straight-up insult, you better give evidence for how we are ignorant. Or perhaps we aren't most mathematicians? But then again, I've never heard of a single ignorant mathematician.

Aristotle? He thinks the sun moves around the earth, and the world is made from five elements. He's not a mathematician though.

Don't worry, the Coronavirus is self-limiting.

[otismo]

The whole point of Science is that anyone's work can be replicated by anyone else

so by virtue of understanding, we are systematically liquidating our ignorance.....

[Hubi1857]

The whole point of Science is that anyone's work can be replicated by anyone else

so by virtue of understanding, we are systematically liquidating our ignorance.....

All I see is mathematicians who close their eyes and prefer to ignore everything they don't understand.

Prisoners of the brains between their ears dreamimg their lifetime away...

[Moosey]

All I see is mathematicians who close their eyes and prefer to ignore everything they don't understand.

Alas, if only you recognized the hypocrisy there. You close your eyes and prefer to ignore us because we are talking about things you don't want to spend time trying to understand.

Prisoners of the brains between their ears dreamimg their lifetime away...

for god's sake, don't insult the entire community
It's almost like a bunch of people have complained about this a hundred times before, and yet you, a prisoner of your own ego, ignore it all.

[bubblegum]

The whole point of Science is that anyone's work can be replicated by anyone else

so by virtue of understanding, we are systematically liquidating our ignorance.....

All I see is mathematicians who close their eyes and prefer to ignore everything they don't understand.

Prisoners of the brains between their ears dreamimg their lifetime away...

What the Rule 2? You can't see any mathematicians closing their eyes and ignoring everything they don't understand if you're closing your eyes and ignoring everything you don't understand. It looks like you're living up to the Ancient Egyptian standards - "the brain only serves to separate the ears".

(also i like how your signature says you're not even human)

[GUYTU6J]

Fact:
The COVID-19 pandemic is threatening, but the origin of the virus is still unkown and many govs are not doing well enough in terms of containing the virus. Also, 5G technology does not spread the virus, and vaccination is good for people.
My opinion:
Greta Thunberg and Extinction Rebellion has helped very little in the field of environmental protection.

[otismo]

The whole point of Science is that anyone's work can be replicated by anyone else

so by virtue of understanding, we are systematically liquidating our ignorance.....

All I see is mathematicians who close their eyes and prefer to ignore everything they don't understand.

Prisoners of the brains between their ears dreamimg their lifetime away...

perhaps it is a form of love; fixation obsession

I want to tread lightly here - just an attempt at

analyzing kinds of behaviors - no insult/attack

intended; this community has the skills needed

to delve into cellular automata according to

Max Planck; so how should we proceed ?

[otismo]

Fact:
The COVID-19 pandemic is threatening, but the origin of the virus is still unkown and many govs are not doing well enough in terms of containing the virus. Also, 5G technology does not spread the virus, and vaccination is good for people.
My opinion:
Greta Thunberg and Extinction Rebellion has helped very little in the field of environmental protection.

I believe CGoL is the key to understanding this :

a Micro-Managed, Biologically Balanced, Multi-System EcoStructure

with an embedded command-and-control regime

virus code is part of IT your DNA is part of IT bacteria/fungus are part of IT

IT is addressing a systemic imbalance; so far targeting impaired immune systems -

I do not believe that there are too many humans - only that their behavior is un-balancing

the System; and so the System reacts - suggesting - changes in human behavior - so we react to IT

the Glider most closely resembles a Virus - and is he not already our favorite pet computer virus already ?

[Hubi1857]

All I see is mathematicians who close their eyes and prefer to ignore everything they don't understand.

Alas, if only you recognized the hypocrisy there. You close your eyes and prefer to ignore us because we are talking about things you don't want to spend time trying to understand.

Prisoners of the brains between their ears dreamimg their lifetime away...

for god's sake, don't insult the entire community
It's almost like a bunch of people have complained about this a hundred times before, and yet you, a prisoner of your own ego, ignore it all.

Amen

[KennyFromSouthPark]

(also i like how your signature says you're not even human)

As human as homo sapiens sapiens and eager to survive!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7akuOFp-ET8