Hunting wrote: February 24th, 2020, 9:37 amDoes that means I have to do all the works over again?
Like, research on Remini-like recipes to try to build a universal constructor arm? At least at the moment, it's probably at least a couple of orders of magnitude easier to come up with a universal construction toolkit based on p24 technology than p22 technology.
That's especially true if a p48 splitter turns out to be buildable. It can certainly be done at p72 somehow, but it seems like the two-channel Remini trick is more likely to work reasonably efficiently, or even work at all, at p48.
I'm still way behind the times, though, and probably don't know what I'm talking about half the time. E.g., I didn't notice that someone had already run a 4G LeapLife search with apgsearch. It'd be good to have a good big centralized collection of clean syntheses from that search. It seems hard to find the best known recipe for a given object at the moment. There's no known 3G LWSS, right? And no known valid 4G HWSS synth yet?
Ultimately constructibility in this rule ought to get a nice boost from the fact that the small knightships and all the *WSSes will have cheap glider constructions. That's a lot of angles to approach a construction site from.
Anyone have a p48 gun using fewer than six p24s? Seems like there ought to be one, but I seem to need three p24 guns to make p48:
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x = 57, y = 53, rule = B2n3/S23-q
41b3o$42bo$40bo4bo$40bo$41bo5bo$48bo$43bo4bo$46bo$24bo2bo5bo11b3o$23b
3o8bo$7bo14b4o7b2o$6b3o23bo$7b3o17b4o$6bo20b3o$5b2o4bo4bobo6bo2bo13bo$
18bo21b2o$7bo4b2o3b2o22b2o$12bo34b2o$9b3o42bo$10b3o32b2ob2o5b2o$11bo
12bo11bo9bo7b2o$22bobo9b2o7bo9bo$23b2o10b2o4b2o7bo$40b2o5b2ob2o$42bo$
48b2o$30bo$6b2o20b2o$7bo4bobo14b2o$4b4ob2o3bo$3bobo7b2o4b2o$18bobo$2o
7bobo8bo$o3b2ob4o$obo4bo$7b2o$13b2o$12bobo$14bo19bo$35bo$33b3o4$9bo$8b
3o$7bo3bo$7bob4o5b2o$8b7o$3b2o5b4obo$11bo3bo30bo$12b3o32bo$13bo31b3o!
Unfortunately p48 doesn't
quite support knightship constructions with the current 3G recipe:
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#C following glider interferes at the last minute -- ouch.
#C Need a p52+ gun for this to work.
x = 130, y = 131, rule = B2n3/S23-q
88bo$88bo$33b2o$30b6o$29b3o2b2o49b2o$21bo6b2obo5bo46bo2bo$20b3o10bo4bo
44b2ob2o$19bo3bo6bobo5bobo43bob3o18bo$11b2o5b4obo8bo4bo7bo5bo2bo30b5o
16b2o$16b7o10bo5bob2obo8b3o30b3obo15bobo$15bob4o5b2o7b2o2b3o2b2o7b4o
30b2ob2o13bo$15bo3bo15b6o5bo11bo28bo2bo$16b3o17b2o10b4o7b2o27b2o13bo$
17bo31b3o8bo42b2o$50bo2bo5bo41bo5bo$38bo47bo14bobo3bobo10b2o$38bobo44b
obo15bo5bo8bo3bo$38b2o44bo2bo18b2o10b2o$87bo19bo10bo5bo$22bo61bo$20bob
o63bo18bo14bo5bo$21b2o9bo49bo10bo8bobo5bobo12b2o$15b2o14bo2bo46bo3bo5b
obo9b2o5b2o10bo3bo$8bobo4bo14b2obo47b2o2bo6b2o9bo7bo11b2o$8bo3b2ob4o
10bobo47bobo$8b2o7bobo9b2o48b3o3b3o$30bo54bobo$11bobo7b2o58bo2b2o13bo$
12b4ob2o3bo58bo3bo11bobo26b2o$15bo4bobo17bo43bo13b2o5b3o17b2obo$14b2o
25bo38bo24bo3bo15bo$39b3o40bo23b3o14b4o2bo$27b2o51b3o24bo15b4o$28b2o
79bo13b2o$27bo93bo4bo$119bobo5bobo$122bo4bo$115bo8b2o$21b2o91b2o6b4o$
22b2o77bo12bobo2bo2b4o$21bo77b2o22bo$9b3o40bo47b2o18bob2o$o7bo3bo40bo
67b2o$o8bo2bo8bo3bo25b3o67b2o$bo3b2obob2o3bo3bo101b2o$4bo2bo8b3o6b2o
93bo$4bo3bo7b4ob2obo$5b3o11b4o4b3o$21b3o3b3o88b2o$21b3o4b4o85bo2bo$26b
ob2ob2o84bo2bo$24b2o6bo56bo27bobo$31bo55b2o29bobobo$25bo3bo34bo23b2o
31bobo$65bo54bo2bo$63b3o54bo2bo$121b2o3$120bo$118b2o3$77bo$75b2o$71b2o
3b2o$70bobo$72bo3$29b2o$29bobo$28bo2$27bo$26b2o$25b3o$26b2o3bo27b2o$
58bobo$25bo3b2o29bo$29b3o$29b2o$29bo2$28bo$25bobo$26b2o2$26bo$26b2o19b
2o$24bo2b2o4bo12bobo$26b3o5bo13bo$23b2o3bo3b3o$22bo2bo2b2o$27b3o$20b2o
5b2o$19b3o17bo$19b2o2bo2bo13bo$20bo3b2o12bo28b2o$20b3o16b3o24b2obo$20b
2o2bo15bob2o22bo$21b2o18b2o7bo13b4o2bo$22bo26b2o13b4o$27bo21bobo12b2o$
27bo34bo4bo$60bobo5bobo$63bo4bo$24b2o30bo8b2o$23bo2bo9b3o5b3o8b2o6b4o$
22b2ob2o11bo5bo10bobo2bo2b4o$23bob3o9bo8bo17bo$24b5o13bo18bob2o$25b3ob
o11bo3bo16b2o$26b2ob2o10b2o2bo16b2o$26bo2bo9bobo20b2o$27b2o10b3o3b3o
13bo$45bobo$41bo2b2o$25bo15bo3bo13b2o$25bo18bo13bo2bo$40bo17bo2bo$42bo
15bobo$40b3o16bobobo$62bobo$61bo2bo$61bo2bo$62b2o3$61bo$59b2o!
So maybe p72 is the right intermittent-stream period for universal constructor research, at least for now. It has small guns, including knightship guns, and knightships imply trivial signal splitters, I think -- didn't I see a way to suppress a knightship with a glider without damaging the glider?
EDIT: I'm pretty sure I did see that, but I'm not finding it again right now... but a reflection reaction works just as well to make a signal duplicator:
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x = 269, y = 195, rule = B2n3/S23-q
268bo$266b2o$267b2o5$27b2o$29bo3$30b2o$29bo2bo$29bo2bo$30bobo$13b2o12b
obobo$12b2o2b2o8bobo$17bo8bo2bo$10bo3bo2bo8bo2bo$8b2o5b2o10b2o$7bo2bo
3bo94bo$7bo15bo82bob2o$7b2o2b2o11b2o3bo75b3o3bo$10b2o11b2o5b2o74b2o17b
2o$107bo5bo8b6o$113b2o6b3o2b2o$109bo3b3o4b2obo5bo$29bo81b2obo10bo4bo$
30b2o79bo10bobo5bobo$24bo4b2o93bo4bo$24b2o99bo5bob2o$23bobo88bo12b2o2b
3o$114bobo10b6o$114b2o12b2o2$5bo12bo$3b2obo11b2o212bo$3o4bo9bobo88bo
121b2o$o2bobo102bobo2b3o115b2o$o8b2o97b2o3bo$4bo3bo12b2o91bo$2b2o8bo6b
o3bo$7bobo2bo6b2o$5bo4b3o6bo5bo$6bob2o109b3o$7bo13bo5bo19bo71bo12b2o$
26b2o20b2o70bo12bo4bobo$23bo3bo19b2o81b4ob2o3bo$24b2o103bobo7b2o$116b
3o$116b3ob2o4b2o7bobo$115bobobob2o3bo3b2ob4o$113bo5bobo4bobo4bo$112b3o
3b3o12b2o$111bobo5bo$90bo19b2obobobo$90bobo18b2ob3o$90b2o22b3o6$65bo$
66b2o$65b2o3$72bo$71b2o$71bo$71bo$72b2o122bo$71bob2o119b2o$71bob2o120b
2o$71bobo$72bo9$79b2o$80bo$55bo21bo$55b2o22bo$54bobo20b3o$178bo$176b2o
$177b2o11$88b2o$21b3o65bo$20bo3bo7bo4bo48bo$20bo2bo8bo4b2o49bo$17bo3b
2obob2o3bo4bobo47b3o$16bo8bo2bo$16bo7bo3bo25b3o$25b3o27bo$31bo7b2o11bo
4bo$31b2o5b2o17bo$30bobo7bo9bo5bo$49bo$49bo4bo$51bo$45b2o3b3o$44b2o$
25b3o18bo$25bo2bo$28bo68b2o$24bo2bobo68bo$24b2o69bo$25bo5bo18b3o44bo$
31b2o19bo42b3o$27bobo2bo15bo3bo$28bo19bo2bobo$28bo2bo17bo3bo$29b3o14bo
4bo2bo$45bo7bo$44bo2bo4bo$45bo3bo$45bobo2bo$46bo3bo$46bo101b3o$46b3o
98bo2bo$147bo$146bobo2bo$106b2o42b2o$107bo36bo5bo$104bo38b2o$106bo36bo
2bobo16b3o$104b3o40bo18bo$144bo2bo16bo4bo$144b3o17bo$165bo5bo$172bo$
167bo4bo$170bo$169b3o$149bobo$150b2o$150bo$144b3o$135bo7bo3bo$135bo8bo
2bo18bo$115b2o19bo3b2obob2o3bo4bobo6b2o$116bo22bo2bo8bo4b2o7b2o$113bo
25bo3bo7bo4bo14b2o$115bo24b3o35bo$113b3o53b2ob2o5b2o$160bo9bo7b2o$158b
2o7bo9bo$159b2o4b2o7bo$164b2o5b2ob2o$166bo$172b2o8$124b2o$125bo$122bo$
124bo$122b3o$142bo$140b2o$141b2o6$136bo$137bo$135b3o2$140bo$139bobo$
140b2o!
If more copies are needed, there's a blocked-off inverted output that could be re-inverted with another p72 gun.
Maybe it was just a collision that produces a glider in the same direction -- also usable, but maybe not quite as nice as a proper Heisenburp signal deletion:
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x = 17, y = 13, rule = B2n3/S23-q
2$11bobo$11bobo$13bo$12bo$10bobo$11b2o$3bobo$4b2o$4bo!
There are certainly clean deletions of gliders by knightships, though, so an inverted knightship data stream could filter an arbitrary number of p72 gun streams to make as many duplicates of the data as might be needed.
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x = 24, y = 21, rule = B2n3/S23-q
7$6bo$4bobo$5b2o2$18b2o$19bo$16bo$18bo$16b3o!
