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Hubi1857 wrote:WOW! The David Hilbert aka p23 is just as boring as it might have already been when [rambles]
These words [full version: here] shall forever afterwards be world-renowned as indicative of incredibly poor taste.
Clearly the author had no recognition of the fact that the first p23 and first new oscillator period in however-many-years is SUPER EXCITING.
κ is measurable iff there is a nontrivial elementary embedding j:V→M (M transitive) with critical point κ
Moosey wrote: January 7th, 2020, 6:22 pm
Clearly the author had no recognition of the fact that the first p23 and first new oscillator period in however-many-years is SUPER EXCITING.
Aside from being a new period, my first thought was how is the period not a multiple of two? Now I see the two halves are out of phase. Nice use of a hassler! I found it helpful to remove the second oscillator and manually shift the beehive back to see what's going on. I wonder if there is a stable catalyst that could somehow push it back and shrink the oscillator (or some other catalyst that could replace the beehive).
I have no idea what Hubi1857's deal is. He is obviously not very interested in CGOL or any cellular automata results as far as I can tell. The quotes are annoying and irrelevant.
pcallahan wrote: January 7th, 2020, 7:05 pm
I have no idea what Hubi1857's deal is. He is obviously not very interested in CGOL or any cellular automata results as far as I can tell. The quotes are annoying and irrelevant.
That's not so annoying as someone who is interested in CGoL but use it in a so-called "artistic" way, as far as I see.
GUYTU6J wrote: January 7th, 2020, 8:02 pm
That's not so annoying as someone who is interested in CGoL but use it in a so-called "artistic" way, as far as I see.
yeah, I kinda feel a little... uncomfortable with otismo
κ is measurable iff there is a nontrivial elementary embedding j:V→M (M transitive) with critical point κ
pcallahan wrote: January 7th, 2020, 7:05 pm
I have no idea what Hubi1857's deal is. He is obviously not very interested in CGOL or any cellular automata results as far as I can tell. The quotes are annoying and irrelevant.
Thanx!
I hereby nominate Moosey for the very first "W.C.Fields medal" for the most annoying and irrelevant post of the year. See -> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._C._Fields
And to get an idea what my "deal" might be you'd better pay a visit to the Sandbox and have a look at my first thread entitled "cellular automata according to Max Planck"! viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4248 !
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Michael Ernst Hubi homo homunculus Hubertz
artist - composer - phantastrophysicist @ExtinctionRebellion
Lou Reed about time, Turing tapes and data streams:
"First thing you learn is that you always got to wait"
Hubi1857 wrote: January 7th, 2020, 8:22 pm
And to get an idea what my "deal" might be you'd better pay a visit to the Sandbox and have a look at my first thread entitled "cellular automata according to Max Planck".
Yes, I saw it. You may have missed the point that a p23 oscillator is a new result of greater interest to most members of this forum than your vague proclamations about CA and physics.
pcallahan wrote: January 7th, 2020, 9:17 pm
Yes, I saw it. You may have missed the point that a p23 oscillator is a new result of greater interest to most members of this forum than your vague proclamations about CA and physics.
Hey, the very first feedback I received so far from this splendid forum of CGOL fans was Moosey's reply. And he missed my point, completely. But his reply encouraged me to continue with the thread.
Try again, if you dare, to make sense of the "vague proclamations" of a theoretical and mathematical physicist like me who completely depends on mathematics but is forced to struggle all the time against the ignorance of most of mathematicians.
Hubi1857 wrote: January 8th, 2020, 7:03 am
Hey, the very first feedback I received so far from this splendid forum of CGOL fans was Moosey's reply. And he missed my point, completely. But his reply encouraged me to continue with the thread.
What was your point, then? To me it seemed like it was saying that the p23 was absolutely useless. I think you missed the point, completely.
A p23 oscillator is exciting because there were previously no other p23s. It's wonderfully new and nontrivial.
Hubi1857 wrote: January 8th, 2020, 7:03 am
a theoretical and mathematical physicist like me who completely depends on mathematics but is forced to struggle all the time against the ignorance of most of mathematicians.
This quote is exactly what bothers me about Hubi1857. They carry about an air of "I'm smarter than you guys", and it really rubs some of us the wrong way. Not only because it's assuming things about us, but because it really irritates me to see him just ask Martin Grant, who has always struck me as a clever person, a did-you-know about something that was posted several months ago. It's hard to see a reason behind that other than trying to stick "I'm smarter than you" in our faces. I'm sure you know more about theoretical physics than us, but if you frame that as ignorance, it completely misses the fact that we know more than you do about other subjects.
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κ is measurable iff there is a nontrivial elementary embedding j:V→M (M transitive) with critical point κ
Hubi1857 wrote: January 8th, 2020, 1:35 pm
Just rest assured that I've learned enough of mathematics to be able to enjoy it!
To be blunt, the question is not whether you enjoy mathematics, but whether others enjoy your musings (and I won't speak for anyone else, but they do little for me). I appreciate that you show the courtesy of putting them in sandbox, just as I put metacomments like this one in sandbox.
The kinds of postings that are most interesting in this forum are those that either solve a specific problem of interest to the community (like realizing a previous unrealized oscillator period!) or very rarely introducing an idea that sparks new interest.
I cannot say I have done much of either in the past 20 years (before which point, I did produce some patterns recorded here) but I understand the audience. Nobody really cares what I enjoy and I don't expect them too. You have to listen, not just talk.
Man in Black: You're that smart?
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Hubi1857 wrote: January 15th, 2020, 2:45 pm
Here another famous quote, qouted without the intention to spit onto anyone of the intelligent designers of this forum:
don't worry too much about that-- if you had read the responses to the thread about the intelligent design paper, you would have understood that the general consensus on this forum is that intelligent design is not valid, and that we were strongly repelled by the idea of CGoL being cited in an ID paper.
κ is measurable iff there is a nontrivial elementary embedding j:V→M (M transitive) with critical point κ
We must, however, acknowledge, as it seems to me, that man with all his noble qualities... still bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his lowly origin.
Pronounced "duì niú tán qín", a famous Chinese idiom that roughly translates to "mooing at a piano player" (at least this is how my bovine friends explained it to me).
It is a useful thing to keep in mind when tempted to reply to certain postings here and elsewhere on the internet.
Pronounced "duì niú tán qín", a famous Chinese idiom that roughly translates to "mooing at a piano player" (at least this is how my bovine friends explained it to me).
Chinese, I see.
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Michael Ernst Hubi homo homunculus Hubertz
artist - composer - phantastrophysicist @ExtinctionRebellion
Lou Reed about time, Turing tapes and data streams:
"First thing you learn is that you always got to wait"
Pronounced "duì niú tán qín", a famous Chinese idiom that roughly translates to "mooing at a piano player" (at least this is how my bovine friends explained it to me).
In german it reads usually
"Throwing pearls before swine"
Similar the to the corean(?)
"Feeding the dog with caviar"
or the vietnamese(??)
"Serving fish with bycicles"
Michael Ernst Hubi homo homunculus Hubertz
artist - composer - phantastrophysicist @ExtinctionRebellion
Lou Reed about time, Turing tapes and data streams:
"First thing you learn is that you always got to wait"
Norville: You know, for kids! It has economy, simplicity, low production cost, potential for mass appeal, and all that spells out great profitability. I had the boys down at R&D throw together this little prototype so our discussion here can have some focus and to give you gentlemen of the board a first hand look at how exciting this gizmo is.
Pronounced "duì niú tán qín", a famous Chinese idiom that roughly translates to "mooing at a piano player" (at least this is how my bovine friends explained it to me).
To be more accurate, it means "playing an instrument for a cow to hear" -- obviously a cow will never visibly appreciate your music, so your efforts are fruitless.
