Catagolue Oddities

[77topaz]

In this xp232 subcensus, every oscillator after the first is either simply a different generation of the same oscillator, or not a p232 oscillator at all: http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2e ... 8/C1/xp232

[77topaz]

Every single oscillator reported in the b3aiy4ew5ace6c7c8s2-ai3-jkq4ceirt5ce6-ak7c8/C1 census is fake: the supposed xp52s are wickstretchers and the supposed xp68 is a spacefiller.

[cordership3]

A 28P7.2 variant was reported recently (just yesterday), but the linked sample soup doesn't actually produce anything:

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x = 31, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bobbbbbobooboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obbooobbobooboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obobboobbooboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
booobbbbbooobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
ooobbooobooboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobbboooooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boobobbobobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbboboobbobbboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbboobbobooooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobbbbboooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobobbbobobboooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
ooooobbobbbboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oboobboboobooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbooooooboooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boboooooooooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boooboobobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobboboobooob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooooooooobob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooooboooooobbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooboobobboobo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboobbbbobbooooo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooobbobobbboboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooobbbbboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooooobobboobbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboobbbobboobobbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbobobboboob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooooobbboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobooboobooobbooo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbooobbbbbooob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooboobboobbobo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooboobobbooobbo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobooboobobbbbbob!

[apg]

A 28P7.2 variant was reported recently (just yesterday), but the linked sample soup doesn't actually produce anything:

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x = 31, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bobbbbbobooboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obbooobbobooboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obobboobbooboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
booobbbbbooobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
ooobbooobooboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobbboooooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boobobbobobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbboboobbobbboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbboobbobooooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobbbbboooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobobbbobobboooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
ooooobbobbbboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oboobboboobooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbooooooboooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boboooooooooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boooboobobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobboboobooob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooooooooobob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooooboooooobbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooboobobboobo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboobbbbobbooooo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooobbobobbboboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooobbbbboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooooobobboobbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboobbbobboobobbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbobobboboob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooooobbboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobooboobooobbooo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbooobbbbbooob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooboobboobbobo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooboobobbooobbo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobooboobobbbbbob!

It does, if you shift the lower-right soup so that it's 32x31 instead of 31x32:

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x = 32, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
bo5bob2ob2obo$o2b3o2bob2ob2o$obo2b2o2b2ob2o$b3o5b3o2bo$3o2b3ob2ob2obo$
2o3b6obo$b2obo2bobo2bo$4bob2o2bo3b2o$3b2o2bob5o$2o5b4obo$2obo3bobo2b4o
$5o2bo4b2obo$ob2o2bob2ob3o$3b6ob4o$bob10obo$b3ob2obo2bo8bo2bob2ob3o$
17bob10obo$18b4ob6o$18b3ob2obo2b2obo$16bob2o4bo2b5o$16b4o2bobo3bob2o$
19bob4o5b2o$18b5obo2b2o$16b2o3bo2b2obo$19bo2bobo2bob2o$19bob6o3b2o$16b
ob2ob2ob3o2b3o$17bo2b3o5b3o$18b2ob2o2b2o2bobo$17b2ob2obo2b3o2bo$16bob
2ob2obo5bo!

[Ian07]

Heavpoot just accidentally submitted a couple of broken hauls to the Move/Morley census.

https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b368 ... d2a0515916
https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b368 ... b527d8fcdc

Each one consists of about 156 million dots and a couple of large still lifes, none of which work when you actually click on them.

[Sarp]

https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/ ... et_message

Also both meth and methuselah prefixes exist in the stats page
Edit: It's fixed

[muzik]

Catagolue seems to attempt to run bsfkl rules using lifeviewer, which doesn't currently support such rules:

http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp8 ... 4k23l01234

This is not the case with LtL.

[Apple Bottom]

Catagolue seems to attempt to run bsfkl rules using lifeviewer, which doesn't currently support such rules:

http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp8 ... 4k23l01234

This is not the case with LtL.

Can we please not clutter the forum with such pointless trivialities? I'm sure LifeViewer will gain BSFKL support in due time, and when it does and when Catagolue updates its version, this "oddity" (which is really anything but) will disappear.

You really should ask yourself, before posting, whether doing so is worth alerting every single last person who subscribed to a thread, presumably on the assumption that new posts would indicate interesting, insightful, informative or otherwise worthwhile content.

Thank you.

EDIT: I should add that I wouldn't be nearly as annoyed by this if it were an isolated occurence, but it's actually a recurring pattern, no pun intended. Please see the proverb quoted in my sig, and perhaps keep it in mind when posting in the future.

[dani]

Can we please not clutter the forum with such pointless trivialities? I'm sure LifeViewer will gain BSFKL support in due time, and when it does and when Catagolue updates its version, this "oddity" (which is really anything but) will disappear.

Okay, why is this response so hostile? Muzik posted something legitimately odd, that the colour scheme is off, and that the rule doesn't get run correctly, and the rules aren't being run correctly. Yeah, sure, it's not that much of an oddity, but why is it worth posting an entire paragraph about?

[dani]

Since I created this thread, I'll add a rule:

No troll symmetries.

[wwei23]

Someone hacked Catagolue and changed the logo? Who put a Santa hat there?

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[Freywa]

Someone hacked Catagolue and changed the logo? Who put a Santa hat there?

Goucher did.

[gameoflifemaniac]

Someone hacked Catagolue and changed the logo? Who put a Santa hat there?

Goucher did.

And only now I noticed that the logo is written in Comic Sans?

[Saka]

Just to clarify, adam/apg/calcyman has put a christmas theme on Catagolue. Changes include:
☆Different logo (Eater 2 with santa hat)
☆New colors for rule contribution charts (red, green, yellow)
There's also a new link to Fano on every rule's page.

[muzik]

There's also a new link to Fano on every rule's page.

...even if said rule isn't outer totalistic and doesn't have a page.

[muzik]

Currently multistate hexagonal rules don't use Golly-compatible rulestrings for soups.

https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/ ... g3b25s345h

[apg]

There's also a new link to Fano on every rule's page.

...even if said rule isn't outer totalistic and doesn't have a page.

Rectified. Also, an amusing oddity: if you go to catagolue.appspot.com (no santa hat), it redirects to catagolue.appspot.com/home (with santa hat).

[Saka]

On the page for b3s01367/D2_+1 the tabulation has objects in a strange order: Oscillator Spaceship Stillife

EDIT:
Did you change it? It appears that it applies to all pages, not just that one. I swear it used to be oscillator-sl-spaceship or sl-osc-ship

[mniemiec]

On the page for b3s01367/D2_+1 the tabulation has objects in a strange order: Oscillator Spaceship Stillife

EDIT:
Did you change it? It appears that it applies to all pages, not just that one. I swear it used to be oscillator-sl-spaceship or sl-osc-ship

I think that now it's ruthlessly alphabetic, in order of category names.
EDIT: never mind. It isn't.

[dani]

I think that now it's ruthlessly alphabetic, in order of category names.

No, the order is zz, PATHOLOGICAL, yl, xp, xq, xs

[muzik]

Why is this pattern shifted to the left?

https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 204/b2s34h

[apg]

Why is this pattern shifted to the left?

https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 204/b2s34h

Probably because the bounding box [of a hexagonal pattern] is actually a bounding rhombus, and LifeViewer chooses its initial viewport based on that.

[rowett]

Probably because the bounding box [of a hexagonal pattern] is actually a bounding rhombus, and LifeViewer chooses its initial viewport based on that.

Exactly right. And one day I may improve it.

[muzik]

Some disgusting troll symmetries: http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2- ... 3ciry4krz/

[apg]

Some disgusting troll symmetries: http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2- ... 3ciry4krz/

Fixed -- thanks!