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[Majestas32]

summoning lifeisawesome and gameoflifemaniac

[gameoflifemaniac]

summoning lifeisawesome and gameoflifemaniac

For example, 'bo' (or 'ponieważ') means 'because'.

[Macbi]

'bo' (or 'ponieważ')

Eh? Are they the same word?

[Majestas32]

I think bo means as or since and ponieważ means because so there's a subtle difference like in English between those two words

[gameoflifemaniac]

I think bo means as or since and ponieważ means because so there's a subtle difference like in English between those two words

Rzeczywiście! Get it?

[Majestas32]

Tak, oczywiście

[dani]

hi gmc_nxtman

[KittyTac]

I frequent Bay12.

[Redstoneboi]

why doesn't the alphabet start with aeioubcd

[Majestas32]

It should start with cekainyqjrtwz what are you talking about

[apg]

It should start with cekainjqrytwz what are you talking about

Wait, have I been spelling it wrong all this time? I've been using ceaiknjqrytwz as the canonical order: https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/lifelib/bl ... ist.py#L10

Phew, Golly agrees with me as well:
https://sourceforge.net/p/golly/code/ci ... es.cpp#l28

[Majestas32]

According to neighbors2 it's cekainyqjrtwz

[77topaz]

The LifeWiki also uses the cekain order.

[dani]

I usually use aceijknqrtwyz

[Saka]

I usually use aceijknqrtwyz

The LifeWiki also uses the cekain order.

Woah those are some weird keyboard layouts

[apg]

The LifeWiki also uses the cekain order.

Ooh, so we now have two rival competing factions: the Golly/lifelib 'ceaikn' clan and the LifeWiki/neighbors2 'cekain' clan. This causes slightly less of a problem than the 'v' did, but means that certain rules are canonised differently by different conventions. Fortunately, because Golly and lifelib agree, Catagolue has a consistent convention.

[rowett]

The LifeWiki also uses the cekain order.

Ooh, so we now have two rival competing factions: the Golly/lifelib 'ceaikn' clan and the LifeWiki/neighbors2 'cekain' clan. This causes slightly less of a problem than the 'v' did, but means that certain rules are canonised differently by different conventions. Fortunately, because Golly and lifelib agree, Catagolue has a consistent convention.

No, we don't. Neither order is correct. The canonical order is alphabetical and defined in the Golly documentation under the diagram:

Golly uses the following steps to convert a given non-totalistic rule into its canonical version:

• An underscore can be used instead of a slash, but the canonical version always uses a slash.
• The lowercase letters are listed in alphabetical order. For example, B2nic/S will become B2cin/S.
• A given rule is converted to its shortest equivalent version. For example, B2ceikn/S will become B2-a/S. If equivalent rules have the same length then the version without the minus sign is preferred. For example, B4-qjrtwz/S will become B4aceikny/S.
• It's possible for a non-totalistic rule to be converted to a totalistic rule. If you supply all the letters for a specific neighbor count then the canonical version removes the letters. For example, B2aceikn3/S will become B23/S. (Note that B2-3/S is equivalent to B2aceikn3/S so will also become B23/S.)
• If you supply a minus sign and all the letters for a specific neighbor count then the letters and the neighbor count are removed. For example, B2-aceikn3/S will become B3/S.

LifeViewer also agrees with Golly - for obvious reasons.

[apg]

No, we don't. Neither order is correct. The canonical order is alphabetical and defined in the Golly documentation under the diagram:

Golly uses the following steps to convert a given non-totalistic rule into its canonical version:

• An underscore can be used instead of a slash, but the canonical version always uses a slash.
• The lowercase letters are listed in alphabetical order. For example, B2nic/S will become B2cin/S.
• A given rule is converted to its shortest equivalent version. For example, B2ceikn/S will become B2-a/S. If equivalent rules have the same length then the version without the minus sign is preferred. For example, B4-qjrtwz/S will become B4aceikny/S.
• It's possible for a non-totalistic rule to be converted to a totalistic rule. If you supply all the letters for a specific neighbor count then the canonical version removes the letters. For example, B2aceikn3/S will become B23/S. (Note that B2-3/S is equivalent to B2aceikn3/S so will also become B23/S.)
• If you supply a minus sign and all the letters for a specific neighbor count then the letters and the neighbor count are removed. For example, B2-aceikn3/S will become B3/S.

LifeViewer also agrees with Golly - for obvious reasons.

Thank goodness! I'd forgotten that my own Python implementation also orders them alphabetically.

[dani]

Woah, my comment was sarcastic, haha. Although that is very interesting...

[77topaz]

Yeah, I wasn't suggesting that rulestrings use the cekain order - they've always been alphabetical. The graphical illustrations, however, make more sense with cekain or ceaikn because of the groupings.

[Majestas32]

Or just use my method which numbers them all bSed on a binary number formes by a spiral around the saquare which is a system that can be infinitely extended to other neighborhoods

[77topaz]

"Your" system? You're just describing MAP strings.

[wwei23]

I had a really weird dream where I was talking to Danny in person and then this happened:

Can you unban me from Conwaylife Lounge?

Sure!

[Majestas32]

"Your" system? You're just describing MAP strings.

Except it's isotropic and it's the transitions that are numbered, not the rules themselves.

[cordership3]

"Your" system? You're just describing MAP strings.

*uses MAP string as seed for random map*