Wow! Two errors in one attribution (wrong person, and dyslexic date!). Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
chris_c wrote:Making the junk from the other side allows the block and hive to be created together, saving one glider: ...
Nice. I have several 3-glider syntheses of the block+beehive, but all would have interfered with the junk as originally formed. (One thing my archives are sorely lacking is a library of syntheses of simple pieces of irregular unstable junk. Perhaps that's a project someone might want to undertake?)
Goldtiger997 wrote:Also, here are 2 incomplete syntheses of 2 very large asymmetric still-lifes that I found on catalogue with only 1 or 2 occurrences.
I'm calling it the "inflected omnibus", analogous to the inflected 30-great-sym. It forms very early (gen 13), but there still may be a synthesis in there.
The core reaction is tub + (R + block, or P + boat) + pre-TL + 9-cell piece of junk, so I bet there's a synthesis, although it may not improve anything.
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I'm calling it the "inflected omnibus", analogous to the inflected 30-great-sym. It forms very early (gen 13), but there still may be a synthesis in there.
The core reaction is tub + (R + block, or P + boat) + pre-TL + 9-cell piece of junk, so I bet there's a synthesis, although it may not improve anything.
The thing is, even if it doesn't, the tub acts as a rock, meaning that this isn't just a synthesis, it's a component.
And a more immediate predecessor can be modified, producing a related one that's far more promising:
x = 42, y = 42, rule = Life
20b2o$20b2o2$36bo$35bobo$35bo2bo$18b2o16b2o$19bo$19bo$18bo9$6bo2bo$6b
3o$2o38b2o$2o38b2o$33b3o$32bo2bo9$23bo$22bo$22bo$4b2o16b2o$3bo2bo$4bob
o$5bo2$20b2o$20b2o!
Interestingly the loaves eat glider pairs travelling orthogonally to the streams fired; one pair of gliders hitting the loaf adds a pair of ships (EDIT: d'oh, of course they're actually boats; thanks dvgrn!), the next pair of gliders (156 generations later) destroys these again. As a result the gun is period 312 overall even though it fires two pairs of gliders every 156 generations.
Removing the loaves results in an 8-barrelled period-156 gun:
Apple Bottom wrote:Interestingly the loaves eat glider pairs travelling orthogonally to the streams fired; one pair of gliders hitting the loaf adds a pair of ships, the next pair of gliders (156 generations later) destroys these again. As a result the gun is period 312 overall even though it fires two pairs of gliders every 156 generations.
Huh, weird. I don't think that loaves (or ponds) acting as rocks for pairs of gliders, has come up before in this context. (Minor typo, by the way -- those are boats not ships.)
We had a p312 version of this gun before, and of course we could create lots of other p312 shotguns by adding various standard boat-bit catchers. But I never thought of a loaf or a pond as a workable double-boat-bit catcher.
dvgrn wrote:Huh, weird. I don't think that loaves (or ponds) acting as rocks for pairs of gliders, has come up before in this context. ... But I never thought of a loaf or a pond as a workable double-boat-bit catcher.
I have both of these (and also a beehive-flipper) in the period-312 oscillator section of my oscillator synthesis page, and I think I first saw them in some oscillator collection (probably jslife or Dean Hickerson's).
dvgrn wrote:Huh, weird. I don't think that loaves (or ponds) acting as rocks for pairs of gliders, has come up before in this context. (Minor typo, by the way -- those are boats not ships.)
D'oh. You're right, of course.
mniemiec wrote:
dvgrn wrote:Huh, weird. I don't think that loaves (or ponds) acting as rocks for pairs of gliders, has come up before in this context. ... But I never thought of a loaf or a pond as a workable double-boat-bit catcher.
I have both of these (and also a beehive-flipper) in the period-312 oscillator section of my oscillator synthesis page, and I think I first saw them in some oscillator collection (probably jslife or Dean Hickerson's).
OK, good to know. I'd actually searched for them both on your site, using the above RLE snippets, but found nothing -- I'm not smart enough for that search tool.
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Apple Bottom wrote:OK, good to know. I'd actually searched for them both on your site, using the above RLE snippets, but found nothing -- I'm not smart enough for that search tool.
The search page is good when you know a pattern's exact parameters. The version currently up shows every phase of every oscillator, except for the extremely large period ones (I think 300 and 312). The next version includes them all. It doesn't show every phase for growing patterns (basically, only one cycle), and only a few common early generations of the methuselahs. You can also search using other criteria (e.g. advanced search, category = oscillator, period = 312). I currently have very few guns listed. You can also skip the search, and go to the main life page, and browse around that way. I find that's often easier for finding patterns in context.
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The second one looks like there's probably a 9G, maybe 8G synth in there; the predecessor's just a modified R + loaf predecessor.
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Goldtiger997 wrote:Does anyone have a synthesis for this component? I have run into it several times with natural syntheses but have not been able to synthesise it.
x = 610, y = 12, rule = Life
108bo102bo294bo$6bo92bo6b2o102bo94bo107bobo89bo100bo$5bo94b2o5b2o101b
3o90b2o108b2o90b3o97bo$5b3o91b2o203b2o93bobo12bo190b3o$bo109bo288b2o
199bo$2bo107bo289bo7bo193bo$3o107b3o86bo8bo199bobo189b3o$7bo192b2o4b2o
93bo106b2o89bo107bo$7bobo189b2o6b2o93bo197b2o105bobo$7b2o291b3o3bo192b
2o7bobo96b2o$305bo202b2o$305b3o201bo!
It does not achieve symmetry until it is completely formed, interestingly enough. The R + HF + 2 blocks + blinker + hive stage looks synthesizable.
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A for awesome wrote:A weird C4_1-symmetric SL: ... It does not achieve symmetry until it is completely formed, interestingly enough. The R + HF + 2 blocks + blinker + hive stage looks synthesizable.
I made this from 13 gliders, at the same time AbhpzTa was working on his better one:
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I found improvements all the period 2 oscillators listed on mniemiec’s webpage that have syntheses greater or equal to one glider per bit, have less than 15 bits, and appear on catalogue with asymmetry.
Goldtiger997 wrote:I found improvements all the period 2 oscillators listed on mniemiec’s webpage that have syntheses greater or equal to one glider per bit, have less than 15 bits, and appear on catalogue with asymmetry.