Thread for your unsure discoveries

[fsrm]

I found a p2 oscillator:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
2o5bo$bo5bobo$bobo2bobo$2b3o3bo$4b2o$4bo2bo$7bo$6bo$7b3o$9bo!

[dvgrn]

found a p2 oscillator...
I found a p3 spaceship...
I found this pentadecathlon predecessor...
I found this 14-gen shuttle reaction...
How called this?...

I don't want to discourage you from experimenting and discovering things, but it looks like you're getting started on another string of dozens of short postings.

Can you explain why you didn't respond to anyone's replies yesterday? Again, it would be really good if you could spend a lot more time between your posts, thinking about whether a discovery is really worth posting. Please organize your ideas into a smaller number of posts, at least.

Here's one more example of the problem -- though people took a lot of time to give good examples yesterday, so I'm really hoping you read those posts also.

Anyone who wants a random pentadecathlon predecessor can spend a few minutes with JavaLifeSearch and generate thousands of these, all just about as good as yours (as far as I can see). So... why did you draw attention to this particular pattern?

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Also, when you post known patterns, please at least mention where you copied them from. Please don't just say that you "found" them. Otherwise people will tend to think you're claiming a new discovery, and waste time looking to see if it's really new.

It seems unlikely that you rediscovered the p3 spaceships by hand. The 29-cell one is not new (it's in jslife). I'm not sure about the other one, but there doesn't seem to be any point in checking. That's the point where I'm deciding to stop paying attention to anything you post.

If too many people stop paying attention, then you've lost your audience. Please be more careful.

[mniemiec]

How called this?

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$2bobobo$bo2bo2bo$ob2ob2obo$bo2bo2bo$2bobobo$3bobo$4bo!

I found that yesterday

This is called 24.1937771. I found that around 20 years ago, along with the 4051725 other 24-cell still-lifes. As I had previously mentioned, all still-lifes up to 24 cells have been exhaustively searched by computer decades ago.

[M. I. Wright]

Also, when you post known patterns, please at least mention where you copied them from. Please don't just say that you "found" them. Otherwise people will tend to think you're claiming a new discovery, and waste time looking to see if it's really new.

Perhaps he's saying that he 'found' the patterns in some other post on these forums?

[dvgrn]

Also, when you post known patterns, please at least mention where you copied them from. Please don't just say that you "found" them. Otherwise people will tend to think you're claiming a new discovery, and waste time looking to see if it's really new.

Perhaps he's saying that he 'found' the patterns in some other post on these forums?

Very likely. It seemed worth trying to explain what happens when s/he doesn't take the time to explain the context, in all these very short postings.

@fsrm, can you please respond directly to this question? Where, or how, did you find the second p/3 spaceship?

Just a question out of curiosity, it's not important. But it would be nice to know that you're reading all these responses to your posts.

[fsrm]

I found this:

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x = 128, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
104b2o$103bobo$3bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2b2o$3b98obo2bo$105bo$b100o
4bo$o97b4o$b94o21bobo$115bo2bo$b94o23bo$o113bo2bo$b94o3bo15b3o$96b2o$b
94o2b4o$o$b94o2b4o$96b2o4bo3bo4b2o6bo$b94o3bo3bo4bo2bobo5bobo2b2o$o99b
o3bo7b2o4bobo2b3o$b94o5bobo3b2o2b4o5bo3b2ob2o$96bobo8bo3b3o9b2o$b94o3b
obobo6bo13bo2bo$o101bo4b2ob2o12b2o$b94o12bo$102bobo3b2obo2bo$b94o3bobo
bo10bo$o95bobo$b94o5bobo$100bo$b94o3bo3bo$o95b2o4bo$b94o2b4o2$b94o2b4o
$o95b2o$b94o3bo2$b94o19b3o$o113bo2bo$b94o23bo$115bo2bo$b94o21bobo$o97b
4o$b100o4bo$105bo$3b98obo2bo$3bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2b
o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2b2o$103bobo$
104b2o!

[fsrm]

Also, when you post known patterns, please at least mention where you copied them from. Please don't just say that you "found" them. Otherwise people will tend to think you're claiming a new discovery, and waste time looking to see if it's really new.

Perhaps he's saying that he 'found' the patterns in some other post on these forums?

Very likely. It seemed worth trying to explain what happens when s/he doesn't take the time to explain the context, in all these very short postings.

@fsrm, can you please respond directly to this question? Where, or how, did you find the second p/3 spaceship?

Just a question out of curiosity, it's not important. But it would be nice to know that you're reading all these responses to your posts.

I found both c/3 spaceships with WLS.

[fsrm]

I found a c/3 spaceship:

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x = 50, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
8bobo5bobobo14b2o$6b2ob3o5b2o2b2obo13b2o$6b3o2b2obo2bobo5bobobo3b2obo
3bo7bo$4b2o2bo2b2ob2o3bo3bobob5o4bob3o4bo3bo$4b3obo2bo2b4obobo3bo4b5ob
2o2b3o3b3o$8bobo6b2o3b2obo4bo3b2o4bo3b2obo$4b3ob3o12b3o2bo2b2obo6b3o$o
2b3o19bob2o5bo$b2o24b3ob3o$2bo26bo!

Another c/3 ship. It is a tagalong (back end of the turtle, 2 cells shorter) pulled by a two c/3 edge spark ships.

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x = 16, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
3bo$2bobo$b2o$2bo$bobo4bobo$b5ob2obo$4bob2o$2ob2ob2ob2o$2o6b3o$2b4o2bo
$2bo3bo$3b2o$4b2o3bo$4b8o$6bo$2bo2bo$bobobo$bo$o2bo3bo$3ob2o$o2bo4bo$b
6o$6bo2bo$b2ob3o$bo2b3o$3b2o4bo$3ob2o3b2o$2o6bo$2b2o3bo$4bob2o$7bob2o$
8b3o4bo$8b2o4b2o$12bobo$11bo2bo$11bo2bo$12bobo$8b2o4b2o$8b3o4bo$7bob2o
$4bob2o$2b2o3bo$2o6bo$3ob2o3b2o$3b2o4bo$bo2b3o$b2ob3o$6bo2bo$b6o$o2bo
4bo$3ob2o$o2bo3bo$bo$bobobo$2bo2bo$6bo$4b8o$4b2o3bo$3b2o$2bo3bo$2b4o2b
o$2o6b3o$2ob2ob2ob2o$4bob2o$b5ob2obo$bobo4bobo$2bo$b2o$2bobo$3bo!

[fsrm]

I found a p3 oscillators:

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x = 21, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o11b2o$4bo3bo7bo2bo$5b4o8b2o$obo9bobo$4ob2o5b4ob2o$3o2b2o5b3o2b2o$
2b3obo7b3obo$2b2o2b2o6b2o2b2o$2b2o2bobo5b2o2bobo$7b2o10b2o!

[dvgrn]

I found both c/3 spaceships with WLS.

Thanks! That makes things clearer.

Here's a collection of small c/3 spaceships that Sokwe organized last year, in this same thread. You can look up your new discoveries based on the phase of the spaceship with the smallest number of ON cells.

Most people who post a c/3 spaceship do the extra work first, to see if it has been found before. Spaceships found with a few minutes of searching with WLS are very, very likely to be already known.

Either that or they are larger spaceships -- so large that it's pretty much impossible to keep track of them all. Sokwe cut off his collection at 50 bits. You've posted an 87-bit and a 120-bit c/3 along with the known 29-bit one. If there is anything special about those new ones, it would be good to mention that in your posting. Otherwise they will just get lost among the thousands or millions of c/3 spaceships of those sizes.

Can you find any c/3 spaceships that are 50 cells or smaller, that are not in Sokwe's collection?

[muzik]

Or, what would be nice, a spaceship that is not one of the already known speeds?

[fsrm]

I found this 3801-gen methuselah:

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
5bo$6bo$6bo$2o5bo$o3bo2bo$5b2o!

And this 4643-gen:

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x = 5, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
4bo$4bo$b3o21$3o$3bo$3bo!

[fsrm]

How called this?

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x = 88, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
2b2o8bo$bo2bo6bobo$bobo8bo$2bo3bo8bo7b3ob3o$5bobo6bobo$4bo2bo7bo$5b2o
5$39b3o$39bo2bo9b3o$2o3b2o2b2o5b2o3b2o16bo2bo9bo2bo$obobobo2bobo3bobo
3bobo3b2o11b3o12bo$2bobo6bo3bo7bo3bo26b2o$2bobo6bobobo7bobobo$3bo8bobo
9bobo$13bo11bo4$b2o3b2o$2bo3bo$2bobobo$3bobo32b2o$4bo33b2o5bo$45bo$45b
o$15b3o16b2o48b3o$15bo2bo15b2o4b2o41bo3bo$18bo20bobo42bo2bo$16b3o20b2o
44bobo$86bo3$35b3o!

[fsrm]

Pi + block = bi-block:

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x = 9, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$3o5bo$o2bo!

[NoLongerBreathedIn]

For crying out loud, fsrm, STOP QUINTUPLE POSTING. EDIT THE NEW MATERIAL INTO YOUR OLD GODDAMNED POSTS!
Edit a few hours later: Yes, you can edit even quite a while afterwards.

[Extrementhusiast]

For crying out loud, fsrm, STOP QUINTUPLE POSTING. EDIT THE NEW MATERIAL INTO YOUR OLD GODDAMNED POSTS!

I understand your frustration, but please do try to remain calm.

I've edited several of my posts ten times before, and one post I even edited 144 times. The edit button exists for a reason; use it!

[praosylen]

one post I even edited 144 times

I would be curious to know which one.

[dvgrn]

one post I even edited 144 times

I would be curious to know which one.

12^2 edits? 'Twas the top message of the famous 17-bit SL Syntheses thread, naturally.

By the time the 18-bit syntheses came around, Extrementhusiast wasn't such a newbie any more, so only 2^7-1 edits were needed there.

[fsrm]

Two related p14 agars:

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x = 152, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
4b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$4b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o
5b2o28b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$90b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b
2o5b2o5b2o$bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo
21bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo20bo8bo4bo
8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo20bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo
4bo8bo4bo8bo$bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo21bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo
8bo$87bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo$bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo$o8bo
4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo21bo6bo6bo6bo6bo
6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo20bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo
4bo8bo$bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo21bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$
86bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo22bo6bo6b
o6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4b
o8bo4bo8bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo21bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo
$bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo21bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$86bo8bo
4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo21bo8bo4bo8bo4bo
8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo21bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo
6bo6bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$bo6bo
6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo22bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo$86bo8bo4bo8bo
4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo21bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo
8bo4bo8bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo20bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$
o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo21bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo$o8bo4bo8bo
4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo$87bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6b
o6bo6bo6bo$bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo21bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8b
o$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo20bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$o8bo4bo
8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo20bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo$o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo
4bo8bo4bo8bo21bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo$bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo
6bo$90b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$4b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o
5b2o5b2o28b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$4b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o
5b2o5b2o5b2o!

[mniemiec]

Two related p14 agars:...

David Buckingham discovered the basic period 14 (and also period 15) traffic-light shuttle decades ago, and found ways to make it finite (considerably more difficult than making an agar out of it). It has since been used in many oscillators, and many other different traffic light shuttles have also since been discovered.

Before posting a discovery, please PLEASE please familiarize yourself with discoveries others have already made, to see if it has already been found. Chances are, it probably has.

[muzik]

This beehive fuse eventually turns into a line of blinkers. Could another fuse be made of those

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x = 3, y = 125, rule = B3/S23
3o3$3o3$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo
$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$b
o2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$
obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo
$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$bo2$bo$obo$obo$b
o2$bo$obo$obo$bo!

Also, could this spark be used to make a spaceship?

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x = 7, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
$2bobo$bo2bo$4bo$b2o!

[fsrm]

New components:

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x = 139, y = 154, rule = B3/S23
56b3o15b3o$55bo3bo13bo3bo$54b2o4bo11bo4b2o$53bobob2ob2o3b3o3b2ob2obobo
$52b2obo4bob2ob3ob2obo4bob2o$51bo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bo$63bo5bo14b3o$51b
2o7b2o9b2o7b2obo3bo$87b2o$77b3o4b2obobo$77bo9bob2o$86bo4bo$76b2o16b3o$
90b2obo3bo$7b3o27b3o57b2o$6bo3bo25bo3bo46b3o4b2obobo$5b2o4bo11bo11bo4b
2o35bo3bo5bo9bob2o$4bobob2ob2o3b4ob2ob2ob4o3b2ob2obobo33b3ob3o13bo4bo$
3b2obo4bob2ob4o7b4ob2obo4bob2o31b2obobob2o2b2o16b3o$2bo4bo3bo4bo2b2obo
bob2o2bo4bo3bo4bo29b2o7b2o15b2obo3bo$14bo4bo7bo4bo42bo7bo2bo20b2o$2b2o
7b2o6bo7bo6b2o7b2o29b2o9bo11b3o4b2obobo$72b2obob2o18bo9bob2o$18b2o7b2o
44bobo2b2o26bo4bo$20bo5bo43b2obo2bo2bo16b2o16b3o$18bo2bo3bo2bo41b2obo
5b2o29b2obo3bo$19bo2bobo2bo42bobo44b2o$22bobo44b2ob2o33b3o4b2obobo$20b
obobobo3b3o64bo3bo5bo9bob2o$19b2obobob2o2bo2bo33b3ob3o22b3ob3o13bo4bo
4bo3bo$14b3obo3bobo3bobo3bo31b2o27b2obobob2o2b2o17b3ob3o$13bo2bobobobo
bobobobobo2bob3o15b3ob3o4bo27b2o7b2o15b2o2b2obobob2o$12bo3bobo3bobo3bo
bo4bobo2bo13bo2bobo2bo2b2o28bo7bo2bo16b2o7b2o$7b3obo2bobo2bobo3bobo3bo
bobobo3bo11bo3bobo3bo30b2o9bo15bo2bo7bo$6bo2bobo4bo24bo11bo9b4o25b2obo
b2o23bo9b2o$5bo3bobobobo23bo15bo6bobo28bobo2b2o29b2obob2o$5bo34bobo9bo
bo35b2obo2bo2bo28b2o2bobo$7bo28b3obob2o7b2obob3o31b2obo5b2o16b3ob3o4bo
2bo2bob2o$4bobo29bo3bobobo5bobobo3bo31bobo23bo2bobo2bo2b2o5bob2o$3b2ob
ob3o31bob2o3b2obo36b2ob2o21bo3bobo3bo9bobo$2bobobo3bo24b2o5bo3bobo3bo
5b2o55bo9b4o5b2ob2o$b2obo82b3ob3o23bo6bobo$o3bo5b2o30b2ob2ob2ob2o33b2o
26bobo$75b3ob3o4bo26b2obob3o$2ob2o38bo3bo3bo22bo2bobo2bo2b2o25bobobo3b
o5bo3bo$43bo3bo3bo21bo3bobo3bo27b2obo10b3ob3o$73bo9b4o23bo3bo5b2o2b2ob
obob2o$41b2o5b2o25bo6bobo38b2o7b2o$41b2o5b2o22bobo35b2ob2o6bo2bo7bo$
30b3ob3o4bo7bo4b3ob3o10b2obob3o43bo9b2o$29bo2bobo2bo2b2o7b2o2bo2bobo2b
o8bobobo3bo28b3o3bo15b2obob2o$28bo3bobo3bo13bo3bobo3bo6b2obo24bo3bo5bo
5bo14b2o2bobo$28bo9b4o7b4o9bo5bo3bo5b2o16b3ob3o14b3ob3o4bo2bo2bob2o$
30bo6bobo11bobo6bo34b2obobob2o2b2o8bo2bobo2bo2b2o5bob2o$27bobo31bobo4b
2ob2o21b2o7b2o10bo3bobo3bo9bobo$26b2obob3o23b3obob2o30bo7bo2bo8bo9b4o
5b2ob2o$25bobobo3bo23bo3bobobo28b2o9bo11bo6bobo$24b2obo35bob2o25b2obob
2o15bobo$23bo3bo5b2o21b2o5bo3bo25bobo2b2o13b2obob3o$90b2obo2bo2bo12bob
obo3bo5bo3bo$23b2ob2o35b2ob2o22b2obo5b2o10b2obo10b3ob3o$90bobo17bo3bo
5b2o2b2obobob2o$89b2ob2o29b2o7b2o$110b2ob2o6bo2bo7bo$87b3ob3o28bo9b2o$
86b2o41b2obob2o$75b3ob3o4bo41b2o2bobo$74bo2bobo2bo2b2o30b3ob3o4bo2bo2b
ob2o$73bo3bobo3bo32bo2bobo2bo2b2o5bob2o$73bo9b4o28bo3bobo3bo9bobo$75bo
6bobo30bo9b4o5b2ob2o$72bobo42bo6bobo$71b2obob3o35bobo$70bobobo3bo34b2o
bob3o$69b2obo39bobobo3bo5bo3bo$68bo3bo5b2o31b2obo10b3ob3o$110bo3bo5b2o
2b2obobob2o$68b2ob2o50b2o7b2o$110b2ob2o6bo2bo7bo$65b3o3bo50bo9b2o$55bo
3bo5bo5bo57b2obob2o$54b3ob3o67b2o2bobo$53b2obobob2o2b2o6b2o43b3ob3o4bo
2bo2bob2o$52b2o7b2o9b2o42bo2bobo2bo2b2o5bob2o$53bo7bo2bo8bo4b3ob3o30bo
3bobo3bo9bobo$52b2o9bo9b2o2bo2bobo2bo29bo9b4o5b2ob2o$50b2obob2o19bo3bo
bo3bo30bo6bobo$51bobo2b2o15b4o9bo27bobo$48b2obo2bo2bo17bobo6bo28b2obob
3o$48b2obo5b2o26bobo24bobobo3bo$48bobo30b3obob2o22b2obo$47b2ob2o29bo3b
obobo20bo3bo5b2o$87bob2o$45b3ob3o28b2o5bo3bo18b2ob2o$44b2o$33b3ob3o4bo
42b2ob2o$32bo2bobo2bo2b2o6bo$31bo3bobo3bo9b2o$31bo9b4o8bo4bo3bo$33bo6b
obo14b3ob3o$30bobo19b2o2b2obobob2o$29b2obob3o18b2o7b2o$28bobobo3bo16bo
2bo7bo$27b2obo23bo9b2o$26bo3bo5b2o23b2obob2o$60b2o2bobo$26b2ob2o29bo2b
o2bob2o$59b2o5bob2o$67bobo$66b2ob2o2$66b3ob3o$72b2o$73bo4b3ob3o$73b2o
2bo2bobo2bo$76bo3bobo3bo$73b4o9bo$75bobo6bo$85bobo$81b3obob2o$81bo3bob
obo$87bob2o$80b2o5bo3bo2$87b2ob2o2$84b3o3bo$74bo3bo5bo5bo$73b3ob3o$72b
2obobob2o2b2o$71b2o7b2o$72bo7bo2bo$71b2o9bo$69b2obob2o$70bobo2b2o$67b
2obo2bo2bo$67b2obo5b2o$67bobo$66b2ob2o2$64b3ob3o$63b2o$52b3ob3o4bo$51b
o2bobo2bo2b2o$50bo3bobo3bo$50bo9b4o$52bo6bobo$49bobo$48b2obob3o$47bobo
bo3bo$46b2obo$45bo3bo5b2o2$45b2ob2o!

[fsrm]

How about:
- Quadfuse-type breeder (dirty wave stretcher)
- Extensible line puffers of speed other than c/2 or c/3?

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I found this:

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x = 168, y = 442, rule = B3/S23
165b3o$165bo$164b3o19$163bo$163b2o$162bobo51$142b3o$144bo$143bo50$122b
2o$123b2o$122bo50$102b2o$101bobo$103bo50$82bo$82b2o$81bobo51$61b3o$63b
o$62bo50$41b2o$42b2o$41bo50$21b2o$20bobo$22bo50$bo$b2o$obo!

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I found this. I need a p44 c/2 back rake:

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x = 152, y = 108, rule = B3/S23
18bo$19bo$17b3o9$51bo$52bo$50b3o9$84bo$85bo$83b3o9$117bo$118bo$116b3o
9$150bo$151bo$149b3o3$151bo$150bo$149b2o$150b2o$151bo8$133b2o$132bobo$
134bo9$100b2o$99bobo$101bo9$67b2o$66bobo$68bo9$34b2o$33bobo$35bo9$b2o$
obo$2bo!