Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Is this p12 sparker/eater known?

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x = 33, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
29bo$2o3b2o17bo3bobo$bobobo3bo2bo6b2o3bo4bo$b2ob2o2b2o3b2o4b2o2bobo$bo
bobo3bo2bo6b2o3bo$2o3b2o17bo2$29b2o$25b2obo$25b2o2bo2bo$30bobo$31bo2$
30b2o$30b2o!
I was experimenting with a known p12 traffic light shuttle, and when I made it push a beehive, I noticed that it can eat a dot and a block:

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x = 32, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
22bo$20b2o$o3bo23bo$5o18bo3bobo$2bo4bobob2o5b2ob2obo3bo$bobo5bob3o3bo
2bo4bo$2bo4bobob2o5b2ob2obo$5o18bo$o3bo$25b4o$24bo4bo$24bo3bobo$25bo3b
obo$31bo$31bo$28bo2bo$29b2o$21b2o$21b2o$o3bo23bo$5o18bo3bobo$2bo4bobob
2o5b2ob2obo3bo$bobo5bob3o3bo2bo4bo$2bo4bobob2o5b2ob2obo$5o18bo$o3bo$
25b4o$24bo4bo$24bo3bobo$25bo3bobo$31bo$31bo$28bo2bo$29b2o!
I didn't see it in the sparker stamp collection.

I know that traffic light shuttles and beehive/loaf mechanisms can make more sparkers, like what I did with my newest p11 domino sparker, so what other low-period reactions or rephasable-looking mechanisms can be turned into useful sparkers? So far I know the beehive/loaf, interchange, sandwich, bi-block reaction, grin, pipsquirter catalyst, the reaction in the p16 beehive hassler, ship+eater, and two-blinkers-to-domino reaction are useful low-period reactions.
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8than888 wrote: October 24th, 2026, 9:03 pm Is this p12 sparker/eater known?
I didn't see it in the sparker stamp collection.
in Weak Dot, there is this variant:

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x = 18, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$15bobo$12b2obobo$4bo7bobobo$3bo2bo7bo$2bo4bo4bo2bo$3b2o3bo6bo$6b
obo2bo3bo$8bo2bo3bo$15bo$12bo2bo$3b4o7bo$2bo4bo4bobobo$bobo3bo4b2obobo
$obo3bo8bobo$o14b2o$o$o2bo$b2o!
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Period1GliderGun wrote: October 24th, 2026, 4:22 am smaller p17 bumper:

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x = 98, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
44b2o22b2o$45bo22bo$45bobo18bobo$46b2o18b2o2$50b2o10b2o$42b2o5b2o12b2o
5b2o$43bo7bo10bo7bo$43bobo22bobo$44b2o22b2o$50b3o8b3o$47bob2obo8bob2o
bo$38b2o10bo12bo10b2o$38bo36bo$35b2obo36bob2o$34bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2ob
obo$33bo6bo4b2o20b2o4bo6bo$32bo4b3o10b2o10b2o10b3o4bo$31bo4bo2bobo8b2o
10b2o8bobo2bo4bo$30bo4bobo38bobo4bo$30b2o2bobo40bobo2b2o$33bobo10bo20b
o10bobo$28b4obo10bob2obo14bob2obo10bob4o$28bo2bob2o9b3o20b3o9b2obo2bo
$32bo18b2o8b2o18bo$34bo16bobo6bobo16bo$22bo20bo9bo6bo9bo20bo$22b3o17b
o10b2o4b2o10bo17b3o$16bo8bo12b2o34b2o12bo8bo$16b3o5b2o5b2o6bo34bo6b2o
5b2o5b3o$19bo11b2o4b3o34b3o4b2o11bo$18b2o7bo10bo36bo10bo7b2o2$22bo4bo
10bo36bo10bo4bo$21b2o3b3o4b2o44b2o4b3o3b2o$21bobo2bo6b2o5b2o30b2o5b2o
6bo2bobo$26b2o12bo32bo12b2o$41b3o26b3o$43bo26bo$21bo4$43bo26bo$41b3o26b
3o$14b2o10b2o12bo32bo12b2o$6b2o6b2o5bobo2bo6b2o5b2o30b2o5b2o6bo2bobo$
7bo13b2o3b3o4b2o44b2o4b3o3b2o$7bobo12bo4bo10bo36bo10bo4bo$o7b2o3b3o$3o
9bob2o11bo10bo36bo10bo7b2o$3bo8bo3bo14b2o4b3o34b3o4b2o11bo$2b2o9b2obo
7b2o5b2o6bo34bo6b2o5b2o5b3o$13b3o9bo12b2o34b2o12bo8bo$7bo11b2ob3o17bo
10b2o4b2o10bo17b3o$6bobo10b2obo20bo9bo6bo9bo20bo$6bo2bo3b2o19bo16bobo
6bobo16bo$7b2o4b2o4b6o7bo18b2o8b2o18bo$18bo6bo2bo2bob2o9b3o20b3o9b2ob
o2bo$16b3obobobo3b4obo10bob2obo14bob2obo10bob4o$15bo3b2ob2o9bobo10bo20b
o10bobo$3b2o11b2o3bo8b2o2bobo40bobo2b2o$2bobo13b2obo8bo4bobo38bobo4bo
$4bo13bobo10bo4bo2bobo8b2o10b2o8bobo2bo4bo$32bo4b3o10b2o10b2o10b3o4bo
$33bo6bo4b2o20b2o4bo6bo$34bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2obobo$35b2obo36bob2o$38b
o36bo$38b2o10bo12bo10b2o$47bob2obo8bob2obo$50b3o8b3o$44b2o22b2o$43bob
o22bobo$43bo7bo10bo7bo$42b2o5b2o12b2o5b2o$50b2o10b2o2$46b2o18b2o$45bo
bo18bobo$45bo22bo$44b2o22b2o!
Smaller:

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x = 116, y = 85, rule = B3/S23
113bobo$113b2o$114bo$28b2o22b2o$29bo22bo$29bobo18bobo$30b2o18b2o2$33b
o14bo57bo$26b2o26b2o48b2o$27bo26bo50b2o$27bobo3b3o10b3o3bobo$28b2o2bo
3bo8bo3bo2b2o$31bo5bo6bo5bo$31bo5bo6bo5bo$22b2o7bo5bo6bo5bo7b2o$22bo9b
o3bo8bo3bo9bo$19b2obo10b3o10b3o10bob2o33bobo$18bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2obo
bo32b2o$17bo11b2o20b2o11bo32bo$16bo4b3o10b2o10b2o10b3o4bo$15bo4bo2bo10b
2o10b2o10bo2bo4bo$14bo4bobo7b3o18b3o7bobo4bo$14b2o2bobo7bo3bo16bo3bo7b
obo2b2o$17bobo7bo5bo14bo5bo7bobo$12b4obo9bo5bo14bo5bo9bob4o$12bo2bob2o
8bo5bo14bo5bo8b2obo2bo$28bo3bo2b2o8b2o2bo3bo$29b3o3bobo6bobo3b3o$6bo30b
o6bo30bo$6b3o12b3o13b2o4b2o13b3o12b3o$o8bo10bo3bo32bo3bo10bo5b2o4b2o$
3o5b2o5b2o2bo5bo30bo5bo2b2o5b2o4b2o3bo2bo$3bo11b2o2bo5bo30bo5bo2b2o17b
obo$2b2o6b3o6bo5bo30bo5bo6b3o7bo5bo$9bo3bo6bo3bo32bo3bo6bo3bo6b2o$5bo
2bo5bo6b3o34b3o6bo5bo7bo7b2o$8bo5bo2b2o44b2o2bo5bo6bo8bo$8bo5bo2b2o5b
2o30b2o5b2o2bo5bo7b3o6b3o$9bo3bo10bo32bo10bo3bo10bo8bo$10b3o12b3o26b3o
12b3o$27bo26bo5$27bo26bo$10b3o12b3o26b3o12b3o$9bo3bo10bo32bo10bo3bo$8b
o5bo2b2o5b2o30b2o5b2o2bo5bo$8bo5bo2b2o44b2o2bo5bo$5bo2bo5bo6b3o34b3o6b
o5bo2bo$9bo3bo6bo3bo32bo3bo6bo3bo$2b2o6b3o6bo5bo30bo5bo6b3o6b2o$3bo11b
2o2bo5bo30bo5bo2b2o11bo$3o5b2o5b2o2bo5bo30bo5bo2b2o5b2o5b3o$o8bo10bo3b
o32bo3bo10bo8bo$6b3o12b3o13b2o4b2o13b3o12b3o$6bo30bo6bo30bo$29b3o3bob
o6bobo3b3o$28bo3bo2b2o8b2o2bo3bo$12bo2bob2o8bo5bo14bo5bo8b2obo2bo$12b
4obo9bo5bo14bo5bo9bob4o$17bobo7bo5bo14bo5bo7bobo$14b2o2bobo7bo3bo16bo
3bo7bobo2b2o$14bo4bobo7b3o18b3o7bobo4bo$15bo4bo2bo10b2o10b2o10bo2bo4b
o$16bo4b3o10b2o10b2o10b3o4bo$17bo11b2o20b2o11bo$18bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2o
bobo$19b2obo10b3o10b3o10bob2o$22bo9bo3bo8bo3bo9bo$22b2o7bo5bo6bo5bo7b
2o$31bo5bo6bo5bo$31bo5bo6bo5bo$28b2o2bo3bo8bo3bo2b2o$27bobo3b3o10b3o3b
obo$27bo26bo$26b2o26b2o$33bo14bo2$30b2o18b2o$29bobo18bobo$29bo22bo$28b
2o22b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

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I just found a p10 B hassler!

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x = 26, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bobo$5bobo$ob2obob2o$2obobo2bo$5bobo$4bo2bo16b2o$4b2o8bo4bo3bobo$
7bo5bobo2bobobobo$4b4o6bo3bo$3bo13bob2obob2o$4b4o8bob3o4bo$7bo12bo4bo$
4b2o10bo4bo$4bo2bo6bo4b2o$5bobo4b4o$2obobo2bo4bob2o$ob2obob2o$5bobo$5b
obo$6b2ob2o3bo3b2o$8bo2bo2b2o3bo$8bob2o7bobo$7b2obo9b2o$7bo2bo$9b2obob
2o2bo$11bobob4o$11bobo$12bob3o$13bo2bo$14b2o!
I noticed that a B can turn into the same traffic light predecessor in my p10 pi hassler, and then noticed that a block that just got eaten can actually turn it back! The hassler is almost rephasable at p11. It just needs a good dot sparker or other reaction:

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x = 22, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12bo$9b2obo6bo$4bo6bo7bo$3bobobo7b2ob3o$3bobobo7b2ob2o$2obobobo
10b3o$ob2ob2obo2bo7bo$4bo5bo2b3o3bo$4bob4o3bo2bo$5bo11bo$7bo$6b2o$14bo
bob2o$14b2o3bo$5bo13bobo$5b3o12b2o$8bo2b2o$7bo2bob2o$7b3o2b2o$13bobo$
9b2o3bobo$9bo5bo$7bobo$7b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

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8than888 wrote: October 25th, 2026, 8:11 pm I just found a p10 B hassler!

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x = 26, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bobo$5bobo$ob2obob2o$2obobo2bo$5bobo$4bo2bo16b2o$4b2o8bo4bo3bobo$
7bo5bobo2bobobobo$4b4o6bo3bo$3bo13bob2obob2o$4b4o8bob3o4bo$7bo12bo4bo$
4b2o10bo4bo$4bo2bo6bo4b2o$5bobo4b4o$2obobo2bo4bob2o$ob2obob2o$5bobo$5b
obo$6b2ob2o3bo3b2o$8bo2bo2b2o3bo$8bob2o7bobo$7b2obo9b2o$7bo2bo$9b2obob
2o2bo$11bobob4o$11bobo$12bob3o$13bo2bo$14b2o!
I noticed that a B can turn into the same traffic light predecessor in my p10 pi hassler, and then noticed that a block that just got eaten can actually turn it back! The hassler is almost rephasable at p11. It just needs a good dot sparker or other reaction:

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x = 22, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12bo$9b2obo6bo$4bo6bo7bo$3bobobo7b2ob3o$3bobobo7b2ob2o$2obobobo
10b3o$ob2ob2obo2bo7bo$4bo5bo2b3o3bo$4bob4o3bo2bo$5bo11bo$7bo$6b2o$14bo
bob2o$14b2o3bo$5bo13bobo$5b3o12b2o$8bo2b2o$7bo2bob2o$7b3o2b2o$13bobo$
9b2o3bobo$9bo5bo$7bobo$7b2o!
Apparently, anything with a good ol' three-cell row, such as a glider, will do.

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x = 74, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
12b2o24b2o24b2o$12bo25bo25bo$10bobo23bobo23bobo$4bo5b2o4bo13bo5b2o18b
o5b2o$3bobo9bo13bobo8bo3bo10bobo9bo2bo$3bobob2o6b3o11bobob2o6b3o11bob
ob2o6b3o$2obobob2o17b2obobob2o17b2obobob2o$ob2ob3o6bo11bob2ob3o6bo11b
ob2ob3o6bo$4bo5bob4o14bo5bob4o14bo5bob4o$4bob4o3bob2o13bob4o3bob2o13b
ob4o3bob2o$5bo25bo25bo$7bo25bo25bo$6b2o24b2o24b2o$14bo3b2o20bo3b2o20b
o3b2o$14b2o3bo20b2o3bo20b2o3bo$5bo13bobo9bo13bobo9bo13bobo$5b3o12b2o9b
3o12b2o9b3o12b2o$8bo2b3o20bo2b3o20bo2b3o$7bo2bo22bo2bo22bo2bo$7b3obo21b
3obo21b3obo$10bob2obo20bob2obo20bob2obo$9b2o3bobo18b2o3bobo18b2o3bobo
$9bo5bo19bo5bo19bo5bo$7bobo23bobo23bobo$7b2o24b2o24b2o!
However, because p11 doesn't allow for gliders, really, and even though this is a novel way to turn a traffic light sequence into itself, the eater doesn't give much room to turn it back, so I still like the way you discovered, 8than888.
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Almost a completion with diamondback

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x = 24, y = 28, rule = B3/S23Investigator
20.2A$19.A.A$13.A5.A$12.A.A3.2A$12.AD$10.A.AE2.6A$4.A5.2A6.A2.A$3.A.A
9.A4.A$3.A.A.2A5.E3A3.3A$2A.A.A.2A14.A$A.2A.3A6.A$4.A5.A.4A$4.A.4A3.A
.2A$5.A$7.A$6.2A$14.A3.2A$14.2A3.A$5.A13.A.A$5.3A12.2A$8.A2.3A$7.A2.A
$7.3A.A$10.A.2A.A$9.2A3.A.A$9.A5.A$7.A.A$7.2A!
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I just found a p52 pi hassler/shuttle!

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x = 24, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20bo$6b2o10bobo$5bobo6b2o2b2o$5bo8b2o6b2o$ob2ob2o14bobo$2obo17bo
$3bo16b2o$3b2o5bo$9b2o$9b2o$11bo2$7b3o$7b2o9b3o$4b2ob2o10b3o$3b3o2bo$
3b2o4bo$8b2o4b2o$7b2o5bo$15b3o$17bo5$2o$2o$7bo$6b2o$5b2obo$5bo$2o5bo$
2o2b2o5$17bo$15b3o$14bo$14b2o3$8b3o8b3o$7bo3bo6b3o2$8bobo$7bo2bo$6b2o
4b2o$9bo2bo$3b2o4bobo$3bo16b2o$2obo3b2o3bo8bo$ob2ob2o2b3o9bobo$5bo8b2o6b2o$5bobo6b2o2b2o$6b2o10bobo$20bo$20b2o!
I was trying to flip a pi again, but I accidentally put a block in the wrong place and it made the pi actually flip! I first found a 28-cell solution in LifeInvestigator:

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x = 10, y = 20, rule = LifeInvestigator    
9.A$8.2A$5.D2.2A$8.A3$2A4.A$2A3.3A$5.A.A4$2A$2A3$8.A$5.D2.2A$8.2A$9.A!    
And I was able to complete it with 2 Tub-with-tail eaters activated by 2 p52 glider guns. I just reduced it to 161 cells with 2 p52 LoM hasslers!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

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8than888 wrote: October 26th, 2026, 11:04 pm I just found a p52 pi hassler/shuttle!

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x = 35, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
31b2o$31bo$17b2o10bobo$16bobo6b2o2b2o$16bo8b2o6b2o$11bob2ob2o14bobo$11b
2obo17bo$14bo16b2o$14b2o5bo$20b2o$20b2o$22bo2$18b3o$18b2o9b3o$15b2ob2o
10b3o$14b3o2bo$14b2o4bo$19b2o4b2o$18b2o5bo$26b3o$28bo5$11b2o$11b2o$16b
o$16b2o$15bob2o$18bo$16bo5b2o$18b2o2b2o5$6bo$6b3o$9bo$8b2o3$2b3o8b3o$
3b3o6bo3bo2$13bobo$13bo2bo$10b2o4b2o$11bo2bo$12bobo4b2o$2b2o16bo$2bo8b
o3b2o3bob2o$obo9b3o2b2ob2obo$2o6b2o8bo$4b2o2b2o6bobo$3bobo10b2o$3bo$2b
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Sokwe wrote: October 24th, 2026, 7:37 pm Let me know if I missed any...
there is this p48 (also completed by me) that I put on the discord a while ago but may not have made it here:

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x = 40, y = 68, rule = B3/S23
24b2o9b2o$25bo9bo$24bo11bo$24b2o9b2o$25bo4bo4bo$22b3ob9ob3o$21bo2bo3b
obobo3bo2bo$21b2o15b2o$27b2o3b2o2$25b2ob2ob2ob2o$24bo5bo5bo$24b2obo5b
ob2o2$30bo3$28b3o$21b2o4bo3bo$21bobo3bo3bo3b2o$22bobo2bo6bo2bo$17b2o4b
o4b3o4bobo$17b2o14b2obo$33b3o$25b2o6b2o$25bo$20b2o4b3o$5bo3b2o9b2o6bo
$bo2bobobo2bo$b4obob2obo$6bo2bob2o$b3obobo4bo6bo$o4bobobobo7bo$2o2b2o
bobobo7bo$5b3obobo7bo$4bo4bobo7bo$4b2obobo2bo6bo$7bobob2o$4b3o2bobo$4b
o4bobo$10bo9b2o6bo$20b2o4b3o$25bo$25b2o6b2o$33b3o$17b2o14b2obo$17b2o4b
o4b3o4bobo$22bobo2bo6bo2bo$21bobo3bo3bo3b2o$21b2o4bo3bo$28b3o3$30bo2$
24b2obo5bob2o$24bo5bo5bo$25b2ob2ob2ob2o2$27b2o3b2o$21b2o15b2o$21bo2bo
3bobobo3bo2bo$22b3ob9ob3o$25bo4bo4bo$24b2o9b2o$24bo11bo$25bo9bo$24b2o
9b2o!
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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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p7 partial (the tubs must survive)

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$10bo2bo$10bo2bo$10bo$6b2o$6bob2o$bo7b2o$obo7b2obo$bob2o7bobo$4b
2o7bo$5b2obo$7b2o$4bo$bo2bo$bo2bo$2o!

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x = 19, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
13b3o$12b4o$11b2obobo$13bobo$15bo12$10b2o$bobo7bobo$o7b2o3b2o$o3bo2b3o
3bo$o6b4obo$o2bo7bo$3o12bobo$18bo$14bo3bo$14bo3bo$18bo$9bo5bo2bo$8b3o
5b3o2$10bo$2bobo4b2o$5bo2b3o$5bo2b3o$2bo2bo2b2obo$3b3o3b3o$10bo!
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I just found a p17 century/traffic light hassler!

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x = 184, y = 93, rule = B3/S23
28b2o22b2o$29bo22bo$29bobo18bobo$30b2o18b2o2$34b2o10b2o$26b2o5b2o12b2o
5b2o$27bo7bo10bo7bo$27bobo22bobo$28b2o22b2o$34b3o8b3o$31bob2obo8bob2ob
o79b2o22b2o$22b2o10bo12bo10b2o71bo22bo$22bo36bo71bobo18bobo$19b2obo36b
ob2o69b2o18b2o$18bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2obobo$17bo6bo4b2o20b2o4bo6bo71b2o
10b2o$16bo4b3o10b2o10b2o10b3o4bo62b2o5b2o12b2o5b2o$15bo4bo2bobo8b2o10b
2o8bobo2bo4bo62bo7bo10bo7bo$14bo4bobo38bobo4bo61bobo22bobo$14b2o2bobo
40bobo2b2o62b2o22b2o$17bobo10bo20bo10bobo71b3o8b3o$12b4obo10bob2obo14b
ob2obo10bob4o63bob2obo8bob2obo$12bo2bob2o9b3o20b3o9b2obo2bo54b2o10bo
12bo10b2o$16bo18b2o8b2o18bo58bo36bo$18bo16bobo6bobo16bo57b2obo36bob2o$
6bo20bo9bo6bo9bo20bo44bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2obobo$6b3o17bo10b2o4b2o10bo
17b3o43bo6bo4b2o20b2o4bo6bo$o8bo12b2o34b2o12bo8bo36bo4b3o10b2o10b2o10b
3o4bo$3o5b2o5b2o6bo34bo6b2o5b2o5b3o35bo4bo2bobo8b2o10b2o8bobo2bo4bo$3b
o11b2o4b3o34b3o4b2o11bo37bo4bobo38bobo4bo$2b2o7bo10bo36bo10bo7b2o36b2o
2bobo40bobo2b2o$119bobo10bo20bo10bobo$6bo4bo10bo36bo10bo4bo6b2o30b4obo
10bob2obo14bob2obo10bob4o$5b2o3b3o4b2o44b2o4b3o3b2o6bo30bo2bob2o9b3o
20b3o9b2obo2bo$5bobo2bo6b2o5b2o30b2o5b2o6bo2bobo5bo35bo18b2o8b2o18bo$
10b2o12bo32bo12b2o10b2o18b2o16bo16bobo6bobo16bo$25b3o26b3o27bo11b2o4bo
5bo20bo9bo6bo9bo20bo$27bo26bo27b4ob3o6bobo5bo3b3o17bo10b2o4b2o10bo17b
3o$81bo5b3o7bo5b2o6bo12b2o34b2o12bo8bo$81b2o27b2o5b2o6bo34bo6b2o5b2o5b
3o$95b5o3b2o12b2o4b3o34b3o4b2o11bo$95bo4bo2bobo7bo10bo36bo10bo7b2o$27b
o26bo32b3obo6bobo2b3o$25b3o26b3o26b2o3b3o7b2o13bo10bo36bo10bo4bo$10b2o
12bo32bo12b2o11b2o4bo18bo3b3o4b2o44b2o4b3o3b2o$5bobo2bo6b2o5b2o30b2o5b
2o6bo3bo32bo3bo6b2o5b2o30b2o5b2o6bo2bobo$5b2o3b3o4b2o44b2o4b3o3bo18bo
4b2o11b2o12bo32bo12b2o$6bo4bo10bo36bo10bo13b2o7b3o3b2o26b3o26b3o$78b3o
2bobo6bob3o32bo26bo$2b2o7bo10bo36bo10bo7bobo2bo4bo$3bo11b2o4b3o34b3o4b
2o12b2o3b5o$3o5b2o5b2o6bo34bo6b2o5b2o27b2o$o8bo12b2o34b2o12bo6b2o5bo7b
3o5bo$6b3o17bo10b2o4b2o10bo17b3o3bo5bobo6b3ob4o27bo26bo$6bo20bo9bo6bo
9bo20bo5bo4b2o11bo27b3o26b3o$18bo16bobo6bobo16bo16b2o18b2o10b2o12bo32b
o12b2o$16bo18b2o8b2o18bo35bo5bobo2bo6b2o5b2o30b2o5b2o6bo2bobo$12bo2bob
2o9b3o20b3o9b2obo2bo30bo6b2o3b3o4b2o44b2o4b3o3b2o$12b4obo10bob2obo14bo
b2obo10bob4o30b2o6bo4bo10bo36bo10bo4bo$17bobo10bo20bo10bobo$14b2o2bobo
40bobo2b2o36b2o7bo10bo36bo10bo7b2o$14bo4bobo38bobo4bo37bo11b2o4b3o34b
3o4b2o11bo$15bo4bo2bobo8b2o10b2o8bobo2bo4bo35b3o5b2o5b2o6bo34bo6b2o5b
2o5b3o$16bo4b3o10b2o10b2o10b3o4bo36bo8bo12b2o34b2o12bo8bo$17bo6bo4b2o
20b2o4bo6bo43b3o17bo10b2o4b2o10bo17b3o$18bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2obobo44bo
20bo9bo6bo9bo20bo$19b2obo36bob2o57bo16bobo6bobo16bo$22bo36bo58bo18b2o
8b2o18bo$22b2o10bo12bo10b2o54bo2bob2o9b3o20b3o9b2obo2bo$31bob2obo8bob
2obo63b4obo10bob2obo14bob2obo10bob4o$34b3o8b3o71bobo10bo20bo10bobo$28b
2o22b2o62b2o2bobo40bobo2b2o$27bobo22bobo61bo4bobo38bobo4bo$27bo7bo10bo
7bo62bo4bo2bobo8b2o10b2o8bobo2bo4bo$26b2o5b2o12b2o5b2o62bo4b3o10b2o10b
2o10b3o4bo$34b2o10b2o71bo6bo4b2o20b2o4bo6bo$120bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2obob
o$30b2o18b2o69b2obo36bob2o$29bobo18bobo71bo36bo$29bo22bo71b2o10bo12bo
10b2o$28b2o22b2o79bob2obo8bob2obo$136b3o8b3o$130b2o22b2o$129bobo22bobo
$129bo7bo10bo7bo$128b2o5b2o12b2o5b2o$136b2o10b2o2$132b2o18b2o$131bobo
18bobo$131bo22bo$130b2o22b2o!
This is my first p17 discovery, and it might even be reducible! It's based on this accidental traffic light-to-century reaction:

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2bo$bo$b2o$3bo$b3o3b2o$o6b2o$2o$7b2o$7b3o$7b2o!
And I tried making an oscillator using this reaction by turning the century into a pi predecessor and catalyzing the block to make the traffic light. I almost got a p16 oscillator, but I couldn't find anything that fit for the block:

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x = 31, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$6bo$5bo$5b2o9bo$7bo7bo$5b3o3b2o2bo$4bo6b2o2bo$4b2o2$20bo$10b3o6bo
bo6bo$5bo4bob2o6bo6b3o$4b3o7bo11bob3o$3bob3o4b2o3bo7bo3bo$2bo3bo5bo2b
2ob2o4bo3bo$bo3bo9bo4bo2b3obo$3obo19b3o$b3o12bo8bo$2bo$18bo2bo$18b2o!
Then I noticed that a grin in a different location can turn the century back into the traffic light at p17, which made me realize that it was actually completable!

Edit: I just found a p15 century/traffic light hassler!

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x = 27, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12b2o2$12b4o$11bo3bo$12bo$12bo$13bo$12bobob2o$13bo4b2o$25bo$25bo
$15bo4bo3bobo$2b2o6b2o4bo3bo4bo$o4bo2bo4bo3b3o5bo$o4bo2bo4bo11bo$o4bo
2bo4bo11bo$2b2o6b2o12bobo$25bo$25bo!
It uses the same reaction, but the snake bridge eater is replaced with a p3 toad.
Last edited by 8than888 on October 28th, 2026, 4:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
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8than888 wrote: October 28th, 2026, 2:38 am I just found a p17 century/traffic light hassler!
reduced slightly (-16 EDIT: -18 minpop):

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x = 174, y = 103, rule = B3/S23
120b2o22b2o$121bo22bo$121bob2o16b2obo$122bo20bo$126bo12bo$124bo16bo$118b
2o5bo14bo5b2o$119bo26bo$119bobo4bo12bo4bobo$120b2o3b3o10b3o3b2o$124b2o
b2o8b2ob2o$123b3ob3o6b3ob3o$114b2o8b2ob2o8b2ob2o8b2o$114bo10b3o10b3o10b
o$111b2obo11bo12bo11bob2o$110bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2obobo$109bo11b2o20b2o
11bo$108bo4b3o10b2o10b2o10b3o4bo$107bo4bo2bo10b2o10b2o10bo2bo4bo$106b
o4bobo8bo20bo8bobo4bo$106b2o2bobo8b3o18b3o8bobo2b2o$28b2o22b2o55bobo8b
2ob2o16b2ob2o8bobo$29bo22bo51b4obo9b3ob3o14b3ob3o9bob4o$29bob2o16b2ob
o51bo2bob2o9b2ob2o16b2ob2o9b2obo2bo$30bo20bo69b3o3b2o8b2o3b3o$34bo12b
o74bo4bobo6bobo4bo$32bo16bo48bo30bo6bo30bo$26b2o5bo14bo5b2o42b3o13bo14b
2o4b2o14bo13b3o$27bo26bo37bo8bo11b3o34b3o11bo8bo$27bobo4bo12bo4bobo37b
3o5b2o5b2o3b5o32b5o3b2o5b2o5b3o$28b2o3b3o10b3o3b2o41bo11b2o2b2o3b2o30b
2o3b2o2b2o11bo$32b2ob2o8b2ob2o44bo8bo8b5o32b5o8bo8bo$31b3ob3o6b3ob3o43b
o2bo4b3o8b3o34b3o8b3o4bo2bo$22b2o8b2ob2o8b2ob2o8b2o38bo2b5o8bo36bo8b5o
2bo$22bo10b3o10b3o10bo36bo3b2o3b2o2b2o44b2o2b2o3b2o3bo$19b2obo11bo12b
o11bob2o38b5o3b2o5b2o30b2o5b2o3b5o$18bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2obobo38b3o11b
o32bo11b3o$17bo11b2o20b2o11bo38bo13b3o26b3o13bo$16bo4b3o10b2o10b2o10b
3o4bo11b2o40bo26bo$15bo4bo2bo10b2o10b2o10bo2bo4bo11bo$14bo4bobo8bo20b
o8bobo4bo9bo$14b2o2bobo8b3o18b3o8bobo2b2o9b2o$17bobo8b2ob2o16b2ob2o8b
obo14bo3bo$12b4obo9b3ob3o14b3ob3o9bob4o5b5o4bo34bo26bo$12bo2bob2o9b2o
b2o16b2ob2o9b2obo2bo4bo9bo18bo13b3o26b3o13bo$29b3o3b2o8b2o3b3o21bob2o
5bo6bo11b3o11bo32bo11b3o$30bo4bobo6bobo4bo21b2obo13b3o8b5o3b2o5b2o30b
2o5b2o3b5o$6bo30bo6bo31bo16bo6b2o3b2o2b2o44b2o2b2o3b2o3bo$6b3o13bo14b
2o4b2o14bo13b3o6b2o8bo5bo2b5o8bo36bo8b5o2bo$o8bo11b3o34b3o11bo5b2o2bo
bo8b3obo4b3o8b3o34b3o8b3o4bo2bo$3o5b2o5b2o3b5o32b5o3b2o5b2o4b2o4b2o17b
o8b5o32b5o8bo8bo$3bo11b2o2b2o3b2o30b2o3b2o2b2o16b2o4b2o16b2o2b2o3b2o30b
2o3b2o2b2o11bo$2bo8bo8b5o32b5o8bo17b2o4b2o4b2o5b2o3b5o32b5o3b2o5b2o5b
3o$2bo2bo4b3o8b3o34b3o8b3o4bob3o8bobo2b2o5bo11b3o34b3o11bo8bo$6bo2b5o
8bo36bo8b5o2bo5bo8b2o6b3o13bo14b2o4b2o14bo13b3o$4bo3b2o3b2o2b2o44b2o2b
2o3b2o6bo16bo31bo6bo30bo$9b5o3b2o5b2o30b2o5b2o3b5o8b3o13bob2o21bo4bob
o6bobo4bo$10b3o11bo32bo11b3o11bo6bo5b2obo21b3o3b2o8b2o3b3o$11bo13b3o26b
3o13bo18bo9bo4bo2bob2o9b2ob2o16b2ob2o9b2obo2bo$27bo26bo34bo4b5o5b4obo
9b3ob3o14b3ob3o9bob4o$90bo3bo14bobo8b2ob2o16b2ob2o8bobo$95b2o9b2o2bob
o8b3o18b3o8bobo2b2o$96bo9bo4bobo8bo20bo8bobo4bo$95bo11bo4bo2bo10b2o10b
2o10bo2bo4bo$27bo26bo40b2o11bo4b3o10b2o10b2o10b3o4bo$11bo13b3o26b3o13b
o38bo11b2o20b2o11bo$10b3o11bo32bo11b3o38bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2obobo$9b5o
3b2o5b2o30b2o5b2o3b5o38b2obo11bo12bo11bob2o$4bo3b2o3b2o2b2o44b2o2b2o3b
2o3bo36bo10b3o10b3o10bo$6bo2b5o8bo36bo8b5o2bo38b2o8b2ob2o8b2ob2o8b2o$
2bo2bo4b3o8b3o34b3o8b3o4bo2bo43b3ob3o6b3ob3o$2bo8bo8b5o32b5o8bo8bo44b
2ob2o8b2ob2o$3bo11b2o2b2o3b2o30b2o3b2o2b2o11bo41b2o3b3o10b3o3b2o$3o5b
2o5b2o3b5o32b5o3b2o5b2o5b3o37bobo4bo12bo4bobo$o8bo11b3o34b3o11bo8bo37b
o26bo$6b3o13bo14b2o4b2o14bo13b3o42b2o5bo14bo5b2o$6bo30bo6bo30bo48bo16b
o$30bo4bobo6bobo4bo74bo12bo$29b3o3b2o8b2o3b3o69bo20bo$12bo2bob2o9b2ob
2o16b2ob2o9b2obo2bo51bob2o16b2obo$12b4obo9b3ob3o14b3ob3o9bob4o51bo22b
o$17bobo8b2ob2o16b2ob2o8bobo55b2o22b2o$14b2o2bobo8b3o18b3o8bobo2b2o$14b
o4bobo8bo20bo8bobo4bo$15bo4bo2bo10b2o10b2o10bo2bo4bo$16bo4b3o10b2o10b
2o10b3o4bo$17bo11b2o20b2o11bo$18bobob2o5b2o20b2o5b2obobo$19b2obo11bo12b
o11bob2o$22bo10b3o10b3o10bo$22b2o8b2ob2o8b2ob2o8b2o$31b3ob3o6b3ob3o$32b
2ob2o8b2ob2o$28b2o3b3o10b3o3b2o$27bobo4bo12bo4bobo$27bo26bo$26b2o5bo14b
o5b2o$32bo16bo$34bo12bo$30bo20bo$29bob2o16b2obo$29bo22bo$28b2o22b2o!
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

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P44 pi-heptomino hassler, a completion of one of HotdogPi's partial:

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x = 90, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
8bo$2b2o3bo2bo2b3o4bo$2bo2b2obobobo4bobobo2b2o$17bo7bo21b2o4b2o$3bobo
7b2o5b2obo9bobo11bo5b2o$4bo18b2o6b3ob3o10bo$30bo7bo8b2o2b4o$30b2o5b2o
6bo2bobobo2bo$9b2o34b2o3b2o2b2o$9b2o13b3o12b3o7bo2b2o2b2o$16bo5bo4bo12b
2o7bo3b3o2bo$15bobo20bobo14bob2o$17bo4bo3bo2bobo7bo11b3obo25bo$16bo6b
3o3bobo21b3o13bo4b3o2bo2bo3b2o$32bo10bo20b2o2bobobo4bobobob2o2bo$2o13b
o15b2o10bo2b3o15bo7bo$2o12bobo13b3o12bo2bo17bob2o5b2o7bobo$14bobo13b2o
12bo3bo16b2o18bo$14bobo13b2ob2o9bo$31bobo10bo3bo$32bo12bo2bo30b2o$14b
obo29b3o30b2o$14bobo14b2o40bo$2o12bobo14b2o26b2o11bobo$2o13bo44bo11bo
$27b2o31bobo10bo$16bo10bobo31b2o$17bo11bo44bo13b2o$15bobo11b2o26b2o14b
obo12b2o$16bo40b2o14bobo$9b2o30b3o29bobo$9b2o30bo2bo12bo$41bo3bo10bob
o$45bo9b2ob2o13bobo$4bo18b2o16bo3bo12b2o13bobo$3bobo7b2o5b2obo17bo2bo
12b3o13bobo12b2o$17bo7bo15b3o2bo10b2o15bo13b2o$2bo2b2obobobo4bobobo2b
2o20bo10bo$2b2o3bo2bo2b3o4bo13b3o21bobo3b3o6bo$8bo25bob3o11bo7bobo2bo
3bo4bo$31b2obo14bobo20bobo$31bo2b3o3bo7b2o12bo4bo5bo$32b2o2b2o2bo7b3o
12b3o13b2o$34b2o2b2o3b2o34b2o$34bo2bobobo2bo6b2o5b2o$35b4o2b2o8bo7bo$
41bo10b3ob3o6b2o18bo$35b2o5bo11bobo9bob2o5b2o7bobo$35b2o4b2o21bo7bo$64b
2o2bobobo4bobobob2o2bo$69bo4b3o2bo2bo3b2o$81bo!
Sokwe wrote: October 24th, 2026, 7:37 pm Let me know if I missed any.
There are non-gun solutions for this p58 and this p62 also.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

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I just found a p27 century/queen bee hassler!

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x = 30, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
10bo7bob3o$9bob2o4bobo$10b4o2bobo$13b4obo2$7b2o18bo$6bo2bo2bo3b2o7b3o$
6bobo2b3o2bobo5bo$5b2ob4ob2o2b2o5b2o$14bo$3b6o2bo$2bo5bo12b3o$3bob3o
15bo4b2o$3o21bobo2bo$o2b5o16bob3o$3bo3bo13b2o$bobob2o17bob3o$b2o2bo7b
3o8bobo2bo$5bobo4bo3bo6bo4b2o$6b2o3bo5bo3b3o$11bo5bo2$24b2o$16bo7bo$
13b2obo8b3o$15bo11bo2$12b2o$13bo$10b3o$10bo!
It's based on this century-to-queen bee reaction:

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
2o$obo$2b2o$b2o3$bo$b2o$3b2o!
At first, I didn't really make progress on it, but then I found that the century can still turn into the queen bee without an obo sparker by turning a blinker into a boat, which I knew can be easily eaten back! The current way that the queen bee turns back into the century looks hard to reduce, but there might be smaller ways to do it.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Period = 30 x 127 x (2^127-1) = 648 237 908 984 387 772 897 728 627 157 518 442 819 870 :

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x = 559, y = 533, rule = B3/S23
13$292bo$291bobo$290bob2o15b2o$284b2o3b2ob2o14bobo$284b2o4bob2o13bo6b
2o$291bobo13bo2bo2bo2bob2o$292bo5bo8bo6b2o2b2o$298bobo7bobo$298b2o9b2o
5$249b2o40bo$249bo2bo37bo$253bo9bobo24b3o$237bo15bo7bo3bo$234b4o15bo7b
o$225bo7b4o12bo2bo7bo4bo8b2o$224bobo6bo2bo12b2o10bo12b2o$223bo3b2o4b4o
24bo3bo$212b2o9bo3b2o5b4o14bobo8bobo17bo$212b2o9bo3b2o8bo14b2o29bobo$
224bobo26bo24b2o3b2o$225bo51bo5bo$234bobo39bo12b2o$235b2o29b2o8bo7bo4b
2o$235bo30b2o8bo8b2o5b2o$246bo30bo4b2o2bo5b3o5b2o$244b2o32b2ob5o6b2o6b
2o$245b2o37bo4b2o$289b2o$242bo13bo2bo$243b2o15bo11b4o$242b2o12bo3bo10b
o3bo$246b3o8b4o14bo$248bo22bo2bo$237bo9bo$236bobo38b2o$224b2o10b2obo8b
obo26bobo20b2o$224b2o10b2ob2o6bo2bo26bo22bo$236b2obo6b2o10b2o28bo9bobo
$236bobo5b2o3bo8b2o26b4o8b2o$237bo8b2o5b2o21bobo6bobob2o$247bo2bo4bo
20bo3bo3bo2bob3o$248bobo29bo4bobob2o$276bo4bo4b4o$280bo7bo$268b2o6bo3b
o$267bobo6bobo$267bo$266b2o23$231bo$231bobo$231b2o162$538b2o$538b2o3$
54bo$54b3o$57bo$56b2o480b3o$537b2ob2o$537b2ob2o$537b5o$536b2o3b2o3$59b
o$58b3o$57b5o$56b2o3b2o2$541b2o$541bo$58b3o481b3o$58b3o483bo3$59b2o$
59b2o224$310bobo$310bo2bo$313b2o6b2o$311bo3b2o4b2o$313b2o$302b2o6bo2bo
$301bobo6bobo$301bo$300b2o!
(Which makes 170 141 183 460 469 231 731 687 303 715 884 105 727 iterations !)


To compare with this other loop of similar size, whose period is much shorter :

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x = 641, y = 621, rule = B3/S23
50$317bo5b2o$315bo3bo3b3o$319bo5b2obo8bo$314bo5bo4bo2bo6bobo$314b2o9b
2obo5bobo$323b3o7bo2bo11b2o$323b2o9bobo11b2o$335bobo$327bo9bo$325b2o$
326b2o6$318bobo$318b2o$319bo4$312bo$311bobo$256bobo47b2o3bo$256bo3bo
45b2o5b2o$240bo19bo42b2o8bobo4bo$238b4o14bo4bo4b2o27b2o5b3o15bobo$237b
obob2o4bo12bo5b2o27b2o6b2o6bo11b2o$232b2o2bo2bob3o5b2obo3bo3bo45b2o2b
3o10b2o4b2o$232b2o3bobob2o5b4obo2bobo47b2o2bo2b2o8b2o4b2o$238b4o6b2o2b
2o57b4o5bobo$240bo71bo7bo$274b2o28b2o$260b2o11b4o13b2o11b4o$258b2ob2o
10b2ob2o10b2ob2o10b2ob2o$258b4o13b2o11b4o$259b2o28b2o14bo$247b2o56b2o$
246bobo55b2o$248bo57bo22b2o$329bo$256b2o60b2o7bobo$256bobo59bo2bo5b2o$
256bo51bo3b3o7bo$228b2o77b5o3bo6bo$226bo3bo5bo2b3o40b2o22b2ob2o3bo7bo$
220b2o3bo5bo9bo3bo36bo22b3ob2o3bo3bo2bo$220b2o2b2obo3bo8bo4bobo16b2o8b
o5bobo23b2ob4o5b2o$225bo5bo16b2o14bo2bo6bobo3b2o15b2o8b4o$226bo3bo17b
2o9b2o2bo3bo7bobo18bobo9bo$228b2o18b2o8b3o2b2o2bo7bo2bo17bo$245bobo7bo
b2o16bobo17b2o$245bo9bo2bo8b3o4bobo$255bob2o15bo$258b3o$259b2o184$570b
2o$570b2o3$82bo$82b3o487b2o$85bo$84b2o3$568b2o3b2o$569b5o$569b2ob2o$
569b2ob2o$86b3o481b3o$85bo3bo$84bo5bo$84b2obob2o2$573b2o$87bo485bo$86b
obo485b3o$86bobo487bo$87bo2$87b2o$87b2o51$159bo$160bo$158b3o173$339b2o
$337bo3bo$336bo5bo8b2o$335b2obo3bo8b2o$336bo5bo$332b2o3bo3bo$331bobo5b
2o$331bo$330b2o!
Période : 30 x 128 x (128²-1), and only 16 383 iterations.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by GilGil »

I’m returning to my On-Off loops. I find this topic quite interesting:


A Binary Transformation with Remarkable Periods


1. The transformation rule

Consider a binary sequence of length n, consisting of bits equal to 0 or 1.
The initial state is: X0 = (1, 0, ..., 0)
At each iteration, a new state Y = (y1, ..., yn) is genered from the current state X = (x1, ..., xn) according to the rule:
yi = xn XOR x1 XOR ... XOR xi for i from 1 to n.

XOR denotes addition modulo 2:

• 0 XOR 0 = 0
• 0 XOR 1 = 1
• 1 XOR 1 = 0

The rule is deterministic: every state always produces the same next state.

This transformation can be studied mathematically or implemented in practice here using a device based on loops and gliders.


2. The return period T(n)

The return period T(n) is defined as the minimum number of iterations required to return exactly to the initial state.

Example for n = 3:
100 -> 111 -> 010 -> 011 -> 101 -> 001 -> 110 -> 100
Thus, T(3) = 7.

Since the transformation is invertible, the evolution forms a cycle. The maximum possible period is:
T_max(n) = 2^n - 1

When T(n) = 2^n - 1, the period is said to be maximal: the cycle visits every nonzero state before returning to the initial state.

Some examples of periods obtained are:

• n = 3: T(3) = 7
• n = 5: T(5) = 21
• n = 6: T(6) = 21
• n = 7: T(7) = 127
• n = 22: T(22) = 4,194,303
• n = 127: T(127) = 170,141,183,460,469,231,731,687,303,715,884,105,727
• n = 153: T(153) = 11,417,981,541,647,679,048,466,287,755,595,961,091,061,972,991

(The first five values were verified experimentally; the last two were obtained by calculation.)

These examples show that the period does not increase regularly with n.


3. Three families of values of n

A. First family: powers of 2

n = 2^k: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, ...

Experiments and calculations performed for several of these values indicate particularly short periods compared with the theoretical maximum period of 2^n - 1. Indeed, for these values of n, we observe:
T(n) = n^2 - 1.

This appears to be the minimum possible value. We denote it by T_min(n).

B. Second family: integers immediately below powers of 2

n = 2^k - 1: 3, 7, 15, 31, 63, 127, ...

The values n = 3 and n = 7 yield maximal periods. This does not mean that every value in this family necessarily has a maximal period.

C. Third family: all other integers

Examples: 5, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, ...

This family includes both maximal and non-maximal periods. For example, n = 22 reaches the maximum possible period without belonging to either of the first two families.

Therefore, the parity or primality of n alone is not sufficient to predict the period.


4. Repetitions in the concatenated binary stream

The successive states of a cycle can be concatenated to form a single binary stream.
The cycle contains T(n) states, each consisting of n bits. The complete stream therefore contains n times T(n) bits.

Three quantities must be distinguished:

• The logical period T(n): the number of iterations before the initial state is reached again.
• The length of the repeating block: the number of bits in the pattern that repeats.
• The number of repetitions: the number of copies of that block in the complete stream.

Reported observations:

• n = 5: logical period of 21, with a 21-bit block repeated 5 times.
• n = 6: logical period of 21, with a 63-bit block repeated 2 times.
• n = 7: logical period of 127, with a 127-bit block repeated 7 times.

For n = 5, the 21-bit block repeats five times even though the period is not maximal. For n = 7, the period is maximal and the 127-bit block repeats seven times.

These observations suggest a relationship between the logical period and the structure of the binary stream, but they are not sufficient to establish a general rule.


5. Conjectures to investigate

Conjecture 1: A quadratic lower bound

T(n) >= n^2 - 1.

The hypothesis is that the return period is always at least n^2 - 1, with equality when n is a power of 2. The values n = 2, n = 4, n = 8, n = 16, n = 32, n = 64, and n = 128 are consistent with this hypothesis:

• T(2) = 3
• T(4) = 15
• T(8) = 63
• T(16) = 255
• T(32) = 1,023
• T(64) = 4,095
• T(128) = 16,383

The conjecture remains to be proved for all values of n.

Conjecture 2: A particular structure in the concatenated stream

For certain values of n, the complete stream appears to consist of several identical copies of the same binary block.
The conditions under which the block length is exactly T(n) remain to be determined, as does the question of whether a maximal period guarantees this property.

Conjecture 3: Different behaviours across the three families of n

Powers of 2, integers of the form 2^k - 1, and all other integers may exhibit different behaviours.
However, observed patterns must be distinguished from proven properties. Neither the parity nor the primality of n is, by itself, a sufficient criterion for maximality.


6. The algebraic framework

The transformation can be studied using the polynomial:

P_n(x) = (x + 1)^n + x^(n - 1) over the finite field with two elements, denoted by F2.

The algebraic properties of this polynomial can be used to investigate the period of the transformation. In particular, its primitivity is linked to the occurrence of a maximal period of 2^n - 1.

This approach makes it possible to move beyond numerical observations and search for general mathematical criteria.


Conclusion

A simple binary rule can produce cycles of very different lengths and repeating patterns at multiple scales.

Three questions form the basis of this study:

1. How can the period T(n) be predicted from n?
2. Why do some sequence lengths produce maximal periods, while others produce much shorter periods?
3. What relationships exist between the logical cycle and repetitions in the concatenated binary stream?

The bound T(n) >= n^2 - 1, the role of the three families of values of n, and the repeating patterns in the stream are all avenues for further research. Their significance lies in the possibility of turning experimental observations into mathematically provable properties.

The bound T(n) >= n^2 - 1 and the claim that equality holds only when n is a power of 2 remain conjectures. The numerical values should also be recalculated independently before being accepted as established results.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

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I just found a p13 traffic light/r/pi hassler, almost by accident!

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x = 16, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$6bo$6bob2o$b2o4bobo$2bo$2bobo$3b2o2$7b3o$6bo2bo2$11bo$6bo$2o5bo3b
o$obo5b3o$2bo$2b2o8b2o$13bo$5b3o5bobo$4bo3bo5b2o$9bo$4bo2$6bo2bo$6b3o
2$11b2o$11bobo$13bo$6bobo4b2o$6b2obo$9bo$9b2o!
I wanted to make a p13 traffic light hassler, because there aren't many p13 traffic light hasslers. I noticed that turning an r-pentomino to a traffic light and back again would give me a p13 hassler. The first problem was solved by dimerizing it, but the second problem looked difficult. Then I found that when the traffic light hits a block predecessor, the second problem would've been solved, and the block turns into a pi, which I knew I can eat back:

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x = 4, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
b3o2$bobo$2bo2$b2o$o2bo$3bo!
So I tried experimenting with eating the pi, and I thought I'd need a line extender to turn the eaten pi into the block predecessor here:

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x = 18, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
7.2A$8.A$8.A.2A$3.2A4.A.A$4.A$4.A.2A2.A$5.A3.3A$12.A$7.3A.2A3$11.A$
10.3A$2.2A4.A$2.A.A$4.A$4.2A8.2A$15.A$15.A.A$11.A4.2A$7.3A$8.A2$C$.C.
C3.2A.3A$2.2C3.A$5.D2.3A3.A$4.2C3.A2.2A.A$2.C2.C9.A$2.3C3.A.A4.2A$8.
2A.A$2.2C.C5.A$2.C.2C5.2A!
but before doing that, I decided to run the pattern for fun, and it already worked! This is my first discovery using only stable supports!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

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p146 B hassler, a completion of one of my old partials:

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x = 89, y = 89, rule = B3/S23
6b2o3b2o$5bo7bo2b2o$8bobo5bobo2b2o47bo$6b2o3b2o4bo3b2o46bo2bo$69bo2bo
$18bo9bo42bo15bo$18bo7b3o56bo2bo$17bobo5bo59bo2bo$13bo11b2o59bo$13bo62b
o$11b4ob2ob2o4b2o48bobo8bo$10b2o4bobobo54bob2o6bo2bo$9bo5bo2bo2bo56bo
6bo2bo$10b2o2b3o3b3o49b3o3b3o6bo$13bo2bo3bo2bo3b2o46bo2bo$13bobo5bobo
3bobo15bobo24b2ob2o$3b2o8bobo5bobo5bo15b2obo25b2ob2o7b2o$5bo23b2o17b3o
27bo2bo3bobo$2bo40b5o3bo24b2o4b2o2bo$3b2o37bo4bo2b2o26bo2bo$41bo2bo29b
2ob2o$38bo2bob2o27b2ob2o8b2o$37bobobo5bo27bo9b2o$38bo2bo4bobo23b3o$41b
2o2bo2bo$46b2o30bob2o$78bobobo$73b2o7bo$74bo7b2o$71b3o$71bo$39b2o$38b
o2bo$38bo2b2o$37bo2b2o$37b4o2$18b2o33b2o11bo$17bobo33bob2o8bobo$17bo35b
o3bo8bo$16b2o5b2o28b2o2bo$15bo2b2o2bo2bo28b3o7b5o$16bobo4bobo29bo8bo4b
o$15b2obo5bo42bo2bo$18bob2o45b2obo$18bo2bo42bo5bob2o$19bo4bo8bo29bobo
4bobo$20b5o7b3o28bo2bo2b2o2bo$31bo2b2o28b2o5b2o$22bo8bo3bo35bo$21bobo
8b2obo33bobo$22bo11b2o33b2o2$48b4o$47b2o2bo$46b2o2bo$47bo2bo$48b2o$17b
o$15b3o$5b2o7bo$6bo7b2o$6bobobo$7b2obo30b2o$40bo2bo2b2o$14b3o23bobo4b
o2bo$2b2o9bo27bo5bobobo$2b2o8b2ob2o27b2obo2bo$10b2ob2o29bo2bo$7bo2bo26b
2o2bo4bo37b2o$2bo2b2o4b2o24bo3b5o40bo$bobo3bo2bo27b3o17b2o23bo$b2o7b2o
b2o25bob2o15bo5bobo5bobo8b2o$12b2ob2o24bobo15bobo3bobo5bobo$10bo2bo46b
2o3bo2bo3bo2bo$bo6b3o3b3o49b3o3b3o2b2o$o2bo6bo56bo2bo2bo5bo$o2bo6b2ob
o54bobobo4b2o$2bo8bobo48b2o4b2ob2ob4o$12bo62bo$2bo59b2o11bo$o2bo59bo5b
obo$o2bo56b3o7bo$bo15bo42bo9bo$16bo2bo$16bo2bo46b2o3bo4b2o3b2o$18bo47b
2o2bobo5bobo$71b2o2bo7bo$76b2o3b2o!
It could also be counted as an H hassler because the blocks from the Bs are eaten by the Herschels
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
[[ STEP 30 ]]
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