Gun Discussion Thread

[Period1GliderGun]

Any ideas on how to make a P29 Herschel factory?( need to turn excess block into ship, the ship can’t form too early)

I have a partial for a DRL but no factory unless you can find a banana sparker:

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x = 34, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
18bo$18b3o$21bo$20b2o$24b2o$23bobo6b2o$25bo6bo$9bo10bo8b2obo$8bo11bo6b
o3bo$11b2o3b2o2bo5bo$9b4o3bobo11bo$8bo2bo2bo3bo8bo$8bo4bo3b2o6bo4bo$2b
2o5bo3bo11b4o2bo$2bobo9bo4b2obo6b3o$3bo15b2ob4o2bo$25bo2b2o$19b2ob3o$
5b2o13bobo$2o2bo2b2o11bobo$2o2b2ob2o12bo$4b2ob2o$6bo9bo$5b2o8b2o$5b2o
8bobo$5b2o!

[Period1GliderGun]

p29 gun partial #2:

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x = 46, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
24bo$13bo8b3o$14bo6bo$13bo2b2obo2bo$16bo5bo2$21bo$18b2o$17b2obo7bo8b2o
$12b2o5bo6b3o5bo2bobob2o$11bobo11bo6b3o4bobo$11bo13b2o4bo6b2obo$10b2o
20bo5bo2b2o$17b2o9bo3bo6b2o2bo$13b2o2b2o4bo16bobo$13b2o7bobobo4bo2b3o
3bob2o$21bobo2bo4bo5b4obo2bo$21b2o3bo4bobo8bob2o$10b2o21bo8bo$10bobo15b
3o2bo4bo2b2o$11bobo$12bo21b3o$12bo3b2o$11bo4bobo$2bo8bo6bo9bo$bobo14b
2o7bobo$2bo4b3o18bo5b2o$9bobo22b2o$11bo3b2o$15bobo$9bo7bo$2o5bobobo5b
2o$2o3b3o3b3o$11b2o$11b2o5b2o$10b3o2b2o2bo$10b2o2bob3o$11b4o$8bo6b4o$
8b6obo2bo$12bobo$10bo$10b2o!

[iNoMed]

Here's a rather unique period-98 glider gun design that relies on a newly found p98 honey farm hassler engine by P1GG, converted into a pseudo-p49 gun then period-doubled into a true p98 gun by me:

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x = 77, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
57bo2bo$56bo$55bo5bo$55bo4b2o$42b6o8bo$42b4o11bo$18b2o18bo6bobo5bob4o$
18b2o16b3o8b2o5bo3bo$35bo8bo2bob2o5bo3bo$35b2o6bo3bob2o5b4obo$11b2o29b
2obo3bo7bo$3b2o6bo2b3o25b2obo2bo9bo$3b2o7bob2o7b2obo7b2o8b2o7b2o4bo7bo
5b2o$22b3o2bo6b2o4bo4bobo5bo5bo8bo4bo2bo$26b2o10b3o6b4o7bo4b2o2bo$2b2o
33bo7b6o3bo2bo4bo2bobob2o$3bo33b2o22bo4b2o2b2o4bo$3o16b2o46b2obobo2bo$
o18b2o49bo2b2o$14b2o37b3o5bo2bo4bo$14bo16b3o3b3o9bo3b2o8b2o5bo$8b2o5bo
10bo21bo4bo$8bo5b2o9bo9bo11b2o$5b2obo16b3o7bo12b2o$5bo2bob2o2b2o14b2o
3bo13bo13b2o5bo$7b2obo3b2o13bobo29bo2bo4bo$10bo18bo40bo2b2o$10b2o16b2o
37b2obobo2bo$61bo4b2o2b2o4bo$b2ob2o39b6o3bo2bo4bo2bobob2o$b2obo42b4o7b
o4b2o2bo$4bo40bobo5bo5bo8bo4bo2bo$4b3o7bobo27b2o7b2o4bo7bo5b2o$2b2o3bo
6bo2bo24b2obo2bo9bo$bo2b4o6bo2bo24b2obo3bo7bo$b2obo11bo3b2o21bo3bob2o
5b4obo$2bo2b3o12bobo21bo2bob2o5bo3bo$2bo5bo13bo24b2o5bo3bo$3b5o14b2o
21bobo5bob4o$5bo36b4o11bo$42b6o8bo$55bo4b2o$55bo5bo$56bo$57bo2bo!

This isn't a reduction as the bounding box (77x45) is larger than the current smallest p98 gun design (76x40).

[Vort]

Did anyone tried glider synthesis of spark for LCM guns before?

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x = 67, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A4.2A$11.A.A2.A.A$13.A2BA12.2A$11.B2A2B2AB2.A2.A4.A$11.3A2B3A2.4A
5.A$12.BA2BAB7.2A2.2A$6.2A6.2B4.A.2A.A.A3.2A$4.A2.A6.B5.2A.ABA.2A.A2.
A$4.2A.A.AB2.2B9.BA2B3.3A28.2A$6.A.2AB.4BA7.2AB4A31.A.A$6.A3.7BA3B2.
6B.A.2A29.AB$5.2A3.6BABA6B.A2BAB.A.A7.4B3.B.9B2.2B$4.A2.2A.7B3A5B2.2A
2B.A.A7.4B.11B2A6B$3.A.A.B.A.6BABA5B3.B2.2A.2A5.2A15BABA4B2A$3.A.AB2A
B5.3BA7B15.2A17BA4B2A$2A.A.ABAB7.4B3.4B15.B.14B3A3B.B$A2.2ABAB16.4B4.
A11.19B$.2A4.AB16.4B3.3A6.3B.A.3B$3.5A18.4B5.A5.2BA3B2A14B$3.A23.4B3.
2A3.3B2ABAB2A9B3A3B.B$5.A22.BABA2.7B2A6BA10BA4B2A$4.2A23.B2AB3.6B2ABA
B2A9BABA4B2A$30.A3B2.7BA3B2A9B2A6B$10.2A19.3B.9B.A.3B.9B2.2B$11.A20.
10B21.AB$9.A23.2A2B2.4B19.A.A$9.5A18.ABAB4.4B18.2A$7.2A4.AB16.3BA6.4B
$6.A2.2A3B16.4B8.4B$6.2A.A.ABAB7.2B2A3.4B10.4B$9.A.2ABAB5.B3ABA5B12.
4B$9.A.A.B.A.4BA2B4A3B3.B2.2A.2A3.4B$10.A2.2A.2B2A2B2A2B3A2B2.2A2B.A.
A5.4B$11.2A3.3B4A3B2A3B.B2A2B.A.A6.4B$12.A3.3BA7B2.4BAB.A.2A8.4B$12.A
.2AB.BA3B7.BAB4A12.4B$10.2A.A.AB2.AB9.2A2B3.3A10.4B$10.A2.A6.B5.2A.AB
A.2A.A2.A11.4B$12.2A6.2A4.A.2A.A.A3.2A13.4B$18.A4BA7.2A2.2A16.4B$17.B
A4BAB2.4A5.A17.4B$17.BA4BAB2.A2.A4.A19.4B$19.A2BA12.2A19.3BA$17.A.A2.
A.A32.3BA$17.2A4.2A33.3AB!

[erictom333]

Did anyone tried glider synthesis of spark for LCM guns before?

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x = 67, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A4.2A$11.A.A2.A.A$13.A2BA12.2A$11.B2A2B2AB2.A2.A4.A$11.3A2B3A2.4A
5.A$12.BA2BAB7.2A2.2A$6.2A6.2B4.A.2A.A.A3.2A$4.A2.A6.B5.2A.ABA.2A.A2.
A$4.2A.A.AB2.2B9.BA2B3.3A28.2A$6.A.2AB.4BA7.2AB4A31.A.A$6.A3.7BA3B2.
6B.A.2A29.AB$5.2A3.6BABA6B.A2BAB.A.A7.4B3.B.9B2.2B$4.A2.2A.7B3A5B2.2A
2B.A.A7.4B.11B2A6B$3.A.A.B.A.6BABA5B3.B2.2A.2A5.2A15BABA4B2A$3.A.AB2A
B5.3BA7B15.2A17BA4B2A$2A.A.ABAB7.4B3.4B15.B.14B3A3B.B$A2.2ABAB16.4B4.
A11.19B$.2A4.AB16.4B3.3A6.3B.A.3B$3.5A18.4B5.A5.2BA3B2A14B$3.A23.4B3.
2A3.3B2ABAB2A9B3A3B.B$5.A22.BABA2.7B2A6BA10BA4B2A$4.2A23.B2AB3.6B2ABA
B2A9BABA4B2A$30.A3B2.7BA3B2A9B2A6B$10.2A19.3B.9B.A.3B.9B2.2B$11.A20.
10B21.AB$9.A23.2A2B2.4B19.A.A$9.5A18.ABAB4.4B18.2A$7.2A4.AB16.3BA6.4B
$6.A2.2A3B16.4B8.4B$6.2A.A.ABAB7.2B2A3.4B10.4B$9.A.2ABAB5.B3ABA5B12.
4B$9.A.A.B.A.4BA2B4A3B3.B2.2A.2A3.4B$10.A2.2A.2B2A2B2A2B3A2B2.2A2B.A.
A5.4B$11.2A3.3B4A3B2A3B.B2A2B.A.A6.4B$12.A3.3BA7B2.4BAB.A.2A8.4B$12.A
.2AB.BA3B7.BAB4A12.4B$10.2A.A.AB2.AB9.2A2B3.3A10.4B$10.A2.A6.B5.2A.AB
A.2A.A2.A11.4B$12.2A6.2A4.A.2A.A.A3.2A13.4B$18.A4BA7.2A2.2A16.4B$17.B
A4BAB2.4A5.A17.4B$17.BA4BAB2.A2.A4.A19.4B$19.A2BA12.2A19.3BA$17.A.A2.
A.A32.3BA$17.2A4.2A33.3AB!

It would be more economical to use one glider + sparky eater.

[Vort]

It would be more economical to use one glider + sparky eater.

If someone finds compatible glider to spark (crotchet) converter, please report it here.

[WhiteHawk]

A p297 gun

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x = 132, y = 74, rule = B3/S23
48b2o32b2o$48b2o32b2o2$80bo$80bo$19bo7bo51bo24bo7bo$19b3o5b3o10bo8b3o
27b2o10bo10b3o5b3o$22bo7bo7b3o8bobo25bo2bo10b3o7bo7bo$21b2o6b2o6bo11b
o27bo2bo13bo6b2o6b2o$37b2o5bo9b2o21bobo13b2o$13b2o9b2o18b2o7b2o32b3o27b
2o$13b2o9bobo18bo59bo11b2o$24bo5b2o55bo2b2o7b2o4b2o$30bob2o7b2o20b2o2b
2o19b3ob2o6b2o2bobo8bo$32bo8bo14b3o4b2o2b2o26b2o3b2o13bo$33bo7b3o14bo
37b2obo14bo$14b3o40b2o11b2ob3o19bo5bo12b2o$14bobo55b2o2bo24b2o9bo2bo$
14bo39bo48bo8bo2bo$9bo9b2o9b2ob3o9b2o7b2o18b3o20bo2bobo9bobo$9b2o7b2o
9b3ob2o9b2o9bo28bobo9bobo2bo20b3o$10bo39bo32bo2bo8bo$48bobo32bo2bo9b2o
24bo2b2o$6b2o40b3o32b2o12bo5bo19b3ob2o$6bo14b3o7bo52bo14bob2o$2o4b3o14b
o8bo50bo13b2o3b2o26b2o$2o20b2o7b2obo48bo8bobo2b2o6b2ob3o19b2o$33b2o5b
o51b2o4b2o7b2o2bo$19bo18bobo9b2o28b2o11bo$10b2o7b2o18b2o9b2o28b2o27b3o
$9b2o9bo5b2o76b2o13bobo$15bo11bo6b2o60b2o6bo13bo2bo$13bobo8b3o7bo51bo
10bo7b3o10bo2bo$13b3o8bo10b3o47bo8b3o10bo10b2o$37bo7bobo37b3o6bo24bo$
46b2o70bo$46bo71bo2$15b2o98b2o$15b2o63bo34b2o$53bo24b2o$54bo24b2o$52b
3o10$89bo$88bobo$88bobo$87b2ob3o$93bo$87b2ob3o$87b2obo6$88b2o$88bobo$
90bo$90b2o$61bob2o$59b3ob2o$58bo$59b3ob2o$61b2o2bo$64b2o!

[PK22]

A p297 gun

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x = 132, y = 74, rule = B3/S23
rle

You can shrink the BB slightly by making the guns share blocks:

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x = 128, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
48b2o28b2o$48b2o28b2o3$51bo28bo$19bo7bo22b2obo21b2o3bo19bo7bo$19b3o5b
3o10bo10bo2bo21b2o9bo10b3o5b3o$22bo7bo7b3o10bo20bobo12b3o7bo7bo$21b2o
6b2o6bo14b3o16bo2bo9bo5bo6b2o6b2o$37b2o33bo3bo3bo2bobo3b2o$13b2o26bobo
30bobo2b3o13bo17b2o$13b2o17bo7bo2bo29bo2bo2b2obob2o7b5o15b2o$26b2o3bob
o9bo23b2o3b3o12bo5b2o5b2o$26bobo10b4o20b2o8b2o6b3o2b2o7bo$16bo9bo4b2ob
2o4bo22b2o21bo9bo4bo13bo$15b2obo13bo2bo23bo9bo23b2o4b2o9b2o3bo$16bo2bo
11b3ob2o20b4o7b2o2b3o6b2o9bob4o13b2o$16bo13bo2b3o20bo11bo12b3o8bo2bobo
9bobo$17b3o10bob3o21bo2bo10b2obob2o2bo2bo23bo2bo9bo$30bo2bo22bobo15b3o
2bobo25bo3bo3bo2bobo$6bobo22bo2bo35bobo2bo3bo3bo25bobo2b3o$5bo2bo21b3o
bo10b3o23bo9bo2bo23bo2bo2b2obob2o$8bo20b3o2bo13bo32bobo9bobo2bo8b3o12b
o$4b4o20b2ob3o11bo2bo29b2o13b4obo9b2o6b3o2b2o$5bo23bo2bo13bob2o25bo3b
2o9b2o4b2o23bo$2o22bo4b2ob2o4bo9bo26bo13bo4bo9bo21b2o$2o20b4o10bobo56b
o7b2o2b3o6b2o8b2o$21bo9bobo3b2o50b2o5b2o5bo12b3o3b2o$21bo2bo7bo17b2o
24b2o15b5o7b2obob2o2bo2bo$21bobo26b2o24b2o17bo13b3o2bobo$26b2o56bo15b
2o3bobo2bo3bo3bo$10b3o14bo6b2o47bo8b2o6bo5bo9bo2bo$13bo10b3o7bo8bobo
37b3o7bo7b3o12bobo$10bo2bo10bo10b3o6b2o44b3o10bo9b2o$11bob2o22bo6bo45b
o19bo3b2o$13bo96bo2$78bo$15b2o34bo24b2o33b2o$15b2o35bo24b2o32b2o$50b3o
10$87bo$86bobo$86bobo$85b2ob3o$91bo$85b2ob3o$85b2obo6$86b2o$86bobo$88b
o$88b2o$59bob2o$57b3ob2o$56bo$57b3ob2o$59b2o2bo$62b2o!