Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

[TheWayOfTheCon]

I am fairly certain that that reaction is known, having witnessed it myself a couple of times before. However, the way you discovered it allows for this useless oscillator partial:

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x = 34, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
2o30b2o$obo28bobo$2bo28bo$2b2o26b2o$4bo24bo$2b3o24b3o$bo30bo$b2o8b2o8b
2o8b2o$10bo2bo6bo2bo$11b2o8b2o$14bo4bo3$14bo4bo$11b2o8b2o$10bo2bo6bo2b
o$b2o8b2o8b2o8b2o$bo30bo$2b3o24b3o$4bo24bo$2b2o26b2o$2bo28bo$obo28bob
o$2o30b2o!

So how do we make it into an oscillator?

I'm not sure we could. The only thing that's missing to make this oscillator work are four dots surrounded by the beehives.

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x = 34, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
2A30.2A$A.A28.A.A$2.A28.A$2.2A26.2A$4.A24.A$2.3A24.3A$.A30.A$.2A8.2A8.
2A8.2A$10.A2.A6.A2.A$11.2A8.2A$14.C4.C3$14.C4.C$11.2A8.2A$10.A2.A6.A2.
A$.2A8.2A8.2A8.2A$.A30.A$2.3A24.3A$4.A24.A$2.2A26.2A$2.A28.A$A.A28.A.
A$2A30.2A!

I'm not well versed in Life oscillator construction, but I'm almost certain there isn't a way to create those dots without also disturbing the beehives. Everything's just too close to each other.

[Termite]

I am fairly certain that that reaction is known, having witnessed it myself a couple of times before. However, the way you discovered it allows for this useless oscillator partial:

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x = 34, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
2o30b2o$obo28bobo$2bo28bo$2b2o26b2o$4bo24bo$2b3o24b3o$bo30bo$b2o8b2o8b
2o8b2o$10bo2bo6bo2bo$11b2o8b2o$14bo4bo3$14bo4bo$11b2o8b2o$10bo2bo6bo2b
o$b2o8b2o8b2o8b2o$bo30bo$2b3o24b3o$4bo24bo$2b2o26b2o$2bo28bo$obo28bob
o$2o30b2o!

So how do we make it into an oscillator?

I'm not sure we could. The only thing that's missing to make this oscillator work are four dots surrounded by the beehives.

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x = 34, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
2A30.2A$A.A28.A.A$2.A28.A$2.2A26.2A$4.A24.A$2.3A24.3A$.A30.A$.2A8.2A8.
2A8.2A$10.A2.A6.A2.A$11.2A8.2A$14.C4.C3$14.C4.C$11.2A8.2A$10.A2.A6.A2.
A$.2A8.2A8.2A8.2A$.A30.A$2.3A24.3A$4.A24.A$2.2A26.2A$2.A28.A$A.A28.A.
A$2A30.2A!

I'm not well versed in Life oscillator construction, but I'm almost certain there isn't a way to create those dots without also disturbing the beehives. Everything's just too close to each other.

Glider synthesis?

[Termite]

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x = 3, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o4$b2o$obo$obo$bo!

This probably exists already but I posted it here

[LuveelVoom]

Glider synthesis?

This might end up being the only viable option. There just might be some sort of glider collision edgy enough to fit those dots in; I have no idea how to find it, though.

EDIT: looking more closely at it, this seems completely impossible. There's only a four-cell wide strip to fit a spark in without interacting with anything; I don't think any sparks are edgy enough to work.

[Termite]

Glider synthesis?

This might end up being the only viable option. There just might be some sort of glider collision edgy enough to fit those dots in; I have no idea how to find it, though.

EDIT: looking more closely at it, this seems completely impossible. There's only a four-cell wide strip to fit a spark in without interacting with anything; I don't think any sparks are edgy enough to work.

gg

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Glider synthesis?

This might end up being the only viable option. There just might be some sort of glider collision edgy enough to fit those dots in; I have no idea how to find it, though.

EDIT: looking more closely at it, this seems completely impossible. There's only a four-cell wide strip to fit a spark in without interacting with anything; I don't think any sparks are edgy enough to work.

gg

Okay... I shall unleash my army of gliders at it.

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x = 136, y = 118, rule = B3/S23
133bo$133bobo$133b2o4$5bo$3bobo$4b2o2$13bo80bobo$11bobo80b2o$12b2o81bo
3$122bobo$122b2o$123bo$126bo$126bobo$126b2o$15bobo$16b2o$16bo12$38bo$
36bobo$37b2o$83bo$81b3o$80bo$75b2o4bo$75b3ob2obo$75b2obobobo$81bo$78b
3o$77b3o$77b3o$77b3o$78bo4$44bo11bo$42bobo9b2o7b2o6b2o$43b2o10b2o5bo2b
o4bo2bo$63b2o6b2o3b2o$76b2o3$58b2o$58b2o3b2o6b2o$62bo2bo4bo2bo5b2o10b
2o$63b2o6b2o7b2o9bobo$79bo11bo4$57bo$56b3o$56b3o$56b3o$55b3o$54bo$53bo
bobob2o$53bob2ob3o$54bo4b2o$55bo$52b3o$52bo$97b2o$97bobo$97bo12$119bo$
118b2o$118bobo$8b2o$7bobo$9bo$12bo$12b2o$11bobo3$40bo81b2o$40b2o80bobo
$39bobo80bo2$130b2o$130bobo$130bo4$b2o$obo$2bo!

[Termite]

This might end up being the only viable option. There just might be some sort of glider collision edgy enough to fit those dots in; I have no idea how to find it, though.

EDIT: looking more closely at it, this seems completely impossible. There's only a four-cell wide strip to fit a spark in without interacting with anything; I don't think any sparks are edgy enough to work.

gg

Okay... I shall unleash my army of gliders at it.

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x = 136, y = 118, rule = B3/S23
133bo$133bobo$133b2o4$5bo$3bobo$4b2o2$13bo80bobo$11bobo80b2o$12b2o81bo
3$122bobo$122b2o$123bo$126bo$126bobo$126b2o$15bobo$16b2o$16bo12$38bo$
36bobo$37b2o$83bo$81b3o$80bo$75b2o4bo$75b3ob2obo$75b2obobobo$81bo$78b
3o$77b3o$77b3o$77b3o$78bo4$44bo11bo$42bobo9b2o7b2o6b2o$43b2o10b2o5bo2b
o4bo2bo$63b2o6b2o3b2o$76b2o3$58b2o$58b2o3b2o6b2o$62bo2bo4bo2bo5b2o10b
2o$63b2o6b2o7b2o9bobo$79bo11bo4$57bo$56b3o$56b3o$56b3o$55b3o$54bo$53bo
bobob2o$53bob2ob3o$54bo4b2o$55bo$52b3o$52bo$97b2o$97bobo$97bo12$119bo$
118b2o$118bobo$8b2o$7bobo$9bo$12bo$12b2o$11bobo3$40bo81b2o$40b2o80bobo
$39bobo80bo2$130b2o$130bobo$130bo4$b2o$obo$2bo!

Also, make this into an actual oscillator it'll be cool
Also also, I have an idea called a flexible gun. Flexible guns are guns that launch predecessors that turn into gliders so that gliders don't collide with other guns easily. I think this might be the only option here.

[I6_I6]

[...]
Also, make this into an actual oscillator it'll be cool
Also also, I have an idea called a flexible gun. Flexible guns are guns that launch predecessors that turn into gliders so that gliders don't collide with other guns easily. I think this might be the only option here.

There's already a ton of really good edgeshooting components out there, so there's no need for anything like that (although your description is sort of like an edgeshooter).

[Termite]

[...]
Also, make this into an actual oscillator it'll be cool
Also also, I have an idea called a flexible gun. Flexible guns are guns that launch predecessors that turn into gliders so that gliders don't collide with other guns easily. I think this might be the only option here.

There's already a ton of really good edgeshooting components out there, so there's no need for anything like that (although your description is sort of like an edgeshooter).

I mean like this

[I6_I6]

[...]
Also, make this into an actual oscillator it'll be cool
Also also, I have an idea called a flexible gun. Flexible guns are guns that launch predecessors that turn into gliders so that gliders don't collide with other guns easily. I think this might be the only option here.

There's already a ton of really good edgeshooting components out there, so there's no need for anything like that (although your description is sort of like an edgeshooter).

I mean like this
[...]

Looking at your diagrams, I think your idea of a "flexible" gun is basically what I meant by an edgeshooter. From what I understand, this is sort of what your "flexible" diagram represents:

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x = 96, y = 92, rule = LifeHistory
25.A$25.3A$28.A$27.2A$27.4B$29.3B$28.5B$28.5B$27.7B$27.7B$27.2A3B2A$27.
B5AB$27.B2AB2AB7.2B.4B$27.B2AB2AB4.11B$17.2BA3B5.B3AB4.3B2A7B$10.B4.4B
4A2B3.5B4.3B2A7B$9.2AB.7B4A3B.5B5.11B$9.2A9BA2BA10B3.B.10B$10.4BA5B4A
29B$10.4BA4B4A32B$12.B4.2BA3B4.29B$27.30B$27.31B$26.33B$25.7B.10B.16B
$24.19B2.2B.8B.4B$23.12B4.3B6.7B3.BABA$22.4B.6B17.4B5.B2A$21.4B3.4B19.
4B5.A$5.3B12.4B25.A.A.A.A$5.3B2A2.A6.4B3.A7.AB12.A.2A.2A.A$4.2A2B2A3B
A4.4B3.A.A5.B2A12.A3.A3.A$4.2A7BA3.4B3.2BAB5.2ABAB9.2A3.A.2A$5.B2.B4A
3.5B2.B.2B5.A2B3A15.A$10.3B2.5B.6B4.A.ABAB14.A.A5.A$4.A8.5B3.B3A2B2.B
ABA.A16.2A6.3A$4.3A5.5B4.B2ABA2B3A2BA28.A$7.A4.4B6.2B2AB.BAB2A28.2A$6.
2A3.4B3.A3.6B2.2AB28.4B$6.8B3.A.A4.4B2.BA31.3B$2.2A4.5B4.A.A3.B2A2B34.
5B$.A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A36.5B$.A.2AB2.5B8.A39.7B$2A.B.B3.5B7.A39.7B$A2.
2A2B2.5B4.BA.2A38.2A3B2A$.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A37.B5AB$3.2ABA4B2A6B3.2A37.
B2AB2AB7.2B.4B$.2A2.A5B2A6B8.2B32.B2AB2AB4.11B$A2.A2.5BA7B6.6B20.2BA3B
5.B3AB4.3B2A7B$.2A3.5BA2BA5B3.10B11.B4.4B4A2B3.5B4.3B2A7B$7.4BA3BA4B.
BA2BAB2ABA2BAB8.2AB.7B4A3B.5B5.11B$7.7BA7B4AB2AB4AB8.2A9BA2BA10B3.B.10B
$7.B2A12BA2BAB2ABA2BAB9.4BA5B4A29B$5.2ABA10B.B2.10B11.4BA4B4A32B$5.A2B
2.9B6.6B15.B4.2BA3B4.29B$6.A3.8B9.2B32.30B$3.3A5.6B44.31B$3.A9.3B44.33B
$59.7B.10B.16B$58.19B2.2B.8B.4B$57.12B4.3B6.7B3.BABA$56.4B.6B17.4B5.B
2A$55.4B3.4B19.4B5.A$39.3B12.4B25.A.A.A.A$39.3B2A2.A6.4B3.A7.AB12.A.2A
.2A.A$38.2A2B2A3BA4.4B3.A.A5.B2A12.A3.A3.A$38.2A7BA3.4B3.2BAB5.2ABAB9.
2A3.A.2A$39.B2.B4A3.5B2.B.2B5.A2B3A15.A$44.3B2.5B.6B4.A.ABAB14.A.A$38.
A8.5B3.B3A2B2.BABA.A16.2A$38.3A5.5B4.B2ABA2B3A2BA$41.A4.4B6.2B2AB.BAB
2A$40.2A3.4B3.A3.6B2.2AB$40.8B3.A.A4.4B2.BA$36.2A4.5B4.A.A3.B2A2B$35.
A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A$35.A.2AB2.5B8.A$34.2A.B.B3.5B7.A$34.A2.2A2B2.5B4.
BA.2A$35.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A$37.2ABA4B2A6B3.2A$35.2A2.A5B2A6B8.2B$34.A2.
A2.5BA7B6.6B$35.2A3.5BA2BA5B3.10B$41.4BA3BA4B.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$41.7BA7B
4AB2AB4AB$41.B2A12BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$39.2ABA10B.B2.10B$39.A2B2.9B6.6B$40.
A3.8B9.2B$37.3A5.6B$37.A9.3B!

And this is your non-flexible diagram:

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x = 83, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory
3.A9.3B$3.3A5.6B$6.A3.8B9.2B$5.2AB2.9B6.6B$5.9B3A2B.B2.10B$7.4B3AB2A5B
A2BAB2ABA2BAB$7.4B5A6B4AB2AB4A2B$7.4BA2B2A4B.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$.2A3.6B2A
6B3.10B$A2.A2.13B6.6B$.2A2.A13B8.2B$3.2ABA12B3.2A$.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A$A
2.2A2B2.5B4.BA.2A$2A.B.B3.5B7.A$.A.2AB2.5B8.A$.A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A$2.
2A4.5B4.A.A3.B2A2B$6.8B3.A.A4.4B2.2A$6.2A3.3BA3.A3.6B2.3B$7.A4.ABAB6.
5B.A3BA$4.3A5.B2A2B4.7BA4BA$4.A8.5B3.3B3A2.BABA.A$10.2AB2.5B.3BA2B4.A
.ABAB$5.B2.2B3A3.5B2.B.2B5.A4BA$4.2A2BA2BABA3.4B3.2BAB5.A3BA$4.2A2B2A
2B2A4.4B3.A.A5.3B$5.3B2A2.B6.4B3.A7.2A$5.3B12.4B$21.4B$22.4B$23.4B$24.
4B$25.4B$26.3BA$27.ABA$28.2A15$48.A9.3B$48.3A5.6B$51.A3.8B9.2B$50.2AB
2.9B6.6B$50.9B3A2B.B2.10B$52.4B3AB2A5BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$52.4B5A6B4AB2AB4A
2B$52.4BA2B2A4B.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$46.2A3.6B2A6B3.10B$45.A2.A2.13B6.6B$46.
2A2.A13B8.2B$48.2ABA12B3.2A$46.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A$45.A2.2A2B2.5B4.BA.2A
$45.2A.B.B3.5B7.A$46.A.2AB2.5B8.A$46.A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A$47.2A4.5B4.A
.A3.B2A2B$51.8B3.A.A4.4B2.2A$51.2A3.3BA3.A3.6B2.3B$52.A4.ABAB6.5B.A3B
A$49.3A5.B2A2B4.7BA4BA$49.A8.5B3.3B3A2.BABA.A$55.2AB2.5B.3BA2B4.A.ABA
B$50.B2.2B3A3.5B2.B.2B5.A4BA$49.2A2BA2BABA3.4B3.2BAB5.A3BA$49.2A2B2A2B
2A4.4B3.A.A5.3B$50.3B2A2.B6.4B3.A7.2A$50.3B12.4B$66.4B$67.4B$68.4B$69.
4B$70.4B$71.3BA$72.ABA$73.2A!

Whether this is what you meant by flexible or not, it'll have the same effect, so there's no need for any new technology here.

[Termite]

There's already a ton of really good edgeshooting components out there, so there's no need for anything like that (although your description is sort of like an edgeshooter).

I mean like this
[...]

Looking at your diagrams, I think your idea of a "flexible" gun is basically what I meant by an edgeshooter. From what I understand, this is sort of what your "flexible" diagram represents:

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x = 96, y = 92, rule = LifeHistory
25.A$25.3A$28.A$27.2A$27.4B$29.3B$28.5B$28.5B$27.7B$27.7B$27.2A3B2A$27.
B5AB$27.B2AB2AB7.2B.4B$27.B2AB2AB4.11B$17.2BA3B5.B3AB4.3B2A7B$10.B4.4B
4A2B3.5B4.3B2A7B$9.2AB.7B4A3B.5B5.11B$9.2A9BA2BA10B3.B.10B$10.4BA5B4A
29B$10.4BA4B4A32B$12.B4.2BA3B4.29B$27.30B$27.31B$26.33B$25.7B.10B.16B
$24.19B2.2B.8B.4B$23.12B4.3B6.7B3.BABA$22.4B.6B17.4B5.B2A$21.4B3.4B19.
4B5.A$5.3B12.4B25.A.A.A.A$5.3B2A2.A6.4B3.A7.AB12.A.2A.2A.A$4.2A2B2A3B
A4.4B3.A.A5.B2A12.A3.A3.A$4.2A7BA3.4B3.2BAB5.2ABAB9.2A3.A.2A$5.B2.B4A
3.5B2.B.2B5.A2B3A15.A$10.3B2.5B.6B4.A.ABAB14.A.A5.A$4.A8.5B3.B3A2B2.B
ABA.A16.2A6.3A$4.3A5.5B4.B2ABA2B3A2BA28.A$7.A4.4B6.2B2AB.BAB2A28.2A$6.
2A3.4B3.A3.6B2.2AB28.4B$6.8B3.A.A4.4B2.BA31.3B$2.2A4.5B4.A.A3.B2A2B34.
5B$.A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A36.5B$.A.2AB2.5B8.A39.7B$2A.B.B3.5B7.A39.7B$A2.
2A2B2.5B4.BA.2A38.2A3B2A$.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A37.B5AB$3.2ABA4B2A6B3.2A37.
B2AB2AB7.2B.4B$.2A2.A5B2A6B8.2B32.B2AB2AB4.11B$A2.A2.5BA7B6.6B20.2BA3B
5.B3AB4.3B2A7B$.2A3.5BA2BA5B3.10B11.B4.4B4A2B3.5B4.3B2A7B$7.4BA3BA4B.
BA2BAB2ABA2BAB8.2AB.7B4A3B.5B5.11B$7.7BA7B4AB2AB4AB8.2A9BA2BA10B3.B.10B
$7.B2A12BA2BAB2ABA2BAB9.4BA5B4A29B$5.2ABA10B.B2.10B11.4BA4B4A32B$5.A2B
2.9B6.6B15.B4.2BA3B4.29B$6.A3.8B9.2B32.30B$3.3A5.6B44.31B$3.A9.3B44.33B
$59.7B.10B.16B$58.19B2.2B.8B.4B$57.12B4.3B6.7B3.BABA$56.4B.6B17.4B5.B
2A$55.4B3.4B19.4B5.A$39.3B12.4B25.A.A.A.A$39.3B2A2.A6.4B3.A7.AB12.A.2A
.2A.A$38.2A2B2A3BA4.4B3.A.A5.B2A12.A3.A3.A$38.2A7BA3.4B3.2BAB5.2ABAB9.
2A3.A.2A$39.B2.B4A3.5B2.B.2B5.A2B3A15.A$44.3B2.5B.6B4.A.ABAB14.A.A$38.
A8.5B3.B3A2B2.BABA.A16.2A$38.3A5.5B4.B2ABA2B3A2BA$41.A4.4B6.2B2AB.BAB
2A$40.2A3.4B3.A3.6B2.2AB$40.8B3.A.A4.4B2.BA$36.2A4.5B4.A.A3.B2A2B$35.
A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A$35.A.2AB2.5B8.A$34.2A.B.B3.5B7.A$34.A2.2A2B2.5B4.
BA.2A$35.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A$37.2ABA4B2A6B3.2A$35.2A2.A5B2A6B8.2B$34.A2.
A2.5BA7B6.6B$35.2A3.5BA2BA5B3.10B$41.4BA3BA4B.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$41.7BA7B
4AB2AB4AB$41.B2A12BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$39.2ABA10B.B2.10B$39.A2B2.9B6.6B$40.
A3.8B9.2B$37.3A5.6B$37.A9.3B!

And this is your non-flexible diagram:

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x = 83, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory
3.A9.3B$3.3A5.6B$6.A3.8B9.2B$5.2AB2.9B6.6B$5.9B3A2B.B2.10B$7.4B3AB2A5B
A2BAB2ABA2BAB$7.4B5A6B4AB2AB4A2B$7.4BA2B2A4B.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$.2A3.6B2A
6B3.10B$A2.A2.13B6.6B$.2A2.A13B8.2B$3.2ABA12B3.2A$.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A$A
2.2A2B2.5B4.BA.2A$2A.B.B3.5B7.A$.A.2AB2.5B8.A$.A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A$2.
2A4.5B4.A.A3.B2A2B$6.8B3.A.A4.4B2.2A$6.2A3.3BA3.A3.6B2.3B$7.A4.ABAB6.
5B.A3BA$4.3A5.B2A2B4.7BA4BA$4.A8.5B3.3B3A2.BABA.A$10.2AB2.5B.3BA2B4.A
.ABAB$5.B2.2B3A3.5B2.B.2B5.A4BA$4.2A2BA2BABA3.4B3.2BAB5.A3BA$4.2A2B2A
2B2A4.4B3.A.A5.3B$5.3B2A2.B6.4B3.A7.2A$5.3B12.4B$21.4B$22.4B$23.4B$24.
4B$25.4B$26.3BA$27.ABA$28.2A15$48.A9.3B$48.3A5.6B$51.A3.8B9.2B$50.2AB
2.9B6.6B$50.9B3A2B.B2.10B$52.4B3AB2A5BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$52.4B5A6B4AB2AB4A
2B$52.4BA2B2A4B.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$46.2A3.6B2A6B3.10B$45.A2.A2.13B6.6B$46.
2A2.A13B8.2B$48.2ABA12B3.2A$46.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A$45.A2.2A2B2.5B4.BA.2A
$45.2A.B.B3.5B7.A$46.A.2AB2.5B8.A$46.A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A$47.2A4.5B4.A
.A3.B2A2B$51.8B3.A.A4.4B2.2A$51.2A3.3BA3.A3.6B2.3B$52.A4.ABAB6.5B.A3B
A$49.3A5.B2A2B4.7BA4BA$49.A8.5B3.3B3A2.BABA.A$55.2AB2.5B.3BA2B4.A.ABA
B$50.B2.2B3A3.5B2.B.2B5.A4BA$49.2A2BA2BABA3.4B3.2BAB5.A3BA$49.2A2B2A2B
2A4.4B3.A.A5.3B$50.3B2A2.B6.4B3.A7.2A$50.3B12.4B$66.4B$67.4B$68.4B$69.
4B$70.4B$71.3BA$72.ABA$73.2A!

Whether this is what you meant by flexible or not, it'll have the same effect, so there's no need for any new technology here.

now i will build the double pentadecathlon thingy

EDIT: flexible gun ain't flexing

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x = 541, y = 538, rule = B3/S23
84b2o3bo$82b3obobobo$81bo4bobobo$81bobobobobo7b2o$72b2o2b2o4b2obobo9bo
$72b2o3bo8bobo6bobo$77bobo7bo6b3o$78b2o14bo$71b2obo17b3o$57b2o13bobo
14bo$57b2o14bo$72b2o13b5o$72b2o14bo2bo$60bo11b2o17b2o$59bo30b3o$59bo$
82bo$80b3o$55b2o3b2o17bo$58bo21b3o2b2o$55bo5bo20bo3bo5bo$56b2ob2o22b3o
6bo$57bobo16bo8bobo3b3o$58bo17b2o8b2o$58bo19bo2b2o$41b2o29bo4b2o2b2o8b
3o$42bo28bobo18bo$42bobo5bobo19bo19bo$43b2o5bo2bo38bo$53b2o21b3o13bo$
25bo25bo3b2o22bo11b3o$25b3o25b2o20bo3bo$28bo21bo2bo20bobo2bo$27b2o21bo
bo19bo2bobo13b3o$72bo3bo15bo$72bo19bo$73b3o3$27b2o3b2o$27b2o3b2o21b2o$
55b2o$29b3o$29b3o$18b2o10bo9b2o$18b2o20b2o$9b2o3bo6b2o$9bobo3bo5b3o49b
o$10b5o6b2o48b3o$11b3o4b2o50bo$18b2o51bo$70b2o3b2o$72b2o2bo$40b2o28b2o
2b2o$71bobo$60bo9bo2bo$58bobo10b2o$59b2o2$6b2o41bobobobo12bo$5b3o18bo
21bob2ob2obo9bobo$4bobo2bo2b2o11bobo6bo13bo3bo3bo10b2o$4b2o2b2o2b2o11b
2o6bobo11b2o3bob2o$8b2o15b2o5bo3bo16bo$24b2o5bo3bo15bobo$4bo18b2o5bo3b
o16b2o$4b3o17b2o3bo3bo$7bo17bo4bobo$6b2o10bo12bo$17bobo$2b2o13bobo4b2o
$bo2bo11b2ob2o3b2o$bob2o16bo$2o19bo$o2b2o14bob2o$b2o2bo13b2o2bo$3b2obo
15b2o$b2o2bo4b3o56bo$o2bo6b2obo55b3o$b2o5bob2obo9b2o6b2o39bo$7b2o3b3o
7bo2bo4bo2bo37b2o$7b2o12b6o2b6o$8b2o12bo2bo4bo2bo40bo$23b2o6b2o40bobo$
5b2o65bo3bo$6bo66b3o$3b3o65b2o3b2o$3bo4$62bo21b2o$60bobo21b2o$53b2o4bo
bo$53b2o3bo2bo$59bobo$60bobo$62bo10b2o$72b3o$72bo2bo$73b2o6$93bobobobo
$49b4o17bo21bob2ob2obo$48bo7b2o11bobo20bo3bo3bo$48bo3b2o2b2o12bo6b3o
11b2o3bob2o$49bo2b2o15bo7b3o17bo$68bobo6b3o15bobo$48bo8bo9bo6b3o18b2o$
48b3o6bobo8bobo3b3o$51bo5bobo9bo4b3o$50b2o10bo57bo$61bobo54bobo$46b2o
13bobo4b2o49b2o$45bo2bo11b2ob2o3b2o$45bob2o16bo62bo$44b2o19bo60bobo$
44bo2b2o14bob2o60b2o$45b2o2bo13b2o2bo$47b2obo15b2o$45b2o2bo$44bo2bo8b
3o$45b2o8bo$54bo3bo6bo2b2o4b2o2bo$54bo3bo5bo3b3o2b3o3bo$54bo10bo2b2o4b
2o2bo$55bo3bo70bobo$49b2o5bo2bo71b2o$50bo7bo72bo$47b3o$47bo41$180bo$
178bobo$179b2o2$188bo$186bobo$187b2o54$240bo$238bobo$239b2o2$248bo$
246bobo$247b2o54$300bo$298bobo$299b2o2$308bo$306bobo$307b2o54$360bo$
358bobo$359b2o2$368bo$366bobo$367b2o54$420bo$418bobo$419b2o2$428bo$
426bobo$427b2o54$480bo$478bobo$479b2o2$488bo$486bobo$487b2o54$540bo$
538bobo$539b2o!

[Termite]

new puffer maybe i call this the pine tree or "Thorny"

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x = 92, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
23bo$20b4o2$37b3o2$23bobo12b2o$24bo13b2o$22b2o13bo2bo$22bo2bo11bo$21b
2ob2o10b3o$36b2o$39b2o$38bo2bo$27bo$27bo8b2o$27bo2b3o3bo2bo$24b2o7bo3b
3o14b2o$24b2o7bo20b2o15bo$24b2o4b2o38b3o$29b3o37bobobo$bo25b2ob2o36b3o
b3o14bo$bo7bo17bo3bo37bobobo13b2obo$bo5b3o17bo2bo39b3o4b2o9bob2o$2o3bo
bo20bo37b3o2bo5b2o11bo$6bo2bo6b3o28b2o20bo$5bo2b2o6b3o27bobo17bo3bo$
47bo19bo2bo$13b3o4b3o46b2o$20bo2bo41b5o$19bo44b4obo$15bo2b3obo41b2o3b
2o$15bo2b4o46bo$15bo45b2o3bo$16b2o43b2obobo$62b2o3bo$61bo4bo$9b2o3b2o
26b2o21bo$3bo3b4o3bobo25b2o17bo2bo$3bob2o2bo2bo3bo45bo4bo$3bob2o4bo3b
2o49bobo$7bo3bo53b2ob2o$12bo52b2obo$36b2o30bo12b2o$36b2o25b2o3bo11bobo
$50b2o11b2o16bo$50b2o15b2o$25bo40b3o$24bobo$24b2o2$44b2o$44b2o15b2o$
61bobo$62bo$16b2o$16b2o$79b2o$78bobo$79bo3$32b2obobo13b2o$32b3o3bo12bo
bo$34bo8b2o7bo$29b2o2bo3bo5b2o$28b3o5bo3b2o$23bobo2b2o2b2obo3b3o4bo$
23bo2bob2o4bo3bo6b2o$20bo2bo4bo2bo7b5ob2o27b2o$19b3o2bo2b4o9bo33b2o$
18bobobo2b3o2bo$17b3ob3o$18bobobo$19b3o$20bo47b2o$68b2o2$22b2o$22b2o
33bo$56bobo$43bo12b2o$42bobo$42b2o5$21bo$21b2o$20bo$21b3o$22bo!

[WhiteHawk]

new puffer maybe i call this the pine tree or "Thorny"

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This is just a variant of Noah's ark, which refers to the set of these sorts of two switch engine combos which aren't usually interesting on their own.

[LuveelVoom]

new puffer maybe i call this the pine tree or "Thorny"

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x = 92, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
23bo$20b4o2$37b3o2$23bobo12b2o$24bo13b2o$22b2o13bo2bo$22bo2bo11bo$21b
2ob2o10b3o$36b2o$39b2o$38bo2bo$27bo$27bo8b2o$27bo2b3o3bo2bo$24b2o7bo3b
3o14b2o$24b2o7bo20b2o15bo$24b2o4b2o38b3o$29b3o37bobobo$bo25b2ob2o36b3o
b3o14bo$bo7bo17bo3bo37bobobo13b2obo$bo5b3o17bo2bo39b3o4b2o9bob2o$2o3bo
bo20bo37b3o2bo5b2o11bo$6bo2bo6b3o28b2o20bo$5bo2b2o6b3o27bobo17bo3bo$
47bo19bo2bo$13b3o4b3o46b2o$20bo2bo41b5o$19bo44b4obo$15bo2b3obo41b2o3b
2o$15bo2b4o46bo$15bo45b2o3bo$16b2o43b2obobo$62b2o3bo$61bo4bo$9b2o3b2o
26b2o21bo$3bo3b4o3bobo25b2o17bo2bo$3bob2o2bo2bo3bo45bo4bo$3bob2o4bo3b
2o49bobo$7bo3bo53b2ob2o$12bo52b2obo$36b2o30bo12b2o$36b2o25b2o3bo11bobo
$50b2o11b2o16bo$50b2o15b2o$25bo40b3o$24bobo$24b2o2$44b2o$44b2o15b2o$
61bobo$62bo$16b2o$16b2o$79b2o$78bobo$79bo3$32b2obobo13b2o$32b3o3bo12bo
bo$34bo8b2o7bo$29b2o2bo3bo5b2o$28b3o5bo3b2o$23bobo2b2o2b2obo3b3o4bo$
23bo2bob2o4bo3bo6b2o$20bo2bo4bo2bo7b5ob2o27b2o$19b3o2bo2b4o9bo33b2o$
18bobobo2b3o2bo$17b3ob3o$18bobobo$19b3o$20bo47b2o$68b2o2$22b2o$22b2o
33bo$56bobo$43bo12b2o$42bobo$42b2o5$21bo$21b2o$20bo$21b3o$22bo!

This is comprised of two copies of the Glider-producing Switch Engine.

[Termite]

There's already a ton of really good edgeshooting components out there, so there's no need for anything like that (although your description is sort of like an edgeshooter).

I mean like this
[...]

Looking at your diagrams, I think your idea of a "flexible" gun is basically what I meant by an edgeshooter. From what I understand, this is sort of what your "flexible" diagram represents:

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x = 96, y = 92, rule = LifeHistory
25.A$25.3A$28.A$27.2A$27.4B$29.3B$28.5B$28.5B$27.7B$27.7B$27.2A3B2A$27.
B5AB$27.B2AB2AB7.2B.4B$27.B2AB2AB4.11B$17.2BA3B5.B3AB4.3B2A7B$10.B4.4B
4A2B3.5B4.3B2A7B$9.2AB.7B4A3B.5B5.11B$9.2A9BA2BA10B3.B.10B$10.4BA5B4A
29B$10.4BA4B4A32B$12.B4.2BA3B4.29B$27.30B$27.31B$26.33B$25.7B.10B.16B
$24.19B2.2B.8B.4B$23.12B4.3B6.7B3.BABA$22.4B.6B17.4B5.B2A$21.4B3.4B19.
4B5.A$5.3B12.4B25.A.A.A.A$5.3B2A2.A6.4B3.A7.AB12.A.2A.2A.A$4.2A2B2A3B
A4.4B3.A.A5.B2A12.A3.A3.A$4.2A7BA3.4B3.2BAB5.2ABAB9.2A3.A.2A$5.B2.B4A
3.5B2.B.2B5.A2B3A15.A$10.3B2.5B.6B4.A.ABAB14.A.A5.A$4.A8.5B3.B3A2B2.B
ABA.A16.2A6.3A$4.3A5.5B4.B2ABA2B3A2BA28.A$7.A4.4B6.2B2AB.BAB2A28.2A$6.
2A3.4B3.A3.6B2.2AB28.4B$6.8B3.A.A4.4B2.BA31.3B$2.2A4.5B4.A.A3.B2A2B34.
5B$.A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A36.5B$.A.2AB2.5B8.A39.7B$2A.B.B3.5B7.A39.7B$A2.
2A2B2.5B4.BA.2A38.2A3B2A$.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A37.B5AB$3.2ABA4B2A6B3.2A37.
B2AB2AB7.2B.4B$.2A2.A5B2A6B8.2B32.B2AB2AB4.11B$A2.A2.5BA7B6.6B20.2BA3B
5.B3AB4.3B2A7B$.2A3.5BA2BA5B3.10B11.B4.4B4A2B3.5B4.3B2A7B$7.4BA3BA4B.
BA2BAB2ABA2BAB8.2AB.7B4A3B.5B5.11B$7.7BA7B4AB2AB4AB8.2A9BA2BA10B3.B.10B
$7.B2A12BA2BAB2ABA2BAB9.4BA5B4A29B$5.2ABA10B.B2.10B11.4BA4B4A32B$5.A2B
2.9B6.6B15.B4.2BA3B4.29B$6.A3.8B9.2B32.30B$3.3A5.6B44.31B$3.A9.3B44.33B
$59.7B.10B.16B$58.19B2.2B.8B.4B$57.12B4.3B6.7B3.BABA$56.4B.6B17.4B5.B
2A$55.4B3.4B19.4B5.A$39.3B12.4B25.A.A.A.A$39.3B2A2.A6.4B3.A7.AB12.A.2A
.2A.A$38.2A2B2A3BA4.4B3.A.A5.B2A12.A3.A3.A$38.2A7BA3.4B3.2BAB5.2ABAB9.
2A3.A.2A$39.B2.B4A3.5B2.B.2B5.A2B3A15.A$44.3B2.5B.6B4.A.ABAB14.A.A$38.
A8.5B3.B3A2B2.BABA.A16.2A$38.3A5.5B4.B2ABA2B3A2BA$41.A4.4B6.2B2AB.BAB
2A$40.2A3.4B3.A3.6B2.2AB$40.8B3.A.A4.4B2.BA$36.2A4.5B4.A.A3.B2A2B$35.
A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A$35.A.2AB2.5B8.A$34.2A.B.B3.5B7.A$34.A2.2A2B2.5B4.
BA.2A$35.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A$37.2ABA4B2A6B3.2A$35.2A2.A5B2A6B8.2B$34.A2.
A2.5BA7B6.6B$35.2A3.5BA2BA5B3.10B$41.4BA3BA4B.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$41.7BA7B
4AB2AB4AB$41.B2A12BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$39.2ABA10B.B2.10B$39.A2B2.9B6.6B$40.
A3.8B9.2B$37.3A5.6B$37.A9.3B!

And this is your non-flexible diagram:

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x = 83, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory
3.A9.3B$3.3A5.6B$6.A3.8B9.2B$5.2AB2.9B6.6B$5.9B3A2B.B2.10B$7.4B3AB2A5B
A2BAB2ABA2BAB$7.4B5A6B4AB2AB4A2B$7.4BA2B2A4B.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$.2A3.6B2A
6B3.10B$A2.A2.13B6.6B$.2A2.A13B8.2B$3.2ABA12B3.2A$.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A$A
2.2A2B2.5B4.BA.2A$2A.B.B3.5B7.A$.A.2AB2.5B8.A$.A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A$2.
2A4.5B4.A.A3.B2A2B$6.8B3.A.A4.4B2.2A$6.2A3.3BA3.A3.6B2.3B$7.A4.ABAB6.
5B.A3BA$4.3A5.B2A2B4.7BA4BA$4.A8.5B3.3B3A2.BABA.A$10.2AB2.5B.3BA2B4.A
.ABAB$5.B2.2B3A3.5B2.B.2B5.A4BA$4.2A2BA2BABA3.4B3.2BAB5.A3BA$4.2A2B2A
2B2A4.4B3.A.A5.3B$5.3B2A2.B6.4B3.A7.2A$5.3B12.4B$21.4B$22.4B$23.4B$24.
4B$25.4B$26.3BA$27.ABA$28.2A15$48.A9.3B$48.3A5.6B$51.A3.8B9.2B$50.2AB
2.9B6.6B$50.9B3A2B.B2.10B$52.4B3AB2A5BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$52.4B5A6B4AB2AB4A
2B$52.4BA2B2A4B.BA2BAB2ABA2BAB$46.2A3.6B2A6B3.10B$45.A2.A2.13B6.6B$46.
2A2.A13B8.2B$48.2ABA12B3.2A$46.2A2.AB.9B.B2A2.A$45.A2.2A2B2.5B4.BA.2A
$45.2A.B.B3.5B7.A$46.A.2AB2.5B8.A$46.A.BAB.5B4.2A.2A3.2A$47.2A4.5B4.A
.A3.B2A2B$51.8B3.A.A4.4B2.2A$51.2A3.3BA3.A3.6B2.3B$52.A4.ABAB6.5B.A3B
A$49.3A5.B2A2B4.7BA4BA$49.A8.5B3.3B3A2.BABA.A$55.2AB2.5B.3BA2B4.A.ABA
B$50.B2.2B3A3.5B2.B.2B5.A4BA$49.2A2BA2BABA3.4B3.2BAB5.A3BA$49.2A2B2A2B
2A4.4B3.A.A5.3B$50.3B2A2.B6.4B3.A7.2A$50.3B12.4B$66.4B$67.4B$68.4B$69.
4B$70.4B$71.3BA$72.ABA$73.2A!

Whether this is what you meant by flexible or not, it'll have the same effect, so there's no need for any new technology here.

flexible guns have a ranking

[hotcrystal0]

Temporary trans-boat with tail:

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#C [[ STOP 86 ]]
x = 11, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
2o3bo3b2o$obobobobobo$3b2ob2o17$4b2o$4b2o10$5bo$4b3o$3b2obo!

[Bongoer]

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x = 7, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
bbb3o$3obbbo$bbb3o

[NNlk05]

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x = 7, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
bbb3o$3obbbo$bbb3o

Welcome to the forums!
In the future, use pattern tags like this:

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[pattern]
x = 7, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
bbb3o$3obbbo$bbb3o
[/pattern]

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x = 7, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
bbb3o$3obbbo$bbb3o

This is equivalent to the Pi-heptomino. If you want to learn more about CGoL, check out the LifeWiki!

[I6_I6]

A banana can turn a boat:

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x = 5, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o2$3bo$2bobo$2b2o!

Is it known?

[atanisaduts]

teardrop can be a reflector

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x = 20, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
$12bobo$12b2o$13bo8$2bo$3bo$b3o4bo$6b2o$7b2o!

[TheWayOfTheCon]

teardrop can be a reflector

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x = 20, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
$12bobo$12b2o$13bo8$2bo$3bo$b3o4bo$6b2o$7b2o!

Since the teardrop is destroyed in the process, we would actually call this a one-time turner. Although it technically isn't even that since a boat is left in the ash. If we could get rid of the boat without excess gliders, then that would be something.

[atanisaduts]

also teardrop can be made with two gliders and maybe a boat can be destroyed with one glider but idk so like it's one glider but you need three
ok yeah it's prolly useless

edit: I found a uselesser way to reflect w/ a teardrop

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 x = 19, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
$13bobo$13b2o$14bo9$3bo$4bo$2b3o4bo$7b2o$8b2o!

I was told you should edit the last message if you have another thing to say so I found a near three glider queen bee

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 x = 21, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
3$17bobo$17b2o$18bo5$7bo$8bo$6b3o4bo$11b2o$12b2o!

also this looks cool

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x = 21, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
3$2bo$3bo10bo$b3o4bo4bo$6b2o5b3o$7b2o3$11bo$10b2o$10bobo!

an actual one time reflector I found

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
$10bo$9bo$9b3o2$3bo$2bobo$2bobo$3bo$6b2o$6b2o!

chainable one time use loaf reflector (almost)

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x = 44, y = 58, rule = B3/S23
2$6bo$4bobo$5b2o23$27bo$26bobo6b2o$25bo2bo5bo2bo$26b2o7b2o7$32b2o$31b
o2bo$32bobo$33bo9$25b2o$24bobo$26bo!

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x = 127, y = 119, rule = B3/S23
$40bo$38bobo$39b2o6$118bo$118bobo$118b2o15$64bo$62bobo$63b2o12$91bo$90b
obo$90bo2bo$91b2o4$81bo$80bobo6b2o$79bo2bo5bo2bo$80b2o7b2o4$72b2o$71b
o2bo$72bobo$73bo12b2o$85bo2bo$86bobo$87bo9$79b2o$78bobo$80bo33$18b3o$
20bo$19bo!