Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project

[speedydelete]

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Error: Server returned 400 Invalid Parameters!

As I'm trying to search for a completely valid speed.

Everything is fixed now.

[LaundryPizza03]

This thread is up to 500K views now!

[MDA]

Whenever I try to change a search parameter on the 5S website (such as whether or not to include adjustable spaceships), the site reloads empty, containing only

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Has this bug been noticed before? Can anyone fix it?

[speedydelete]

Whenever I try to change a search parameter on the 5S website (such as whether or not to include adjustable spaceships), the site reloads empty, containing only

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Has this bug been noticed before? Can anyone fix it?

Do you mind showing an image of the website, including the console? Also, what browser and device are you on?

[MDA]

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Do you mind showing an image of the website, including the console? Also, what browser and device are you on?

Here’s an image of the website:

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I don’t have a way to show the console now.

I’m running Firefox on an iOS device.

[pifricted]

The 5s website returns:

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ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

What happend?

[NNlk05]

The 5s website returns:

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ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

What happend?

The SSL certificate expired. You can safely override that as you are not sending passwords and the like over the connection.

[AforAmpere]

For those who are only on the Forums, 5S has still been progressing, with discussion mostly on Discord, since updates are so rapid and sizable that it'd be hard to translate into this setting. INT Generations has a lot of open room for improvement, as there is no tool like LLS to cover and minimize low-medium period speeds with. EPE has managed to cover a decent number of things, but (5,1)c/6 is still unknown, for example. Other sections like R2 HROT are also pretty underexplored.

Unfortunately in INT (7,1)c/8 and 9c/10 are *still* proving hard to find.

[AforAmpere]

Sparse 9c/10 puffer, found by taking a partial result and repeatedly greedily picking the rule from all adjacent rules that got the deepest at a fixed width in LLSSS. Not quite a ship, but still a pretty big step. If anyone has any good ideas for making headway from here, please give it a go.

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x = 27, y = 28, rule = B2ac3anr4anqrwz5ejqr6ei7/S12i3aej4jtyz5-qy6aei7c
6bob2obobobob2obo$4b3obo2bo3bo2bob3o$5bo2b4obob4o2bo$4bob2obobo3bobob
2obo$9b3o3b3o$6bob2o2bobo2b2obo$2bo3b5o5b5o3bo$3bo8bobo8bo$o25bo$bo23b
o3$6bo13bo$5bo15bo$8bo9bo$2bo8bobobo8bo$3bo6bobobobo6bo$o12bo12bo$bo
23bo3$6bo13bo$5bo7bo7bo2$2bo10bo10bo$3bo6bo5bo6bo$o10bo3bo10bo$bo23bo!

EDIT, an even closer puffer:

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x = 21, y = 29, rule = B2acn3anr4anrwz5ejr6cei7/S12i3aejy4cejknt5-akqy6aei8
3b3obobobobob3o$b3ob3o5b3ob3o$2bo2bobo5bobo2bo$o5bobo3bobo5bo$2bo2bob
3ob3obo2bo$bo2bob2o5b2obo2bo$2b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o$3bo3bo2bo2bo3bo$bob4o7b
4obo$2b3ob2o5b2ob3o$2bobo4bobo4bobo$5bobo5bobo3$10bo$8bo3bo2$7bo5bo$o
7bo3bo7bo$bo17bo2$9bobo6$o19bo$bo17bo!

[TheLifer246]

That tumbles alot. c/41 diagonal

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x = 21, y = 9, rule = B3aijqr/S2-ci3-acy4i
14bo$13b3o$2o10b2obo$bo12bo2$bo16b2o$2o18bo$14bob2obo$16b3o!

[NNlk05]

That tumbles alot.

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x = 21, y = 9, rule = B3aijqr/S2-ci3-acy4i
14bo$13b3o$2o10b2obo$bo12bo2$bo16b2o$2o18bo$14bob2obo$16b3o!

Unfortunately not 5S

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#C 2c/82o, population 3, optimal
x = 0, y = 0, rule = B2cik3acikq4aceryz5acikr6-en8/S02kn3ajkqr4jn5ainry6e7e
o2$o3$3bo!

[TheLifer246]

That tumbles alot.

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x = 21, y = 9, rule = B3aijqr/S2-ci3-acy4i
14bo$13b3o$2o10b2obo$bo12bo2$bo16b2o$2o18bo$14bob2obo$16b3o!

Unfortunately not 5S

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#C 2c/82o, population 3, optimal
x = 0, y = 0, rule = B2cik3acikq4aceryz5acikr6-en8/S02kn3ajkqr4jn5ainry6e7e
o2$o3$3bo!

Sorry!

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x = 0, y = 1, rule = 2in3-cny4eijy5ackr7/S2aek3-aey4aceinq5-ijqy6ckn7e
3o$o2bo$o!

fixed quote tags --hotdogPi

[hibiscus]

Yujh our beloved
9c/10 orthogonal spaceship found by yujh

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x = 32, y = 23, rule = B2ac3anr4-ijkty5cejr6-an7c/S12i3aej4jqty5in6-kn
25bo$8bo15bo$25bo$6bobobo13bo3b3o$25bo$4bo3bo21bo$bo3bo15bo3bo3b2o$o5b
o2bobo3bobo3bo3bo3b2o$bobobo10b3o2bo4b2o$2bobobo8bobobo6bob2obo$13bo4b
ob3o3b3obo$12bo6bobo5b2o$13bo4bob3o3b3obo$2bobobo8bobobo6bob2obo$bobo
bo10b3o2bo4b2o$o5bo2bobo3bobo3bo3bo3b2o$bo3bo15bo3bo3b2o$4bo3bo21bo$25b
o$6bobobo13bo3b3o$25bo$8bo15bo$25bo!

[NimbleRogue]

9c/10 at 61 cells

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x = 17, y = 27, rule = B2ac3anr4anqrtwz5cejk6ain7c/S12i3aejy4cekqtwz5akn6-i
6bo3bo$ob3o2bobo2b3obo$o2b2obo3bob2o2bo$o2b3o5b3o2bo$3bobo5bobo2$2bo
11bo$6b2ob2o$5bo5bo2$7bobo2$5bobobobo2$7bobo$6bobobo7$6bo3bo$5bo5bo$6b
obobo$7bobo$8bo!

2 18c/20 puffers with decently sparse outputs

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x = 21, y = 13, rule = B2ac3anr4-cijky5acejk6ain7c/S12i3aejy4ekqtwz5akn6-i8
3b3obobobobob3o$b3ob3o5b3ob3o$2b3o2bo5bo2b3o$o2b3obo5bob3o2bo$5b2o7b2o
$bo2bobobo3bobobo2bo$8b2ob2o$9bobo$8bo3bo$10bo$8bobobo$9bobo$10bo!

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x = 21, y = 14, rule = B2ac3anr4anqrtwz5cejk6ain7c/S12i3aejy4kqtwz5akn6-i
4b4obobob4o$b2o4b3ob3o4b2o$2b2ob3obobob3ob2o$o3b3o2bobo2b3o3bo$3bobob
2o3b2obobo$bo2bobo7bobo2bo2$9bobo$4bo3b2ob2o3bo$6bob5obo$6b2o5b2o$10bo
$8b5o$9bobo!

Edit 1:
Ampere found a small 18c/20 puffer which can be easily corderized to form the first 18c/20. This can easily be optimized. There is probably a 2 engine stabilization, and the spacings and pops of the ships and the puffer can be tightened up.

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x = 49, y = 79, rule = B2ac3anr4anqrtwz5cejk6ain7c/S12i3aejy4cekqtwz5akn6-i
21bob3obo$15bob3o2b2ob2o2b3obo$16bo4b2o3b2o4bo$15bobobo2b5o2bobobo$23b
3o$18bo3bo3bo3bo14$6bo3bo27bo3bo$ob3o2bobo2b3obo15bob3o2bobo2b3obo$o2b
2obo3bob2o2bo15bo2b2obo3bob2o2bo$o2b3o5b3o2bo15bo2b3o5b3o2bo$3bobo5bob
o21bobo5bobo2$2bo11bo19bo11bo$6b2ob2o27b2ob2o$5bo5bo25bo5bo2$7bobo29bo
bo2$5bobobobo25bobobobo2$7bobo29bobo$6bobobo27bobobo7$6bo3bo27bo3bo$5b
o5bo25bo5bo$6bobobo27bobobo$7bobo29bobo$8bo31bo7$10bo3bo$4bob3o2bobo2b
3obo$4bo2b2obo3bob2o2bo$4bo2b3o5b3o2bo$7bobo5bobo2$6bo11bo$10b2ob2o$9b
o5bo2$11bobo2$9bobobobo2$11bobo$10bobobo7$10bo3bo$9bo5bo$10bobobo$11bo
bo$12bo!

[TheLifer246]

OT Spaceships here?

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x = 6, y = 3, rule = B015/S23
bo$ob2obo$bo3bo!

[I6_I6]

OT Spaceships here?

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x = 6, y = 3, rule = B015/S23
bo$ob2obo$bo3bo!

Yes, OT spaceships are also allowed (but your spaceship doesn't break any records).

[speedydelete]

Due to a bug, the INT obliques file was wiped. The last backup appears to be at 2026-09-25 18:00:00 UTC, so all oblique ships submitted after that date are lost. The server is temporarily down while I fix this and also do a few other things that I should've done a while ago. After it gets back online, can everyone please re-submit all oblique spaceships submitted to INT after the above time?

[speedydelete]

The server is back up now, everything seems to work, but I could've broken something.

Changes:
- Fixed the bug that caused data to be wiped.
- It's now actually usable on mobile!
- The period maps are now much better and show the c/2o-c/3d and c/2o-c/4d speed limit lines.

[MDA]

The server is back up now, everything seems to work, but I could've broken something.

Changes:
- Fixed the bug that caused data to be wiped.
- It's now actually usable on mobile!
- The period maps are now much better and show the c/2o-c/3d and c/2o-c/4d speed limit lines.

Some notes:

- Period maps are only shown up to period 127.

- The period map marks p1 phoenix oscillators as unknown when they should be marked as impossible.

[speedydelete]

Some notes:

- Period maps are only shown up to period 127.

- The period map marks p1 phoenix oscillators as unknown when they should be marked as impossible.

The first one is intentional to reduce server load, I'm going to fix the second.

[AforAmpere]

A (7,1)c/8 dot puffer, in a rule by NimbleRogue:

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x = 68, y = 72, rule = B2-ik3cenqr4-eiknr5aejkn6-ei78/S02cin3cejqy4-nqwy5-acek678
60bo$53bob3o2bo2b3o$52bobobo2bobo4bo$53b3obo2b5o$55b3ob5o2b2o$54b13o$
51bo2b12o$54b11o$53b11o$51bob10o$51b11o$42b4obobob10o$39b2o3bo2b2o3b8o
$38bob4ob3obob8o$41b7ob9o$40bob5o2b8o$38b2ob7ob7o$37b2ob15o$38bob14o$
38bob13o$38b14o$37b14o$38b12o$36b13o$37b11o$27b3obobobob10o$25b3obo3bo
3b9o$24bob2ob16o$27b2obobob10o$24bo4bo3b10o$26b2ob13o$26b15o$25bob13o$
25b14o$25b13o$25b12o$24b12o$23b12o$24b10o$21b2o2b8o$21bob9o$21b10o$19b
ob9o$21b8o$16b2o2b8o$15bob10o$14bob10o$13b12o$12bob10o$12b3ob7o$11b4ob
6o$9bo2b3ob5o$8b12o$7bob10o$7b2ob8o$8b2ob6o$9bo2b4o$4bo2bob6o$2b2o3b7o
$3b4ob5o$3b3ob5o$2b9o$3b7o$3b6o$b7o$2b5o$3b3o$bob2o$3bo2$o$2bo!

This is actually the second (7,1)c/8 dot puffer found, but I don't think the first made it over here. There have also been a million wickstretchers like this that we can't stop finding instead of ships:

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x = 50, y = 50, rule = B2ack3-ciny4-cknry5-aejq6cn7c8/S2a3aejnr4airtz5aknq6ac78
42bob2o$35bobob2obob2ob2o$34b2ob3o4bo$33bob3o2bob3o2bobo$38bobob2obo2b
o$32b2o3bobobobobobo$36bobobobobobo$33b2ob2obobobobo$38bobobobo$33bobo
bobo3bo$34bobobobobo$35bobobobo$33b2obobobo$35bobobo$31b2obobobo$33bob
obo$29b2obobobo$27b3obobobo$26b3obobobo$25b5obobo$24b5obobo$23b5obobo$
22b5obobo$21b5obobo$20b5obobo$19b5obobo$18b5obobo$17b5obobo$17b4obobo$
16b2obobobo$16bobobobo$14bo2bobobo$5bo8bobobobo$3bobobobo2bo2bobobo$2b
o4bo2bobobobobo$b3o5bobobobobo$3bo2b2o2bobobobo$b3obobobobobobo$2bobob
obobobobo$b2o2bobobobobo$bob2obobobobo$5bobo3bo$2ob2obobobo$3b3obobo$
4o2bobo$2o2b2obo$6bo$bobobo$bo2bo$3bo!

[I6_I6]

A (7,1)c/8 dot puffer, in a rule by NimbleRogue:

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x = 68, y = 72, rule = B2-ik3cenqr4-eiknr5aejkn6-ei78/S02cin3cejqy4-nqwy5-acek678
60bo$53bob3o2bo2b3o$52bobobo2bobo4bo$53b3obo2b5o$55b3ob5o2b2o$54b13o$
51bo2b12o$54b11o$53b11o$51bob10o$51b11o$42b4obobob10o$39b2o3bo2b2o3b8o
$38bob4ob3obob8o$41b7ob9o$40bob5o2b8o$38b2ob7ob7o$37b2ob15o$38bob14o$
38bob13o$38b14o$37b14o$38b12o$36b13o$37b11o$27b3obobobob10o$25b3obo3bo
3b9o$24bob2ob16o$27b2obobob10o$24bo4bo3b10o$26b2ob13o$26b15o$25bob13o$
25b14o$25b13o$25b12o$24b12o$23b12o$24b10o$21b2o2b8o$21bob9o$21b10o$19b
ob9o$21b8o$16b2o2b8o$15bob10o$14bob10o$13b12o$12bob10o$12b3ob7o$11b4ob
6o$9bo2b3ob5o$8b12o$7bob10o$7b2ob8o$8b2ob6o$9bo2b4o$4bo2bob6o$2b2o3b7o
$3b4ob5o$3b3ob5o$2b9o$3b7o$3b6o$b7o$2b5o$3b3o$bob2o$3bo2$o$2bo!

This is actually the second (7,1)c/8 dot puffer found, but I don't think the first made it over here. [...]

It did (if this is the one you're talking about):

This (7,1)c/8 puffer only produces 2 dots each cycle, and is self corderizing. If anyone can find a corderization in this or a related rule we would have the first (7,1)c/8 in INT

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x = 20, y = 91, rule = B2-ik3ejkry4eijnqt5-jqy6-en78/S02-ai3jq4aknrt5-akry678
10bobo$4b3ob3ob2ob2o$3bob4ob2o2b2obo$4bo2bob5o$5b9ob5o$7b12o$6b12o$3bo
2b11o$3b13o$2bob11o$3b11o$bob10o$b11o$b10o$10o$b8o$b7o$b6o$b5o$5o$2b2o
$2bo2$10bobo$4b3ob3ob2ob2o$3bob4ob2o2b2obo$4bo2bob5o$5b9ob5o$7b12o$6b
12o$3bo2b11o$3b13o$2bob11o$3b11o$bob10o$b11o$b10o$10o$b8o$b7o$b6o$b5o$
5o$2b2o$2bo2$10bobo$4b3ob3ob2ob2o$3bob4ob2o2b2obo$4bo2bob5o$5b9ob5o$7b
12o$6b12o$3bo2b11o$3b13o$2bob11o$3b11o$bob10o$b11o$b10o$10o$b8o$b7o$b
6o$b5o$5o$2b2o$2bo2$10bobo$4b3ob3ob2ob2o$3bob4ob2o2b2obo$4bo2bob5o$5b
9ob5o$7b12o$6b12o$3bo2b11o$3b13o$2bob11o$3b11o$bob10o$b11o$b10o$10o$b
8o$b7o$b6o$b5o$5o$2b2o$2bo!

[NimbleRogue]

Finally found a (7,1)c/8

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x = 75, y = 77, rule = B2-ik3cenqr4ajqtwyz5aejkn6-ei78/S02cin3-iknr4-nqwy5-acek678
5bobob4o$b3o6bo3b2o$2bo2bo2b2ob4obo$5o2b7o$b4o2b6obo$2b12ob2o$3b12ob2o
$4b11obo$5b10obo$6b11o$7b10o$8b7ob3o$9b6o2bobo$10b10o$11b8o7bo$12b7o2b
3o2bo2b3obo$13b8o4bobo2bobobo$14b5o2bo3b2o2bob3o$15b13ob3o$16b17o$17b
16o2bo$18b15o$19b15o$20b14obo$21b14o$22b15o$23b13o$24b14o$25b12o2b3o$
26b10o2b2o2bobob2o$27b10o2b2obo2b2obo$28b11ob3o$29b18o$30b17o$31b15o2b
obob4o$32b15obobo2bo3b2o$33b16ob3ob4obo$34b23o$35b21obo$36b21ob2o$37b
21ob2o$38b20obo$39b19obo$40b20o$41b20o$42b18o$43b19o$44b17o$45b15o$46b
15o$47b15o$48b13ob2o2bo$49b13o2bo3b2o$50b12o3bob2obo$51b17o$52b17o$53b
17o$54b15o$55b13o2bo$56b10o2b2obo$57b11o$58b12o$59b11o$60b12o$61b12o$
62b11obo$63b11o$64b11o$65b9o$66b8o$67b5obo$68b7o$69b5o$70b3o$71b3o$72b
3o$73bo!

[AforAmpere]

Smaller:

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x = 41, y = 47, rule = B2-ik3cenqr4ajqtwyz5aejkn6-ei78/S02cin3-iknr4-nqwy5-acek678
16bo$11b3o2bo2b3obo$10bo4bobo2bobobo$8bo3b5o2bob3o$9b2o2b5ob3o$3bob3ob
14o$2bobo2bob14o2bo$b6ob15o$24o$b6o2b15obo$2b23o$3b24o$4b22o$5b23o$6b
21o$7b19o$8b19o$9b17o$10b15o$11b15o$12b15o$13b13obo$14b11obob3ob3o$15b
12o3bo2bobo$16b12obobobo$17b14ob2o$18b17o$19b15o$20b13obo$21b14obo$22b
11o$23b10o3bo$24b11o$25b12o$26b12o$27b12o$28b12o$29b10o$30b11o$31b9o$
32b7o$33b6obo$34b5o$35b5o$36b2o$37b3o$38bo!

EDIT, even smaller in a different rule entirely:

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x = 47, y = 44, rule = B2-kn3cjqy4eijktw5acik6-in7e8/S1e2-ak3cjkqy4-iwyz5cinqr6-i78
42bo$41b2o$40b2o2bo$39b6o$38b9o$37b8o$36b7o2bo$35b9ob2o$34b9o2b2o$33b
4o2bo6bo$32b7o4b2o$31b9o2bo3bo$30b13o2b2o$29b7ob2o2b3o2bo$28b9ob6ob2o$
27b15o2b2o$26b14o2bo$25b15o4b2o$24b4obo2bo4b2ob3o2bo$23b4o3b4o3bo2b5o$
22b5obob4o5bo$21b6o2b2obobo$20b7ob3ob2o$19b7ob4ob2o$18b8ob5obo$17b13o
2bo$16b9o6bo$15b7obobo$14b10obobo$13b11ob2o$12b15o$11b10o3bo$10b9obo2b
2o$9b13o$8b6o2b2o2b4o$7b7obob2ob2obo$6b12o2b3o$5b13ob4o$4b13o$3b16o$2b
14ob2o$b10obo3bobo$9o2bob3obo$7bo4bo3bo!

[AforAmpere]

Double post, but (8,1)c/9:

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x = 87, y = 95, rule = B2ace3jnqry4jtz5-jkny6-kn78/S012i3cjky4-inwy5-a6-ei78
71b4ob3o2bo$68b2o2bo6b2ob3o$69bo2b3ob7o$67b3obo3b7obo$66bob2o4b7o2bob
2o$67b4o2bo2b10o$65bo2b5o2b10o$65bob17o$64bo2b3o3b10o$61b2o5b3o2b9o$
63b12o2b4o$60b2obob15o$59bobob16o$59bob17o$59bo2b15o$58bo2b15o$60bob
13o$57b17o$55bo4b13o$53b2ob16o$51b2o2bob14o$50bobobo3b12o$49bobo5b12o$
49bo3bo2b12o$48b3obo2b12o$48b2ob15o$44b2o2b2ob14o$43bo3b3obob11o$42b2o
4b3ob11o$41b2obob5ob10o$40bobo7b11o$43b6o2b9o$40bob8ob8o$37bo3b2ob14o$
36bo2b18o$38bo2bob13o$36b2o4b13o$35bobob15o$34b4ob14o$28b2obobo3bob13o
$29bo3bo3b14o$29bo5b15o$34b2ob12o$30bo5b12o$29b18o$29b17o$29b16o$29b
15o$27b16o$28b14o$24bo2bob12o$24b16o$24b3ob11o$25b13o$21bobob12o$20bo
2b13o$19bo2b2ob10o$21bob11o$17b3o2b11o$14b2o2b14o$13bobo2b5o2b6o$12bo
2bob5o2b6o$11b3o2bo2b2o3b5o$10bob2o2bob2ob7o$9b4o4b10o$7bob5ob11o$5b2o
b17o$6bob3o2b11o$8b2o2b11o$4b2o2bobobob9o$3bob3o2bo2b10ob2o$3bob3ob16o
$2b2ob2o2b15o$2bob3o2b14o$obob18o$2b2ob16o$20o$b18o$b17o$b16o$b15o$b
14o$b13o$b12o$b11o$b10o$b9o$b8o$b7o$b6o$b5o$5o$2b2o$3o$bo!