Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

[Anivec]

G-to-sanity-depriving-chaos:

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x = 33, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o4$22b2o$23bo$23bobo5b2o$24b2o5bo$29bobo$29b2o2$26b2o$25bo2bo
$25bobo$2b2o22bo$bobo$bo26b2o$2o26bo$16b2o11b3o$16b2o13bo8$5b2o$6bo$6b
obo$7b2o8$15b2o$11b2o3bo$11bo2bobobo2bo$12b3obob4o$15b2o$12b2o3b3o$12b
ob3o2bo$16bo!

Version 2

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x = 33, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
31bo$30bo$30b3o4$9b2o$9bo$2o5bobo$bo5b2o$bobo$2b2o2$5b2o$4bo2bo$5bobo
$6bo22b2o$29bobo$3b2o26bo$4bo26b2o$b3o11b2o$bo13b2o8$24b2o$24bo$25bo$
24b2o$26b2o$24b2o2bo$25bob2o$25bo$24b2o3$16b2o$16bo3b2o$14bobobo2bo$12b
3obob3o$11bo4b2o$12b4o3b2o$13bo2b3obo$11bo4bo$11b2o!

[MathAndCode]

Here is an HB69B. The only speculative part is its connectability.

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x = 21, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
20.A$12.2A4.3A$9.A.A2.A2.A$7.3A.3A3.2A$6.A$6.A.A.2A$7.2A.2A$2A$.A$.A.
A$2.2A7$2.C$2.C.C8.D$2.3C7.2D$4.C6.2D$12.2D4$16.2A$16.A$17.3A$19.A!

[Jormungant]

Here is an HB69B. The only speculative part is its connectability.

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x = 21, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
20.A$12.2A4.3A$9.A.A2.A2.A$7.3A.3A3.2A$6.A$6.A.A.2A$7.2A.2A$2A$.A$.A.
A$2.2A7$2.C$2.C.C8.D$2.3C7.2D$4.C6.2D$12.2D4$16.2A$16.A$17.3A$19.A!

well, there might eventually be a proper factory to make this work (it does not have to be a block, a hive/boat could work too), as the natural glider needs to be managed if anything, this is the best I could find:

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x = 44, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
3$25.2A$25.2A4$38.2A$38.A$15.2A19.A.A$16.A19.2A$16.A.A$17.2A2$21.2C7.
2A$21.2C7.2A6.2A$35.2A2.A$14.2C18.A.3A$14.2C17.A$4.2A28.5A$5.A32.A$5.
A.A28.A$6.2A18.2A8.2A$27.A$27.A.A$28.2A4$6.C$6.C.C8.D$6.3C7.2D$8.C6.
2D$16.2D4$20.2A$20.A$21.3A$23.A!

[C28]

New conduit lead, featuring a U-turner output! It needs more catalysts to clean up the leftover boat and block.

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x = 20, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
18.2D$17.D.D$16.3D$16.3D2$5.3A$6.3A$15.A$15.A$15.A$6.3A$5.3A4$7.A$.A
5.A$.2A4.A$.2A$2.A8$A$A.A$3A$2.A6$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A!

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x = 41, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
5b3o20b2o$6b3o18bobo$15bo11b2o$15bo15b2o$15bo15bobo$6b3o24bo$5b3o25b3o
$36bo$35b2o2$7bo27b4o$bo5bo27bo2bo$b2o4bo29bo$b2o35b3o$2bo37bo$35b2o$
35bobo$37bo$37b2o4$o27b2o$obo25bobo$3o27bo$2bo27b2o$20b2o$21bo$18b3o$
18bo$19b2o$7b2o11bo$7b2o2b2o6bo$11b2o6b2o!

EDIT by dvgrn: Moved this over to the "speculative" thread, because the extra catalysts seemed to be resolutely non-Blonkic and non-Eonian. There might be a better place for it than this thread, if a U-to-X connector can be shown to work after this conduit (I haven't looked). Or I can move it back if it's somehow more on-topic than it seems -- just report this post with an explanation.

[Anivec]

H-to-H+Block:

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x = 47, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
19.4B$20.4B$21.4B$22.4B$23.4B$24.4B$24.4B$24.5B$23.10B$23.14B.B$23.21B
$22.10B2A11BD$21.11B2A9B3DB$21.22BDBD$18.B.23BD$16.18B2.2B2.2B$16.19B
$15.12B2D6B$15.12B2D5B$16.17B$15.18B$13.22B$11.25B$11.2BC21B$10.3BCBC
20B$11.2B3C4B.16B$10.5BC4B2.16B$9.10B2.13B.B2A.A$8.4B9.12B2.B2AB3A$7.
4B9.13B4.B4.A$6.4B10.13B3.2A.3A$5.4B10.13B5.A.A$4.4B10.14B5.A.A$3.4B11.
13B7.A$2.4B12.13B$.4B13.13B$4B15.11B$3B$2B$B!

Probably useless dependent H-to-W:

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
5.D10.2A$.2A.2D10.A$3AD2A8.A.A$.2ADC2A7.2A$3A.2A3.A$2A6.A.A$7.A2.A$8.
2A3$6.2A.2A$5.A.A.A.A$3.3A3.A.A$2.A4.A.A.3A$3.3A.2A.A3.A$5.A4.A2.2A$7.
3A$6.2A!

[Anivec]

Is there a replacement for the block?

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x = 37, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
3.A$4.A$2.3A2$22.2A$23.A$23.A.A5.2A$24.2A5.A$29.A.A$29.2A2$26.2A$25.A
2.A$25.A.A$2.2A22.A$.A.A$.A26.2A$2A26.A$16.2A11.3A$16.2A13.A4$35.2A$35.
A$33.A.A$33.2A4$.2A30.2A$2.A30.2A$2.A.A$3.2A$7.2A$6.A.A$6.2A2$15.2A3.
2A$11.2A3.A3.A$11.A2.A.A.A.A$12.3A.A.2A$15.2A$12.2A3.3A$12.A.3A2.A$16.
A!

[yoleo]

Is there a replacement for the block?

Huh. The right side of that bottom catalyst is pretty flexible: there's sufficient room to fit other catalysts or weld. Example of what I mean:

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x = 34, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
3.A$4.A$2.3A2$22.2A$23.A$23.A.A5.2A$24.2A5.A$29.A.A$29.2A2$26.2A$25.A
2.A$25.A.A$2.2A22.A$.A.A$.A26.2A$2A26.A$16.2A11.3A$16.2A13.A11$.2A$2.
A$2.A.A$3.2A$7.2A$6.A.A$6.2A$25.A6.2A$15.2E7.A.A.A2.A.A$11.2E3.E5.3A.
A.4A$11.E2.E.E.E2.A3.2A5.A$12.3E.E.2E2A.A3.A.2A.A$15.2E6.2A.2A.A.A$
12.2E3.2E2A.A$12.E.3E2.A.2A$16.E!

[Anivec]

Huh. The right side of that bottom catalyst is pretty flexible: there's sufficient room to fit other catalysts or weld. Example of what I mean:

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x = 34, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
3.A$4.A$2.3A2$22.2A$23.A$23.A.A5.2A$24.2A5.A$29.A.A$29.2A2$26.2A$25.A
2.A$25.A.A$2.2A22.A$.A.A$.A26.2A$2A26.A$16.2A11.3A$16.2A13.A11$.2A$2.
A$2.A.A$3.2A$7.2A$6.A.A$6.2A$25.A6.2A$15.2E7.A.A.A2.A.A$11.2E3.E5.3A.
A.4A$11.E2.E.E.E2.A3.2A5.A$12.3E.E.2E2A.A3.A.2A.A$15.2E6.2A.2A.A.A$
12.2E3.2E2A.A$12.E.3E2.A.2A$16.E!

Catforce nor lightcone could suffice
Here are some catalysts that look pretty nice:

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x = 183, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
3.A74.A74.A$4.A74.A74.A$2.3A72.3A72.3A2$22.2A73.2A73.2A$23.A74.A74.A$
23.A.A5.2A65.A.A5.2A65.A.A5.2A$24.2A5.A67.2A5.A67.2A5.A$29.A.A72.A.A
72.A.A$29.2A73.2A73.2A2$26.2A73.2A73.2A$25.A2.A71.A2.A71.A2.A$25.A.A
72.A.A72.A.A$2.2A22.A50.2A22.A50.2A22.A$.A.A72.A.A72.A.A$.A26.2A46.A
26.2A46.A26.2A$2A26.A46.2A26.A46.2A26.A$16.2A11.3A59.2A11.3A59.2A11.
3A$16.2A13.A59.2A13.A59.2A13.A4$111.2A$111.A$109.A.A$109.2A4$.2A73.2A
73.2A$2.A74.A74.A$2.A.A72.A.A72.A.A$3.2A73.2A73.2A$7.2A73.2A73.2A$6.A
.A72.A.A72.A.A$6.2A73.2A73.2A$96.2A$15.2A3.2A68.2A3.A.A67.2A$11.2A3.A
3.A13.2A50.2A3.A3.A65.2A3.A$11.A2.A.A.A.A8.2A.A2.A50.A2.A.A.A.A65.A2.
A.A.A2.A4.2A$12.3A.A.2A8.A.A.3A52.3A.A.2A67.3A.A.4A4.2A$15.2A6.2A3.A.
A59.2A73.2A$12.2A3.3A3.A2.A.A.3A54.2A3.3A67.2A3.3A$12.A.3A2.A4.4A.A3.
A53.A.3A2.A67.A.3A2.A$16.A12.A2.2A57.A74.A$26.3A$26.A!

[ray1234]

Almost an HBx179R, but the pond is one cell off at generation 180.

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x = 28, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
10.A.2A$10.2A.A2$8.5A2.A$7.A4.A2.3A8.2A$6.A2.A8.A7.2A$6.A.2A7.2A$3.2A
.A5.A$4.A.A4.A.A$3.A2.2A2.A2.A$3.2A6.2A6$11.C$11.C.C$11.3C$13.C6$12.E
$2.2A7.E.E$3.A7.E.E$3A9.E$A7$20.2E$19.E2.E$19.E2.E$20.2E!

[Rhombicubocta]

Since the glider producing switch engine makes glider by producing Herschels, you can extract signals from it with known conduits.
If someone suppress the debris on the other side we will have a switch engine to switch engine and a Herschel. If we have to we could try to add it to part of a switch engine wave with a swimmers lane at the other end and get a mutiple switch engines to multiple switch engines and a Herschel. Preferably we can just suppress the debris more directly. We could also some how use the herschel out put to suppress the debris, but that would cost us the Herschel output which is kind of the point.
The pattern demonstrates connecting conduits to glider producing switch engine.

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x = 209, y = 166, rule = LifeHistory
8$16.4B$15.6B$15.6B$14.7B$14.2B3D2B$14.4BD3B$14.3B3D2B$15.8B$15.3B2A
2B$13.5B2A2B$13.13B$12.16B$11.17B$12.16B$13.15B$14.13B$15.12B$15.14B.
B$15.17B$14.20B$14.21B$14.21B$14.19B$13.18B$13.20B$12.17B.B2A.A$11.
18B.B2AB3A$10.4B2.7B2.4B3.B4.A$9.4B5.3B5.3B2.2A.3A$8.4B5.3B8.BA2.A.A$
8.3B6.4B7.B3A$8.2B7.2B2AB4.A$8.B10.2A5.4A18.4B$29.A17.6B$28.A18.6B$
28.2A16.7B$46.2B3D2B$46.4BD3B$46.3B3D2B$47.8B$47.3B2A2B$45.5B2A2B$45.
13B$44.16B$43.17B$44.16B$45.15B$46.13B$47.12B$47.14B.B$47.17B$46.20B$
46.21B$46.21B$46.19B$45.18B$45.20B$44.17B.B2A.A$43.18B.B2AB3A$42.4B2.
7B2.4B3.B4.A$41.4B5.3B5.3B2.2A.3A$40.4B5.3B8.BA2.A.A$39.4B6.4B7.B3A$
38.4B7.2B2AB4.A65.B$38.3B10.2A5.4A18.4B40.2B$38.2B21.A17.6B39.3A5.BA$
38.B21.A18.6B40.2A3.2ABAB$60.2A16.7B39.2A2.2B.A.A7.A$78.2B3D2B40.B2.B
3ABA6.ABA$78.4BD3B43.2B.2A6.ABA$78.3B3D2B52.4A3.A$79.8B50.BAB4.3A$79.
3B2A2B52.A4.2ABAB$77.5B2A2B55.BAB.AB$77.13B49.2B.5B$76.16B46.3ABA2BA$
75.17B47.A.4A$76.16B48.AB$77.15B$78.13B$79.12B42.BA3.2A$79.14B.B32.BA
.2A3BA.2ABA$79.17B30.2ABAB2.A.AB2.B2A$78.20B29.B.ABAB.3A2B2A$78.21B
31.AB3.2AB$78.21B37.B$78.19B$77.18B$77.20B$76.17B.B2A.A$75.18B.B2AB3A
$74.4B2.7B2.4B3.B4.A$73.4B5.3B5.3B2.2A.3A$72.4B5.3B8.BA2.A.A$71.4B6.
4B7.B3A$70.4B7.2B2AB4.A$70.3B10.2A5.4A18.4B$70.2B21.A17.6B$70.B21.A
18.6B$92.2A16.7B$110.2B3D2B$110.4BD3B$110.3B3D2B$111.8B$111.3B2A2B$
109.5B2A2B$109.13B$108.16B$107.17B$108.16B$109.15B$110.13B$111.12B$
111.14B.B$111.17B$110.20B$110.21B$110.21B$110.19B$109.18B$109.20B$
108.17B.B2A.A$107.18B.B2AB3A$106.4B2.7B2.4B3.B4.A$105.4B5.3B5.3B2.2A.
3A$104.4B5.3B8.BA2.A.A$103.4B6.4B7.B3A$102.4B7.2B2AB4.A$102.3B10.2A5.
4A$102.2B21.A$102.B21.A$124.2A!

edit: Can someone move this to the uncommon active region conduit thread?

[Jormungant]

Did not manage to get an h-to-g here... got useless octomino instead

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x = 77, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
13$38.A$38.3A6.2B13.2A$34.4B3.A4.4B12.A$34.2A3B.2A4.5B8.BA.A$35.A16B
4.2B.B2A$35.A.AB2D.12B.5B$36.2ABD19B$38.23B$38.B2A20B$38.A2BA19B$38.B
ABA4B2.5BD5B.B2A$38.2BA5B3.2B3D4B2.BA.A$39.9B2.2D7B4.A$37.4B2.8B2D7B
3.2A$35.3B2AB3.15B$31.2A.A.A2.A4.13B4.4A$31.A.2A.3A5.13B4.A2.A$35.A6.
B.9B2.B2.BA.A$32.2A2.A4.16B.B2A$31.A.3A4.19B$31.A8.19B3.B$32.2A6.20B.
3B3.4B$33.A6.24B.8B$33.A.AB3.35B$34.2AB.37B$36.39B$36.39B$37.39B$36.
41B$34.43B$32.39B4.2B$32.2BC36B5.B$31.3BCBC4B.21B3.5B$32.2B3C4B.10B.
6B3.3B2.4B$31.5BC4B.8B5.B.B5.B3.4B$30.10B.9B18.2B$29.4B6.10B.2B$29.3B
5.14B2A$27.4B5.15B2A$27.2A6.17B$28.A7.13B$25.3A11.10B$25.A13.11B$39.
10B$40.8B$43.4B$44.4B$45.4B$46.4B$47.4B$48.4B$49.4B$50.4B$51.4B$52.4B
!

or someone could fix this ... maybe:

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x = 116, y = 109, rule = LifeHistory
39$55.A$48.2A3.3A$42.2A5.A2.A$33.A7.AB.A.3A3.2A$33.3A6.ABA.A6.B$29.4B
3.A3.B2A.2A7.3B$29.2A3B.2A3.6B6.6B$30.A10B10.10B$30.A.AB2D.4B10.11B3.
2B2.2B$31.2ABD6B8.2BD3B2A15BD$33.8B8.2B2D2B2A15BDBD$33.B2A5B9.2B2D18B
3DB$33.A2BA4B10.BD21BD$33.BABA4B10.D21B$33.2BA5B12.13B.B$34.7B12.7B.B
$32.4B2.3B$30.3B2AB3.2B$26.2A.A.A2.A4.2B15.2A$26.A.2A.3A5.13B4.A$30.A
6.B.9B2.B2.BA.A$27.2A2.A4.16B.B2A$26.A.3A4.19B$26.A8.14B$27.2A6.14B$
28.A6.14B$28.A.AB3.14B$29.2AB.16B$31.18B$31.18B$32.17B$31.18B$29.20B$
27.22B$27.2BC19B$26.3BCBC4B.12B$27.2B3C4B.10B.B$26.5BC4B.8B$25.10B.9B
$24.4B6.10B.2B$24.3B5.14B2A$22.4B5.15B2A$22.2A6.17B$23.A7.13B$20.3A
11.10B$20.A13.11B$34.10B$35.8B$38.4B$39.4B$40.4B$41.4B$42.4B$43.4B$
44.4B$45.4B$46.4B$47.4B!

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

or someone could fix this ... maybe:

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x = 116, y = 109, rule = LifeHistory
39$55.A$48.2A3.3A$42.2A5.A2.A$33.A7.AB.A.3A3.2A$33.3A6.ABA.A6.B$29.4B
3.A3.B2A.2A7.3B$29.2A3B.2A3.6B6.6B$30.A10B10.10B$30.A.AB2D.4B10.11B3.
2B2.2B$31.2ABD6B8.2BD3B2A15BD$33.8B8.2B2D2B2A15BDBD$33.B2A5B9.2B2D18B
3DB$33.A2BA4B10.BD21BD$33.BABA4B10.D21B$33.2BA5B12.13B.B$34.7B12.7B.B
$32.4B2.3B$30.3B2AB3.2B$26.2A.A.A2.A4.2B15.2A$26.A.2A.3A5.13B4.A$30.A
6.B.9B2.B2.BA.A$27.2A2.A4.16B.B2A$26.A.3A4.19B$26.A8.14B$27.2A6.14B$
28.A6.14B$28.A.AB3.14B$29.2AB.16B$31.18B$31.18B$32.17B$31.18B$29.20B$
27.22B$27.2BC19B$26.3BCBC4B.12B$27.2B3C4B.10B.B$26.5BC4B.8B$25.10B.9B
$24.4B6.10B.2B$24.3B5.14B2A$22.4B5.15B2A$22.2A6.17B$23.A7.13B$20.3A
11.10B$20.A13.11B$34.10B$35.8B$38.4B$39.4B$40.4B$41.4B$42.4B$43.4B$
44.4B$45.4B$46.4B$47.4B!

Here is a p5 F186, using the FNG of the output Herschel to clean up (repeat time 259). I almost got a second Herschel out (R333), but that Herschel has so little clearance and just immediately crashes into the block if not eaten.
EDIT: works in all timings except for the one that creates an unexpected interaction with the bottom Herschel

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x = 59, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
29bo$22b2o3b3o$16b2o5bo2bo$7bo7bo2bob3o3b2o$7b3o6bobobo$10bo4b2ob2o37b
o$3b2o4b2o45bobo$4bo51bobo$4bobo50bo$5b2o22b2o15bo$29b2o15bo$8b2o36b3o
$7bo2bo37bo$8bobo$9bo3$7b2o$3bobo2bo$b3ob3o$o3bo$obo2bo$b4o37b2o$42bo$
b2o37bobo$2bo37b2o$2bobo$3b2o22b2o$27b2o2$57b2o$51bo2b2o2bo$51bo3bobo$
49b2ob2obob2o$3bo29bob2o6b2o4bo3b2o$3bobo27b5o3b2o4b2obobo3b3o$3b3o27b
o4b2obo4bo2b2ob3o3bo$5bo28b2obo3bobobobo7b3o$25b3o6b2obobobo4b2ob4o2bo
$27bo9bo7bobobo2bo$20b2o5b2o9bo5b3o$20b2o17b2o$43b2o$44bo$27b2o13bo$
27b2o13b2o!

[WhiteHawk]

Here is a quasi-stable (i.e. works at any timing despite containing an oscillator) F186, using the FNG of the output Herschel to clean up (repeat time 259). I almost got a second Herschel out (R333), but that Herschel has so little clearance and just immediately crashes into the block if not eaten.

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Doesn't work at all timings

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x = 59, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
29bo$22b2o3b3o$16b2o5bo2bo$7bo7bo2bob3o3b2o$7b3o6bobobo$10bo4b2ob2o$3b
2o4b2o$4bo$4bobo$5b2o22b2o$29b2o$8b2o$7bo2bo$8bobo$9bo3$7b2o$3bobo2bo
$b3ob3o$o3bo$obo2bo$b4o37b2o$42bo$b2o37bobo$2bo37b2o$2bobo$3b2o22b2o$
27b2o2$57b2o$54b2o2bo$50b2obobobo$50b2o3bob2o$3bo28bobo2bo9b2obobo2bo
$3bobo28bobo2bo7b2obobo2b4o$3b3o29b2o4b6o2b2ob3o3bo$5bo27bobob2o2b2o4b
o7b3o$37bobobobobobob4o2bo$34b2o3bo2bo4bobo2bo$20b2o18bo2b4o$20b2o15b
obo2bo$43b2o$44bo$27b2o13bo$27b2o13b2o!

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Here is a p5 F186, using the FNG of the output Herschel to clean up (repeat time 259). I almost got a second Herschel out (R333), but that Herschel has so little clearance and just immediately crashes into the block if not eaten.
EDIT: works in all timings except for the one that creates an unexpected interaction with the bottom Herschel

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x = 59, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
29bo$22b2o3b3o$16b2o5bo2bo$7bo7bo2bob3o3b2o$7b3o6bobobo$10bo4b2ob2o37b
o$3b2o4b2o45bobo$4bo51bobo$4bobo50bo$5b2o22b2o15bo$29b2o15bo$8b2o36b3o
$7bo2bo37bo$8bobo$9bo3$7b2o$3bobo2bo$b3ob3o$o3bo$obo2bo$b4o37b2o$42bo$
b2o37bobo$2bo37b2o$2bobo$3b2o22b2o$27b2o2$57b2o$51bo2b2o2bo$51bo3bobo$
49b2ob2obob2o$3bo29bob2o6b2o4bo3b2o$3bobo27b5o3b2o4b2obobo3b3o$3b3o27b
o4b2obo4bo2b2ob3o3bo$5bo28b2obo3bobobobo7b3o$25b3o6b2obobobo4b2ob4o2bo
$27bo9bo7bobobo2bo$20b2o5b2o9bo5b3o$20b2o17b2o$43b2o$44bo$27b2o13bo$
27b2o13b2o!

Doesn't work at all timings

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x = 59, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
29bo$22b2o3b3o$16b2o5bo2bo$7bo7bo2bob3o3b2o$7b3o6bobobo$10bo4b2ob2o$3b
2o4b2o$4bo$4bobo$5b2o22b2o$29b2o$8b2o$7bo2bo$8bobo$9bo3$7b2o$3bobo2bo
$b3ob3o$o3bo$obo2bo$b4o37b2o$42bo$b2o37bobo$2bo37b2o$2bobo$3b2o22b2o$
27b2o2$57b2o$54b2o2bo$50b2obobobo$50b2o3bob2o$3bo28bobo2bo9b2obobo2bo
$3bobo28bobo2bo7b2obobo2b4o$3b3o29b2o4b6o2b2ob3o3bo$5bo27bobob2o2b2o4b
o7b3o$37bobobobobobob4o2bo$34b2o3bo2bo4bobo2bo$20b2o18bo2b4o$20b2o15b
obo2bo$43b2o$44bo$27b2o13bo$27b2o13b2o!

Fine then... it's time to bring out the big guys. Surely it should work at all timings (273+) now, right?

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x = 53, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
33bo$26b2o3b3o$20b2o5bo2bo$11bo7bo2bob3o3b2o$11b3o6bobobo$14bo4b2ob2o$
7b2o4b2o$8bo$8bobo$9b2o22b2o15bo$33b2o15bo$12b2o36b3o$11bo2bo37bo$12bo
bo$13bo3$11b2o$7bobo2bo$5b3ob3o$4bo3bo$4bobo2bo$5b4o37b2o$46bo$5b2o37b
obo$6bo37b2o$6bobo$7b2o7$7bo$7bobo$7b3o$9bo2$48b2o$24b2o22bo$24b2o24bo
$2o28b2o14b5o$bo29bo13bo$31bobo12b3o$32b2o15bo$46b4o$29bo11b2o3bo3b2o$
27b3o11b2o4b3o2bo$26bo22bob2o$26b2o21bo$48b2o3$40b2o$40bo$41b3o$16b2o
25bo$15bobo5b2o$15bo7b2o$14b2o2$28bo$24b2obobo$23bobobobo$20bo2bobobob
ob2o$20b4ob2o2bo2bo$24bo4b2o$22bobo$22b2o!

[yyh_baboon]

P-to-strange stuff:(poor connectabitily though)

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 x = 22, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
11b3o$13bo$11b3o$18b2o$18bobo$9b2o9bo$4b2o2bo2bo8b2o$bo2bo4bobo$obobo
5bo$bo2bob2o$4bo2bo$5bo4bo$6b5o2$8bo$7bobo$8bo!

[NNlk05]

P-to-strange stuff:(poor connectabitily though)

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 x = 22, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
11b3o$13bo$11b3o$18b2o$18bobo$9b2o9bo$4b2o2bo2bo8b2o$bo2bo4bobo$obobo
5bo$bo2bob2o$4bo2bo$5bo4bo$6b5o2$8bo$7bobo$8bo!

See:

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x = 14, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
11b3o$13bo$11b3o3$9b2o$4b2o2bo2bo$bo2bo4bobo$obobo5bo$bo2bob2o$4bo2bo
$5bo4bo$6b5o2$8bo$7bobo$8bo!

[Timelord Missionary]

P-to-strange stuff:(poor connectabitily though)

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 x = 22, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
11b3o$13bo$11b3o$18b2o$18bobo$9b2o9bo$4b2o2bo2bo8b2o$bo2bo4bobo$obobo
5bo$bo2bob2o$4bo2bo$5bo4bo$6b5o2$8bo$7bobo$8bo!

Better:

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 x = 11, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
3o$2bo$3o$7b2o$7bobo$9bo$b2o6b2o$b2o!

also, people sometimes call the output object an e9jp. I have been lobbying for it to become a recognized conduit object.

[WhiteHawk]

P-to-strange stuff:(poor connectabitily though)

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Better:

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also, people sometimes call the output object an e9jp. I have been lobbying for it to become a recognized conduit object.

Thus, pi to Herschel (this may be known, it's very similar to speed tunnel). I do agree e9jp is a useful conduit object and perhaps should be investigated further

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x = 21, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
6b2ob2o$7bobo$2b2obo5bob2o$bobob2o3b2obobo$o6bobo6bo$7o3b7o2$2b3o7b3o
$bo2bo3bo3bo2bo$b2o4bobo4b2o$7bobo$8bo4$15b2o$15b2o3$6b3o$8bo$6b3o10b
2o$13b2o5bo$13bobob3o$15bobo$7b2o6b2o$7b2o!

EDIT: Yup. Known

PF*54H

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Pi-to-unidentified:

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[synperiplanar]

I do agree e9jp is a useful conduit object and perhaps should be investigated further

but what's the use for it outside of it being the intermediate of the speed tunnel

[Timelord Missionary]

I do agree e9jp is a useful conduit object and perhaps should be investigated further

but what's the use for it outside of it being the intermediate of the speed tunnel

Because... because I like it. And even if it doesn't show up quite as much as the others in random soups, it sure as heck shows up more often than you would think when looking at conduits and pi heptomino hasslers.

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

I do agree e9jp is a useful conduit object and perhaps should be investigated further

but what's the use for it outside of it being the intermediate of the speed tunnel

Because... because I like it. And even if it doesn't show up quite as much as the others in random soups, it sure as heck shows up more often than you would think when looking at conduits and pi heptomino hasslers.

e9jp is a bit of an unusual case where census.rle doesn't tell the full story. If you were to check census.rle, e9jp is positioned #531, which is so far down that you probably wouldn't expect any X-to-e9jp conduits at all. Here are some of the active regions that are about as common as e9jp in census.rle (minus the predecessors to more common active regions), and most of these have no known simple elementary conduits that convert into them:

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x = 666, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
2.D8.D6.D3.3D57.D8.D6.D4.3D56.D8.D6.D4.3D56.D8.D6.D3.4D56.D8.D6.D3.3D
57.D8.D3.3D3.5D56.D8.D3.3D7.D56.D8.D3.3D7.D56.D8.D3.3D5.D$.2D7.2D5.2D
2.D3.D55.2D7.2D5.2D3.D58.2D7.2D5.2D3.D58.2D7.2D5.2D3.D58.2D7.2D5.2D2.
D3.D55.2D7.2D2.D3.D2.D3.D55.2D7.2D2.D3.D5.2D55.2D7.2D2.D3.D5.2D55.2D
7.2D2.D3.D3.2D$2.D6.D.D4.D.D2.D3.D56.D6.D.D4.D.D2.D60.D6.D.D4.D.D2.D
60.D6.D.D4.D.D3.D59.D6.D.D4.D.D6.D56.D6.D.D6.D6.D56.D6.D.D6.D4.D.D56.
D6.D.D6.D4.D.D56.D6.D.D6.D4.D$2.D5.D2.D3.D2.D2.D3.D56.D5.D2.D3.D2.D2.
4D57.D5.D2.D3.D2.D2.4D57.D5.D2.D3.D2.D3.3D57.D5.D2.D3.D2.D5.D57.D5.D
2.D4.2D6.D57.D5.D2.D4.2D4.D2.D56.D5.D2.D4.2D4.D2.D56.D5.D2.D5.D5.D$2.
D4.D3.D2.D3.D3.4D56.D4.D3.D2.D3.D2.D3.D56.D4.D3.D2.D3.D2.D3.D56.D4.D
3.D2.D3.D6.D56.D4.D3.D2.D3.D4.D58.D4.D3.D6.D5.D57.D4.D3.D6.D2.D3.D56.
D4.D3.D6.D2.D3.D56.D4.D3.D4.D6.D$2.D4.6D.6D5.D56.D4.6D.6D.D3.D56.D4.
6D.6D.D3.D56.D4.6D.6D5.D56.D4.6D.6D2.D59.D4.6D5.D4.D58.D4.6D5.D2.6D
55.D4.6D5.D2.6D55.D4.6D2.D7.D$2.D8.D6.D5.D57.D8.D6.D2.D3.D56.D8.D6.D
2.D3.D56.D8.D6.D2.D3.D56.D8.D6.D2.D60.D8.D2.D3.D4.D58.D8.D2.D3.D6.D
56.D8.D2.D3.D6.D56.D8.D2.D8.D$5D5.3D4.3D.3D56.5D5.3D4.3D2.3D55.5D5.3D
4.3D2.3D55.5D5.3D4.3D2.3D55.5D5.3D4.3D.5D54.5D5.3D2.3D5.D56.5D5.3D2.
3D6.3D53.5D5.3D2.3D6.3D53.5D5.3D.5D2.5D35$12.3A78.A81.3A74.2A77.2E2.E
77.A79.A77.A3.A76.3A$11.2A2.A76.A.A80.A2.A72.A.A77.E2.2E76.2A77.A3.A
75.A3.2A74.A$12.A.2A75.2A2.A157.A5.3A70.E2.E75.2A78.A4.A74.A3.A76.3A$
91.A3.A75.2A3.3A74.A78.3E77.A.2A75.A4.A160.A$94.2A75.2A81.A239.3A159.
2A$416.A!

However, in conduits, e9jp almost always forms in one particular way, with a pi-heptomino (not necessarily a clean one) interacting with something positioned like so:

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x = 89, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
88bo$86b3o$45b2o18b2o18bo$5bo19bo19b2o18bobo17b2o$26bo39bo$2b3o17b3o
17b3o17b3o17b3o$bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$o5bo13bo5bo13bo5bo
13bo5bo13bo5bo$o5bo13bo5bo13bo5bo13bo5bo13bo5bo$3ob3o13b3ob3o13b3ob3o
13b3ob3o13b3ob3o!

Just by looking at random 8×8 soups, you wouldn't expect this interaction to occur all that often, but in conduits, this is a very natural place to put a eater 1. Therefore, we get more X-to-e9jp's than we expect from its position in census.rle alone (even excluding the dirty and periodic ones, there's still two known elementary X-to-e9jp conduits, which is more than other objects of similar rarity):

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x = 175, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
44.AB$44.B2A98.A$44.2A2B97.3A$45.4B44.A54.A$46.4B43.3A45.A5.2A$2.3D
42.4B3.3D39.A9.3D31.A.A4.4B7.3D$2.D2BD42.4B2.D2BD37.2A3.B5.D2BD30.A.A
6.2B7.D2BD$.D2B2D43.4BD2B2D37.8B2.D2B2D28.3A.2A4.4B5.D2B2D$.2D2BDB43.
3B2D2BDB38.8B2D2BDB26.A4.B5.4B3.2B2D2BDB$.3C4B43.9B37.15B26.3AB2AB2.
6B.10B$3.C4B43.9B36.16B28.A.2AB.18B$.3C4B43.9B34.18B2.2A28.20B$6B.B2A
41.2B2A3B.B2A30.18B2.BA2BA27.18B.B2A$6B.BA.A38.3BA2BA2B.BA.A29.2BC14B
3.BA2B30.16B.BA.A$4B6.A37.2A3BABAB5.A28.3BCBC4B.6B4.BAB32.14B5.A$2B2A
B5.2A32.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A28.2B3C4B2.B.5B2.BABA3.A25.16B5.2A$2.2A41.A.
A.2B6.2A33.4BC4B7.2A3.BA.A.2BA22.18B$44.A2.2AB7.A35.7B8.A6.A4BA22.2BC
15B2.2A$45.2A2.B8.3A48.3A3.B4A22.3BCBC4B.10BA.A$47.2A11.A50.A4.4B23.
2B3C4B2.4B2A2B3.A$47.A95.4BC4B2.3BA2BAB3.2A$48.A95.7B3.4B2AB$47.2A
107.2B.B$155.3B$155.B2AB$156.2A4$90.3D.3D.2D2.3D.3D.2D2.3D.3D13.2D2.
3D.2D2.3D.D.D7.2D2.D.D.3D$90.D.D.D3.D.D2.D2.D.D.D.D2.D2.D15.D.D2.D2.D
.D2.D2.D.D7.D.D.D.D2.D$90.3D.2D2.2D3.D2.D.D.D.D2.D2.D15.D.D2.D2.2D3.D
2.3D7.2D2.D.D2.D$90.D3.D3.D.D2.D2.D.D.D.D2.D2.D15.D.D2.D2.D.D2.D4.D2.
D4.D.D.D.D2.D$90.D3.3D.D.D.3D.3D.2D2.3D.3D13.2D2.3D.D.D2.D2.3D.D5.2D
2.3D2.D3$134.3D.3D.2D2.D.D.3D3.3D.2D2.2D2.D.D$134.D3.D.D.D.D.3D.D5.D
4.D3.D2.D.D$134.2D2.D.D.2D2.D.D.3D3.2D3.D3.D2.3D$134.D3.D.D.D.D.D.D3.
D3.D4.D3.D4.D$134.D3.3D.D.D.D.D.3D3.D3.3D.3D3.D3$130.D.D.3D.3D.D.D3.
3D.3D3.D.3D.D.D.3D.D.D$130.D.D2.D3.D2.D.D3.D3.D.D3.D.D.D.D.D3.D.D.D$
130.D.D2.D3.D2.3D3.2D2.3D3.D.3D.3D.3D.3D$130.3D2.D3.D2.D.D3.D5.D3.D.D
5.D.D3.D.D$130.D.D.3D2.D2.D.D3.3D.3D.3D.D5.D.3D.D.D!

And because e9jp is produced to the side and travels away from the eater 1 that perturbed the pi (shown in yellow), there are several known e9jp-to-X conduits (more periodic ones as well as ones that don't fit with the eater 1 are known as well):

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x = 86, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
62.2A.2A$63.A.A$58.2A.A5.A.2A$57.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$56.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$
56.7AB.B7A$41.A18.3B.B.3B$39.3A16.3AB.3B.B3A$.A36.A18.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$.
3A9.2A19.B3.2A17.2A3.BABAB3.2A$4.A8.A2.2A14.8B22.BABAB$3.2A5.A3.2A2.A
12.7B24.2BA2B.B$3.4B3.4A2.A.A12.8B24.B.B.5B3.2B2.2B$5.5B3.B.A.A13.9B
20.22BD$.2D9B2ABA14.11B18.23BDBD$2D5B3C2B2A2.A13.2D3B3C4B17.4B3C5B2A
9B3DB$.BD4BC2BCB3.2A14.DBDBC2BC3B17.4BC2BC4B2A11BD$2.4BC2B2CB20.2DC2B
2C3B18.2BC2B2C16B$4.2B2C.BCB20.2B2C.BC2B19.2B2C2BCB2.B2.3B.B$6.B31.3B
24.2B3$13.2E26.2E26.2E$13.E.E25.E.E25.E.E$15.E27.E27.E$15.2E26.2E26.
2E!

Note that this property is not unique to e9jp — a more common active region that has a similar phenomenon is the Herschel. Just by looking at census.rle alone, you would expect Herschels to be about as common as doves, butterflies, or octomino IIs. However, Herschels appear way more often in conduits than census.rle alone would suggest. This is because there is one particular way that almost all output Herschels in conduits form — by evolving out of a B-heptomino.

Indeed, conduits that directly output lone Herschels without going it evolving out of an internal B-heptomino are fairly rare (e.g. Fx158). However, there are a lot of conduits that output B-heptominos, whether clean, dirty, or through a sacrificial block. A clean B-heptomino can be turned into a Herschel using BFx59H, which itself contains an internal B-heptomino (e.g. L112, F117, Fx153). In the case of a dirty B-heptomino, the active region behind can remove the extra block from the B (e.g. R64, F116, F171). And some conduits have a transparent block placed exactly where a B would leave it while evolving into a Herschel (e.g. Fx77, Fx119, Fx176).

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x = 27, y = 44, rule = LifeHistory
6.A$4.3A$3.A$3.2A$4.B$4.3B$3.6B$2.10B$2.11B3.2B2.2B$2BC3B2A15BD$2B2C
2B2A7B2D6BDBD$.2B2C7B2D2B2D5B3DB$2.2C8B2DB2D8BD$2.13BD8B$4.13B.B$4.9B
6$6.4B$4.3BA5B3.2B2.2B$3.3BABA14BD$2.4BA2BA5B2D6BDBD$3.3BA2BA2B2D2B2D
5B3DB$5.3B2A2B2DB2D8BD$7.8BD8B$8.9B.B$10.3B6$9.B$8.5B3.2B2.2B$7.A15BD
$7.B2A5B2D6BDBD$7.A4B2C2B2D5B3DB$6.BA2BAB2CB2D8BD$6.BABA5BD8B$6.B2A2.
B2.3B.B$7.B!

And because the B-heptomino shoots out several cells in one direction while evolving into a Herschel, the output ends up having pretty good clearance, allowing for a lot of H-to-X conduits to connect (unlike objects like pi or century which tends to form in the middle of a reaction and thus have less connection).

[WhiteHawk]

but what's the use for it outside of it being the intermediate of the speed tunnel

And because the B-heptomino shoots out several cells in one direction while evolving into a Herschel, the output ends up having pretty good clearance, allowing for a lot of H-to-X conduits to connect (unlike objects like pi or century which tends to form in the middle of a reaction and thus have less connection).

I also think this can also be though of in the inverse, especially since B-heptominos end up being somewhat uncommon as conduit outputs (I don't think there is a good universal set of B-heptomino conduits that never evolve into herschels, even though the B itself is far more common in random soups and patterns - while there are hundreds if not thousands of interchangeable conduits whose outputs are pure herschels).

Additionally, I do think it would be easier to manipulate an active region into a more useful output that it is to reverse the input and attempt to get an output. That is why a bunch of new conduits appeared as soon as an H-to-E heptomino was found.

Likewise, if 1 more e9jp-producing reaction was discovered (lacking the known pi catalyst), it would likely result in a new set of connectable conduits since it probably would present very different characteristics from the known one.