Anivec wrote: August 27th, 2026, 8:28 pm
These are currently the only stable catalysts that are apart of an oscillator. If one is to finish one of these, an oscillator is more than likely synthesizable.
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x = 115, y = 88, rule = B3/S23
8b2o16b2o3b2obo25b2o16bo27b2o2b2o$9bo16bo2bo2bob3o23b2o15bobobo2bo21b
2o3bo$4b2obo19b4obo4bo17b2o20bobob4o15b2o9bob2o$5bob2o23bob2obo16bo2b
o2b2o13b2o2b2o19bo2bo6b2o2bo$3bo3bo17b7o2bobo18bobo3b3o12bobo3bo19b2o
2bo5bo$b3obo2bo16bo8bo18bobobobo4bo11bo2bob2o20bobobo2b2o$o4b4o19b2o3b
2o16b3o2bobob2obo13b2o24bo2b2o2bo$b3o24b2o20bo3b2o2bo2b2o39b2o7bo$3bo
b2o44b3o4b2o50b2o$4bobo46bo15$10b2o20b2o27b2o12b2o8b2o17b2obob2o$2o9b
o15b2obo2bo22b2obo2bo12bo2bob2obo2bo16bobob2obo$o2bo2bobo2bob2o13bob3o
22bobob2o15b3obob4o14bo2bobo$b6ob3o2bo14bo26bobobo26b3o11b3o2bo$13bo12b
3ob3o23bobo2bo16b4obobo2bo14b2o$3b2o5b3o12bo3b2o2bo18bobobobob2o16bo3b
2obo14b2o$3b2o5bo15b2o4b2o17bob2obobo20b2o3bo15bo$28b4o19bo3bo2bo22b3o
17bo$28bo2bo18b2o3bobo23bo18b2o$56bo16$6bo25b2o27b2o19b2obo21b2ob2o$5b
obo23bobo28bo19b2ob3o16bobob2obo$5bob3obo19bo23b2o5bob2o22bo14bob2o$3b
obo4b2o18b2o2bo20b2o2b2obo2bo16b2ob3o13b3o3bob2o$b3ob4o16b2obo3b3o25b
ob2o19bobo14bo3b3o3bo$o3bo3bob2o13b2ob4o28bo17b2obo19b3o3b3o$2o2bobob
o2bo20bo26b2o18bob2o20bo2bo$5b2ob2o15b6obo21b2obo21bo2bo23b2o$25bo5bo
18b2obobob4o15b2ob2o$27bobo20bob2o2bo3bo16bo$26b2ob2o23bobo2bo15bobo$
54b2o3b2o14b2o14$12b2o17bo3b2o$12bo15bobobo3bo$13bo12b3ob2o3bo$12b2o11b
o3bo4bo$14b2o10b2o2b5obo$2b2o3b2ob4o2bo11b2o5bobo$3bo2bobobo4bobo10bo
2bo2bo2bo$3o3bobobob2obobo12b2o3b2o$o2b4obobobo2b2o$3bo3bobobo2bo$4bo
2bobobob2o$3b2o3b2obo$11bo$11b2o!
Here's two of them that already had synths, just not in isolation. Do you know which oscillators they come from? I know the top from at least a
synthesized p18 and an
unsynthesized p65 that's waiting on another from your list. I think I remember the second one, but not where from exactly. Edit: second one from
p33 pi hassler.
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x = 907, y = 261, rule = B3/S23
78bo$78bobo$78b2o10$770bo$769bo$769b3o4$621bo$619b2o$620b2o113bobo$579b
o156b2o$580b2o154bo35bobo$579b2o191b2o$186bo586bo$185bo287bo$185b3o285b
obo$473b2o2$293bobo$294b2o$294bo10$739b2o$738bo2bo$739b2o6$322b3o132b
o4b3o142bo4b3o132bo4b3o126b2o$456bobo147bobo137bobo132bo$326b2o128bob
o7b2o138bobo7b2o128bobo7b2o108bo16bo2bo$326b2o129bo8b2o139bo8b2o129bo
8b2o109bo14b5o$865b3o$164bo159bo139bo137b2o10bo127b2o10bo129bo$163bob
o157bobo137bobo135bo2bo8bobo125bo2bo8bobo127bobo$164b2o158b2o138b2o136b
2o10b2o126b2o10b2o128b2o3$39bo2bob2obo111bo2bob2obo151bo2bob2obo131bo
2bob2obo141bo2bob2obo131bo2bob2obo121bo2bob2obo$39b4obob2o111b4obob2o
151b4obob2o131b4obob2o141b4obob2o131b4obob2o102b2o17b4obob2o$43bo119b
o159bo139bo149bo139bo107b2o20bo$41bo119bo159bo139bo149bo139bo108bo6b2o
12bo$41b2o118b2o158b2o138b2o148b2o138b2o115b2o11b2o$867bo3$183b3o$183b
o$184bo112bo$297b2o$b3o292bobo$3bo192b2o$2bo192b2o$197bo2$3o$2bo$bo2$
422bo$422b2o$421bobo3$421b2o$420bobo$422bo2$701b2o$700bobo$702bo109$586b
o$587bo$585b3o6$738bo126bo$736bobo124bobo$737b2o125b2o38bo$904bobo$771b
o7bo124b2o$771bobo5bobo$771b2o6b2o2$906bo$616bo287b2o$616bobo286b2o$616b
2o12$882bo$748b2o128b2obobo$748b2o128b2ob2o2$608b2o138b2o128b2ob2o$609b
o6b2o131bo129bobobo$604b2obo7b2o127b2obo126b2obo4bo$605bob2o8bo127bob
2o126bob2o$605bo2bo136bo2bo126bo2bo$602b2ob2o135b2ob2o125b2ob2o$603bo
139bo129bo$601bobo137bobo127bobo$601b2o138b2o128b2o8$776b2o$776bobo$776b
o$771b2o$770b2o$772bo2$737b2o$738b2o$737bo!
I'm pretty sure you can get from
xs23_c88mhf033zbd to
xs25_c88mhf03213zbd (edit: yes), but the first one doesn't have a synth on catagolue even though it's 23-bits, so that must be one of the "trivial" ones that was on a separate database. Can someone point it out?
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x = 48, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o2$5bo$6b2o39bo$5b2o38b2o$46b2o$41bo$41bobo$41b2o19$27b2o$27b
2o2$27b4o$27bo3bo$28b2obo$30bo$30bobob2o$29b2ob2obo!
And for context, I know that two of them are used in
this p162 pi shuttle.
Here's the easier of the two in the p162, but that last step doesn't have enough clearance to fit against the harder one assuming this comes second.
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x = 311, y = 62, rule = B3/S23
265bo$263bobo$264b2o43bo$308bo$260bo47b3o$258bobo$259b2o3$128bo$126bo
bo$127b2o4$6bo$4bobo$5b2o11$35b2o118b2o138b2o$36bo113bo5bo139bo$33bo2b
ob2o109bobobo2bob2o128bo2bobo2bob2o$33b3o2bo111b2ob3o2bo129b4ob3o2bo$
38bo119bo139bo$35b3o117b3o130b2o5b3o$35bo119bo132b2o5bo12$9b2o$8bobo$
10bo$124b2o$123bobo$9bo115bo$b2o6b2o117b2o122b2o$obo5bobo118b2o122b2o
4b3o$2bo125bo123bo8bo$260bo4$257bo$257b2o$256bobo!
2026-08-30:
Another one. Lefthand clump of steps from catagolue. Also lowers cost of
xs28_xdb8o6piczcc0f9 by 1G, to 37G. Edit: May13
basically already found this on November 24th, 2024. Missed it somehow.
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x = 1395, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
1215bobo$1123bobo90b2o$1123b2o12bo78bo55bo$1124bo10b2o133b2o$1136b2o133b
2o$1082bo$1080bobo$1081b2o270bo$1351bobo$698bo653b2o$485bo213b2o691bo
$485bobo10bo199b2o692bobo$485b2o10bo250bo643b2o$497b3o247bo604bo$455b
o239bo51b3o151bo213bo152bo81bobo$456b2o238bo205bo211bo152bo83b2o$455b
2o237b3o203b3o211b3o150b3o$566bo$564bobo$565b2o355bo$912bo8bo$910bobo
8b3o$911b2o3$920bo$10bo903bobo2bo$2bo6bo8bo896b2o2b3o$obo6b3o4b2o897b
o$b2o14b2o155bo60bo$173bo61bobo778bo4bobo$12bo50b2o47b2o48b2o4bo4b3o48b
2o9b2o778bo5b2o$3bo6b2o38bo13bo48bo49bo3bo57bo789b3o4bo86b2o126b2ob2o
135b2o$4b2o5b2o38bo4bob2ob3o3bo37bob2ob3o42bob2ob3o4b3o47bob2ob3o783b
2o98bobo127bob2o136bo$3b2o44b3o4b2obobo5bobo35b2obobo44b2obobo56b2obo
bo598bo186bo99bo129bo139bob2o$59bo7b2o31bo7bo49bo61bo256b2o126b2ob2o125b
2ob2o79bobo13b2ob2o75b2ob2o85b2obo96b2obo126b2obo136b2obo2bo$59b2o40b
2o5b2o48b2o60b2o5bobo246bobo127bob2o126bob2o80b2o14bob2o76bob2o86bob2o
96bob2o126bob2o136bob2o$11b3o86b2o4b2o48b2o60b2o7b2o247bo129bo129bo99b
o79bo89bo99bo129bo139bo$11bo93bobo49bo59bo2bobo5bo246b2o128b2o128b2o98b
2o78b2o88b2o98b2o128b2o138b2o$12bo93bo48bo61b2o2b2o247b2obo126b2obo126b
2obo84bo6b2o3b2obo76b2obo86b2obo13b3o80b2obo126b2obo136b2obo$111bobo30b
obo8b2o312bobob4o122bobob4o119b2obobob4o82bo5bobobobob4o69b2obobob4o79b
2obobob4o10bo78b2obobob4o119b2obobob4o129b2obobob4o$111b2o32b2o322bo2b
o3bo122bo2bo3bo119b2obo2bo3bo80b3o8b2o2bo3bo69bob2o2bo3bo79bob2o2bo3b
o11bo77bob2o2bo3bo119bob2o2bo3bo129bob2o2bo3bo$52b3o9bo42b2o3bo32bo82b
o241bobo2bo124bobo2bo124bobo2bo94bobo2bo74bobo2bo84bobo2bo94bobo2bo124b
obo2bo134bobo2bo$54bo8b2o42bobo117b2o242bo3b2o124bo3b2o124bo3b2o84bo8b
2o3b2o73b2o3b2o83b2o3b2o93b2o3b2o123b2o3b2o133b2o3b2o$53bo9bobo41bo119b
obo591b2o$820bobo$104b2o41b2o23b2o$57b2o46b2o41b2o22bobo426bo$56bobo45b
o42bo24bo408b3o16b2o$58bo96b3o8b3o37b3o4b2o4bo363bo16bobo$157bo4bo3bo
41bo3bobo3b2o362bo$60bo95bo5b2o3bo39bo6bo3bobo229b3o620b2o$59b2o100bo
bo288bo619bobo$59bobo389bo622bo$213bo$207b3o3b2o$209bo2bobo$208bo481b
2o$691b2o$690bo2$699bo$221b3o475b2o572bo$223bo474bobo571b2o$222bo1049b
obo3$702b2o$703b2o46bo$702bo47b2o466b2o$750bobo464bobo$1219bo!
Anivec wrote: June 7th, 2024, 12:03 pm
May13 wrote: June 7th, 2024, 11:08 am
I've already done a quick check (4 or 8 still lifes in queue, I don't remember) and haven't made much progress. Maybe I'll do this tomorrow with bigger queue (the search process is quite long). Right now I'm testing automatic 22-bit still life synthesis search.
The user affamatodidio made a suggestion for what the steps may look like:
EDIT
Alternative solutions:
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x = 163, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
27b2o22b2o$4b2o20bo2bo18b2o2bo17b2ob2o17b2ob2o17b2ob2o17b2ob2o17b2ob2o
$bobobo17bobob3o15bobob3o15bobob2obo14bobob2obo14bobob2obo14bobob2obo
14bobob2obo$ob2o18bob2o18bob2o18bob2o15bo2bob2o15bo2bob2o15bo2bob2o18b
ob2o$o3bo17bo3bob2o14bo3bob2o14bo3bob2o11b4o3bob2o11b4o3bob2o11b4o3bo
b2o12b3o3bob2o$b3o2bo16b3o3bo15b3o3bo15b3o3bo15b3o3bo15b3o3bo15b3o3bo
11bo3b3o3bo$4b3o19b3o19b3o19b3o14bobo2b3o14b2o3b3o12b4o3b3o13b3o3b3o$
3bo21bo21bo21bo17b2o3bo15bobo2bo15bo2bo2bo18bo2bo$3b2o20b2o20b2o20b2o
38bo3b2o20b2o20b2o!
2 steps back
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x = 202, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
199bo$199bobo$199b2o$149bobo$150b2o$150bo$197bo$145bobo48bo$146b2o48b
3o$146bo12$156bobo$157b2o$157bo$169bo15bo$167bobo14bo$158bo9b2o3bobo3b
o4b3o$159b2o13b2o3bobo$158b2o14bo4b2o2$171bo$172bo$170b3o$34b2ob2o145b
2ob2o$31bobob2obo142bobob2obo$27bo2bob2o143bo2bob2o$27b4o3bob2o139b4o
3bob2o$31b3o3bo143b3o3bo$29b2o3b3o140b4o3b3o$28bobo2bo143bo2bo2bo$29b
o3b2o148b2o2$170b3o$172bo$171bo2$174bo4b2o$174b2o3bobo$168b2o3bobo3bo
$167bobo$169bo$156b2o$155bobo$157bo5$6b2o$7b2o$2o4bo$b2o40b2o$o42bobo
$43bo2$146bo$146b2o48b3o$145bobo48bo$197bo$150bo$150b2o$149bobo$199b2o
$199bobo$199bo!
maybe useful? (saw these steps in
xs22_8ehe8gzw12ehe2)
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x = 132, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
29bo$29bobo$29b2o3$21bo$19b2o$20b2o8$24b2ob2o95b2ob2o$21bobob2obo92bo
bob2obo$20bob2o93bo2bob2o$18b3o3bob2o89b4o3bob2o$17bo3b3o3bo93b3o3bo$
18bobo3b3o90b2obo3b3o$19b2o2bo93bob2o2bo$23b2o98b2o8$bo$b2o$obo2$105b
2o$106b2o$2b2o101bo$bobo125b3o$3bo125bo$29bo100bo$28b2o$28bobo!
a cheaper step
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x = 50, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o$11bo$12b2o$11b2o10$35b2ob2o$32bobob2obo$28bo2bob2o$28b4o3b
ob2o$32b3o3bo$30b2o3b3o$29bobo2bo$30bo3b2o2$7b3o$9bo$8bo15$44b2o$4bo38b
2o$4b2o39bo$3bobo42bo$47b2o$47bobo!
if only there was a way to do both these steps at once, but the envelopes are badly overlapping
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x = 57, y = 114, rule = LifeHistory
51.A$51.A.A$51.2A3$48.A.A$48.2A$49.A2$45.A$43.2A$44.2A10$21.2A$18.A.A
.A$17.A.2A$15.3A3.A.2D$14.A3.3A2.AD$15.A.A3.3A$16.2A2.A$20.2A16$44.3A
$44.A$45.A11$43.A.A$43.2A$44.A5$47.A$2.A44.A.A$A.A44.2A$.2A36.A$39.A.
A$39.2A$48.A$46.2A$47.2A2$54.A$54.A.A$54.2A15$21.2A.2D$18.A.A.AD.D$17.
A.2A$15.3A3.A$14.A3.3A2.A$15.A.A3.3A$16.2A2.A$20.2A7$46.2A$45.2A$47.A
4$49.3A$49.A$50.A!