Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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p78 glider gun reduced to 37x41 (1517-cell BB) achieved by heavily optimising the p3 catalyst in the previously posted p78 gun design into a much smaller size:

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x = 37, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
17b2o5b2o2b2o3b2o$13b2obo2bob2o2bo2bobobobo$14bob2obobob2o5bobo$13bo2b
o2bo3bo5b2o2bo$13b2o3bob2obo6b2obo$17b2obobo7bo2b2o$17bo8b2o2b3o2bo$
19b3o3bo7bobo$15b4o6bobob2ob2ob2o$14bobo2bo2bob2o7bobo$14bo2b3o2bo4bo
5bobo$13b2obobo3bo2b3o3b3ob2o$11bo2bob2o3bo3bo4bo$11b2o8bo8b2o$35b2o$
35bo$33bobo$33b2o$8b2o16bo$8bobo14bobo$11bo2b2o8bo3bo$9b2obo2bo8bo3bo
6b2o$8bobob2o10bo3bo6b2o$9bo15bobo$2b2o22bo$3bo$3bobo17b2o7b2o$4b2o18b
o2bo4bobo$22bobobo2bo4bo$21bobobo8b2o$21bobo2b2ob3o$12b2o4b2obobo6bobo
$12bobo3bobobo7bobo$13bo6bo9b3obo$3b2o15b2o7b3o$3bo25bo3bobo$2obo5bobo
12b2o3b2o5bo$ob2ob2o3b2o12bo2bobo5b2o$5bo4bo15b2o2bo$5bobo21b2o$6b2o!
In fact, this design is actually small enough to somehow reduce the p39 glider gun from 39x27 (1053-cell BB) to 40x24 (960-cell BB):

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x = 40, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
8bo2bo2bo6b2o13b2o$6b6o2b3o4b2o6bo7bo$2o3bo11bo9b3o4bobo$o2b3ob5o4b2o
8bo6b2o$b2o3bobo2bo14b2o3b3o$4bobo4bobo16bo4bo$b2o3bo5b2o9b2o5bobo3bob
2o$o2bobobo21b2obobob2obo$2o5bobo11bo7bo5bo$7bo2b2o8bobo6bo7b2o$6bo12b
2ob2o4bobo7bo$2o5b3ob2o7bobo6bo6bo$obo6b2o10bo4b3o7b2o$2b3o4bo16bo2b3o
$bo3bo4b3o15bo2bo$b4o3bob3o16b2o$4b2obo$b3o3bob3o$o3b2o2bo$obo2b2obo3b
o$b3o4bob3o13bo$8bo18b2o$b2obo4b6o11b2o$bob2o6bo2bo!
Edit: p39 gun reduced to 38x24 (912-cell BB):

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x = 38, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
8bo2bo2bo6b2o$6b6o2b3o4b2o6bo$2o3bo11bo9b3o2b2o$o2b3ob5o4b2o8bo6b3o$b
2o3bobo2bo14b2o3bo4bo$4bobo4bobo16bob3obo$b2o3bo5b2o9b2o5bo$o2bobobo
21b2o2bobo$2o5bobo11bo7bo3bo$7bo2b2o8bobo6bo$6bo12b2ob2o4bo2b2o$2o5b3o
b2o7bobo6b4o$obo6b2o10bo4b3o2b3ob2o$2b3o4bo16bo2b3o5bo$bo3bo4b3o15bo4b
o2bo$b4o3bob3o16b3o3bo$4b2obo24b4obo$b3o3bob3o19bo4b2o$o3b2o2bo23b3o$o
bo2b2obo3bo21bob2o$b3o4bob3o13bo8bobo$8bo18b2o$b2obo4b6o11b2o$bob2o6bo
2bo!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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A slightly modified rotor could probably solve this:

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x = 33, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
8.A2.A2.A6.2A$6.6A2.3A3.B2AB5.A$2A3.A11.A2.4B3.3A$A2.3A.5A4.2A3.2B3.A
$.2A3.A.A2.A4.7B2.B2A$3.BA.A4.A.AB3.10B$.6ABA3.2AB.10B$A2.A.B.BA5.12B
$2A5.B.2B3.6B3A3B$6.ABA.2A.6BA3BA3B3.2A$6.A2.B.A6BA5BA2B2.A2.A$2A5.3A
.2A.5BA3BA3BA2.2A$A.A6.A10B3A3BAB2A$2.3A4.B2.13B.BA2.2A$.A3.A3.3AB2.B
3.5B2.2B2A2.A$.2ABA.BA4B2A5.5B3.B.B.2A$4.2ABA4.B7.5B2.B2A.A$.3A3.A.2A
B9.5B.BAB.A$A3.2A2.A.2A8.5B4.2A$A.A2.2A.A.A.A.C4.8B$.3A4.2AB2A.A3.4B3.
2A$8.A4.A3.4B4.A$.2A.A4.4A3.4B6.3A$.A.2A5.A4.4B9.A$8.A6.3B$8.2A5.3B!

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#C [[ THEME Golly ]]
x = 27, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
8.A$A6.A.A$3A4.BA2B.B2D$3.A4.2B.2B2DB$2.2A2.3B.6B2.3B$2.20B$4.19B$4.2B
C10BD4B$4.2B2C10BD4B$4.B2C11B2D3B$4.13B2D4B$5.12BD3B.B2A$6.13B3.BA.A$
6.3B.B3.B10.A$25.2A!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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It can in fact be done: (33x26 (858-cell BB) p39 gun)

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x = 33, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
10b2o6bo2bo2bo$3bo6b2o4b3o2b6o$3b3o9bo11bo3b2o$6bo8b2o4b5ob3o2bo$5b2o
14bo2bobo3b2o$19bobo4bobo$8b2o9b2o5bo3b2o$25bobobo2bo$11bo11bobo5b2o$b
2o7bobo8b2o2bo$o2bo5b2ob2o12bo$b2o2bo4bobo7b2ob3o5b2o$3b2obo4bo10b2o6b
obo$b2o2bo17bo4b3o$o2b2o15b3o4bo3bo$2o18b3obo3b4o$bob2o20bob2o$bo2bo
16b3obo3b3o$2b2o13b2o5bo2b2o3bo$12bo4bo2bo3bob2o2bobo$6b2o5b2o3bob3obo
4b3o$7bo4b2o5bo4bo$4b3o13b4o4bob2o$4bo17bo5b2obo$24bo$23b2o!
Edit: And a small population reduction to help optimisation just a tiny bit more: (Still a 33x26 design)

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x = 33, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
10b2o6bo$3bo6b2o4b3o6b2o$3b3o9bo6bo2bobo3b2o$6bo8b2o4bobobob3o2bo$5b2o
14bo2bobo3b2o$19bobo4bobo$8b2o9b2o5bo3b2o$25bobobo2bo$11bo11bobo5b2o$b
2o7bobo8b2o2bo$o2bo5b2ob2o12bo$b2o2bo4bobo7b2ob3o5b2o$3b2obo4bo10b2o6b
obo$b2o2bo17bo4b3o$o2b2o15b3o4bo3bo$2o18b3obo3b4o$bob2o20bob2o$bo2bo
16b3obo3b3o$2b2o13b2o5bo2b2o3bo$12bo4bo2bo3bob2o2bobo$6b2o5b2o3bob3obo
4b3o$7bo4b2o5bo4bo$4b3o13b4o4bob2o$4bo17bo5b2obo$24bo$23b2o!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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yyh_baboon wrote: July 26th, 2026, 2:00 am
WhiteHawk wrote: July 23rd, 2026, 12:35 pm The last two have this awful-looking weld (done by hand) if anyone wants to try and reduce it
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Reduction:

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 x = 20, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2b2ob2o$bobobo$3bo2bo11b2o$o2bob2o7b2o3bo$2o12bo2bo$3ob3o5b2o2b3o$bob
o2bo4bo2b2o$3bobo5bobo2b3o$3bob2o2b2obob2o2bo$2bo2bo2bo3bo3b2o$3b2o2b
2ob2ob2o$8bobo2bo$7bo3bo2bo$8b3ob2o$10bobo$13bo$11b3o$10bo$10b2o!
Here is some further reduction (JLS):

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x = 20, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$bobo$3bob2o11b2o$o2bo2bo2bo4b2o3bo$2o4bobobo3bo2bo$3obobo2bo6b3o$
bobob2o5b4o$3bo7bo4b3o$3bo7bob3o2bo$2bo9bo3b2o$3b3o7b2o$5bo5bobo$9b3o
2bo$8bo3b2o$7bo2bobo$8b3o2bo$11b3o$10bo$10b2o!
And more reduction that also reduces the guns' BB (3520 -> 3397 for both):

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x = 79, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$16bo$16bob2o3b2o37b2o$17bobo4bo36bo2bo12b2o$6b2o11bob3o10b2ob2o
23b2o13bo$7bo10b2obo11bobobo11b2o24bobo$7bobo25bo2bo6b2o3bo24b2o$8b2o
4b3o15bo2bob2o6bo2bo8bo12bo$13bo3bo14b2o8bo4b3o6bobo10bobo$12bo5bo13b
3ob3o3b5o9bobo11bo$13bo3bo15bobo2bo8b3o7bo17b2o$14b3o18bobo6b3o2bo25bo
bo$35bob2o4bo3b2o28bo$18bo15bo2bo2bobob2o31b2o$2o14bo2bo4bo10b2o2b2obo
bo$bo9b3o2bobo3b2obo16bo2bo$bobo6bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo12bob2ob2o24b2o$2b2o
6bob2o3bobo2b3o13b2obobo20b2o4bo$11bo4bo2bo24bo19b2o3bo$17bo24b3o23bo$
35bo5bo22b5obo$19b3o14bo4b2o12bo8bo4bobo$18bo3bo11b3o17bobo9bo2bobo$
17bo5bo30bobo8b2o3bo$18bo3bo6b2o24bo$19b3o4b2o2bo28b2o$26bob2o29bobo$
14bob2o10bo32bo$12b3obo11bo2b2o28b2o$11bo4bobo8b2obobo5b2o$11b2o3b2obo
7bo2bo7b2o$19bo9b2o$19b2o4$38b2ob2o$34b2o2b2obo3b2o$34bo6bobo2bo$35b7o
b2o$42bo20bo$37b4obo21bo$37bo2b2o20b3o!

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x = 79, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$16bo$16bob2o3b2o37b2o$17bobo4bo36bo2bo12b2o$6b2o11bob3o10b2ob2o
23b2o13bo$7bo10b2obo11bobobo11b2o24bobo$7bobo25bo2bo6b2o3bo24b2o$8b2o
4b3o15bo2bob2o6bo2bo8bo12bo$13bo3bo14b2o8bo4b3o6bobo10bobo$12bo5bo13b
3ob3o3b5o9bobo11bo$13bo3bo15bobo2bo8b3o7bo17b2o$14b3o18bobo6b3o2bo25b
obo$35bob2o4bo3b2o28bo$18bo15bo2bo2bobob2o31b2o$2o14bo2bo4bo10b2o2b2o
bobo$bo9b3o2bobo3b2obo16bo2bo$bobo6bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo12bob2ob2o24b2o$2b
2o6bob2o3bobo2b3o13b2obobo20b2o4bo$11bo4bo2bo24bo19b2o3bo$17bo24b3o23b
o$35bo5bo22b5obo$19b3o14bo4b2o12bo8bo4bobo$18bo3bo11b3o17bobo9bo2bobo
$17bo5bo30bobo8b2o3bo$18bo3bo6b2o24bo$19b3o4b2o2bo28b2o$26bob2o29bobo
$14bob2o10bo32bo$12b3obo11bo2b2o28b2o$11bo4bobo8b2obobo5b2o25b2o$11b2o
3b2obo7bo2bo7b2o25b2o$19bo9b2o$19b2o$65b3o$66b2o$63b2o$38b2ob2o20b3o$
34b2o2b2obo3b2o17bobo$34bo6bobo2bo18b2o$35b7ob2o$42bo20bo$37b4obo21bo
$37bo2b2o20b3o!
Also a population reduction to the p39 gun catalyst that allows me to orient the gun correctly:
EDIT: Irrelevant, because it was already reduced more.

EDIT 2:
I reduced guntrue_159 by flipping the tremi-snark (3496 -> 3128) and a large population reduction to guntrue_162 (reduced huge p3 weld).
Also, reduction to guntrue_380 via a 5x period multiplied guntrue_76, instead of a glider loop (3472 -> 2891):

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x = 58, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
40bo7bo$41b2o3b3o$6b2o3b2o26b2o4bo$6bobobobo28bo3b2o$8bobo$7bobobo2b2o
$11bo2bobo22b2o$9bob2obo2bo20bobo$11bo2b3o22bo$7bo3b3o29bo11bo$11bo2bo
28b2o8b3o$8b3o2b2o26bo2bo7bo$29b2o10b6o5b2o$30bo10b3o$29bo$9b2o18b4o$
2o6bo2bo6b2o12bo7bo$bo7b2o7bo8b3o9bo2b3o10b2o$bobo12bobo7bo2bo10bo3b2o
9b2o$2b2o12b2o8b2o13bo2b2o$43bo2$39b2o9b2o$22b2o8b2o5b2o9b2o2b2o$22b2o
8b2o20bobo$56bo$29bo26b2o$27b2o2bo13b2o$27b2o3bo10bo2bo$8bo19b3o2bo9b
3o$7bobo22bo7bo$7bobo30b4o$8bo34bo$12b2o15b3o10bo$12bobo5bo5b6o10b2o$
14bo5bo7bo2bo$14b2o3b3o6b2o$29bo$33bo$32bobo$18b5o9b2o$17bob3obo$17bob
obobo11bo$16b2obobob2o5bo2bo2bo$18bob2o4b5o2bo2bo$18bo4b3o5b2obo$19b3o
bo7b2o$21bo2bobo2bob2o$22b2o4bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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ElijahKen wrote: July 27th, 2026, 1:56 pm EDIT 2:
I reduced guntrue_159 by flipping the tremi-snark (3496 -> 3128) and a large population reduction to guntrue_162 (reduced huge p3 weld).
Also, reduction to guntrue_380 via a 5x period multiplied guntrue_76, instead of a glider loop (3472 -> 2891):

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x = 58, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
40bo7bo$41b2o3b3o$6b2o3b2o26b2o4bo$6bobobobo28bo3b2o$8bobo$7bobobo2b2o
$11bo2bobo22b2o$9bob2obo2bo20bobo$11bo2b3o22bo$7bo3b3o29bo11bo$11bo2bo
28b2o8b3o$8b3o2b2o26bo2bo7bo$29b2o10b6o5b2o$30bo10b3o$29bo$9b2o18b4o$
2o6bo2bo6b2o12bo7bo$bo7b2o7bo8b3o9bo2b3o10b2o$bobo12bobo7bo2bo10bo3b2o
9b2o$2b2o12b2o8b2o13bo2b2o$43bo2$39b2o9b2o$22b2o8b2o5b2o9b2o2b2o$22b2o
8b2o20bobo$56bo$29bo26b2o$27b2o2bo13b2o$27b2o3bo10bo2bo$8bo19b3o2bo9b
3o$7bobo22bo7bo$7bobo30b4o$8bo34bo$12b2o15b3o10bo$12bobo5bo5b6o10b2o$
14bo5bo7bo2bo$14b2o3b3o6b2o$29bo$33bo$32bobo$18b5o9b2o$17bob3obo$17bob
obobo11bo$16b2obobob2o5bo2bo2bo$18bob2o4b5o2bo2bo$18bo4b3o5b2obo$19b3o
bo7b2o$21bo2bobo2bob2o$22b2o4bo!
Related reductions

guntrue_760 (3696 -> 2989)
guntrue_477 (4104 -> 3772) - the old one used a bronco and a nifty p3 bumper

Both previous designs

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x = 66, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
31b2o$30bobo$24b2o4bo$22bo2bo2b2ob4o$22b2obobobobo2bo$25bobobobo$25bo
bob2o$26bo2$39b2o$30b2o7bo$30b2o5bobo$37b2o2$9bo$9b3o$12bo$11b2o2$27b
2o$3b2o23bo27bo$3bo21b3o22b2o3bobo$2obo21bo25bo3bo2bo$o2b3o4b2o39bob2o
bobo$b2o3bo3b2o40bobobob2o$3b4o48b2obo2bo$3bo15b2o39b2o$4b3o12bobo$7b
o13bo$2b5o14b2o15b2o5b2o$2bo36bo5bobo$4bo19b2o13bobo3bo$3b2o19bo15b2o
16b2o$26bo31b2o$25b2o2$11b2o$12bo45b2o$12bob2o42b2o$13bo2bo$14b2o$29b
2o$29b2o$62b2o$58bo3bobo$57bobo3b3o$58bo5b2o$37bo3b2o18b2o$36bobo3bo18b
3o$32b2obobo3bo$32b2obo4bo7b2o$36b5obo4bobo12b2o$28b2obob2obo4bobo3bo
14b2o$28bob2obo2bob2o2bo3b2o11bo$21b2o12b2obob2o18bo$21b2o35b3o!

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x = 76, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
64b2o$64b2o2$74b2o$74bo$72bobo$72b2o$56b2o$46b2o8b2o$47bo$47bobo22b2o
$25b2o16b2o3b2o22bobo$9b2o14bo17bo30bo$9b2o12bobo18bo29b2o$23b2o18b2o
$9b4o$9bo3bo56b2o$12bo57b2o$12bobo$13b2o$9b2o29b2o$9bo30b2o$7bobo$7b2o
$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o3$6b2o43b2o$5bo2bo43bo$6bobo40b3o$7bo41bo23b2o$73b2o$
60b2o$6bo48b2o2bo2bo$b2o3bo45bo2bo4bobo7b2o$bo2b3obo42bobobo5bo8bobob
2o$2b3o4b2o41bo2bob2o9bobob2obo$5bo2bo46bo2bo9b2o$bob2o2bobobo13b2o11b
o17bo4bo$b2obob2obo2b2o12b2o8b3o18b5o$4bo2bobo3bobo9bo9bo$4b2o2bo7bo18b
2o22bo$15b2o4b2o11b2o22bobo$9bo10b3o10b2o24bo$4b2o3bobo8bo2bo6bo3bo$4b
o2bo5b2o5b2obo4b3ob3o$5b6ob3o6b2o10bo$10bobo2bo12b6o$7b2obobo2bo2b2o8b
2obo23bo$7b2obobo2bo3bo7b2o27bo$11bo5b2o35b3o!
Last edited by WhiteHawk on July 31st, 2026, 4:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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guntrue_18 reduced by one column with LLS (3400 -> 3350):

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x = 67, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
30b2o4bo$31bo3bobo$31bob3obo$32bo3bo9b2o13b2o$34bo9bo2bo3b2o3b2o4bo$33b
3o6b4obob3obo2bo2b3o$36bo4bo4bobo4bo3bobo$31b3ob3o4b2o2bo2b2obob4obob
3o$29b2o3bo4b2obob3o2b2obo8bo2bo$27bo2b3o2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bob2o2b2o5b2o$
27b5obobo7bob2ob2obo3bobo$23b2o7b2obob7o2bobo2b3o3bobo$b2o21bo2b4o2bo
b2o7b2o3b2o3b4ob3o$bobo20bobobo9b2o2b2o7b2o9bo$2b2o3b2obo2b2o6bob2obo
2b2o3b4o2bo2bo7bob3o5b2o$3bob3ob2o2b2o4b3obo2bo5bobo2bo2b2o13bo$bob2o
2bo10bo6b2ob3obo$obob3o2b8o2b6o2b2o4bo$bo5bobo7b2o6bo2bo3bo5bo8b2o$7b
2o2b2o2bo3bob2obo4bo2bo3b3o9bo2b2o$3b2o2bo3bo4bob2obobo2bo3bo4bo12bob
o2bo$3bo2b3obobo3bo4bo2b4o6bobo8b2obo2b2o2bo2bo$8b2o3bo7bo7b2ob3obo7b
o2bob2o2b6o$b2ob3o3b3o3bo2bob2o7bob4o8b2obo4bo$4b2ob2obo2b7obo7b2o16b
o2b2ob3ob4o$bo2b2o2bo2bobo7bobo3b2obo11b2o3bobo3bobobo2bo$o3bobo2b2o2b
o2b4o2bobobob4o2bo5b4o4b6obo$obobob2obo3bobo4b2o2bobo3bo3b2o3b2obo2bo
bobo4bobo$bobo5bo4bo3b2o2b2o2b7ob2o4b2o2b2obob2ob2o2bo$2bo6b2o4b2ob3o
3b2o3bo10b2o3bobobo3bobo$7b2o2bo6bo3b2o2b3o6b4o5bo2bo2b3o2b2o$8bobo2b
3o2b2o3bobo2bo5bo6bobo3bo5b2o$8bo2b2o2b3o5bob2ob2o4bobo2bobobobob2o3b
o2b2o$7b2obo7b5obo3bob3o4bobobob2obo6bo3bo3b2o$6bo3b3o2b2o9b2ob4ob3o2b
2obo3bo7b2o2bo3bo$7b3o3bo2b2o2b6obo4b3o2b2o3bo3bob2ob3o2b2o3bo$10b2ob
2o12bobo4bobo2b3o3b2ob2obo2bobo4b4o$9bo2bo2b3ob4ob2ob2ob2ob2o2bo6bo8b
2obo2b2o3bo$7b3obo2bo2b8obo3b2o2b2obob3o2bo8bo2bobo2bo$6bo4bob2o14bo7b
obo2bob2o5b3o2bobobo$6b5obo14bo2bo3b2obobob2obo6b2o4b2o2bo$4b2o6bo14b
ob4o6bobo2b2ob3o2bobobo2bob2o$3bo2bobobob2o17b2ob2ob5o3bobo2bobobob4o
bobob2o$3b2obobobo2bo13b2o7bo4b2obo2bob2obob2o4bo2b2obo$6bo2bob2o8b2o
5bo12b2o4bo3bobo3bo2bobo$6b2obo3bo6bobo5bo19b2obo2bob2o3b2o$8bobob2o6b
obo4bo22bob2o$8bobobo7b2o10bo17bo$9bo2bo20bo15b2o$10b2o19b3o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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iNoMed wrote: July 27th, 2026, 3:33 am p78 glider gun reduced to 37x41 (1517-cell BB) achieved by heavily optimising the p3 catalyst in the previously posted p78 gun design into a much smaller size:
There is a lot of empty space above the p3 catalyst in this design. Might it be possible that a wider p3 could reduce guntrue_78 while still fitting into the red areas?

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x = 41, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
B19D16.2A$B19D16.A$B19D4.A12.A$B19D4.3A7.4A$B19D7.A6.A$B19D6.2A8.B3A$
B19D6.5B5.BA2.A$B19D8.9B2.2A$B17D2A2.AB3.10B$B17DA2.A.AB.12B$B17D.A.2A
16B$B11D2A6.A3.16B$B11D.A7.2A8B2A3B.3BA$BA.2A6.A10.A.7BABAB3.ABA$B2A.
A4.4A7.A4.7BAB5.2A$B7.A11.2A2.8B8.B$B3A4.A2B2A11.7B$E.A2.2A.A.B.A10.4B
.5B$E3.2A2.A.2A10.5B4.2A$.3A3.A.2AB9.4B6.A$4.B3A4.A7.BA2B8.3A$.3AB.A2B
2ABAB5.B2AB6.3A2.A$.A3.A3.3BA2.B3.2A2B5.A3.A$2.3A4.A2.5B3A4B.BA2.3A$E
.A6.2BA5B3A4B.B3A7.2A$EA5.3A.AB.2BA9B3.A6.A$6.A2.A.BA3B2A9B.A.A7.A$6.
3A.AB.3B2A8B.B3A6.2A$EA5.A.BA3.12B2.2A5.A$E2.B.B.2A5.5B2A5B2.B2A.BA2B
2A.A$.4AB2AB3.2AB.3BA6B4.A2BAB.A.2A$3.AB.A4.A.AB3.2B2A6B2.A2.A2B$.2A3.
A.A2.A4.5BAB2.B2A3.3A$E2.3A.A.A.A4.2A3.2B3.A6.B2A$EA3.A.A2.A6.A2.B2AB
3.3A3.3AB$6.2A6.3A3.A2BA5.A5.A.A$.12D.A6.2A13.2A!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: August 12th, 2026, 5:37 pm There is a lot of empty space above the p3 catalyst in this design. Might it be possible that a wider p3 could reduce guntrue_78 while still fitting into the red areas?
I'm pretty sure I tried that with LLS, and it came back impossible.

In other news, gun_19 reduced by one column with LLS (11286 -> 11187):

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x = 113, y = 99, rule = B3/S23
38b2o35b2o$38b2o9b2obo9bob2o9b2o$50bob3o5b3obo$46bobobo4bo3bo4bo2bo$
45bo2bobo3bobobobo3bobob2o$46bo2bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo$53bobo3bobo4b2o$47b2o
3b2ob2ob2obobo$51b2o7bob2o2b2o$47bo2bo3bob2obo2bob3o$48b2o2bobo3bobobo
2bobo7bo$11b2o9bo24bobob4obobobo6bo6b3o15bo9b2o$11b2o7b5o22b2obobo2bob
obo2bobo2b2o5bob2o12b5o7b2o$15b2o2bo5bo9bob2o8bo2bo4bo3bob2obo2b2o8bo
11bo5bo2b2o$11b5o2bobob3o11b3o8bo2bob2ob2o2bobo2bo2b2o8b3o10b2ob2obo2b
5o$10bo6b2obo12b2obobo8b2ob4o3bobo4bo2b2o23bobob2o6bo$10bobob3o2b2obo
24bobo4b2obob2o6bo24bo5b2ob2obo$11b2o4bobob2o8bobob2o11b3obo2bobo4bobo
3bo22b2o2bobo2bob2o$14bo2bobo2bo8b3o11bob2obob2o2bob2ob2obob2o12b3o8b
2o2bob2o$11b2obo2bobo2bo8b2obo9bo5bo7bo3bobob5o11bo8b2o2bo3b2ob2o$12bo
bo4bob2o20bo2bo2bob3o2bobo3bo2bo2bo2bo10b2obo5b2o2bobo2bobo$11bo2bobob
obobo20bob2o2bo3bo2b2o5bobo2b2obo11b3o6bo4bo2bo2bo$10bob2o2bo3b2o20b2o
bo4bobo11bo4bob2o11bo7bobo3bob3obo$11bo3bo2bobo2bo22bo2b2ob2o15bo23b3o
b2o3b2o$17bo29bo20b2o20b3obo2b2o$15bo2b2obob2o23b3ob2o37bob2obo$12bo3b
2o3b2o15b2obo2b2o4bob2o37bo5b2o2b2o$11bob3o2b4o16bob2o3bo46bo2b2o2b3ob
o$10bobo3b2o2bo21b3o10b2o40b3o2bobo$10bo2bo3bob2o3b2o13b2obo4b2o6b2o
32b2o3b2obo3bo2bo$11b2o4bobo4bo12bo2bobo6bo40bo4bobo4b2o$15b2o3b3obo
12b2o7bo43bob3o3b2o$15bo6bobob2o14bob2o41b2obobo6bo$17bo5bobo2bo15bob
2o38bo2bobo5bo$16b2o3bobobob2o15bobo39b2obo7b2o$20bob2obo9bobo5b2o2bo
18bo20bobo2bo$20bo4b2o9b2o8b2o18b3o18b3obobo$21b4o2b2o7bo32bo15b2obo2b
o2bo$26bo2bo31b2o5b2o4bo9bo2bo3b3obo$23b2o3bobo2bo26b2o12bobo8b2o6b2o$
22bo2b2obobo2bo19bo8bo11b2o$23bo3b2obo2bo18bobo$24b2o26bobo31bo4bo$26b
4ob2o20bo27b2o2bobob2obo3b2o$26bo2b2obo24b2o22bo2bobob3o2bobo2bob2o$
29bo3bo23bobo18b2obob2obobo3b2ob2obob2o$28bob3o26bo11b2o5bobobo3bo3bo
5bobo$26bo3bo12bobo13b2o10b2o7bo2b2o5b4obo2bo$26bo17b2o34b2obo2bo6bo2b
ob2o$27bo16bo6bo29bo2bobob3o3bobo2bo$20b2o27bobo15bo12bo2b2obob2ob2ob
2obo$21bo28b2o14bobob2o7bo5bobo9b2o$8b2ob2o2b2o4bobo14b2o26bobobobo2b
2obob4obo3bo2b4o3bo$4b2obobobo2bo2bo4b2o13bo2bo24b2obobobo3bobobo2bo3b
4o6b2obo$3bo2b2obo2b3ob2o10b3o7b2o14bobo9bo2b2ob4o2bobo6bobo8bobo$2bob
o3b4o4bo8b4o26b2o9bo4bo3bobo2b2o3bo2bob8o2b2o$2bo2b3o5b2o3bo6b3obo25bo
11b3o2bo2bo2b2o6b3o3b4o2bobo$b2o6bo2b3o2b4o20b2o27b2obobo4b4o4bo9bobo$
7bo2b2o4bo4bo19bo27bo2bobob4o3bo15bo$b4o4b2o2b2o3b2o2bo19b3o24b2obo3bo
3bo$bo3bo4bo2b2o2bo2b2o22bo27b2ob4obo$4bobobo3b4ob2o40bo12bo2bo2b2o10b
2o$3b2o3bob2o4bo32b2o6bobo13b2o14bobo$3b3o11bo3bo27bo8b2o4bo24bo$13b2o
4bob3o27bo13b2o22b3o2bo$19bo4bo6b2o14b5o12b2o26b2obo$20b3obo7bo13bo45b
2obo$10b2o10b2o8bobo12b3o44bo$8b2o2bo20b2o3bo11bo19bo27bo$7bo5bo23bob
2o6b4o17bobo26bob2o$2o5bo2b2o2bo22bo2bo6bo3b2o16b2o26bob2o$2o5b3ob2ob
2o22b3o7b3o2bo44bo2b3o7b2o$12bo2bo34bob2o49bo7b2o$12b2obo34bo22bobo25b
obo$13b2o34b2o23b2o25b2o$18b2o54bo15bo$17bob2o44b2o23b3o$17bo2bo20b2o
22b2o3bo8bo13bo$17b2ob2ob3o15bo27bobo8bo7b4obo14bo$18bo2b2o2bo12bo3b3o
25bobo5b3o7bo2b3obob4o7bo$19bo5bo11bobo4bo27bo20b2ob7obobo2bo$20bo2b2o
8b2o2bobo32b2o19b2o8b2obobo$11b2o8b2o9bobo3bo44bo7b2o9b2o3bo3bo$11bo
20bo51b2o4bo2b3ob4o2bo4b4o$5b2o6bo15bo3b5o45b2o6bo12b2o$6bo2b4obo3b2o
9b4o59b4o3b2ob3o5b2o$6bobo2bo2bo18bob4o55bo3b2o5b3o2bo$5b2obo2b2ob3o4b
2o8bobobo53bo6bo4b2obo3bobo$5bo4b3o2bob4o3bo5bobo3bo2bo47bobo5b2ob3o2b
ob2o2bo$7b2obo3bo3b2o2bo2bo3bobo5bobo48b2o5bo2bo2bobobob2o$8bo2bobo2bo
b2o2b2obo3bo8bo57b2o2b2ob2o$6bo3b2obobo5b2obo3b2o2bo$6b2o5bo2b2o8bo3b
3o59bobo$18bo3bo3b4o6b2o55b2o$6b2o2bob2o2b3obo9bob3o2bo55bo$6bobo2bo3b
2o2b2obo5bo2bo3b2o$8b2obo4bo4bo2bo3bo4b2o63bo$10bo5bo7bo4bo2bobo64bo$
16bo7bo4bobobo63b3o!
Wonder how much farther it'll go, and when we will get a true period one.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Reduction to guntrue_996 (2856 -> 2814) - a potential replacement for the p6 thumb might reduce it

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x = 67, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
62b2o$61bobo$41b2o18bo$41bo18b2o$42bo$41b2o17b4o$60bo2bo$28b2o32bo$28b
2o33b3o$55bo9bo$55b2o$7b2o32bo12bobo$7bobo30b2o11b3o9b2o$10bo2b2o26b2o
10b2o6b2obobo$8b2obo2bo38b2o6b2obo$7bobob2o38b3o11bo$8bo52b2ob2o$b2o59b
obo$2bo20bo38bobo$2bobo9b2o6bob2o37bo$3b2o9b2o6bob2ob2o$20b2o2b2ob2o$
21bobo13bo$21bob6o7bobo$11b2o4b2o3bo5bo7bobo$11bobo3bobo3b3o8b3ob2o$12b
o6bo5bo7bo13b3o$19b2o13b3ob2o6b2o11b2o$36bob2o6b2o11b2o$2o43b3o$o2bo40b
obo$b3o40b2o$35bo9bo$b3o3b2o26b3o$obo4b2o29bo$o3bo32bo2bo$b3obo31b4o$
3bobo$4bo34b2o$21bo17bo$22bo14bobo$20b3o14b2o!
EDIT: I feel it's a long shot, but a p2016 glider gun which is only 66 cells larger than the current one

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x = 53, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
9b2o5b2o$2bo6bo7bo6bo$bobo6b3ob3o6bobo$o3bo7bobo7bo3bo$bo3bo15bo3bo$2b
o3bo13bo3bo$3bo3bo11bo3bo$4bobo13bobo$5bo15bo2$12b3o$12bobo$6b2o4bobo
4b2o$5bobo4bobo4bobo$5bo6bobo6bo$4b2o6b3o6b2o2$43bo$12b3o28bobo$13bo28b
obo$13bo30bo3$39bo2b2o$38b7o$36bo3bo2bo2b2o$36bo3bo4bobo$36bo4b2o3bo$
37b2o4bo$13b2o24b2ob2o2bo4b2o$12bobo24b2obo3b2obo2bo$12bo32bobob3o$11b
2o32bobo$34b2o10bob2o$27bo6bo9bobobobo$28bo6b3o6b2o3bo$26b3o8bo!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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