Stable signal converters

[apg]

He never specified that it had to be a glider, did he? He only wanted a Herschel-to-X, and this fits the criterion entirely, with the Herschel.

No it doesn't: the repeat time is 93 because a spark from Conduit 1 interferes with the next loafer if the timing is any closer

[Timelord Missionary]

Ah, gotcha.

[otismo]

tried to convert to MWSS -no dice - maybe it is just too tight

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x = 52, y = 84, rule = B3/S23
39b2o$39b2o5b2o$46b2o3$15b2o27b2o$15b2o27b2o$50b2o$50b2o$9b2o$9b2o$13b
2o$13b2o4$8b2o$8b2o5$43b3o$42bo2bo$41b2ob2o$17bo24bobo$19bo22bobo$15bo
2bo23bobo$15bo23b4o$16bo22bo2b2o$13b3o24b3o$13bo27bo3$3b2o$4bo$4bobo
15b2o$5b2o15b2o5$30b2o$30bobo$31bo5$8b2o3b3o7b2o$8b2o4bo8bobo$14b3o8bo
$25b2o$7bo$6bobo$7bo$4b3o$4bo10$15b2o$15b2o2$22bob2o$2b2o18b2obo$bo2bo
$bo2bo$2obo16b2ob2o$bo18b2obo$6b2o15bo$2bob2o2bo11b2ob2o$bobo5bo11bo$
4b5o12bo$7bo12b2ob2obo$23bob2o$23bo$22b2o!

EDIT : I would be extremely interested in a P90 [or lower] Loafer gun

Cheers !

<3

[WhiteHawk]

tried to convert to MWSS -no dice - maybe it is just too tight

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EDIT : I would be extremely interested in a P90 [or lower] Loafer gun

Cheers !

<3

Different Loafer-MWSS solution

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x = 57, y = 73, rule = B3/S23
7bo3b2o$6bobo2bo$6bobo4bo$7bob5o$9bo$8bo3b2o3bo$7bo4b2o2bobo$7b2o8bo5$
6b2o$6b2o$o$3o$3bo$2b2o$44b2o3b2o$44bobobo2bo$46bob3obo$42b4obo4bo$42b
o2bobob3o3b2o$48b2o4bobo$54bo$53b2o$50bo4b2o$b2o47b4o2bo$b2o51b2o$52b
2o$53bo$52bo$4bobo17b2o27b3o$3bob2o17b2o3bo25bo$3bo24bobo$2b2o25bobo$
31bo$31b2o$39b3o7b2o$9b2o29bo8bobo$10bo29b3o8bo$7b3o41b2o$7bo5$32b2o$
31bobo$31bo$30b2o6$41b2o$41b2o2$48bob2o$28b2o18b2obo$27bo2bo$27bo2bo$
26b2obo16b2ob2o$27bo18b2obo$32b2o15bo$28bob2o2bo11b2ob2o$27bobo5bo11b
o$30b5o12bo$33bo12b2ob2obo$49bob2o$49bo$48b2o!

EDIT: This is I think the fastest possible loafer eater, correct (loafers are following at minimum RT of 73 ticks)? Is there a smaller one?

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x = 23, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2bo$3bo2bo2bo$4o2b4o$o$3b4ob2o$3bo2bob2o4$5bo$4bobo$4bo2bo$5b2o$
16b2obo$4bo5bo5b2ob3o$5bo3bobo10bo$4b2o3bo2bo3b2ob3o$4bo3b2o2bo4bobo$
17bobo$18bo$5bo$3b2obo$3b2ob2o$4bob2o$3b2ob2o$4bobo3b2o$5b2o3bobo$5b2o
bo3bo$8b4o$8b2o!

(one that could eat 2 loafers arranged like below would also be cool)

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x = 10, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
2bo$bobo$bo2bo$2b2o2$bo5bo$2bo3bobo$b2o3bo2bo$bo3b2o2bo4$7bo$6bobo$5b
o2bo$6b2o2$2bo5bo$bobo3bo$o2bo3b2o$o2b2o3bo!

[Rhombicubocta]

...

Can this be turned into a stable switch engine to glider?

Here is the first thing that worked (bad RT):

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x = 84, y = 124, rule = B3/S23
33b2o$33bobo$35bo4b2o$31b4ob2o2bo2bo$31bo2bobobobob2o$34bobobobo$35b2o
bobo$39bo2$25b2o$26bo7b2o$26bobo5b2o$27b2o2$34bo$33bobo$35bo3$37b2o$
37bo3bo19bobo$38b4o19b2obo$64bo$40b2o19b3ob2obo$39bobo2b2o14bo2bobob2o
$38bo2bobobo14b2o$38b2obobo36b2o$41bob2o37bo$38b2obo17bo21bo$36bo2bobo
16bobo$36b2o2bo4b2o11bo2bo$44bo2bo11b2o$36b2o2bo4b2o$3b2o31bo2bobo20b
2o$4bo33b2obo20bobo$2bo38bob2o19bo$2b5o14b2o15b2obobo14b2o4b2o$7bo13bo
16bo2bobobo12bo$4b3o12bobo17bobo2b2o5b2o6b3o$3bo15b2o19b2o9b2o8bo$3b4o
52b2o$b2o3bo3b2o47bo$o2b3o4b2o45bobo$2obo35b2o16b2o$3bo36bo$3b2o35bobo
$41b2o2$11b2o$12bo36b3o$9b3o39bo19b2o$9bo41b2o18bo$69bobo$18bo46b2o2b
2o$18b3o44b2o$21bo$20bobo$21bo$64b2o4b2o$64b2o4b2o$22b2o$22b2o3$72bo$
72b3o$75bo$74b2o2$65b3o$65bo$45b2o17b2o$44bo37b2o$45bo36b2o$76bo$75bob
o$34b2o39bobo$34bobo39bo$35bo43b2o$79bo$80b3o$75bo6bo$58b2o14bobo$58b
2o15bo$26b2o$26bobo$27bo6$18b2o$18bobo$19bo3$48bo$47bobo$48b2o6b2o$10b
2o44b2o$10bobo$11bo3$40bo$39bobo$40b2o$2b2o$2bobo$3bo$12bo$11bobo$32bo
$10bo2bo17bobo$10b2o20b2o$10bo5$24bo$23bobo$24b2o!

EDIT:
This one might be better, using a different reaction (reaction found in a forgotten thread):

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x = 122, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
63bo$62bobo$62bobo$61b2ob3o$67bo$61b2ob3o$61b2obo$40b2o$40bobo$41bo4$
86bo11b2o$85bobo10b2o$32b2o39bo3bo3b2o2bobo$32bobo36b3o2bobo2bo2b2ob2o
$33bo36bo5bobo3bobo$70b2o5bob4o2bob2o$79bo3bobob2o$78bo3bobo$77bo3bobo
$77b2o3bo$24b2o$24bobo$25bo$90b2o$90b2o$54bo50b2o$53bobo48bo2bo$54b2o
49b2obo$16b2o40b2o48bo$16bobo39b2o48b2o$17bo$94b2o$94bo$46bo32b2o14bo$
45bobo31bobo12b2o21b2o$46b2o33bo35bo$8b2o71b2o36bo$8bobo88b2o14b5o$9bo
90bo13bo$100bobo12b3o$101b2o15bo$38bo19b2o55b4o$37bobo19bo50b2o3bo3b2o
$38b2o18bo51b2o4b3o2bo$2o56b2o36bo21bob2o$obo57bo12b2o19b3o21bo$bo56b
3o12b2o18bo23b2o$10bo46bo35b2o$9bobo45b2o$30bo37bo40b2o$8bo2bo17bobo
35bobo39bo$8b2o20b2o35bobo6b2ob2o29b3o$8bo47b2o10bo5bo2bobo32bo$56b2o
15bob2o3bo$74bo2b3o3b2o$75b2o5bobo5b2o$54b2o22b2o2bo7b2o$22bo31bo2bob
2o14b2obo2b2o$21bobo32b2obobo13bo2bo$22b2o33bo2b2o14b2o17bo$55bobo33b
2obobo$55b2o15b2o16bobobobo$72bo14bo2bobobobob2o$73b3o11b4ob2o2bo2bo$
75bo15bo4b2o$89bobo$89b2o!

Cross posting so this is easier to find later.

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Can this be turned into a stable switch engine to glider?

Here is the first thing that worked (bad RT):

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x = 84, y = 124, rule = B3/S23
33b2o$33bobo$35bo4b2o$31b4ob2o2bo2bo$31bo2bobobobob2o$34bobobobo$35b2o
bobo$39bo2$25b2o$26bo7b2o$26bobo5b2o$27b2o2$34bo$33bobo$35bo3$37b2o$
37bo3bo19bobo$38b4o19b2obo$64bo$40b2o19b3ob2obo$39bobo2b2o14bo2bobob2o
$38bo2bobobo14b2o$38b2obobo36b2o$41bob2o37bo$38b2obo17bo21bo$36bo2bobo
16bobo$36b2o2bo4b2o11bo2bo$44bo2bo11b2o$36b2o2bo4b2o$3b2o31bo2bobo20b
2o$4bo33b2obo20bobo$2bo38bob2o19bo$2b5o14b2o15b2obobo14b2o4b2o$7bo13bo
16bo2bobobo12bo$4b3o12bobo17bobo2b2o5b2o6b3o$3bo15b2o19b2o9b2o8bo$3b4o
52b2o$b2o3bo3b2o47bo$o2b3o4b2o45bobo$2obo35b2o16b2o$3bo36bo$3b2o35bobo
$41b2o2$11b2o$12bo36b3o$9b3o39bo19b2o$9bo41b2o18bo$69bobo$18bo46b2o2b
2o$18b3o44b2o$21bo$20bobo$21bo$64b2o4b2o$64b2o4b2o$22b2o$22b2o3$72bo$
72b3o$75bo$74b2o2$65b3o$65bo$45b2o17b2o$44bo37b2o$45bo36b2o$76bo$75bob
o$34b2o39bobo$34bobo39bo$35bo43b2o$79bo$80b3o$75bo6bo$58b2o14bobo$58b
2o15bo$26b2o$26bobo$27bo6$18b2o$18bobo$19bo3$48bo$47bobo$48b2o6b2o$10b
2o44b2o$10bobo$11bo3$40bo$39bobo$40b2o$2b2o$2bobo$3bo$12bo$11bobo$32bo
$10bo2bo17bobo$10b2o20b2o$10bo5$24bo$23bobo$24b2o!

EDIT:
This one might be better, using a different reaction (reaction found in a forgotten thread):

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x = 122, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
63bo$62bobo$62bobo$61b2ob3o$67bo$61b2ob3o$61b2obo$40b2o$40bobo$41bo4$
86bo11b2o$85bobo10b2o$32b2o39bo3bo3b2o2bobo$32bobo36b3o2bobo2bo2b2ob2o
$33bo36bo5bobo3bobo$70b2o5bob4o2bob2o$79bo3bobob2o$78bo3bobo$77bo3bobo
$77b2o3bo$24b2o$24bobo$25bo$90b2o$90b2o$54bo50b2o$53bobo48bo2bo$54b2o
49b2obo$16b2o40b2o48bo$16bobo39b2o48b2o$17bo$94b2o$94bo$46bo32b2o14bo$
45bobo31bobo12b2o21b2o$46b2o33bo35bo$8b2o71b2o36bo$8bobo88b2o14b5o$9bo
90bo13bo$100bobo12b3o$101b2o15bo$38bo19b2o55b4o$37bobo19bo50b2o3bo3b2o
$38b2o18bo51b2o4b3o2bo$2o56b2o36bo21bob2o$obo57bo12b2o19b3o21bo$bo56b
3o12b2o18bo23b2o$10bo46bo35b2o$9bobo45b2o$30bo37bo40b2o$8bo2bo17bobo
35bobo39bo$8b2o20b2o35bobo6b2ob2o29b3o$8bo47b2o10bo5bo2bobo32bo$56b2o
15bob2o3bo$74bo2b3o3b2o$75b2o5bobo5b2o$54b2o22b2o2bo7b2o$22bo31bo2bob
2o14b2obo2b2o$21bobo32b2obobo13bo2bo$22b2o33bo2b2o14b2o17bo$55bobo33b
2obobo$55b2o15b2o16bobobobo$72bo14bo2bobobobob2o$73b3o11b4ob2o2bo2bo$
75bo15bo4b2o$89bobo$89b2o!

Cross posting so this is easier to find later.

Repeat time reduced from 501 to 400 using a boojum-receiver:

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x = 114, y = 93, rule = B3/S23
79bo$78bobo$78bobo$77b2ob3o$83bo$77b2ob3o$77b2obo$56b2o$56bobo$57bo6$
48b2o$48bobo40bo$49bo39b3o$88bo$88b2o4$40b2o$40bobo$41bo56bo$96b3o$95b
o$70bo24b2o$69bobob2o$70b2ob2o$32b2o$32bobo$33bo3$62bo22b2o$61bobo21b
2o$62b2o35b2o$24b2o73b2o$24bobo76b2o$25bo77b2o3$54bo$53bobo$54bo2bo22b
o22b2o$16b2o37b5o14b2o3bobo21bo$16bobo41bo13bo4bo2bo21bo$17bo39b3o12bo
bo5b2o17b2o2b2o$56bo15b2o25bobo5bo$56b4o41bob5o$46bo7b2o3bo3b2o35b2obo
7b2o$45bobo5bo2b3o4b2o41b2o2bo2bo$46b2o5b2obo49bobo2bobo$8b2o46bo52b2o
bo$8bobo45b2o52bo$9bo97bo2bo$106bobob2o$64b2o40bobobo$38bo26bo41bo2bo$
37bobo22b3o38b2o3b2o$38b2o22bo40b2o$2o$obo$bo$10bo$9bobo93b2o$30bo74bo
bo$8bo2bo17bobo75bo$8b2o20b2o75b2o$8bo5$22bo$21bobo$22b2o2$99b2o$99b2o
$76bo$76b3o$78bo$78bo15b2o$94b2o$98b2o$98b2o3$92b2o$92b2o!

Note: this has a Herschel output.

EDIT: looks like no-one noticed this...

[Jormungant]

might be time for this g-to-gx2 to shine (as far as compactness at least, but the repeat time is 550):

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x = 105, y = 67, rule = LifeHistory
67.A$66.A.A$66.A.A$65.2A.3A$66.B4.A$65.2AB3A$65.2A.A$44.2A17.4B$44.A.
A15.4B9.3B2AB$45.A16.6B7.3BABAB$74.4B.2A2B$73.4B.4B$71.10B$67.B2.11B$
67.12B$36.2A29.12B7.2A$36.A.A28.12B7.A$37.A29.13B3.BA.A$67.15B.B2A$
67.17B$67.18B$68.16B$67.17B$28.2A32.4B.18B$28.A.A32.22B$29.A34.21B$
65.21B$66.20B$58.A7.19B9.A$57.A.A2.2A2.20B7.A.A$58.2A2.A2.B.21B5.A.A$
20.2A41.3A22B4.2A.3A$20.A.A42.BA21B5.B4.A$21.A39.5A3B3.17B2.B2AB3A$
61.A4.2B5.17B.B2A.A$64.2A6.20B$50.A13.A7.20B$49.A.A13.A6.24B$50.2A12.
2A5.28B$12.2A57.10B6.12B$12.A.A47.A8.10B6.11BA3B.2A$13.A48.3A6.10B6.
10BABA2BA.A$65.A3.12B6.10BABAB.BA$64.2A2.13B6.11BAB$42.A21.17B6.B2A4B
3.B$41.A.A22.15B6.B2A$42.2A21.16B6.2B$4.2A59.25B$4.A.A58.25B$5.A59.
27B$14.A52.25B$13.A.A51.8BA15B$34.A32.5B.BABAB2.9B$12.A2.A17.A.A32.4B
.BABAB.9B$12.2A20.2A34.B3.BAB2.6B$12.A59.5B4.B.B$72.2A6.3B$73.A6.B2AB
$70.3A8.2A$70.A$26.A$25.A.A$26.2A!

[TheWayOfTheCon]

might be time for this g-to-gx2 to shine (as far as compactness at least, but the repeat time is 550):

Just make the "hallway" shorter? Is there something I'm missing here?

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x = 69, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
31.A$30.A.A$30.A.A$29.2A.3A$30.B4.A$29.2AB3A$29.2A.A$8.2A17.4B$8.A.A15.
4B9.3B2AB$9.A16.6B7.3BABAB$38.4B.2A2B$37.4B.4B$35.10B$31.B2.11B$31.12B
$2A29.12B7.2A$A.A28.12B7.A$.A36.6B3.BA.A$10.A27.8B.B2A$9.A.A26.10B$38.
11B$8.A2.A26.10B$8.2A28.10B$8.A17.4B.18B$27.22B$28.21B$29.21B$30.20B$
22.A7.19B9.A$21.A.A2.2A2.20B7.A.A$22.2A2.A2.B.21B5.A.A$27.3A22B4.2A.3A
$29.BA21B5.B4.A$25.5A3B3.17B2.B2AB3A$25.A4.2B5.17B.B2A.A$28.2A6.20B$28.
A7.20B$29.A6.24B$28.2A5.28B$35.10B6.12B$26.A8.10B6.11BA3B.2A$26.3A6.10B
6.10BABA2BA.A$29.A3.12B6.10BABAB.BA$28.2A2.13B6.11BAB$28.17B6.B2A4B3.
B$30.15B6.B2A$29.16B6.2B$29.25B$29.25B$29.27B$31.25B$31.8BA15B$31.5B.
BABAB2.9B$32.4B.BABAB.9B$34.B3.BAB2.6B$36.5B4.B.B$36.2A6.3B$37.A6.B2A
B$34.3A8.2A$34.A!

[dvgrn]

Just make the "hallway" shorter? Is there something I'm missing here?

The length of the incoming "swimmer lane" is arbitrary; shortening it doesn't change the repeat time.

It's kind of funny that we're still stuck with that one obvious but dirty boojum-receiver conversion, having to clean up the leftover block. That was the state of the art way back in 2017 with a repeat time of 475.

I was sure that by this time somebody would have come up with a clean conversion mechanism -- switch engines just seem to have so much reaction surface to work with.