Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: December 19th, 2025, 2:03 pm EDIT 3: Is this the smallest weld possible between these two eaters?
Idk, but more reduction to guntrue_1062. (No BB reduction, but population 333 -> 329)

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x = 74, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
5bo2bo3b2o$5b6o2bo$3b2o6b2o$2bo2bob2obo2b3o$bob2o2b2o2b2o2bo20bo$bobo
2b4o2bobo20bobo$2ob3o4b3ob2o17b3obo$bobo8bobo17bo4bob2o$bobo3b2o3bobo
17bobobobobo$2bo10bo13b2o4b2obobo$28bo8bobo9b2o$7b2o19bobo7bo9bo2bo$6b
o2bo6b2o11b2o20bo$7b2o7bo31bo2bo$14bobo24bo5b2ob2o$14b2o24bo5bo3bo$3b
2o36bo3bo3bo5b2o10bo$2bo2bo36b3o8bo2bo8b3o$3b2o12bo25bo9b2o9bo$17b3o8b
o9bo3bo3bo17b2o$20bo5b2o9b2o2b2ob2o$19b2o6b2o5b10o$33bob4o3bo8bo$33b2o
3bo3bo7bobo$39b2o8bo2bo$6bo43b2o$5bobo52bobo$5bobo51bobobo$6bo22b2o5b
2o25b2o$10b2o10b2o5bobo5bo9b2o8bo5bo2bo$10bobo9b2o7bo2b3o8bo2bo7bob2o
6bo$12bo18bobo11b2o9bo9b2o$12b2o16b2ob2o21bo5b2o8b2o$61bo2bo7b2o$64bo
2$19b2ob2o27b2o9bobo$15b2o3bob2o2b2o23b2o9b2o2bo$15bo2bobo6bo35bo3bo$
17b2ob7o34bobob2obo$10bo8bo40bobobo4bo$11bo7bob4o35bobobob3o$9b3o8b2o
2bo36bo3b2o!
Edit:
Another (Pop: 329 -> 328)

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x = 74, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
5bo2bo3b2o$5b6o2bo$3b2o6b2o$2bo2bob2obo2b3o$bob2o2b2o2b2o2bo20bo$bobo
2b4o2bobo20bobo$2ob3o4b3ob2o17b3obo$bobo8bobo17bo4bob2o$bobo3b2o3bobo
17bobobobobo$2bo10bo13b2o4b2obobo$28bo8bobo9b2o$7b2o19bobo7bo9bo2bo$6b
o2bo6b2o11b2o20bo$7b2o7bo31bo2bo$14bobo24bo5b2ob2o$14b2o24bo5bo3bo$3b
2o36bo3bo3bo5b2o10bo$2bo2bo36b3o8bo2bo8b3o$3b2o12bo25bo9b2o9bo$17b3o8b
o9bo3bo3bo17b2o$20bo5b2o9b2o2b2ob2o$19b2o6b2o5b10o$33bob4o3bo8bo$33b2o
3bo3bo7bobo$39b2o8bo2bo$6bo43b2o$5bobo52bobo$5bobo51bobobo$6bo22b2o5b
2o25b2o$10b2o10b2o5bobo5bo9b2o8bo5bo2bo$10bobo9b2o7bo2b3o8bo2bo7bob2o
6bo$12bo18bobo11b2o9bo9b2o$12b2o18bobo21bo5b2o8b2o$33bo27bo2bo7b2o$64b
o2$19b2ob2o27b2o9bobo$15b2o3bob2o2b2o23b2o9b2o2bo$15bo2bobo6bo35bo3bo
$17b2ob7o34bobob2obo$10bo8bo40bobobo4bo$11bo7bob4o35bobobob3o$9b3o8b2o
2bo36bo3b2o!
EDIT by dvgrn: removed the pesky leading spaces in the patterns, mentioned by johamwit below.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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LWSSONHWSSONLWSS wrote: December 20th, 2025, 12:28 am ...
You should check for those pesky white spaces before the pattern code. That is, a single white space before the "x =". It is selected besides the pattern code when the SELECT ALL command is used, then the PASTE command in Golly fails miserably.

Note the difference:

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A$2.A.A$2.A$A.A$2A!

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 x = 0, y = 0, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A$2.A.A$2.A$A.A$2A!
Although both are rendered correctly by the LifeViewer used in this forum, the 2nd instance loads as text in Golly.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: December 19th, 2025, 2:03 pm
Period1GliderGun wrote: December 19th, 2025, 3:02 am guntrue_235 reduction (4420 -> 4161) EDIT: Reduced again to 4047 cells with some stator reduction:
guntrue_705 also reduced (5208 -> 5041)
Too bad I didn't mention this stator population reduction to the edgy p5 b-to-g earlier:

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x = 19, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$o3bo$3obo$3b2ob2o$2o3bo2bo$ob2obob2o$2bo2bobo$2bo4bo$b2obob2ob2o$
2bo4bo3bo$2bob2obob2obo$b2o2bob2o3bo$4bo5b2o$5b5o2b3o$10bo3bo$7b3o4bob
2o$7bo7bo2bo$16b2o!
WhiteHawk wrote: December 19th, 2025, 2:03 pm EDIT 3: Is this the smallest weld possible between these two eaters?

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x = 9, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
2A5.2D$A.A5.D$2.A2.3D$2.2A.D5$2E5.2C$E.E5.C$2.E2.3C$2.EDAD$3.A.A$4.A3$
2A5.2A$A.A5.A$2.A2.3A$2.A.A$3.A.A$4.A!
Yes.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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gun_345 small reduction (3380 -> 3355)

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x = 61, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
33b2o$32bobo$26b2o4bo$24bo2bo2b2ob4o$24b2obobobobo2bo$27bobobobo$27bo
bob2o$28bo2$41b2o$32b2o7bo$32b2o5bobo$39b2o3$54b2o$9bo44bobo$9b3o44bo
$12bo42b2ob2o$11b2o16b2o25bob2o$30bo22b2obo$27b3o26b4o$3b2o22bo21b2o3b
o5bo$3bo45b2o5b4o$2obo51b2o$o2b3o4b2o43b2o$b2o3bo3b2o45b3o$3b4o$3bo15b
2o2b2o10b2o23bo$4b3o12bobo2bo11bo21bobo$7bo13b2o13bobo19b2o$2b5o14bo15b
2o$2bo20bo$4bo17b2o$3b2o$8b2o$9bo$9bob2o$10bo2bo$11b2o3$26b3o$23b2o2b
o21b2o$23bobo23b2o2b2o$8b2o25bo3b2o12bobo$6bo4bo22bobo3bo14bo$5bo6bo20b
obo3bo15b2o$4bo8bo15b2obobo3bo$4bo8bo15b2obo2b4obo$4bo8bo19bobo3bobo$
5bo6bo16b2ob2o2bo2bobo$6bo4bo12bo5bobo2b2o3bo$8b2o15bo4bobo$23b3o5bo!
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: December 5th, 2025, 12:39 am Is there a better p10 that could fit to reduce guntrue_1550 more? (4224 -> 3968)

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x = 62, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
41bo3b2ob2o$40bobobobobo$39bo2bobo3bo$40b3obo3bob2o$40bo2b2obobobobo$35b2o7bobobo3bo$35bobo7b2o2bo2b2o$36b2o5bo3b3o3bo$37bo5b4o6bob2o$31b2o8b2o4bo4b2obo$31bo4b2o4bob3o6bo3bo2bo$33bobo2bobo3bo7b2obob4o$29b5o6b4o8bo$29bo5b4o13bo3b3o$32b10o9b2o2bo2bo$31bo10bo2b2ob2obo4b2o$31b2o8b2o2bo4bo$27b2o20bo$28bo17bo2bo$28bobo$29b2o$61bo$59b3o$58bo$58b2o2$19b2ob2o$17bo2bobo2b2o19bo$17b2obo2bobo20bo5b2o$20b2obo2bo19bo5bobo$17b2o4bo3bo24bob2o$16bo2b4ob3o19b3ob5o$16b2obo2bobo21b3obo2bo$17bobo5b4o17b2o2b3o$16bo2b2o2b2o4bo14bo2b2o$17b2o3bobob3o15b2ob2o9b2o$19bob2obobo18b2o11b2o$15b4o5b2o12b2o$14bo4b4obo13bobo$14bob2obo2bo17bo12b2o$2ob2o10bobo3b2o11bo5b2o12bo$2obobo11bo3b2o11b3o14b3o$7bo4bo4b2o18bo12bo3b3o$5o7b3o21b2o11bob2o3bo$o3bob2o7bo33bobobobo$2bo3bo7b2o25bo6b2o3b2o$b5o26bo7bobo5bo2b3o$o4bo24b3o7bo2bo5bobo$obob5o20bo11b2o6bo$b2o26b2o17bo2bo$4bo7bo35b2ob3o$b4o3bo2bobo35bo4bo$bo2bo3bo2bobo12b2o21bob3o$2b3o7bo12bo2bo21b2o$obo4bo18b2o$2o2b2o$5bobo$3bo2bobo$3b2obobo5b2o$5bobo7bo$5bo6b3o38bo$4b2o6bo41bo$52b3o!
Same for guntrue_2680

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x = 61, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
28b2o$28bobo$30bo4b2o$26b4ob2o2bo2bo$26bo2bobobobob2o$29bobobobo$30b2obobo$34bo2$20b2o$21bo7b2o$21bobo5b2o$22b2o2$51bo$15bo33b3o$13b3o32bo$12bo13b3o19b2o$12b2o14bo$b2o24bo4b2o$2bo29bo23b2o$2bobo28b3o21bo$3b2o30bo21bob2o$49b2o4b3o2bo$49b2o3bo3b2o$54b4o$24b2o14b2o15bo$24bo10b2o2bobo12b3o$3b2o17bobo11bo2bo13bo$2bobo17b2o10bo2b3o14b5o$2bo31b3o21bo$b2o34bo18bo$36b2o18b2o$51b2o$51bo$48b2obo$47bo2bo$48b2o$33b2o$33b2o$51b2o$10b2o38bobo$6b2o2b2o37bo$5bobo12b2o3bo22bob2o3bo$5bo14bo3bobo21bobo5bo$4b2o15bo3bobo19b2ob3o3bo$17b2o3bo3bobob2o14bo2bob2o2bo$17bo2bob4o2bob2o15b3o$19b2o4bobo18bo2bob2o2bo$22b2obob2ob2o15b2ob3o3bo$23bobo2bobo17bobo5bo$17bo5bob2obo2bo16bob2o3bo$16bobo3b2o4b3o18bo$16bobo5b4o22bobo$14b2o2b2o2b2o4bo22b2o$13bo2b2o3bobob3o$13bobo2bob2o2b2o$12b2ob3o4bo$13bo4b4o$13bob2obo$14bobo3b2o$16bo2b3o$16b2o2$12b2o$12b2o2$26b2o$3b2o21b2o$3bobo$4bo$26b3o$27b2o$24b2o$7b2o15b3o$7b2o16bobo$2b2o22b2o$bobo$bo$2o13b2o$15bo10bo$8b2o6b3o8bo$8b2o8bo6b3o!
-22 cells for the spark-inhibitor weld

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x = 62, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
41bo3b2ob2o$40bobobobobo$39bo2bobo3bo$40b3obo3bob2o$40bo2b2obobobobo$35b2o7bobobo3bo$35bobo7b2o2bo2b2o$36b2o5bo3b3o3bo$37bo5b4o6bob2o$31b2o8b2o4bo4b2obo$31bo4b2o4bob3o6bo3bo2bo$33bobo2bobo3bo7b2obob4o$29b5o6b4o8bo$29bo5b4o13bo3b3o$32b10o9b2o2bo2bo$31bo10bo2b2ob2obo4b2o$31b2o8b2o2bo4bo$27b2o20bo$28bo17bo2bo$28bobo$29b2o$61bo$59b3o$58bo$58b2o3$25b2o19bo$25bo20bo5b2o$26bo19bo5bobo$27bo24bob2o$22bob3o19b3ob5o$20b4o22b3obo2bo$19bo5b4o17b2o2b3o$19b2o2b2o4bo14bo2b2o$15bob2o3bobob3o15b2ob2o9b2o$15b2o2bob2obobo18b2o11b2o$18bo5b2o12b2o$15b3ob4obo13bobo$14bo2bobo2bo17bo12b2o$2ob2o9b2obo3b2o11bo5b2o12bo$2obobo11bo3b2o11b3o14b3o$7bo4bo4b2o18bo12bo3b3o$5o7b3o21b2o11bob2o3bo$o3bob2o7bo33bobobobo$2bo3bo7b2o25bo6b2o3b2o$b5o26bo7bobo5bo2b3o$o4bo24b3o7bo2bo5bobo$obob5o20bo11b2o6bo$b2o26b2o17bo2bo$4bo7bo35b2ob3o$b4o3bo2bobo35bo4bo$bo2bo3bo2bobo12b2o21bob3o$2b3o7bo12bo2bo21b2o$obo4bo18b2o$2o2b2o$5bobo$3bo2bobo$3b2obobo5b2o$5bobo7bo$5bo6b3o38bo$4b2o6bo41bo$52b3o!
and -11 cells for the syringe weld

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x = 61, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
28b2o$28bobo$30bo4b2o$26b4ob2o2bo2bo$26bo2bobobobob2o$29bobobobo$30b2obobo$34bo2$20b2o$21bo7b2o$21bobo5b2o$22b2o2$51bo$15bo33b3o$13b3o32bo$12bo13b3o19b2o$12b2o14bo$b2o24bo4b2o$2bo29bo23b2o$2bobo28b3o21bo$3b2o30bo21bob2o$49b2o4b3o2bo$49b2o3bo3b2o$54b4o$24b2o14b2o15bo$24bo10b2o2bobo12b3o$3b2o17bobo11bo2bo13bo$2bobo17b2o10bo2b3o14b5o$2bo31b3o21bo$b2o34bo18bo$36b2o18b2o$51b2o$51bo$48b2obo$47bo2bo$48b2o$33b2o$33b2o$51b2o$10b2o38bobo$6b2o2b2o37bo$5bobo12b2o3bo22bob2o3bo$5bo14bo3bobo21bobo5bo$4b2o15bo3bobo19b2ob3o3bo$22bo3bobob2o14bo2bob2o2bo$20bob4o2bob2o15b3o$19bobo3bobo18bo2bob2o2bo$20bo2bobob2ob2o15b2ob3o3bo$21b3obo2bobo17bobo5bo$25bobo2bo17bob2o3bo$19b5o2bob2o19bo$18bo5b2o2bo21bobo$15bo2b2o2b2o4bo22b2o$15b3o3bobob3o$18bob2o2b2o$17bo4bo$16bob4o$13bo2bobo$12bobobo3b2o$13bo2bo2b3o$16b2o2$12b2o$12b2o2$26b2o$3b2o21b2o$3bobo$4bo$26b3o$27b2o$24b2o$7b2o15b3o$7b2o16bobo$2b2o22b2o$bobo$bo$2o13b2o$15bo10bo$8b2o6b3o8bo$8b2o8bo6b3o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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DroneBetter wrote: December 27th, 2025, 9:01 pm
WhiteHawk wrote: December 5th, 2025, 12:39 am
Same for guntrue_2680

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x = 61, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
28b2o$28bobo$30bo4b2o$26b4ob2o2bo2bo$26bo2bobobobob2o$29bobobobo$30b2obobo$34bo2$20b2o$21bo7b2o$21bobo5b2o$22b2o2$51bo$15bo33b3o$13b3o32bo$12bo13b3o19b2o$12b2o14bo$b2o24bo4b2o$2bo29bo23b2o$2bobo28b3o21bo$3b2o30bo21bob2o$49b2o4b3o2bo$49b2o3bo3b2o$54b4o$24b2o14b2o15bo$24bo10b2o2bobo12b3o$3b2o17bobo11bo2bo13bo$2bobo17b2o10bo2b3o14b5o$2bo31b3o21bo$b2o34bo18bo$36b2o18b2o$51b2o$51bo$48b2obo$47bo2bo$48b2o$33b2o$33b2o$51b2o$10b2o38bobo$6b2o2b2o37bo$5bobo12b2o3bo22bob2o3bo$5bo14bo3bobo21bobo5bo$4b2o15bo3bobo19b2ob3o3bo$17b2o3bo3bobob2o14bo2bob2o2bo$17bo2bob4o2bob2o15b3o$19b2o4bobo18bo2bob2o2bo$22b2obob2ob2o15b2ob3o3bo$23bobo2bobo17bobo5bo$17bo5bob2obo2bo16bob2o3bo$16bobo3b2o4b3o18bo$16bobo5b4o22bobo$14b2o2b2o2b2o4bo22b2o$13bo2b2o3bobob3o$13bobo2bob2o2b2o$12b2ob3o4bo$13bo4b4o$13bob2obo$14bobo3b2o$16bo2b3o$16b2o2$12b2o$12b2o2$26b2o$3b2o21b2o$3bobo$4bo$26b3o$27b2o$24b2o$7b2o15b3o$7b2o16bobo$2b2o22b2o$bobo$bo$2o13b2o$15bo10bo$8b2o6b3o8bo$8b2o8bo6b3o!
and -11 cells for the syringe weld

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x = 61, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
28b2o$28bobo$30bo4b2o$26b4ob2o2bo2bo$26bo2bobobobob2o$29bobobobo$30b2obobo$34bo2$20b2o$21bo7b2o$21bobo5b2o$22b2o2$51bo$15bo33b3o$13b3o32bo$12bo13b3o19b2o$12b2o14bo$b2o24bo4b2o$2bo29bo23b2o$2bobo28b3o21bo$3b2o30bo21bob2o$49b2o4b3o2bo$49b2o3bo3b2o$54b4o$24b2o14b2o15bo$24bo10b2o2bobo12b3o$3b2o17bobo11bo2bo13bo$2bobo17b2o10bo2b3o14b5o$2bo31b3o21bo$b2o34bo18bo$36b2o18b2o$51b2o$51bo$48b2obo$47bo2bo$48b2o$33b2o$33b2o$51b2o$10b2o38bobo$6b2o2b2o37bo$5bobo12b2o3bo22bob2o3bo$5bo14bo3bobo21bobo5bo$4b2o15bo3bobo19b2ob3o3bo$22bo3bobob2o14bo2bob2o2bo$20bob4o2bob2o15b3o$19bobo3bobo18bo2bob2o2bo$20bo2bobob2ob2o15b2ob3o3bo$21b3obo2bobo17bobo5bo$25bobo2bo17bob2o3bo$19b5o2bob2o19bo$18bo5b2o2bo21bobo$15bo2b2o2b2o4bo22b2o$15b3o3bobob3o$18bob2o2b2o$17bo4bo$16bob4o$13bo2bobo$12bobobo3b2o$13bo2bo2b3o$16b2o2$12b2o$12b2o2$26b2o$3b2o21b2o$3bobo$4bo$26b3o$27b2o$24b2o$7b2o15b3o$7b2o16bobo$2b2o22b2o$bobo$bo$2o13b2o$15bo10bo$8b2o6b3o8bo$8b2o8bo6b3o!
Reduction from 5229 to 4620:

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x = 60, y = 77, rule = B3/S23
27b2o$27bobo$29bo4b2o$25b4ob2o2bo2bo$25bo2bobobobob2o$28bobobobo$29b2o
bobo$33bo2$19b2o$20bo7b2o$20bobo5b2o$21b2o2$50bo$14bo33b3o$12b3o32bo$
11bo35b2o$11b2o$2o21b3o5b2o$bo23bo5bo23b2o$bobo20bo7b3o21bo$2b2o30bo
21bob2o$48b2o4b3o2bo$48b2o3bo3b2o$53b4o$23b2o10b2o2b2o15bo$23bo11bo2bo
bo12b3o$2b2o17bobo13b2o13bo$bobo17b2o15bo14b5o$bo34bo20bo$2o34b2o17bo$
55b2o$50b2o$50bo$47b2obo$46bo2bo$47b2o$32b2o$32b2o$50b2o$9b2o38bobo$5b
2o2b2o37bo$4bobo12b2o3bo22bob2o$4bo14bo3bobo21bo3bo2b2o$3b2o15bo3bobo
19b2o2b3ob2o$21bo3bobob2o14bo$19bob4o2bob2o13b3o$18bobo3bobo18bo$18bob
o2bo2b2ob2o15b2o2b3ob2o$bo17bo3b2o2bobo12bo4bo3bo2b2o$2o25bobo11bobo3b
ob2o$obo25bo12bobo4bo$40b2obobo3bobo$40bo2b2obo3b2o$18bo22b2o3bo$18b3o
18bo2bo3b2o$21bo13b2obob2o$20b2o13b2obobo$35bo2bo3bob2o$25b2o10b2obob
2obo$25b2o4b2obo4bobo$20bo11bob4obobob2o$19bobo8bo6bobo2bobo$7b2o11b2o
8b2o4bo2bo$7b2o23bo4b2o$30b2obo$8bo20bobo2bo$7bobo20bo2b2o$6bo2bo2b2o$
5bo2bo3bo2bo$13b3o9b2o$5bo2bo9bo6bo$7b2o6b4o7b3o$15bo12bo$16bo$15b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by ElijahKen »

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: December 30th, 2025, 8:41 am Reduction from 5229 to 4620:

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x = 60, y = 77, rule = B3/S23
27b2o$27bobo$29bo4b2o$25b4ob2o2bo2bo$25bo2bobobobob2o$28bobobobo$29b2o
bobo$33bo2$19b2o$20bo7b2o$20bobo5b2o$21b2o2$50bo$14bo33b3o$12b3o32bo$
11bo35b2o$11b2o$2o21b3o5b2o$bo23bo5bo23b2o$bobo20bo7b3o21bo$2b2o30bo
21bob2o$48b2o4b3o2bo$48b2o3bo3b2o$53b4o$23b2o10b2o2b2o15bo$23bo11bo2bo
bo12b3o$2b2o17bobo13b2o13bo$bobo17b2o15bo14b5o$bo34bo20bo$2o34b2o17bo$
55b2o$50b2o$50bo$47b2obo$46bo2bo$47b2o$32b2o$32b2o$50b2o$9b2o38bobo$5b
2o2b2o37bo$4bobo12b2o3bo22bob2o$4bo14bo3bobo21bo3bo2b2o$3b2o15bo3bobo
19b2o2b3ob2o$21bo3bobob2o14bo$19bob4o2bob2o13b3o$18bobo3bobo18bo$18bob
o2bo2b2ob2o15b2o2b3ob2o$bo17bo3b2o2bobo12bo4bo3bo2b2o$2o25bobo11bobo3b
ob2o$obo25bo12bobo4bo$40b2obobo3bobo$40bo2b2obo3b2o$18bo22b2o3bo$18b3o
18bo2bo3b2o$21bo13b2obob2o$20b2o13b2obobo$35bo2bo3bob2o$25b2o10b2obob
2obo$25b2o4b2obo4bobo$20bo11bob4obobob2o$19bobo8bo6bobo2bobo$7b2o11b2o
8b2o4bo2bo$7b2o23bo4b2o$30b2obo$8bo20bobo2bo$7bobo20bo2b2o$6bo2bo2b2o$
5bo2bo3bo2bo$13b3o9b2o$5bo2bo9bo6bo$7b2o6b4o7b3o$15bo12bo$16bo$15b2o!
I believe the current guntrue_2680 is already smaller than that:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH guntrue_2680 costs 4560 cells.
#C period 2680 fullperiod 2680 bbox 76 by 60
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 76, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
52.2A$51.A.A$45.2A4.A$43.A2.A2.2A.4A$25.2A3.2A11.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$24.
B2AB.B2AB13.A.ABABAB$24.4B.4B13.A.AB2AB$25.BA3.AB15.AB.2B$21.2A2.
2AB.B2A2.2A6.A7.3B$21.A2.A.AB.BA.A2.A4.3A7.4B6.2A$22.A.A2B3.2BA.A
4.A8.3B2AB6.A$23.A3.3B3.A4.A.A7.3B2AB3.BA.A$19.A4.3A3B3A4.BA.A5.
10B.B2A$19.3A4.A.A.A5.3BA5.13B$15.2A5.A4.3A4.4B6.14B$16.A4.A5.BAB
2.6B5.15B$15.A5.4A3.B2.7B4.4B2.8B$15.2A2.2A4.A2.2B.8B2.4B5.6B$11.A
.2A3.A.A.3A3.16B4.9B$11.2A2.A.2A.B2A4.16B5.2A4.4B$14.A3.BA2B4.17B
6.A5.4B$11.3A.4A3B3.18B3.3A7.4B$10.A2.A.A.26B3.A10.4B10.2A$10.2A.A
.2B2AB.6B2.12B.B2A.A11.4B9.A$13.A.B3A3.4B3.11B2.BA.A.2A10.4B10.A$
7.2A4.2A2.B3.4B5.10B5.A2.A4.2A5.4B5.5A$7.A.A10.4B6.6B2A2B5.2A7.A5.
4B4.A$10.A2.2A4.4B7.6B2A3B13.A.AB.7B2.B3A$8.2A.A2.A3.4B8.10B15.2AB
.7B3.2B.A$7.A.A.2A4.4B5.A.2AB.8B17.12B4A$7.BAB.B4.4B4.3AB2AB3.7B
16.7B2A3BAB2.2A$.2A5.5B2.4B4.A4.B6.6B16.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$2.A6.9B6.3A.
2A4.6B17.3A7B3.B.A.2A$2.A.AB2.6B2AB9.2A2.A4.5B16.3BA4B8.A$3.2AB.7B
2A13.A.A.8B14.3BA5B7.2A$5.12B8.A.2A.A.A8B8.A4.4B2.3B$5.12B8.2A.A.B
A2B.6B6.3A3.4B3.5B$5.12B11.A2.2B2.7B4.A5.4B7.2A$6.5B2A2B.B2A9.2A.B
3.7B4.2A3.4B8.A$6.5BABA2.BA.A6.2A2.A.A2.8B.4B2.4B10.3A$6.6BAB5.A5.
A2.A2.2A2.11B3.4B13.A$6.7B6.2A5.2A7.12B.4B$4.8B23.16B$2A.9B24.15B$
A2.A9B12.2A12.12B$.3A3B.B.4B10.B2A2B9.15B6.2A$4.B2.3B.4B10.4B8.16B
6.A$.3A2.B2AB2.4B9.4B7.18B2.BA.A$A.A4.2A4.4B7.B3A6.B.19B.B2A$A3.A
9.4B6.2B2A5.2A22B$.3A.A9.4B4.2A2B6.2A22B$3.A.A10.4B3.3AB7.23B$4.A
12.5B.BABAB4.5B2.17B$18.5B2.2A5.2A6.15B$19.4B10.A9.4B2.4B$20.4B6.
3A13.B3.5B$21.4B5.A15.2A5.2A$22.3BA21.A5.A$23.3BA17.3A7.3A$24.3AB
16.A11.A!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

New year, 1st reduction
guntrue_1164 (6278 -> 5940)

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x = 90, y = 66, rule = B3/S23
43b2o$42bobo$36b2o4bo$34bo2bo2b2ob4o$34b2obobobobo2bo$37bobobobo$37bo
bob2o$38bo19b2o$33bo24bobo$31b3o17b2o7bo4b2o$30bo11b2o7bo4b4ob2o2bo2b
o$29bobo10b2o5bobo4bo2bobobobob2o$29bobo17b2o8bobobobo$30bo29b2obobo$
64bo2$50b2o$51bo7b2o$14b2o35bobo5b2o20bo$14b2o23b2o11b2o27bo$40bo40bo
$37b3o42bobo$37bo43bob2o2b2o$34b2obo44b6obo$34bobob2o49bo$16b2o18bo2b
o45b4o$17bo9b2o7b2o24b2o21bo$16bo10b2o24b3o6bo22bob2o$16b2o37bo7b3o19b
o$19b2o33bo10bo22bo$16b2ob2o68bo$17bo69bobo$15bo3b2o66b2o$15b4o2bo$18b
obobo$15b2obo2bo18bo42b2o$16bobo19b3o41bo2bo$15bo2b2o17bo44bobo$15bob
o2bobo14b2o44bo$16bobo2b2o$17bo2$83b3o$16bo64b4obo$16b3o41b2ob2o15bo2b
o2bo$19bo41bob2o15b3o4b2o$18b2o41bo3bo5b2o12bobo$12b2o34bo9b2obobobo4b
o2bo6b6obo$12b2o32b3o10bobo4bo4bobo6bo5bo$45bo13bob2o3bo5bo10b3o$46bo
13bo3b2o17bo$3b2o40b2o14b3o12b2o$3bobo38bo2b2o14bo12bo$4bo39b3o2bo27b
3o$24bo23bo30bo$23bobo5b2o3b2o6b4o$24bo6b2o3b2o7bo$7b2o34bo$7b2o34b2o
$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o13b2o$15bo10bo$8b2o6b3o8bo$8b2o8bo6b3o!
guntrue_1173 (5475 -> 5250) (EDIT: This reduces guntrue_1149 as well (5328 -> 5106))

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x = 70, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20bobo$22bo4b2o$18b4ob2o2bo2bo$18bo2bobobobob2o$21bobobobo$22b2o
bobo$26bo2$12b2o$13bo7b2o$13bobo5b2o$14b2o7$24b2o$24bo$4bo20b3o$4b3o20b
o20b2o$7bo40bobo2b2o$6b2o15b2o25bo3bo$22bobo21b4ob3o$2b2o14b2o2bo7b2o
14bo2bobo$bo2bo6bo6bobob2o5bobo2b2o13bobob3o$bob2o5b2o7b2obo2bo2bo2bo
bobo14b2obo2bo$2o8bobo11b2o2b2obobo21b2o$o2b2o26bob2o$b2o2bo4bo5bo11b
2obo17bo10bo2b2o$3b2obo2b2o5b2o4b2o2bo2bobo16bobo9b4obo$b2o2bo3b2o4bo
b2o3b2o2b2o2bo4b2o11bo2bo13bo$o2bo13bo16bo2bo11b2o7b7ob2o$b2o13bo9b2o
2bo4b2o20bo6bobo2bo$26bo2bobo20b2o3b2o2b2obo3b2o$12b3o6b2o5b2obo20bob
o6b2ob2o$11bo2bo7bo8bob2o19bo$5b2o3bo2b2o4b3o6b2obobo14b2o4b2o$5b2o4b
2o6bo8bo2bobobo12bo3bobo2bo3b2o$20b2o7bobo2b2o5b2o6b4o3b2o3b2ob2o$21b
o8b2o9b2o10bo6b2obo$20bo28b2o2bo$20b2o27bobobobo$47bobobo2b2o$47b2o2b
o$51b2o16bo$67bobo$68b2o2$29b2o$30bo33b2o$30bobo31bo$31b2o32b3o$67bo8$
54b2o$55bo$28b2o25bob2o$28b2o22b2obo2bo$53bob2o$53bo$51bobo$38b2obo2b
o4b3ob2o$35bobobob4o3bo$34bob2obo8b2o$34bo5b3o$33b2o7bo!
EDIT (1/2): Multiple 28n guns reduced

guntrue_1232 (3440 -> 3224)

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x = 62, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
45b2o$44bo2bo12b2o$45b2o13bo$32b2o24bobo$28b2o3bo24b2o$28bo2bo21bo$26b
2o2b3o19bobo$25bo2b2o23bo$25bobo2b3o25b2o$26bob2o2bo25bobo$24bobo3b2o
28bo$24b2ob2o31b2o$27bo$24b2o2bo$24bob2o24b2o$47b2o4bo$47b2o3bo$22bo28b
o$18b2o2b2ob3o19b5obo$18b2o4b4o10bo8bo4bobo$5bo16b2o13bobo9bo2bobo$3b
3o4b2o25bobo8b2o3bo$2bo3b2o2bo27bo$2bobo3bobo9b2o20b2o$6b3o2b2o7bo21b
obo$4bo4bobo2bo3bobo23bo$4bo2b3obo2bo3b2o24b2o$5bo4bo2bo2bo$10b7o$12b
3obo4b3o$23bo$22bo$11bo$6b2o3b3o12b3o3b2o$2o3b2o4b3ob3o5bo2b3o3b2o$2o
20bobo2b2o$5b3ob3o4b2o5bo$9b3o3b2o$11bo7b2o8bo$19bobo4b2o2b2o$21bo4b2o
bo$6bob3o10b2o2bo3bo$6b7o15bobo$6bo2bo2bo4bo6bo2b2o3bo$3b2o3bo2bob3o2b
o5bobo6bo$2bobo3bo2bobo4bo5bobo3bobo$2bo7b2o2b3o$b2o9bobo3bobo$12bo2b
2o3bo35bo$11b2o4b3o37bo$17bo37b3o!
guntrue_2464 (3640 -> 3410)

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x = 54, y = 62, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$6bo11b2o$6b3o21b2o$9bo22bo$8b2o17b2obobo$26bo5b2o$10b3o16bobo$11b
o15bobobo$8b2ob2o14bob2o$10b3o6bo7b2o$7bo3b2o4b2obo4b2o3b3o$4bo2b3obo
4bo3bo4bob3o2bo$4b3o3b2o4bob2o4b2o3bo$8b2o7bo6b3o$6b2obo14b2ob2o$5bob
obo15bo$5bobo16b3o$3b2o5bo$4bobob2o11bo5b2o5b2o$4bo9b2o3bobo5bo6b2o$5b
2o8bo4b2o6b3o3b2o$12b3o15bo4bo$12bo5bo15bobo$17bobo13b2obo$18bo20b2ob
2o$8b2o18bo11bobo2b2o$9bob2o7b3o3bobo5b2o3bo3b2o2bo$9bo2bob2o3b5o3b2o
5b2o3bob2o2bobo$9b2obo3bo2bo2b2o16bobobobob2o$8bo4bobo28bobo2bo$15bo27b
obobo$7bo2bo32bobob2o$8bobo8b2o14bo8b2obo2bo$9bo9b2o12bobo13b2o$34b2o
2$12b2o$12b2o18b2o$31bo2bo$32b2o$3b2o$3bobo$4bo24b2o$30bo$27b3o22bo$27b
o23bobo$7b2o42bobo$7b2o25b2ob2o13bo$2b2o28bo2bob2o$bobo28b2obo$bo33bo
$2o13b2o18b2o$15bo17b2o2bobo7bo$8b2o6b3o13bo2bo2b2o6bobo$8b2o8bo14b2o
12bo4$44b2o3b2o$33bo11bo3bo$34bo7b3o5b3o$32b3o7bo9bo!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

guntrue_545 reduced with realization that curled beehive with tail (or whatever it's called) does fit (5022 -> 4968)

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x = 91, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
50b2o$50b2o12b2obob2o$57bob2obo2bob2o2bo3bo$57b2obob2obo4bobo2b3o$65b
5obo6bo$61b2obo4bo7b2o$61b2obobo3bo$65bobo3bo$7b2o3b2o52bo3b2o$7bobob
obo$9bobo$4b2o2bob2o74b2o$3bobo2bo2bo74b2o$2bo2bob2o49b2o$3b3o52b2o$6b
ob2o33b2o7b3o14b2o$5bo2bob2o30bo2bo8bo14b3o17b2o$5b2o2b2o30bob2o8bo15b
o4b2o13b2o$10bo30bo29b2o2bo$40b2o31b2o$18b2o35b2o16bo$9b2o8bo35bo$2o6b
o2bo6bo3b2o32b3o$bo7b2o7b2o3bo34bo10b2o$bobo12bobo2bo10bo35bobo$2b2o12b
2o2b3o7b3o35bo$23bo5bo37b2o$22b2o5b2o32bo24b2o$61b3o24b2o$12b2o31bo14b
o$11b2o31b2o14b2o11bo$13bo29b2o28b3o$44bo31bo$45bo29b2o10bo$47bobo37b
3o$8bo40bobo38bo$7bobo77b2obo$7bobo39bo36bo2bo$8bo40bo37b2o$12b2o37bo
bo23bo3bo$12bobo21b2o10bo5b2o21bo3b2o2bo$14bo21bobo9bobo25bo6bo$14b2o
22bo38b2ob2obo$38b2o10bo22b3o8bo$21b2o25bo2bo7b2o3bo9b2o4b2obo$22bo28b
o7bo3bobo9bob3o2bo$19b3o24bo3bo9bo3bobo10bo$19bo25bob2o12bo3bobob2o8b
obo$45bo13bob4o2bob2o8bobo$44b2o12bobo3bobo12b3o$58bobo2bo2b2ob2o$13b
o45bo3b2o2bobo$14bo52bobo10b2o$12b3o53bo11b2o!
EDIT: I really do wish Catagolue allowed population reduction submissions.

EDIT 2: guntrue_515 reduced (4130 -> 4071), showing an ideal use of the larger syringe catalyst

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x = 69, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
41bo11b2o$40bobo10b2o$32bo3b2o2bobo$28bo2bobo2bo2b2ob2o$19b2o5b3o2bob
o3bobo$19b2o4bo6bob4o2bob2o$25b2o7bo3bobob2o$33bo3bobo$32bo3bobo$32b2o
3bo4$45b2o$2o43b2o$bo58b2o$bobo55bo2bo$2b2o56b2obo$63bo$63b2o$6b2o40b
2o$5bo2bo40bo$6bobo37b3o$7bo26b2o10bo$34bobo$36bo$24b2obo8b2o$24b2ob3o
$2o2b2o2bo21bo$o2bobob2o15b2ob3o$bob3obo17bobo38b2o$2bo2b3o17bobo38b2o
$3b3ob2o17bo18b2o$46bo$3b3o40bobo$2bo3bo29bo10b2o$2b2o3b2obo23b3o$9bo
bo21bo$10bo22b2o$18b2o$19bo$19bob2o44b2o$20bo2bo43b2o$21b2o2$12b2o$11b
obo22b3o25b2o$11bo7b2o12b2o2bo26b2o$12b4o3bo13bobo$10bobo3bo4bo23bo3b
2o$9bobo3b2o3b2o22bobo3bo$9bo6b2obo2b2o19bobo3bo$6b2obo7bobo2bo16b2ob
obo3bo$6bo2bo12b2ob2o12b2obo2b4obo4b2o$7bobob2o3b2obo2bo20bobo3b2o5bo
$6b2o2bo2bobobobo2b2o15b2ob2obobo5b3o$8bobo2b2obo3b2o12bo5bobo3bob3o2b
o$8b2o6bob2o2b4o9bo4bobo4bo2bo$16b2obo2bo2bo7b3o5bo6b2o!
EDIT 3: Can guntrue_1030 be reduced EDIT: got a p10 weld, but not one using guntrue_515 h-to-g design (I couldn't get the block reduction on that h-to-g to work, anyone wishing to look for a weld can go right ahead) (5544 -> (EDIT: 4760))

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x = 70, y = 68, rule = B3/S23
41bo11b2o$40bobo10b2o$32bo3b2o2bobo$28bo2bobo2bo2b2ob2o$19b2o5b3o2bob
o3bobo$19b2o4bo6bob4o2bob2o$25b2o7bo3bobob2o$33bo3bobo$32bo3bobo$32b2o
3bo4$45b2o$2o43b2o$bo58b2o$bobo55bo2bo$2b2o56b2obo$63bo$63b2o$6b2o40b
2o$5bo2bo40bo$6bobo37b3o$7bo26b2o10bo$34bobo$36bo$24b2obo8b2o$24b2ob3o
$2o2b5o21bo$o2bo3b2o15b2ob3o$bobo21bobo$2bo22bobo$3b3ob2o17bo18b2o$6b
o39bo$3b3o40bobo$2bo2b3o28bo10b2o$2b2o3b4o23b3o$8b2obo21bo$10bo22b2o$
18b2o48b2o$19bo48b2o$19bob2o$20bo2bo23b2o$21b2o23b2ob2o$36b2o8b2ob2o$
36b2o10b3o$18b2o$18bobo$21bo$15bo3b2obo22bo3b2o$14bo5bobo21bobo3bo$14b
o3b3ob2o19bobo3bo$15bo2b2obo2bo14b2obobo3bo$21b3o15b2obo2b4obo$15bo2b
2obo2bo18bobo3bobo7b2o$14bo3b3ob2o14bob4obo2bo2bo7b2o$14bo5bobo15b2o5b
obo3b2o$15bo3b2obo18b2obo2b4o2bo$21bo20bob2o5bobo$18bobo20bo4b2o2b2ob
2o$18b2o22b3obobo3bo2bo$44bobob2obo2bo$46bo5b2o$45b2ob4o$51bob3o$43bo
3bo2bo2bo2bo$44bo3b2o3bobo$42b3o7b2ob2o!
EDIT 4: guntrue_505 reduced in same manner as guntrue_515 (4615 -> 4550), but it doesn't seem to hold promise for the x2 or x3 period-multiplied versions

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x = 70, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20bo2bobo$10bo11b2ob3o$10b3o15bo$13bo8b2ob3o12bo11b2o$12b2o8b2o
bo13bobo10b2o$39bobo$37b3ob2o$36bo$37b3ob2o$39bob2o6$6b2o$6b2o21b2o13b
2o$29b2o13b2o$2o57b2o$bo56bo2bo$bobo55b2obo$2b2o58bo$62b2o$47b2o$6b2o
40bo$5bo2bo36b3o$6bobo36bo$7bo4$7bo$2o2b2o2bo$o2bob3o$bobo3bo$2bo3bo60b
2o$3b3obo59b2o$7b2o37b2o$3b6o38bo$2bo3bob2o37bobo$2b2o4bobo26bo10b2o$
9bobo23b3o$10bo23bo$34b2o$19b2o$20bo$20bob2o44b2o$21bo2bo43b2o$22b2o2$
13b2o$12bobo22b3o25b2o$12bo7b2o12b2o2bo26b2o$13b4o3bo13bobo$11bobo3bo
4bo23bo3b2o$10bobo3b2o3b2o22bobo3bo$10bo6b2obo2b2o19bobo3bo$7b2obo7bo
bo2bo16b2obobo3bo$7bo2bo12b2ob2o12b2obo2b4obo4b2o$8bobob2o3b2obo2bo20b
obo3b2o5bo$7b2o2bo2bobobobo2b2o15b2ob2obobo5b3o$9bobo2b2obo3b2o12bo5b
obo3bob3o2bo$9b2o6bob2o2b4o9bo4bobo4bo2bo$17b2obo2bo2bo7b3o5bo6b2o!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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guntrue_6912 reduced with surprise weld change (3136 -> (EDIT: 3024)). I wasn't able to get another row off with different welds, but posting if anyone wants to try.

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x = 56, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
$19b2o$4b2o12bo2bo$5bo13b2o$5bobo$6b2o$12bo12bo$11bobo10bobo$12bo11bo
bo$6b2o17bo8b2o$5bobo25bo2bo$5bo14b2o12b2o$4b2o13bobo$20bo$37b2o$12b2o
23bo$12bo4b2o19b3o$13bo3b2o21bo$14bo7b2o31bo$12bob5o4bo29bobo$11bobo3b
o2b3o31b2o$11bo2bo4b2o$12b2o2$17b2o$17b2o7b2o22b2o$12bo13bo23bo$4b2o5b
obo14bo2b2o19bo$4b2o4b2obo5bo7b2o3bo10bo7b2o$10bo8bo6bo5bobo6b4o4bo3b
2o$8b3o3b4obo6b3o4b2o5b2o3bo3b4o2bo$10bobob3o12bo9bo3b2o7bob2o$12bo15b
2o10bob3o4b2obobo$49b2obobo$2o50bob2o$o5b3o4b2o37bo$b3o3b3ob5o34bobo$
3bo5b2obob2o34b2o$b2o8b3o9b3o$bo10b3o26b2o$2bo10bo27bo$b2o8bobo28b3o$
11b2o31bo4$30bo$28b2obo$25b2ob2obo$25b2ob2o2b2o$30bobo$24bob5o2bo$24b
2obo3bobo$30b2ob2o!
There also is no entry for a guntrue_4608 if anyone wants to give that a go.

Here is the also unentered guntrue_9216 for a starting point (there may be better reduction methods than CC semi-snark for 4608, so I won't post that yet)

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x = 56, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$4b2o12bo2bo$5bo13b2o$5bobo$6b2o$12bo12bo$11bobo10bobo$12bo11bob
o$6b2o17bo8b2o$5bobo25bo2bo$5bo14b2o12b2o$4b2o13bobo$20bo$37b2o$12b2o
23bo$12bo4b2o19b3o$13bo3b2o21bo$14bo7b2o31bo$12bob5o4bo29bobo$11bobo3b
o2b3o31b2o$11bo2bo4b2o$12b2o2$17b2o$17b2o7b2o22b2o$12bo13bo23bo$4b2o5b
obo14bo2b2o19bo$4b2o4b2obo5bo7b2o3bo18b2o$10bo8bo6bo5bobo8b2o4bo3b2o$
8b3o3b4obo6b3o4b2o7bo2bo3b4o2bo$10bobob3o12bo13b2o7bob2o$12bo15b2o19b
2obobo$49b2obobo$2o50bob2o$o5b3o4b2o37bo$b3o3b3ob5o34bobo$3bo5b2obob2o
34b2o$b2o8b3o9b3o18b2o$bo10b3o28bo2bo$2bo10bo30bobo$b2o8bobo28b2obo$11b
2o29b3o$42b2o3$30bo$28b2obo$25b2ob2obo$25b2ob2o2b2o$30bobo$24bob5o2bo
$24b2obo3bobo$30b2ob2o!
EDIT: Fixed guns with Elijah Ken's reduction

EDIT 2: p4608 gun with BB 2968

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x = 54, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$4b2o12bo2bo$5bo13b2o$5bobo$6b2o$12bo12bo$11bobo10bobo$12bo11bob
o$6b2o17bo8b2o$5bobo25bo2bo$5bo14b2o12b2o$4b2o13bobo$20bo$37b2o$12b2o
23bo$12bo4b2o19b3o12bo$13bo3b2o21bo10bobo$14bo7b2o28b2o$12bob5o4bo$11b
obo3bo2b3o$11bo2bo4b2o$12b2o2$17b2o30b2o$17b2o7b2o21bo$26bo24bo$4b2o22b
o2b2o14b5o$4b2o13bo7b2o3bo13bo$19bo6bo5bobo12b3o$12bo6bo6b3o4b2o15bo$
11b3o15bo17b4o$10b2o2bo13b2o12b2o3bo3b2o$9bo3b2o27b2o4b3o2bo$2o6b2o40b
ob2o$o6b3o40bo$b3o4b2o39b2o$3bo5bo3b2o$b2o7b2o2bo8b3o18b2o$bo8bo2bo29b
o2bo$2bo7bo33bobo$b2o7bo2bo28b2obo$11b2o29b3o$42b2o3$30bo$29bobo$25bo
bo2b2o$25b2o2bo2b2o$30bobo$24bob5o2bo$24b2obo3bobo$30b2ob2o!
Last edited by WhiteHawk on January 11th, 2026, 2:45 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: January 10th, 2026, 2:55 pm guntrue_6912 reduced with surprise weld change (3136 -> 3080). I wasn't able to get another row off with different welds, but posting if anyone wants to try.

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x = 56, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$3b2o12bo2bo$4bo13b2o$4bobo$5b2o$11bo12bo$10bobo10bobo$11bo11bob
o$5b2o17bo8b2o$4bobo25bo2bo$4bo14b2o12b2o$3b2o13bobo$19bo$36b2o$11b2o
23bo$11bo4b2o19b3o$12bo3b2o21bo$13bo7b2o$11bob4obo3bo32bo$10bobo3bob4o
31bobo$10bo2bo2bo37b2o$11b2o2b2o3b2o$20b2o2$17b2o$17b2o7b2o22b2o$11b2o
13bo23bo$4b2o4bobo15bo2b2o19bo$4b2o3b2o2bo13b2o3bo18b2o$10b2ob3o10bo5b
obo14bo3b2o$13b2obo9b3o4b2o14b4o2bo$15bobo11bo14b2o6bob2o$28b2o14b2o3b
2obobo$49b2obobo$2o50bob2o$o51bo$b3o6bo39bobo$3bo6bo39b2o$b2o7bo12b3o
$bo39b2o$2bo38bo$b2o8b2o29b3o$11b2o31bo4$28b3o$26b4obo$25bo2bo2bo$25b
3o4b2o$30bobo$24bob5o2bo$24b2obo3bobo$30b2ob2o!
There is a very small weld for the x12 multiplier that fits here, and should probably be mentioned on LifeWiki.

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x = 56, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$4b2o12bo2bo$5bo13b2o$5bobo$6b2o$12bo12bo$11bobo10bobo$12bo11bob
o$6b2o17bo8b2o$5bobo25bo2bo$5bo14b2o12b2o$4b2o13bobo$20bo$37b2o$12b2o
23bo$12bo4b2o19b3o$13bo3b2o21bo$14bo7b2o31bo$12bob5o4bo29bobo$11bobo3b
o2b3o31b2o$11bo2bo4b2o$12b2o2$17b2o$17b2o7b2o22b2o$12bo13bo23bo$4b2o5b
obo14bo2b2o19bo$4b2o4b2obo5bo7b2o3bo10bo7b2o$10bo8bo6bo5bobo6b4o4bo3b
2o$8b3o3b4obo6b3o4b2o5b2o3bo3b4o2bo$10bobob3o12bo9bo3b2o7bob2o$12bo15b
2o10bob3o4b2obobo$49b2obobo$2o50bob2o$o5b3o4b2o37bo$b3o3b3ob5o34bobo$
3bo5b2obob2o34b2o$b2o8b3o9b3o$bo10b3o26b2o$2bo10bo27bo$b2o8bobo28b3o$
11b2o31bo4$30bo$28b2obo$25b2ob2obo$25b2ob2o2b2o$30bobo$24bob5o2bo$24b
2obo3bobo$30b2ob2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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guntrue_858 reduced with the x6 multiplier (3636 -> 3354), which allows for fixes to the chucklebaits

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x = 83, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
5bo2bo3b2o$5b6o2bo$3b2o6b2o$2bo3b4o3b3o$bob2o6b2o2bo$bobo8bobo59bo$2o
2b8o2b2o34bo22bobo$bobo2b4o2bobo35b3o20bob3o$bobo8bobo38bo16b2obo4bo$
2bo10bo13bo24b2o16bobobobobo$27b3o7b2o33bobob2o$7b2o21bo6bo33bobo$6bo
2bo6b2o11b2o4bobo32bob2o$7b2o7bo18b2o32bobo$14bobo51bo$14b2o8b2o41bo13b
2o$3b2o19b2o14b2o24b2o2bo2b2o6b2o$2bo2bo34b2o23b3obobob3o$3b2o61b2o2b
o2b2o$19bo47bo5bo$18bobo47b5o$18b2o49b3o$26bo43bo$25b3o49b2o$24b5o47b
obo$6bo16bo5bo47bo$5bobo14b2o2bo2b2o$5bobo13b3obobob3o23b2o$6bo15b2o2b
o2b2o24b2o14b2o$10b2o17bo41b2o$10bobo15bo$12bo2b2o8bobo32b2o$12bobobo
6b2obo32bobo4b2o$11b2obo8bobo33bo6bo$14bo4b2obobo33b2o7b3o$14b2o2bobo
bobobo16b2o24bo$6bo11bo4bobobo15bo$7bo11b3obobobo16b3o$5b3o13b2o3bo19b
o!
Similarly, guntrue_918 reduced (3108 -> 2623)

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x = 58, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
5bo2bo3b2o$5b6o2bo22bo$3b2o6b2o13bo7b3o$2bo2bob2obo2b3o9bobo5bo$bob2o
2b2o2b2o2bo10bo6b2o$bobo2b4o2bobo$2ob3o4b3ob2o$bobo8bobo37b2o$bobo3b2o
3bobo37bo$2bo10bo36bobo$22b2o6bo19b2o$7b2o12bobo5b3o$6bo2bo6b2o3bo6bo
3bo$7b2o7bo3b2o7b3o22b2o$14bobo7b2o4bo23bo$14b2o7bobo26bobo$3b2o18bo23b
o4b2o$2bo2bo16b2o22b3o7b2o$3b2o12bo27bo3bo6bo$17b3o26b3o5bobo$20bo26b
o6b2o$19b2o4$6bo15bo$5bobo12b2o21b2o6bo$5bobo13bo22bo5bobo$6bo22b2o10b
3o7bo$10b2o9bo2bo4bobo9bo$10bobo9b2o7bo$12bo18b2o$12b2o4$19b2ob2o$15b
2o3bob2o2b2o$15bo2bobo6bo$17b2ob7o$10bo8bo$11bo7bob4o$9b3o8b2o2bo!
EDIT: Can guntrue_702 be reduced in this manner?

EDIT 2: Here is guntrue_678 reduced too (3015 -> 2730)

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x = 62, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
5bo2bo3b2o$5b6o2bo$3b2o6b2o$2bo3b4o3b3o$bob2o6b2o2bo$bobo8bobo43b2o$2o
2b8o2b2o42bo$bobo2b4o2bobo41bobo$bobo8bobo41b2o$2bo10bo2$7b2o$6bo2bo6b
2o$7b2o7bo$14bobo$14b2o27bo15b2o$3b2o20b2o4b2o8b2ob2o13b2o$2bo2bo19b2o
4b2o9bo2bo$3b2o38b2o$38bo$31b2o4bo$31b2o4b3o18b2o$13b2o30b2o11bo$12b2o
14b2o15b2o12b3o$14bo13b2o31bo$6bo28b3o4b2o$5bobo29bo4b2o$5bobo28bo$6b
o23b2o$10b2o17bo2bo9b2o4b2o$10bobob2o13b2ob2o8b2o4b2o$12bob2o15bo$12b
o$11b2o5$17b2o$9bo6bobo$10bo5bo$8b3o4b2o!
EDIT 3: guntrue_1260 just barely reduced (2296 -> 2279)

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x = 52, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
22b2o$19b2o2bo$18b2ob2o$18b2o$18b2o$18b2ob2o$12b3o4b2o2bo$13b3o6b2o$2o
14b2o12b4o$bo13b2o12b6o$bobo7b5o12b8o$2b2o7b4o12b2o6b2o$11b3o14b8o$5b
2o4bo17b6o$5b2o4b2o17b4o$11b3o$8b5o$10bo10bo7bob2obo$19bobo6b2ob2ob2o
$4b2o14b2o7bob2obo$5bo7b4o$2b3o7bo4bo$2bo7b3o4b3o19bo$9bo10bo16b3o$8b
ob4o2b2ob2o15bo8bob2o$8bo5bo2bobo16b2o5b4obo$6bobob3o4bobo22bo5bob2o$
6b2obobo4b2ob3o21b3obobobo$9bo12bo24bobo$9b2o10b2o22bob2obo$39bo5b2ob
obo$38bobo4bo2bob2o$24b2o12bobo4bo2bobo$23bo2bo12bo5b2obobo$24b2o8bo10b
ob2ob2o$33bobo11bobo$33bobo7b3obobo$3b8o23bo7bo5bo$3bob4obo32b5o$3b8o
34bo$19bo$20bo$18b3o!
guntrue_1080 reduced in an unrelated manner (2268 -> 1800)

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x = 45, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
29bo2b2o$29b4obo$34bo$27b7ob2obo$26bo6bobob2o$26b2o2b2obo$30b2ob2o6b2o
$41b2o$41b2o$42bo$5bo2bo4bo2bo16bo7bobo$3b3o2b6o2b3o2b2o9bobo5b2obo$5b
o2bo4bo2bo5bo9bobo$22bobo8bo$23b2o16b2o$2o39b2o$obo$bo$8bo3b4ob2obo$3b
3o2bo3bo4b2ob2o$2b3ob3o3bo4bo2b3o$bobo2b2o5bob2o3b2o11b2o$b3o29bo10bo
$b2o22b2o7b3o5bobo$3bo20bo2bo8bo6b2o$10b2o12b2o$10b2o10b2ob2o4b2obo$21b
o3b2o4b2ob3o$21bo3b2o10bo$21bo9b2ob3o$23b2o7bobo$18bo13bo$17bobo9b2ob
2o$17b3obo5bo2bo$12b3o4b4o4b2obo$17b2o3bo6bo$17b2ob3obo4bobo$15bo4b2o
bobo4b2o$13bobo8bo$13b2o!
EDIT 4: guntrue_1620 also reduced (2622 -> 2420)

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x = 55, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
45bo2b2o$45b4obo$50bo$43b7ob2o$13b2o27bo6bobo2bo$13bobo3bo4bo17b2o2b2o
bo3b2o$14b2o4bo2bobo4b2o14b2ob2o$13b2o3bob2o2bo4bobo$13b2o2b2o2bo7bo$
12b2o6b2o5b2obo15b2o$17b2o2bo5bo2bo15b2ob2o$17bobo9b2ob2o3b2o6b2obo$18b
o4b2o7bobo3bo$22b4o6bobo3bobo$22b5o4b2ob2o3b2o$26b2o$31b2ob4o16bo$10b
2o19b2obo2bo14bobo$10b2o11bo29b2o$3bo32bo$2bobo12bo16b3o$b2o17bo12bo15b
2o$bo4bo7b2o5bo11b2o14bo$2b2o2b2o5b3obo3bo28b3o$4b2o2b2ob2ob4o3bo30bo
$7bo5bo3bo2bo$bo17bo$obo$2o$23b2o$6b2o6b2o6bobo8bo$4bo4bo2bo4bo4bo9bo
bo$4bo4bo2bo4bo3b2o9bobo$4bo4bo2bo4bo15bo$6b2o6b2o3$30b2ob2o$26b2o2b2o
bo3b2o$26bo6bobo2bo$27b7ob2o$34bo$29b4obo$29bo2b2o!
guntrue_3240 likewise reduced as well (3074 -> (EDIT: 2360))

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x = 59, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
11b2o31b2o$bobo4bo6bo2b3o2b2o9bo8bobo$bob4obobo2bobobob2o2b2o2b2o4bob
ob2o4bo$2o3b2o3b4o6b3o4bobo4bob3ob2o$5b2o15bo6bo6bo3b2o$4bobo15bo5bob
2o4b4o4b3o$5bo22bo2bo5bob3o$11b2o12b2ob2o9bobo$10bo2bo6b2o2bobo13bo$11b
2o7bo3bobo5b2o$18bobo2b2ob2o3bo2bo$18b2o11b3o$7b2o14b2ob2o4bo$6bo2bo11b
o2bob2o19b2o$7b2o12b2o24b2o2$21b4o$21bo3bo5bo$24b2o4bo17bo$30b3o14bob
o$46bo3bo$10bo36bobo$9bobo45bo$9bobo44bobo$10bo46b2o$14b2o18b2o$14bob
o8bo8bobo$16bo7bobo9bo7bobo2bobo$16b2o6bobo9b2o2b2obo2bo2bo2bob2o$25b
o18bobo2bobo4$24b2ob2o$20b2o3bob2o2b2o$20bo2bobo6bo$22b2ob7o$15bo8bo$
16bo7bob4o$14b3o8b2o2bo!
I also went ahead and submitted a better solution for guntrue_9720 (EDIT: Fixed number and reduced further (3375 -> (EDIT:3139))

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x = 73, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
8bo2bo3b2o21b2o2bo$8b6o2bo20bob4o$6b2o6b2o21bo$5bo2bob2obo2b3o16b2ob7o
$4bob2o2b2o2b2o2bo14bo2bobo6bo$4bobo2b4o2bobo15b2o3bob2o2b2o$3b2ob3o4b
3ob2o18b2ob2o$4bobo8bobo$4bobo3b2o3bobo$5bo10bo$39b2o$10b2o27b2o8b2o7b
obo2bobo$9bo2bo6b2o28bo4b2obo2bo2bo2bob2o$10b2o7bo27bobo8bobo2bobo$17b
obo27b2o$17b2o$6b2o63b2o$5bo2bo61bobo$6b2o12bo50bo$20b3o34bo9bo$23bo31b
2obobo3bobob2o$22b2o13b2o16bo4bo3bo4bo$34bo3bo16bo3bo5bo3bo$34b4o18b3o
7b3o$58bo7bo$9bo26b2o$8bobo25bo24b2o$8bobo27bob2o19b2o$9bo22b2o3b2ob2o
4bo$13b2o8bo8bobo10b3o$13bobo6bobo9bo2b2ob2o3bo2bo$15bo6bobo9b2o2bobo
5b2o$15b2o6bo14bobo13bo$39b2ob2o9bobo$42bo2bo5bob3o$42bob2o4b4o4b3o$22b
2ob2o16bo6bo3b2o$18b2o3bob2o2b2o10bobo4bob3ob2o$18bo2bobo6bo10b2o4bob
ob2o4bo$20b2ob7o18bo8bobo$13bo8bo35b2o$14bo7bob4o$12b3o8b2o2bo!
Lastly, here is a reduction to guntrue_4860 (3416 -> (EDIT: 2898))

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x = 69, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
31bo2b2o23bo2b2o$31b4obo22b4obo$36bo27bo$29b7ob2o18b7ob2o$28bo6bobo2b
o15bo6bobo2bo$28b2o2b2obo3b2o15b2o2b2obo3b2o$32b2ob2o23b2ob2o3$60b2o$
35bo24b2ob2o$6b2o6b2o7b2o9bobo14b2o6b2obo$4bo4bo2bo4bo6bo9bobo15bo$4b
o4bo2bo4bo6bobo8bo16bobo$4bo4bo2bo4bo7b2o26b2o$6b2o6b2o$68bo$2o50bo13b
obo$obo9bobo35b3o14b2o$bo9bo2bo34bo$11bo2bo34b2o$10bo3bo20b2o26b2o$9b
o3bo21bo27bo$10bo14b2o9b3o25b3o$24bobo11bo27bo$26bo$35b2o$10b2o24bo2b
2o$10b2o19b2obobobobo8bo$31b2ob2o2bo9bobo$26b2o10bo9bobo$22b5o4b2ob2o
3b2o8bo$22b4o6bobo5bo$18bo4b2o7bobo3bo$17bobo9b2ob2o4b2o$17b2o2bo5bo2b
o15b2ob2o$12b2o6b2o5b2obo11b2o2b2obo3b2o$13b2o2b2o2bo7bo12bo6bobo2bo$
13b2o3bob2o2bo4bobo11b7ob2o$14b2o4bo2bobo4b2o18bo$13bobo3bo4bo20b4obo
$13b2o30bo2b2o!
EDIT 5: Other reduced guns (post is really long so I won't include the designs)
guntrue_8100 with completely different design (3834 -> (EDIT: 3139))
guntrue_4050 with a similar reduction (3876 -> 3750)
guntrue_2700 (2601 -> 2360)
guntrue_5400 (2601 -> 2440) (guntrue 8100 may be reducible along the lines of these two)
guntrue_7560 (4020 -> 3397)
Last edited by WhiteHawk on January 20th, 2026, 2:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

guntrue_3780 in a major redesign reduction (3440 -> (EDIT: 2622))

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x = 69, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
51bo$50bobo$44bo$18bo24b3o$18b3o21bobobo3b3o$21bo21bobo4b3o$8bo11b2o29b
o$9b2o$7b2o$9bo41bo$23bo9b2o8bobo4b3o$23bo9b2o7bobobo3b3o10b2o$23bo19b
3o16bo2bo$44bo18bobo$19b3o28bobo7b3ob2ob2o$51bo7bo3bo2bobo$59b3ob3o$20b
4o3b3o35b3o$2o17bob3o33b4obo5bo$o2bob2o14b2o33bo3b4ob4o$b3obobo48b2o5b
obo$5bobo31bo22b2obob2o$3b2obo10b2o12b2o6b3o23bo2bo$2bobobobo9bo12bob
o8bo22b3o$3bo3b2o6b3o8bo6bo7b2o22bo$15bo10bo6b2o24bo$26bo31bobo2b3o$44b
2o12bobo3b2o$43bo2bo12bo5bo2bo$44b2o8bo8bobob2o$53bobo6bob2o$53bobo6b
o3b3o$23b8o23bo8b3o2bo$23bob4obo34bo$23b8o$39bo$40bo$38b3o!
Posting because I am not sure the Pentadecathlon on the x6 multiplier is minimal in terms of bounding box reduction. A p4 sparker could work since 3780 is a multiple of 4, but the super thin p4 is a row too wide.

guntrue_3150 is also reduced (2964 -> 2736)

EDIT: guntrue_7020 reduced as well (3800 -> 3283)

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x = 65, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
31bo$29b5o$28bo5bo$28bo2b2obo9b2o$27b2obo13bo$26bo3b2o10bobo$5bo2bo3b
2o13bobo4bo7b2o5bo$5b6o2bo12b2ob4o2bo11b3o$3b2o6b2o19b5ob3o5bo$2bo2bo
b2obo2b3o10b2ob4o2bo10b2o$bob2o2b2o2b2o2bo11bobo4bo9b3o$bobo2b4o2bobo
11bo3b2o11b3o$2ob3o4b3ob2o11b2obo11b2o2bo$bobo8bobo13bo2b2obo$bobo3b2o
3bobo13bo5bo$2bo10bo15b5o12bo$31bo14bobo$7b2o35bo4bo4b2o4b2o2bo$6bo2b
o6b2o26bo2bo6b3o2b3o$7b2o7bo28b3o6b2o4b2o2bo$14bobo23b2o4bo$14b2o23b3o
3bo4bo$3b2o33bo4b3o4bo$2bo2bo33bobo2bo4bo$3b2o12bo17b3o2bo$17b3o15b3o
$20bo15bo10b2o$19b2o15bo8bo4bo$36bo13bobo$35bobo5b3o4bob3o$42bo3bobob
o4bo$6bo35bob2o2b3ob3o$5bobo27bobo5bo2b3o3bo$5bobo28bo7bobobobo$6bo22b
2o5bo6b2obo3bo$10b2o8bo8bobo4bo6bo2bobob2o$10bobo6bobo9bo3b3o6b2o2bob
o2bo$12bo6bobo9b2o2b3o7bob2o2b3o$12b2o6bo24bo2bobo$46b2o2bob2o$50b2ob
o2$19b2ob2o$15b2o3bob2o2b2o$15bo2bobo6bo$17b2ob7o$10bo8bo$11bo7bob4o$
9b3o8b2o2bo!
EDIT 2: (after catagolue update) More reductions
guntrue_3600 (3068 -> 2496)
guntrue_1800 (2491 -> 2145)
guntrue_7200 (3068 -> 2958) - probably reducible
guntrue_4500 (3500 -> 3234)
guntrue_1260 (2279 -> 2112) - yes, this was reduced above
guntrue_6360 (5208 -> 4960)
guntrue_5160 (3975 -> 3808)
guntrue_1880 (2730 -> 2596)

guntrue_6720 (2491 -> 2392)
guntrue_2664 (UNDEFINED -> 3185)
guntrue_7500 (3864 -> 3752) - can a p4 sparker reduce this one?

guntrue_7080 (4180 -> 4125)
guntrue_3420 (4130 -> 4002) - reducible?

guntrue_5490 (5406 -> 5252) - fixed messed up population too
Last edited by WhiteHawk on January 20th, 2026, 4:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

Major reduction to guntrue_1140 ("4312" (really 4416) -> 2961), which I think is important enough to post since no 57n guns on Catagolue seem to incorporate either the 5x or 6x multiplier (EDIT: There are a few, like guntrue_1026) and the original guntrue_1140 had incorrect bounding box.

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x = 62, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
28b2obo5bo7bo$3b2o10b2o10bo3bobo3b3o4bobo4b2o$2bo2bo8bo2bo9bobo8b4o8b
o3bo$2b3o10b3o7b2o5b2o9bo2bo3bobo2bo$5b10o9bo2b4o3bo6bo3b4obo3b2o$4bo
2b6o2bo9bo6b5o2b5o3bo$4b2o2b4o2b2o6b4ob5o6bob3ob4o6b2o$21bo4bo5b2o12b
obob2o3bo$22b3obob3obo2b2obo2b4o3bobo2bo$24bobo2bo2bo4b3o6bobo2bob2o$
9b2o14bobo3bo6bo11b2obo2bo$2o6bo2bo6b2o6bob3o8b8obo3b2ob2o$bo7b2o7bo4b
obobo13b4o2bo2bo2bobo$bobo12bobo4bo5b4o14bob4o2bo$2b2o12b2o4bo3b3o3bo
15bo6b2o$23b3o3bo20bo$25b3obo19b2o$19b2o2b2o2b2o14bo$19bo2bobo16b2ob2o
$20b3o18bo$23bo17bo3bo$22b2o18b3o3$8bo$7bobo$7bobo36b3o$8bo13bobo20bo
3bo10b2o$12b2o8b2o10b2o13bo10b2o$12bobo8bo9b3o9b2ob2o$14bo17bob2o11bo
$14b2o8b2o5bobo5bo$24b2o5bo2bo4b3o$32b2o8bo$39b2obo14bo$37bo2b3obob4o
7bo$22b2ob2o10b2o3b2ob7obobo2bo$18b2o3bob2o2b2o11b2o8b2obobo$18bo2bob
o6bo9b2o9b2o3bo3bo$20b2ob7o9bo2b3ob4o2bo4b4o$22bo17bo12b2o$22bob4o13b
4o3b2ob3o5b2o$23b2o2bo15bo3b2o5b3o2bo$45bo4b2obo3bobo$17bo26b2ob3o2bo
b2o2bo$18bo25bo2bo2bobobob2o$16b3o26b2o2b2ob2o!
guntrue_2280 can also be reduced as a result (3720 -> 3264)

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x = 68, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$bobo4bo6bo2b3o2b2o9b2obo$bob4obobo2bobobob2o2b2o8bobob3o2b3o5b3o
4b2o$2o3b2o3b4o6b3o10b3o2b2o4bob2o2b2o4bob3o$5b2o15bo8b2o3bobo8b3o2bo
3bo2bobo$4bobo15bo7bo2b5o9bobob2o2b2o3b2o$5bo25bo6b4o6b2o4b2o$11b2o15b
4ob5o3b2ob3o3b2obobo4b2o$2b2o6bo2bo6b2o5bo4bo5b2o2b2ob2o2bo2bobob2o3b
o$3bo7b2o7bo7b3obob3obo3bo4b4obobobo2bo$3bobo12bobo9bobo2bo2bo3bo2b2o
4b4o2bob2o$4b2o12b2o13bo3bo6b2obo2bo4bobobo2bo$30bo3b3o9b6obo4bo2b2o$
32b2o19bo5bobo$28bobo4b4o14bob4o2bo$28bo2b4o3bo15bo6b2o$29b3o3bo20bo$
33bobo11bo7b2o$25b2o2b2o2b2o10b2obo$25bo2bobo14bo2bo$26b3o19bo5bo$10b
o18bo5bo10bo3b2ob2o$9bobo16b2o4bo12b2o4bobo$9bobo22b3o12bo$10bo37bob3o
$14b2o34b3obo$14bobo36bo$16bo30bobo4b2o$16b2o2b2o26b2ob2o3bo9b2o$20bo
bo17b2o6bo5bo11b2o$21b3o7b2o6b3o12bo2bo$22b2o7b2o5bob2o12bob2o$19b2o16b
obo5bo9bo$19b3o15bo2bo4b3o$38b2o8bo$45b2o2bo13bo$20b2o21bo2b2o14bobo$
20b2o6b2ob2o10b2o4bob6obobo$24b2o3bob2o2b2o12b2obo2bobo2bo2b2o$24bo2b
obo6bo9b2o2b2o4b2o4bo3bo$26b2ob7o9bo2b3ob4o2bo4b4o$28bo17bo5bo3bo2bo$
28bob4o13b4ob2ob3ob2o4b2o$29b2o2bo15bo2b2o2bo3b3o2bo$51bo4b3o4bobo$23b
o26b2ob3o4b2o2bo$24bo25bo2bo2bobobob2o$22b3o26b2o2b2ob2o!
EDIT: Here is a comparison of the two most optimal p3 domino sparkers for the x5 (some instances)/x6 multiplier. Left is 59 cells and has better clearance, right is 58 cells

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x = 34, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
23.A4.A$2.2E3.E2.E11.A.A2.A.A$2.E2.6E11.A.4A.A$3.2E6.2E8.2A6.2A$3E2.E
.2E.E2.E6.A2.A.2A.A2.A$E2.2E2.2E2.2E.E4.A.2A2.2A2.2A.A$.E.E2.4E2.E.E4.
A.A2.4A2.A.A$2E.3E4.3E.2E2.2A.3A4.3A.2A$.E.E8.E.E4.A.A8.A.A$.E.E3.2E3.
E.E4.A.A3.2A3.A.A$2.E10.E6.A10.A!
And to avoid making posts too long again, here is a list of other reduced guns:

guntrue_2736 (undefined -> 3264)
guntrue_3900 (4389 -> 4218)
guntrue_5100 (4187 -> 4134)
guntrue_5340 (6734 -> 5508)
guntrue_6840 (4836 -> 4200) - gun_6840 ends up being smaller as a result.
guntrue_3450 (2379 -> 2340) - there is no entry for guntrue_6900 if anyone wants to figure out the best way to period-double this gun
guntrue_7260 (4331 -> 4080)
guntrue_8460 (4891 -> 4752)
guntrue_2000 (2948 -> 2814)
guntrue_2400 (2800 -> 2491)
guntrue_6400 (3476 -> 3149)
guntrue_8800 (4042 -> 3337)
guntrue_3456 (2860 -> 2601)
guntrue_6800 (4588 -> (EDIT: 4453)) - this one is probably a good candidate for further reduction

guntrue_5040 (3074 -> 2914)
guntrue_3360 (2688 -> 2491)
guntrue_2280 (3264 -> 2961)
guntrue_9660 (3520 -> 3355)
guntrue_4140 (2346 -> 2279)
guntrue_4608 (2916 -> 2805)

guntrue_1248 (2540 -> 2400)
guntrue_624 (1820 -> 1650)
guntrue_1872 (3009 -> 2350)

EDIT 2: Is there a better sparker for the quinti-snark to reduce this very good reduction to guntrue_9600 (3591 -> 2924)

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x = 67, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
7b2o3b2o$7bobobobo$9bobo$4b2o2bo3bo$3bobo2bobobo$2bo2bob2obo$3b3o2bob
2o16b2o$6b2o2b2o15bobo$5bo2bob2o14b3o4b2ob3o$5b2o2b2o6b2o6b3o4bo2b4o$
17b2o7b3o4b2o$27bobo$28b2o$9b2o27b2o$2o6bo2bo6b2o18b2o14b2o$bo7b2o7bo
35b2o8b2o$bobo12bobo45bo$2b2o12b2o47bo$49bo6bo7b2o$48b3o5bo6bo$19bo27b
2o2bo4bo6b3o$19b3o29b2o13bo$22bo23bo3bobo12b2o$21b2o27b2o$37b2o5bo4b2o
$37bo4b3o3bobo$28bo9b3o8b2o$8bo18bobo10bo8bobo$7bobo17bobo8b2o8bo2bo9b
2o$7bobo18bo9bo9b3o10b2o$8bo24b2o4bo10bo$12b2o10b2o6b3o3b2o8b2o$12bob
o9b2o5bob2o13b2o$14bo15bobo$14b2o14bo2bo$20bo10b2o$19bobob2o$19bobobo
bo$16b2obobobobo2bo$16bo2bo2b2ob4o$10bo7b2o4bo$11bo12bobo$9b3o13b2o!
EDIT 3:

Final entry in 120n guns up to 10000, guntrue_9480 (undefined -> 5980)

For 60n, there are more gaps, will list shortly
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

While Catagolue's update process is currently broken but population reductions will now be accepted once that's fixed (EDIT: Fixed at last - YAY!!!! :D )- remember to send escaping gliders to the southeast), here are guns more traditionally reduced by bounding box instead.

guntrue_4800 with reduction I had briefly lost record of (2881 -> 2691).

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x = 68, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
3b2o10b2o$2bo2bo8bo2bo10bobo$2b3o10b3o9bo2bo$5b10o11b2o10b2o$4bo2b6o2b
o8b2o3bo8b2o$4b2o2b4o2b2o10b2o5b2o$19b2o6bo2bo4bo$19bo2bo5bobo8bo$20b
3o16b2o$9b2o28b2o14b2o$2o6bo2bo6b4obo31b2o8b2o$bo7b2o7bo2bob3o24bo14b
o$bobo12bobo7bo22bobo14bo$2b2o12b2o7b2o21b2obo5bo7b2o$48bo8bo6bo$46b3o
3b4obo6b3o$19bo28bobob3o12bo$19b3o28bo15b2o$22bo$21b2o15b2o$38bo5b3o4b
2o$39b3o3b3ob5o$41bo5b2obob2o$8bo30b2o8b3o10b2o$7bobo29bo10b3o9b2o$7b
obo30bo10bo$8bo22b2o6b2o8bobo$12b2o10b2o5bobo15b2o$12bobo9b2o7bo$14bo
18b2o$14b2o$20bo$19bobob2o$19bobobobo$16b2obobobobo2bo$16bo2bo2b2ob4o
$10bo7b2o4bo$11bo12bobo$9b3o13b2o!
guntrue_9600 also reduced (2924 -> 2691)

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x = 68, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
3b2o10b2o$2bo2bo8bo2bo10bobo$2b3o10b3o9bo2bo$5b10o11b2o10b2o$4bo2b6o2b
o8b2o3bo8b2o$4b2o2b4o2b2o10b2o5b2o$19b2o6bo2bo4bo$19bo2bo5bobo8bo$20b
3o16b2o$9b2o28b2o14b2o$2o6bo2bo6b4obo31b2o8b2o$bo7b2o7bo2bob3o24bo14b
o$bobo12bobo7bo22bobo14bo$2b2o12b2o7b2o21b2obo5bo7b2o$48bo8bo6bo$46b3o
3b4obo6b3o$19bo28bobob3o12bo$19b3o28bo15b2o$22bo$21b2o15b2o$38bo5b3o4b
2o$39b3o3b3ob5o$28bo12bo5b2obob2o$8bo18bobo9b2o8b3o10b2o$7bobo17bobo9b
o10b3o9b2o$7bobo18bo11bo10bo$8bo24b2o4b2o8bobo$12b2o10b2o6b3o14b2o$12b
obo9b2o5bob2o$14bo15bobo$14b2o14bo2bo$20bo10b2o$19bobob2o$19bobobobo$
16b2obobobobo2bo$16bo2bo2b2ob4o$10bo7b2o4bo$11bo12bobo$9b3o13b2o!
EDIT: guntrue_288 also naturally reduced (1457 -> 1400)

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x = 50, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
28b2o3bo$26b3obobobo6bo2b2o$25bo4bobobo5bo3b2o2b2o$25bobobobobo6bo7b2o
$20b2o4b2obobo9b4o$21bo8bobo$21bob2o6bo$22bo3bo$12b2o13bo$11b3o10bo$10b
ob2o11b3o16b2o$9bobo22b3o7b2o$9bo2bo19bo3b2o$10b2o20bo2b3ob2o$4b2o10b
2o14bo2bo3b2o$3bobo9bo2bo14b2o2bo2bo$3bo12b2o17b2o2bo$2obo2bo28b4o$bo
bobo3b2o19b2o$bobobo25bo$2obo7bo16b3o$o2b4ob4o9b2o5bo$b2o3bo14bobo$3b
2o18bo7b2o$3bo19b2o2b2o4b4o$5bo12bo8b2o2b2ob3o$4b2o13bo11bo$17b3o!
EDIT 2: guntrue_784 also down with a better tuck (3723 -> 3672)

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x = 72, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
17bo$11b2o4b3o34bo$12bo2b2o3bo31b3o4b2o$b2o9bobo2b4o30bo3b2o2bo$2bo8b
2ob3obo32b2obo2bobo9b2o$2bobo3b2obobo4bo35bob2o2b2o7bo$3b2o2bo3bo3b3o
40bo7b2obo$11b2obob2o35b6obob3o3bo$6b6o22b2o21bob5o$6bo14b2o2b2o7b2o28b
o$21bo3b2o22b2o14b2o$19bobo28bo$19b2o11bobo15bobo$10b3o13b2o2bo2b2o16b
2o4bo$9bo3bo10bob2o5bo22b2o$2o6bo5bo9bo5b3o22bob6obo$2o7bo3bo10bo29b2o
2b2ob2o2b2o3b2o$10b3o6bo4bo2bo28bob6obo4b2o$20b2o3b2o3b2o31b2o$19b2o9b
2o10b2o19bo$42bo6bo$16bo17b2o4bobo6bobo$11b6o17b2o4b2o7b2o3b2o$5b2obo
b2o44bo$5b3o3bo3bo2b2o6bo30b5obo$4bo4bobob2o3bobo6b2o23bo3b3obob6o$4b
ob3ob2o8bo5b2o23bob2o7bo$2b4o2bobo9b2o20bo8bo7b2o2b2obo$2bo3b2o2bo31b
obo5b2o9bobo2bob2o$3b3o4b2o30b2o17bo2b2o3bo$5bo40b2o12b2o4b3o$45b3o18b
o$27b2o6b3o6bobo2bo2b2o$27b2o15b2o2b2o2b2o$33bo5bo8b2o$33bo5bo$19bo13b
o5bo$18bobo$19bo15b3o4$22b2o$22b2o$17b2o$16bobo$16bo$15b2o13b2o$30bo10b
o$23b2o6b3o8bo$23b2o8bo6b3o!
Also reduces guntrue_1568 by a nice and neat 200 cells (3800 -> 3600)

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x = 72, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
17bo$11b2o4b3o34bo$12bo2b2o3bo31b3o4b2o$b2o9bobo2bobo31bo3b2o2bo$2bo7b
2o2b2obobo31bobo3bobo9b2o$2bobo4bobobo2b2o37b3o2b2o7bo$3b3ob5ob2o2b2o
34bo4bobo2bo3bobo$5b2o7bo38bo2b3obo2bo3b2o$5b2o5bo21b2o18bo4bo2bo2bo$
6bo14b2o2b2o7b2o23b7o$9bo11bo3bo2bo5b2o13b2o10b3obo$19bobo11b2o15bo$10b
3o6b2o4bo2bo3b4o14bobo$9bo3bo10bo2bo3bo19b2o7bo$8bo5bo9bobo3b2o23b2o3b
3o$2o6bo5bo10bo6bo21b2o4b3ob3o$2o6bo5bo55b2o$9bo3bo11b2o27b3ob3o4b2o3b
2o$10b3o6bobo3b2o3b2o26b3o3b2o$20b2o8b2o10b2o16bo$13bo6bo21bo6bo$16bo
17b2o4bobo5bo$10bo5b2o16b2o4b2o6b3o4bob3o$8bo7b2o37b7o$4b2o2b2ob5ob3o
35bo2bo2bo4bo$5b2o2bobobo4bobo31b2o3bo2bob3o2bo$3bobob2o2b2o7bo30bobo
3bo2bobo4bo$3bobo2bobo9b2o29bo7b2o2b3o$2bo3b2o2bo39b2o9bobo3bobo$3b3o
4b2o49bo2b2o3bo$5bo54b2o4b3o$24b2o22b2o16bo$23b3o18b4o4b2o$22bob2o18b
3ob2o2b2o$21bobo12bo12bo$21bo2bo9b2ob2o$22b2o12bo$16b2o10b2o$15bobo9b
o2bo$15bo12b2o$12b2obo7bo$13bobob2o2b3o$13bobob2o2b2o$12b2obo7bo$12bo
2b4o3bo10b2o$13b2o3bo3bo10bobo$15b2o18bo$15bo13bo5b2o$16bo13bo$15b2o11b
3o!
guntrue_765 (2790 -> 2623)

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x = 60, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
6b2o5b2o2b2ob2o$6bo2b2obo2bo2bob2o16bo$7b2obob2ob2obo9bo7b3o$3b2o3bob
o4bo2bob2o5bobo5bo$o2bo2bob4obobob2o2bo6bo6b2o$3o2b2o6b3o4bo$3b2o8bo2b
2o$2bo2bobo5bo3bobo34b2o$3b2o4b2o2bo40bo$52bobo$24b2o6bo19b2o$9b2o12b
obo5b3o$2o6bo2bo6b2o3bo6bo3bo$bo7b2o7bo3b2o7b3o22b2o$bobo12bobo7b2o4b
o23bo$2b2o12b2o7bobo26bobo$25bo23bo4b2o$24b2o22b3o7b2o$19bo27bo3bo6bo
$19b3o26b3o5bobo$22bo26bo6b2o$21b2o4$8bo15bo$7bobo12b2o21b2o6bo$7bobo
13bo22bo5bobo$8bo22b2o10b3o7bo$12b2o9bo2bo4bobo9bo$12bobo9b2o7bo$14bo
18b2o$14b2o4$21b2ob2o$17b2o3bob2o2b2o$17bo2bobo6bo$19b2ob7o$12bo8bo$13b
o7bob4o$11b3o8b2o2bo!
Other reduced guns:
guntrue_610 (4422 -> 4356)
guntrue_944 (2760 -> 2574)
guntrue_1037 (8232 -> 8064)
guntrue_2130 (4450 -> 4200)
guntrue_2440 (4480 -> 4464)
guntrue_2745 (4224 -> 4158)
guntrue_2840 (5922 -> 5150)
guntrue_4260 (4800 -> 4100)
guntrue_6000 (BROKEN 3111 -> 2907)
guntrue_8520 (7008 -> 4950)
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

New month, and Catagolue is now accepting smaller-population guns (REMEMBER THAT GLIDERS SHOULD BE TRAVELLING SOUTHEAST), so new post I think is justified

Reduction to guntrue_774 (2940 -> 2408)

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x = 53, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
5bo2bo3b2o$5b6o2bo27b2o$3b2o6b2o24b2obobo6b2o$2bo2bob2obo2b3o12bo7bob
obo8bo$bob2o2b2o2b2o2bo11bobo5bo2bo2bo5bobo$bobo2b4o2bobo13bo7b2obo2b
o4b2o$2ob3o4b3ob2o23bo$bobo8bobo$bobo3b2o3bobo22b2ob2o9b2o$2bo10bo14b
2o7b2ob2o9bo$28b2o7bo11bobo$7b2o23bo8bo7b2o$6bo2bo6b2o13bobo6bobo$7b2o
7bo13bo3bo4bo3bo$14bobo14bobo6bobo$14b2o7b2o7bo8bo$3b2o13b2o2bobo11bo
7b2o$2bo2bo13bo2bo9b2ob2o7b2o$3b2o12bo2b3o9b2ob2o$17b3o$20bo5bo7bo$19b
2o4bo5bo2bob2o7bo$25b3o4bo2bo2bo5bobo$33bobobo7bo$31bobob2o$6bo9b2o13b
2o$5bobo7b2o$5bobo9bo$6bo14b2o6b2o$10b2o8bo2bo5bobo$10bobo9b3o6bo$12b
o7bo2bo7b2o$12b2o7b2o$21bo3$19b2ob2o$15b2o3bob2o2b2o$15bo2bobo6bo$17b
2ob7o$10bo8bo$11bo7bob4o$9b3o8b2o2bo!
guntrue_1692 (3053 -> 2596)

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x = 56, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
5bo2bo3b2o$5b6o2bo17b2o7bo$3b2o6b2o18b2o5b3o$2bo2b6o2b3o21bo8b2o$bob3o
4b3o2bo3b2o16b2o7bo$bo4bo2bo4bo3bo2bo2b2o18bobo$2obob6obob2o2b3o2bobo
18b2o$bobo8bobo6b2o$bobo8bobo3b2obo15b2o11bo$2bo10bo5bobo15b3o8b3o$19b
obob2o9b2o2b2o7bo$7b2o11b2ob2o8b3o2b2o7b2o$6bo2bo6b2o16b2ob2o$7b2o7bo
18b3o$14bobo19bo7bo$14b2o9b2o12b2ob3o4b2ob2o$3b2o21bo12b2ob2obo3b2obo
2bo$2bo2bo17b3o13b2ob3o7bob2o$3b2o18bo19b2o7bo$18bo10bo21b2o$18b3o7bo
19bobo2b2o$21bo6b3o17b2o2bo2bo$20b2o13b2o16b2o$36bo$33b3o5b2o$6bo26bo
7b2o$5bobo$5bobo$6bo$10b2o18b2o$10bobo17bobo$12bo19bo$12b2o8b2o8b2o$22b
2o4$20b2ob2o$16b2o3bob2o2b2o$16bo2bobo6bo$18b2ob7o$11bo8bo$12bo7bob4o
$10b3o8b2o2bo!
EDIT: guntrue_996 finally reduced without intermediate conduits besides the conduit 1 (3108 -> 2856)

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x = 68, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
63b2o$62bobo$42b2o18bo$42bo18b2o$43bo$42b2o17b4o$61bo2bo$29b2o32bo$29b
2o33b3o$56bo9bo$56b2o$42bo12bobo$7b2o32b2o11b3o9b2o$7bobo32b2o10b2o6b
2obobo$10bo2b2o39b2o6b2obo$8b2obo2bo37b3o11bo$7bobob2o49b2ob2o$8bo54b
obo$b2o60bobo$2bo21b3o37bo$2bobo9b2o7bobo$3b2o9b2o7bo3b2o$24b3o3b2o6b
o$21b3o2bob3obo4bobo$21bo2b2o3bo2bo4bobo$11b2o4b2o3b2o2b2o3bo4b2ob2o$
11bobo3bobo4bobo5b3o13b3o$12bo6bo4bobo7bob2ob2o6b2o11b2o$19b2o4bo9bob
ob2o6b2o11b2o$46b3o$2o43bobo$o2bo41b2o$b3o32bo9bo$36b3o$b3o3b2o30bo$o
bo4b2o29bo2bo$o3bo33b4o$b3obo$3bobo34b2o$4bo15bo19bo$21bo16bobo$19b3o
16b2o!
EDIT 2: It seems Catagolue isn't updating properly, as it only seems to have updated once in the last day
Anyways, reduction to guntrue_1104 (1710 -> 1702)

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x = 46, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
6bo$6bobo7bo$4bo4bo4b5o$o2bob4obo2bo5bo$4obo2bob4ob2obo$5bo2bo6bob2o$
2b2obo2bobo2bo2bo$o2bob2obo9bo24b2o$2obo5b2o3b2o2bo24b2o$3bo6b5o2bo$3b
2o$19b6o5b4o10b2o$11bo7b4o7b2obo10b2o$10b3o9b2obo7bo$24b2o5b2o$3b3o$2b
o21b2o5b2o$2bo3bo15b2obo7bo$2bo2bobo14bo7b2obo10b2o$4bobo2bo12b3o5b4o
10b2o$5bo3bo$9bo$6b3o34b2o$43b2o2$18bo$10bo6bobo$9bobo6bo$8bo3bo$9bo3b
o7bo$10bo3bo5bobo$11bo3bo2b2o2b2o$12bobo3b2ob2o$13bo3b2ob3o$17b3o14bo
$18bobo14bo$19b2o12b3o!
guntrue_2208 (2100 -> 2009)

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x = 48, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
bo9bo$b3o5b3o$4bo3bo$3b2o3b2o4$6bo12b2o8b2o$5bobo6b2o2bo2bo6b3o$6bo7b
obo2bobo5bob2o$17b2obo5bobo$18bo7bo2bo11bo$18bo8b2o12bobo$15b2ob2o20b
obo$bo13b2obo15b3o5bo$obo8bo8bo11b2obobo$obo7bobo6b2o16bo$bo8b2o7bo13b
o3bo$17bobo13bo$17b2o9b2o4bobo$6b2o21b2o$5bo2bo17bo2bo4bo11b2o$6b2o15b
6o5b2o10bo$23b3obo3bo4bo7bobo$30b2obob2o7b2o$30bo4b2o$28b4o2b3o$28b5o
$28b2o$9bo19bo2bob2o$8bobo18bo4b2o$8bobo20b4o$9bo24bo$13b2o5bo14bo$13b
obo2b2o16bo$15bo4b2o13bo$15b2o2bo$30b2o$7bo23bo$8bo19b3o$6b3o19bo!
And guntrue_9936 (2444 -> 2340)

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x = 52, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
8bo3b2o$2o4b2obob3o13b2o$2o4bo4b3o13b2o$6bo3bo$7b3o$21b2o3b2o$7b3o10b
3o3b3o$6bo3bo7b3o7b3o$2o4bo4b3o4b3o7b3o7bo$2o4b2obob3o4b3o7b3o8bo$8bo
3b2o6b3o3b3o5b3o4b2o$21b2o3b2o5bo6bo2b2o$34bob2o4b2o$34bobo$12bo22bo11b
2o$12b3o20b2o10b2o$15bo19b2o$14b2o$34bo12bo$5b2o26bo14bo$4bobo25bo4bo
6bo4bo$4bo27b3o3bo4bo3b3o$b2obo25b2o4b3o4b3o4b2o$2bobob2o23bobo14bobo
$2bobob2o23bob6o4b6obo$b2obo7b2o18bo5bo4bo5bo$bo2b4o3bo2bo7b2o9b3o10b
3o$2b2o3bo4b2o8bobo10bo10bo$4b2o18bo$4bo19b2o$2bobo$2b2o2$15bo$7bo6bo
bo$6bobo6bo$5bo3bo$6bo3bo7bo$7bo3bo5bobo$8bo3bo2b2o2b2o$9bobo3b2ob2o$
10bo3b2ob3o$14b3o14bo$15bobo14bo$16b2o12b3o!
EDIT 3: guntrue_567 (3000 -> 2688). Is there a better weld?

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x = 55, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
24b2o$25b3o$23bo4bo2b2o$21b3ob2obo3bo$20bo4bobob3o$21b3o3bobo$23bobob
obo$24b2ob2o3$b2o$b2o4b3o$6bo6bo$5b2obobo2bo10bobo$b3o6b3o10bobobo$o2b
obob2o18b2o14bo$o6bo13bo5bo2bo10b3o$4b3o4b2o7bo4bo4bo9bo$11b2o6b3o3bo
4b2o8b2o$19bo2bo$23bo2bo22b2o$7bo5b2o10bo23bobo$8bo4bo2bo34bo$3b2o2bo
19b2o22bob2o$2bo2bobob2o16bo20b2obobo$bo4b2o2b2o4bo4b2o5b3o12b2o3b2ob
obo$7b2obobo2bo5b2o7bo12b2o6bob2o$10bo2b2o15bob2o14b4o2bo$bo2bo4bo18b
2obobo14bo3b2o$3b2o5bo17bo2bo18b2o$23bo6b2o19bo$23b3o24bo$26bo23b2o$25b
2o2$16b2o$15bobo$15bo$12b2obo7bo$13bobob2o2b3o$13bobob2o2b2o$12b2obo7b
o$12bo2b4o3bo10b2o$13b2o3bo3bo10bobo$15b2o18bo$15bo13bo5b2o$17bo12bo$
16b2o10b3o!
guntrue_1701 also reduced (4425 -> 3410)

EDIT 4: Other reduced guns
guntrue_3100 (6460 -> 4760)
guntrue_8320 (4088 -> 2646)
guntrue_8400 (3074 -> 3016)

guntrue_7520 (3717 -> 3516)

guntrue_1104 (Completely different design from above, 1702 -> 1680)

guntrue_9200 (3450 -> 3264) - note that missing 80n periods in Catagolue are guntrue_7120, guntrue_7760, guntrue_8240, guntrue_8560, guntrue_8720, and guntrue_8960

guntrue_131 (4758 -> 4514)
guntrue_308 (3256 -> 3139)
Last edited by WhiteHawk on February 17th, 2026, 2:10 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by PK22 »

(Moving discussion here)
WhiteHawk wrote: February 16th, 2026, 4:50 pm It missed a couple chucklebaits which are reacting at gen 0.

Unrelated, but could lifelib be run to reduce gun populations in Catagolue?
Probably. If you provide me with a list of catalysts that can usually/sometimes be reduced, I can write a script that attempts to replace them using lifelib (ideally trying at five random points in the gun's evolution to account for reacting catalysts), and then automatically submits reduced guns to Catagolue. It should also attempt to remove components automatically to purge the last overdensified guns. I'll make a start on the latter function now.

EDIT: Yep, it works as intended. Here's guntrue_660, before and after being fed into the function - it removed the overdensifying junk, but not any of the sparks. I do need to write a period detector for false-period guns though.

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x = 114, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
2ob2obo4b2o10bo7b2o7bo3b2o25b2obo4b2o18b2o7bo$2obob4obobo9bobo2b2obobo
5b3o3b2o25bob4obobo14b2obobo5b3o$9b2o5b2o4bobo2b2obo6bo39b2o5b2o9b2obo
6bo$7bo4bo2bob3o3bo7bo5b2o5b2o29bo4bo2bob3o11bo5b2o$bo4bob8o4bo6b3obo
11bobo28bob8o4bo6b3obo$obo3bo9bobobo6bo2bo4b2o6b2o29bo9bobobo6bo2bo4b
2o$bo2b2ob8obo3b2o7b6o2bo34b2ob8obo3b2o7b6o2bo$5bobo10b2o2bo7b4o3bo35b
obo10b2o2bo7b4o3bo$3bobob2o3b3o5b3o13bo34bobob2o3b3o5b3o13bo$3b2ob2o3b
3o8bo17bobo28b2ob2o3b3o8bo17bobo$3b2ob2o8b3o3bo17b2obo27b2ob2o8b3o3bo
17b2obo$15bo2bo3bo20bo39bo2bo3bo20bo$15b2obo3bo15b5ob2o37b2obo3bo15b5o
b2o$bo14bobob2o15bo4bobo39bobob2o15bo4bobo$obo13bobobo16bo2b2o2bo39bob
obo16bo2b2o2bo$bo3bo6b2o3bo2bo10b2o8bo2b2o34b2o3bo2bo10b2o8bo2b2o$4bob
o4b3o4b2o10b5o3bo3b2o35b3o4b2o10b5o3bo3b2o$bo3bo4bob2o15bo3b2o5b2obo
34bob2o15bo3b2o5b2obo$obo6bobo18b2o2bo6bobobo31bobo18b2o2bo6bobobo$bo
7bo2bo18b3o7bo2b2o31bo2bo18b3o7bo2b2o$10b2o20b3o5b2o36b2o20b3o5b2o$4b
2o28bo37b2o28bo$3bobo65bobo$3bo23b2o14b3o25bo23b2o$2obo24bo6b3o30b2obo
24bo$bobob2o18b3o41bobob2o18b3o$bobob2o18bo14b3o26bobob2o18bo$2obo7b2o
20b2o33b2obo7b2o20b2o$o2b4o3bo2bo7b2o8bo4bo31bo2b4o3bo2bo7b2o8bo4bo$b
2o3bo4b2o8bobo6bo6bo5b3o23b2o3bo4b2o8bobo6bo6bo$3b2o18bo5bo8bo32b2o18b
o5bo8bo$3bo19b2o4bo8bo32bo19b2o4bo8bo$b2o2bobo21bo8bo30b2o2bobo21bo8bo
$o2b3ob3o20bo6bo30bo2b3ob3o20bo6bo$b2o3bo3bo20bo4bo5bo26b2o3bo3bo20bo
4bo$2bo2bo2bo2bob2o18b2o7bo27bo2bo2bo2bob2o18b2o$o4bob2ob2obo28bo25bo
4bob2ob2obo$6obo2bo2bo2bo13b2ob2ob2o30b6obo2bo2bo2bo13b2ob2ob2o$7bo2bo
2bobobo6bo5b2o4b2o37bo2bo2bobobo6bo5b2o4b2o$2o2bobo4b2o2bobo7bo4b2ob2o
b2o6b2o22b2o2bobo4b2o2bobo7bo4b2ob2ob2o$2o2b2o9b2o6b3o18b2o22b2o2b2o9b
2o6b3o!
Last edited by PK22 on February 16th, 2026, 5:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: February 1st, 2026, 5:29 pm ...
EDIT 3: guntrue_567 (3000 -> 2688). Is there a better weld?

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x = 55, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
24b2o$25b3o$23bo4bo2b2o$21b3ob2obo3bo$20bo4bobob3o$21b3o3bobo$23bobob
obo$24b2ob2o3$b2o$b2o4b3o$6bo6bo$5b2obobo2bo10bobo$b3o6b3o10bobobo$o2b
obob2o18b2o14bo$o6bo13bo5bo2bo10b3o$4b3o4b2o7bo4bo4bo9bo$11b2o6b3o3bo
4b2o8b2o$19bo2bo$23bo2bo22b2o$7bo5b2o10bo23bobo$8bo4bo2bo34bo$3b2o2bo
19b2o22bob2o$2bo2bobob2o16bo20b2obobo$bo4b2o2b2o4bo4b2o5b3o12b2o3b2ob
obo$7b2obobo2bo5b2o7bo12b2o6bob2o$10bo2b2o15bob2o14b4o2bo$bo2bo4bo18b
2obobo14bo3b2o$3b2o5bo17bo2bo18b2o$23bo6b2o19bo$23b3o24bo$26bo23b2o$25b
2o2$16b2o$15bobo$15bo$12b2obo7bo$13bobob2o2b3o$13bobob2o2b2o$12b2obo7b
o$12bo2b4o3bo10b2o$13b2o3bo3bo10bobo$15b2o18bo$15bo13bo5b2o$17bo12bo$
16b2o10b3o!
Yup!

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x = 58, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
$25b2o$26b3o$24bo4bo2b2o$22b3ob2obo3bo$21bo4bobob3o$22b3o3bobo$24bobo
bobo$25b2ob2o3$2b2o5bo$2b2o4b2o15b2o$6b2o17b2ob2o$3bo2b3ob2o2bo9b2obo
$2b3obo2bob3o8b3o$bo2b2ob3o2bo7b2ob2o19bo$8b2o9bo22b3o$6b2o4b2o5b2ob2o
17bo$6bo5b2o5bo4bo8bo7b2o$20b2ob2o6bobo$20bo3bo7b2o16b2o$14b2o5b3o26b
obo$8b2o4b2o36bo$4b2ob2obo17b2o22bob2o$3b4obob3o15bo20b2obobo$22b2o5b
3o12b2o3b2obobo$7b3obob4o5b2o7bo12b2o6bob2o$9bob2ob2o11b3obob2o14b4o2b
o$4b2o4b2o16bobobobo14bo3b2o$4b2o17b2obo5bo18b2o$23bob3o3b2o19bo$28bo
22bo$27b2o22b2o2$18b2o$17bobo$17bo$14b2obo$15bobob2o$15bobob2o$14b2ob
o7b2o$14bo2b4o3bo2bo7b2o$15b2o3bo4b2o8bobo$17b2o18bo$17bo19b2o$19bo$18b
2o$34bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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PK22 wrote: February 16th, 2026, 5:02 pm EDIT: Yep, it works as intended. Here's guntrue_660, before and after being fed into the function - it removed the overdensifying junk, but not any of the sparks. I do need to write a period detector for false-period guns though.
A problem with guntrue_660, besides the weirdly large still-life, is the fact that it's bounding box is wrong as a result of the BB glitch which was never fixed for Catagolue submissions. As a result, it won't get submitted since it ends up being "larger" when run a full cycle.

I also compiled all of the things I could think of to fix guns in the Gun solutions thread

EDIT: Gun reductions

guntrue_2268 (3726 -> 3416)
guntrue_4512 (3264 -> 3038)
guntrue_2256 (2750 -> 2600)
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Period-27 glider gun reduced from 44x45 (1980-cell BB) to 46x35 (1610-cell BB) with the assistance of a period-9 T-nose oscillator found by the Siffrin Normal search in H8_1, and a modified p3 thumb to actually allow the use of the modified p9 sparker:

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x = 35, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
20bo8b2o$14b2o3bobo4bo2bobo$14bo3bobobo2bobobo2bo$10b2o3bo2bobobo3bobo
bobo$10bo2bobo3b3o4bo3bob2o$12b2obob2o6b2o5bo$13bobobo5b2obo2b3o2bo$
12bo3bo2b3o2b2o5bob2o$11bo11bo7bo$12b3o8bo5b3o$6bo8bo3b4obo3bo$6b3o5b
2o5b3o4b2o$9bo$8b2o16bo$16bo9bo$15bob2o7bo5b2o$15bo2bo9bobo2bo$3bo12b
3o7bob5o$3b3o20bo$6bo19bob5o$5b2o21bobo2bo$19bo6bo5b2o$8bo9bobo5bo$8bo
5bobo9bo$b2o5bo6bo$bo2bobo21b2o$2b5obo19bo$8bo20b3o$2b5obo7b3o12bo$bo
2bobo9bo2bo$b2o5bo7b2obo5bo$8bo9bo7bo$8bo15b3o2$5b2o4b3o5b2o$6bo3bob4o
3bo$3b3o5bo8b3o$3bo7bo11bo7bo$2obo5b2o2b3o2bo3bo9b2o$o2b3o2bob2o5bobob
o9b2o$2bo5b2o6b2obob2o$b2obo3bo4b3o3bobo2bo$2bobobobo3bobobo2bo3b2o$2b
o2bobobo2bobobo3bo$3bobo2bo4bobo3b2o$4b2o8bo!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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iNoMed wrote: February 19th, 2026, 9:24 am Period-27 glider gun reduced from 44x45 (1980-cell BB) to 46x35 (1610-cell BB) with the assistance of a period-9 T-nose oscillator found by the Siffrin Normal search in H8_1, and a modified p3 thumb to actually allow the use of the modified p9 sparker:

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x = 35, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
20bo8b2o$14b2o3bobo4bo2bobo$14bo3bobobo2bobobo2bo$10b2o3bo2bobobo3bobo
bobo$10bo2bobo3b3o4bo3bob2o$12b2obob2o6b2o5bo$13bobobo5b2obo2b3o2bo$
12bo3bo2b3o2b2o5bob2o$11bo11bo7bo$12b3o8bo5b3o$6bo8bo3b4obo3bo$6b3o5b
2o5b3o4b2o$9bo$8b2o16bo$16bo9bo$15bob2o7bo5b2o$15bo2bo9bobo2bo$3bo12b
3o7bob5o$3b3o20bo$6bo19bob5o$5b2o21bobo2bo$19bo6bo5b2o$8bo9bobo5bo$8bo
5bobo9bo$b2o5bo6bo$bo2bobo21b2o$2b5obo19bo$8bo20b3o$2b5obo7b3o12bo$bo
2bobo9bo2bo$b2o5bo7b2obo5bo$8bo9bo7bo$8bo15b3o2$5b2o4b3o5b2o$6bo3bob4o
3bo$3b3o5bo8b3o$3bo7bo11bo7bo$2obo5b2o2b3o2bo3bo9b2o$o2b3o2bob2o5bobob
o9b2o$2bo5b2o6b2obob2o$b2obo3bo4b3o3bobo2bo$2bobobobo3bobobo2bo3b2o$2b
o2bobobo2bobobo3bo$3bobo2bo4bobo3b2o$4b2o8bo!
Reduced to 48x33 = 1584 cells via some new p3 thumbs (found with LLS) (No smaller solutions exist):

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x = 48, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
25b2o3b2o$25bobobobo$18b2o7bobo7b2o$19bo6b2ob2o6bo$19bobo3bobobobo3bob
o4b2o$2o9b2o7b2o2bo3bo3bo2b2o3bo2bo$obo9bo10bo3b3o3bo6b2obob2o$2b3o7bo
bo8b2ob5ob2o9bo2bo$bo3bo7b2o24bobobobo$bob3o30bo2bo3bo$2ob2o30bob2obo$
2bobo4b2o24b2o6bo2b2o$2bo7bo24b2o2bo2bobo2bo$b2ob3o3bobo23bo2bo2b5o$3b
obobo3b2o3b3o10b3o4bo2bo2bo$b2o5bo6bo3bo8bo3bo8bob4o$o5b2o6bo5bo6bo5bo
6b2o5bo$b4obo8bo3bo8bo3bo6bo5b2o$5bo2bo2bo4b3o10b3o3b2o3bobobo$b5o2bo
2bo23bobo3b3ob2o$o2bobo2bo2b2o24bo7bo$2o2bo6b2o24b2o4bobo$7bob2obo30b
2ob2o$4bo3bo2bo30b3obo$2bobobobo23bobo7bo3bo$bo2bo9b2ob5ob2o8b2o8b3o$b
2obob2o6bo3b3o3bo8bo11bobo$4bo2bo3b2o2bo3bo3bo2b2o18b2o$4b2o4bobo3bobo
bobo3bobo$10bo6b2ob2o6bo$9b2o7bobo7b2o10bo$16bobobobo18bo$16b2o3b2o16b
3o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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ElijahKen wrote: February 19th, 2026, 5:59 pm
iNoMed wrote: February 19th, 2026, 9:24 am Period-27 glider gun reduced from 44x45 (1980-cell BB) to 46x35 (1610-cell BB) with the assistance of a period-9 T-nose oscillator found by the Siffrin Normal search in H8_1, and a modified p3 thumb to actually allow the use of the modified p9 sparker:
Reduced to 48x33 = 1584 cells via some new p3 thumbs (found with LLS) (No smaller solutions exist):
Is there a way to filter the glider stream and reduce the p81 glider gun? Naturally tremi-snark doesn't work.

EDIT immediately: Got it!

guntrue_81 (3752 -> 3456)

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x = 72, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
5b2o3bo5bo3b2o28b2o3bo5bo3b2o$5bo2b3o2bobobobobo3b2o18b2o3bobobobobo2b
3o2bo$6b2o3b3obobobo5b2o18bobo4bobobob3o3b2o$7bo2bo3bo2bo2bo3bo26b2ob
o2bo3b2obo$7bob2obo2b3obo2b7o14b6obobobo3bob3obo$8bo5b3o2b2o7bo14bo7b
3o3b2o3b2o$13bo2bo7b3o18bobo6b2o2bo$14bobo5b3ob2o16b2o3bo5bobo$15bo3b
obobo23b2o2b3o2bo$11bo6b2o10bo10bo7bo10bo$11b3o4b2o3bo4b3o10b3o5bo8b3o
$5bo8bo4b3obo3bo16bo3bob4o3bo8bo$5b3o5b2o7bo4b2o14b2o4b3o5b2o5b3o$8bo
54bo$7b2o16bo19b2o17bo$15b3o7b2o17bobo14bo2bo$14bob2o8b2o3b2o6b2o2bo11b
3o2bo$14bo3bo7b2obo2bo6bo2bo3bo15bo$2bo12b3o8bo2b3o8b4ob2o4b3obobo11b
o$2b3o10b3o8bo17b3o6bo3bo9b3o$5bo20bo2b3o8b4ob2o5bo3b3o7bo$4b2o20b2ob
o2bo6bo2bo3bo10b2o7b2o$26b2o3b2o6b2o2bo15bo$7bo17b2o17bobo6bo3b2o5b2o
$6b2o17bo19b2o5b2o3bo6bobo$2o3b2o44bo15bo2b2o$o2bob2o20b2o14b2o7b2o10b
o3bo2bo$b3o2bo20bo16bo7b3o3bo5b2ob4o$6bo8b3o10b3o10b3o9bo3bo6b3o$b3o2b
o8b3o12bo10bo11bobob3o4b2ob4o$o2bob2o7bo3bo29bo15bo3bo2bo$2o3b2o8b2ob
o29bobo2b3o11bo2b2o$6b2o7b3o7bo22b2o14bobo$7bo15bobo38b2o$24b2o$4b2o4b
o7b2o32b2o5b3o4b2o$5bo3bob3o4bo34bo3b4obo3bo$2b3o4bo3b2o4b3o19bobo6b3o
8bo5b3o$2bo10b2o6bo19b2o7bo10bo7bo$9bobobo3bo12bobo9bo11bo2b3o2b2o$5b
2ob3o5bobo12b2o20bobo5bo3b2o$6b3o7bo2bo11bo20bo2b2o6bobo$4bo7b2o2b3o5b
o22b2o3b2o3b3o7bo$4b7o2bob3o2bob2obo20bob3obo3bobobob6o$8bo3bo2bo2bo3b
o2bo20bob2o3bo2bob2o$6b2o5bobobob3o3b2o11bo6b2o3b3obobobo4bobo$6b2o3b
obobobobo2b3o2bo11bo4bo2b3o2bobobobobo3b2o$11b2o3bo5bo3b2o9b3o4b2o3bo
5bo3b2o!
Can there be population reductions?
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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There can be bounding box reduction: (72x48 to 69x48)

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x = 69, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
19bo8b2o$13b2o3bobo4bo2bobo15b2o3bo5bo3b2o$13bo3bobobo2bobobo2bo9b2o3b
obobobobo2b3o2bo$9b2o3bo2bobobo3bobobobo9b2o5bobobob3o3b2o$9bo2bobo3b
3o4bo3bob2o10bo3bo2bo2bo3bo2bo$11b2obob2o6b2o5bo7b7o2bob3o2bob2obo$12b
obobo5b2obo2b3o2bo5bo7b2o2b3o5bo$11bo3bo2b3o2b2o5bob2o7b3o7bo2bo$10bo
11bo7bo9b2ob3o5bobo$11b3o8bo5b3o13bobobo3bo$5bo8bo3b4obo3bo9bo10b2o6bo
$5b3o5b2o5b3o4b2o8b3o4bo3b2o4b3o$8bo31bo3bob3o4bo8bo$7b2o15b2o13b2o4bo
7b2o5b3o$17bo8bo32bo$16bobo6bobo3b2o9bo16b2o$10b3o2b2o8b2o5bo8bobo$2bo
7bo7bo4bo3b5o3b2o14b3o$2b3o6bo5b2o4bo11bo2bo4bo6b2obo$5bo13bo3bo3b5o4b
6o9b2o12bo$4b2o7bobob2o6b2o5bo10bo19b3o$14bob3o6bobo3b2o3b6o20bo$7b2o
17bo8bo2bo4bo18b2o$6bo17b2o9b2o12bo$2o3bobo6b3obo22bobo4bobobobo5bo$o
5b2o6b2obobo7b2o13bo5bobobobo4bobo$b5o3bo3bo13bo25bo12b2o$9bo4b2o5bo6b
3o8b2o18bo4bo2bo$b5o3bo4bo7bo7bo9bo20b6o$o5b2o8b2o2b3o14b3o19bo$2o3bob
o6bobo20bo12b2o9b6o$6bo8bo33bob2o6bo4bo2bo$7b2o35bo4b3o14b2o$42b2o15bo
bo$4b2o4b3o5b2o7bo15b2o15bo$5bo3bob4o3bo9b2o$2b3o5bo8b3o5b2o11bo7b2o7b
o4b2o$2bo7bo10bo17bobo7bo4b3obo3bo$8b2o2b3o2bo21b2o5b3o4b2o3bo4b3o$5b
2o3bo5bobo26bo7b2o10bo$6bobo6b2o2bo26bo3bo3bobobo6bob2o$4bo7b3o3b2o3b
2o22bobobo5b2ob2o2b2o2bo$4b6obobobo3bob3obo20b2obobo8b4o2bo$12b2obo2bo
3b2obo18bo2bobobo2b2o7b2ob2o$6bobo4bobobob3o3b2o17b2o3b4obobo2bo2bobob
o$6b2o3bobobobobo2b3o2bo20bo3bobobo2bobobo2bo$11b2o3bo5bo3b2o20b2o3bob
o4bo2bobo$54bo8b2o!
Edit: 67x47 with wild welds:

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x = 67, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
19bo8b2o6b2o8bo$13b2o3bobo4bo2bobo4bobo2bo4bobo3b2o$13bo3bobobo2bobobo
2bo2bo2bobobo2bobobo3bo$9b2o3b4obobo2bo2bobobo2bobobobo3bobobo2bo3b2o$
9bo2bobobo2b2o7b2obob2obo3bo4b3o3bobo2bo$11b2obobo8b4o2bo2bo5b2o6b2obo
b2o$12bobobo5b2ob2o2b2obo2b3o2bob2o5bobobo$11bo3bo3bobobo6bob2obo5b2o
2b3o2bo3bo$10bo7b2o10bo4bo7bo11bo$11b3o4b2o3bo4b3o4b3o5bo8b3o$5bo8bo4b
3obo3bo10bo3bob4o3bo8bo$5b3o5b2o7bo4b2o8b2o4b3o5b2o5b3o$8bo48bo$7b2o
16bo14bo16b2o$24bobo5b2o6bo8bo$14b3o14bo2bo5bo8bo4b2o$14bob2o6bo4bo2b
2o2bobo8b2obo4b2o$2bo12b2o9b6o2b5obo5b5o3bo8bo$2b3o19bo7b2o6bo20b3o$5b
o20b6o2b5obo4bo4bo9bo$4b2o18bo4bo2b2o2bobo6bo5bo8b2o$18bo12bo2bo5bo5bo
2bob2o$7bo5bobobobo4bobo5b2o6bo10bo6bo$6bobo4bobobobo5bo14bo6bo10bo$2o
12bo31b2obo2bo5bo5b2o$o2bo4bo18b2o8b2o8bo5bo6bobo2bo$b6o20bo10bo9bo4bo
4bob5o$8bo19b3o4b3o20bo$b6o9b2o12bo4bo8bo3b5o5bob5o$o2bo4bo6b2obo23b2o
4bob2o8bobo2bo$2o14b3o4bo19b2o4bo8bo5b2o$6bobo15b2o23bo8bo$7bo15b2o33b
o2$4b2o4bo7b2o26b2o5b3o4b2o$5bo3bob3o4bo28bo3b4obo3bo$2b3o4bo3b2o4b3o
22b3o8bo5b3o$2bo10b2o6bo9bo11bo11bo7bo$9bobobo3bo11bobo12bo3bo2b3o2b2o
5bob2o$5b2ob3o5bobo11b2o13bobobo5b2obo2b3o2bo$6b3o7bo2bo24b2obob2o6b2o
5bo$4bo7b2o2b3o5bo17bo2bobo3b3o4bo3bob2o$4b7o2bob3o2bob2obo16b2o3bo2bo
bobo3bobobobo$8bo3bo2bo2bo3bo2bo20bo3bobobo2bobobo2bo$6b2o5bobobob3o3b
2o19b2o3bobo4bo2bobo$6b2o3bobobobobo2b3o2bo24bo8b2o$11b2o3bo5bo3b2o!
Edit 2: 68x46 (3126-cell BB) and that's mission complete on reducing the p81.

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x = 68, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
20bo8b2o6b2o8bo$14b2o3bobo4bo2bobo4bobo2bo4bobo3b2o$14bo3bobobo2bobobo
2bo2bo2bobobo2bobobo3bo$10b2o3b4obobo2bo2bobobo2bobobobo3bobobo2bo3b2o
$10bo2bobobo2b2o7b2obob2obo3bo4b3o3bobo2bo$12b2obobo8b4o2bo2bo5b2o6b2o
bob2o$13bobobo5b2ob2o2b2obo2b3o2bob2o5bobobo$12bo3bo3bobobo6bob2obo5b
2o2b3o2bo3bo$11bo7b2o10bo4bo7bo11bo$12b3o4b2o3bo4b3o4b3o5bo8b3o$6bo8bo
4b3obo3bo10bo3bob4o3bo8bo$6b3o5b2o7bo4b2o8b2o4b3o5b2o5b3o$9bo48bo$8b2o
16bo14bo16b2o$25bobo5b2o6bo8bo$15b3o14bo2bo5bo8bo4b2o$15bob2o6bo4bo2b
2o2bobo8b2obo4b2o$3bo12b2o9b6o2b5obo5b5o3bo8bo$3b3o19bo7b2o6bo20b3o$6b
o20b6o2b5obo4bo4bo9bo$5b2o18bo4bo2b2o2bobo6bo5bo8b2o$19bo12bo2bo5bo5bo
2bob2o$8bo5bobobobo4bobo5b2o6bo10bo6bo$7bobo4bobobobo5bo14bo6bo10bo$b
2o12bo31b2obo2bo5bo5b2o$bo2bo4bo18b2o8b2o8bo5bo6bobo2bo$2b6o20bo10bo9b
o4bo4bob5o$9bo19b3o4b3o20bo$2b6o9b2o12bo4bo8bo3b5o5bob5o$bo2bo4bo6b2ob
o23b2o4bob2o8bobo2bo$b2o14b3o4bo19b2o4bo8bo5b2o$7bobo15b2o23bo8bo$8bo
15b2o33bo2$5b2o4bo7b2o26b2o5b3o4b2o$6bo3bob3o4bo28bo3b4obo3bo$3b3o4bo
3b2o4b3o22b3o8bo5b3o$3bo10b2o7bo8bo11bo11bo7bo$2obo6bobobo3bo3bo7bobo
12bo3bo2b3o2b2o5bob2o$o2b2o2b2ob2o5bobobo9b2o13bobobo5b2obo2b3o2bo$2bo
2b4o8bobob2o22b2obob2o6b2o5bo$b2ob2o7b2o2bobobo2bo18bo2bobo3b3o4bo3bob
2o$2bobobo2bo2bobob4o3b2o18b2o3bo2bobobo3bobobobo$2bo2bobobo2bobobo3bo
26bo3bobobo2bobobo2bo$3bobo2bo4bobo3b2o26b2o3bobo4bo2bobo$4b2o8bo38bo
8b2o!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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iNoMed wrote: February 19th, 2026, 6:59 pm
Edit 2: 68x46 (3126-cell BB) and that's mission complete on reducing the p81.
Not quite, because here is an unoptimized reduction to guntrue_243 (4484 -> 4355) that some weld could theoretically improve

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x = 67, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
20bo8b2o6b2o8bo$14b2o3bobo4bo2bobo4bobo2bo4bobo3b2o$14bo3bobobo2bobob
o2bo2bo2bobobo2bobobo3bo$10b2o3bo2bo3bo2b2obobobo2bobobobo3bobobo2bo3b
2o$10bo2bobobo2b2o4bo2bo2b2obobo3bo4b3o3bobo2bo$12b2obob4o3bob2obo2bo
2bo5b2o6b2obob2o$13bobobob2o2bo2bo3b2o2bob3o2bob2o5bobobo$12bo3bo3bob
o2bo5bob2obo5b2o2b3o2bo3bo$11bo8bob2o7bo4bo7bo11bo$12b3o5b2ob2o4b3o4b
3o5bo8b3o$6bo8bo4bo3bo3bo10bo3bob4o3bo8bo$6b3o5b2o7bo4b2o8b2o4b3o5b2o
5b3o$9bo12bo35bo$8b2o16bo14b2o15b2o$18bo6bobo5b2o5bo$12bo3b2o8bobo3bo
2bo3bobo9b2o$11b2o3b2o7b2o3bo2b2o5b2o8bobo$3bo7bobo3bobo5bob6o2b5o3bo
4bobo13bo$3b3o12b3o2b3o7b2o8bo6bo11b3o$6bo10bo2bo4bob6o2b5o3bo17bo$5b
2o8b2o3bo4b2o3bo2b2o5b2o19b2o$15b3obo6bobo3bo2bo3bobo$8bo9bo6bobo5b2o
5bo6b2o2b2obo3b2o$7bobo6bo9bo14b2o3bob2o2b2o6bo$b2o3bobo6bob3o39bobo3b
2o$bo2bo3b2o4bo3b2o8b2o8b2o19b2o5bo$2b6obo4bo2bo10bo10bo17bo3b5o$9b3o
2b3o12b3o4b3o11bo6bo$2b6obo5bobo3bobo7bo4bo13bobo4bo3b5o$bo2bo3b2o7b2o
3b2o24bobo8b2o5bo$b2o3bobo8b2o3bo19bobo3b2o9bobo3b2o$7bobo6bo25b2o16b
o$8bo34bo14b2o$12bo$5b2o4bo7b2o8bo17b2o5b3o4b2o$6bo3bo3bo4bo10bo17bo3b
4obo3bo$3b3o4b2ob2o5b3o5b3o5bo8b3o8bo5b3o$3bo7b2obo8bo11bo9bo10bo7bo$
2obo5bo2bobo3bo3bo12b3o11bo2b3o2b2o$o2b2o3bo2bo2b2obobobo26bobo5bo3b2o
$2bo2bob2obo3b4obob2o24bo2b2o6bobo$b2o2bo2bo4b2o2bobobo2bo17b2o3b2o3b
3o7bo$2bobobob2o2bo3bo2bo3b2o16bob3obo3bobobob6o$2bo2bobobo2bobobo3bo
9bo10bob2o3bo2bob2o$3bobo2bo4bobo3b2o7b2o10b2o3b3obobobo4bobo$4b2o8bo
14b2o8bo2b3o2bobobobobo3b2o$39b2o3bo5bo3b2o$11bo$11b3o$14bo$13b2o2$4b
2o$3bobo$3bo$2obo7bo$bobob2o2b3o$bobob2o2b2o$2obo7bo$o2b4o3bo10b2o$b2o
3bo3bo10bobo$3b2o18bo$3bo13bo5b2o$5bo12bo$4b2o10b3o!
guntrue_729 (5310 -> 5293) - also reduces guntrue_2187 once p243 is optimized

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x = 79, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
24b2o3b2o$24bobobobo$17b2o7bobo7b2o$18bo6b2ob2o6bo$18bobo3bobobobo3bo
bo4b2o$10b2o7b2o2bo3bo3bo2b2o3bo2bo$11bo10bo3b3o3bo6b2obob2o$11bobo8b
2ob5ob2o9bo2bo$12b2o24bobobobo$3b2o30bo2bo3bo$3bo4bo25bob2obo$5bobobo
24b2o6bo2b2o$4b3o2bo24b2o2bo2bobo2bo$b2o6bobo23bo2bo2b5o$bob4o3b2o3b3o
10b3o4bo2bo2bo$7bo6bo3bo8bo3bo8bob4o$5b2o6bo5bo6bo5bo6b2o5bo$2b2obo8b
o3bo8bo3bo6bo5b2o$bo2bo2bo2bo4b3o10b3o3b2o3bobobo$ob3o2bo2bo23bobo3b3o
b2o$bo2bo2bo2b2o24bo7bo$2b2o6b2o24b2o4bobo$6bob2obo30b2ob2o$6b2o2bo30b
3obo$2bo2bobo23bobo7bo3bo$bob4o6b2ob5ob2o8b2o8b3o24bo2b2o$2bo10bo3b3o
3bo8bo11bobo22b4obo$3bo6b2o2bo3bo3bo2b2o18b2o27bo$3o3bo2bobo3bobobobo
3bobo39b7ob2o$o2b2obo2bo6b2ob2o6bo38bo6bobo2bo$bo4b4o7bobo7b2o10bo26b
2o2b2obo3b2o$2b4o9bobobobo18bo29b2ob2o$6b2o6bobobobobo15b3o$4bo2bo6bo
bobobobo$2b4o9bobobobo48b2o$bo4b4o7bobo7b2o41b2ob2o$o2bo2bo2bo7bobo7b
o33b2o6b2obo$3ob2o3bobo3bobobobo3bobo34bo$3bo6b3obobo3bobob3o35bobo$2b
o2bo6b2ob2o3b2ob2o38b2o$bob4o6b2obo3bob2o$2b2o3bo9b3o10bo47bo$5bo3b2o
19b2o9b2o19bo13bobo$6bob2obo17bobo5bo4bo17b3o14b2o$2b2o3b2o3bo23bobob
o18bo$bo2bo4bo8bo5b2o10bo2b3o17b2o$obob7o5b2o4b2o10bobo6b2o28b2o$bo3b
2o10b2o3b2o5bo4b2o3b4obo28bo$2b2obo10b3o6b2obob2o6bo35b3o$4b3o9bo12bo
9b3o34bo$7bo6b2obob2o6b3o10bob2o15bo$bob4o3b2o4bo5b2o3b2o10b2o3bo13bo
bo$b2o6bobo10b2o4b2o5b7obobo3b2o7bo2bo$4b3o2bo10b2o5bo8bo4bo2bo3bobo6b
o3bo$5bobobo23bo3b2o3b2o4bo7b2obob2o$3bo4bo6bo18bob2obo7b2o7bo4bo$3b2o
30b2o3bo16b4o$12b2o12b3o9bo3b2o15bo$11bobo8b2obo3bob2o6b4obo$11bo9b2o
b2o3b2ob2o6bo2bo$10b2o7b3obobo3bobob3o6bo13b2ob2o$18bobo3bobobobo3bob
o3b2ob3o6b2o2b2obo3b2o$18bo7bobo7bo2bo2bo2bo6bo6bobo2bo$17b2o7bobo7b4o
4bo8b7ob2o$24bobobobo9b4o16bo$24b2o3b2o7bo2bo13b4obo$38b2o15bo2b2o!

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x = 88, y = 68, rule = B3/S23
38b2o15bo2b2o$24b2o3b2o7bo2bo13b4obo$24bobobobo9b4o16bo$17b2o7bobo7b4o
4bo8b7ob2o$18bo7bobo7bo2bob2o2bo6bo6bobo2bo$18bobo5bobo5bobo2bo3b3o6b
2o2b2obo3b2o$10b2o7b2o3bobobobo3b2o6bo13b2ob2o$11bo11bobo3bobo11bo$11b
obo8bob2o3b2obo6b4obo$12b2o8bo9bo5bobo2bo$3b2o21b3o6bo2b2o$3bo4bo25bo
b2obo7b2o$5bobobo24b2o6b2o4bo7b2o$4b3o2bo6bo12bo4b2o2bo2bo2bo3bobo5b2o
$b2o6bobo3b3o10b3o4bo2bo2b3obo3b2o25bo$bob4o3b3ob5o8b5o3bo2bo2bo2bo29b
3o$7bo4b3o3b2o6b2o3b2o7bob2o29bo$5b2o5b3o3b3o4b3o3b3o5b2o14bo17b2o$2b
2obo7b2o3b2o6b2o3b3o4bo16b2o$bo2bo2bo2bo3b5o8b5ob3o3b4obo9bobo25b2o$o
b3o2bo2bo4b3o10b3o3bobo6b2o37bobo$bo2bo2bo2b2o4bo12bo6bo2b3o17b2o23bo
$2b2o6b2o24bobobo18bo24bob2o$6bob2obo25bo4bo17b3o18b2obobo$6b2o2bo6b3o
21b2o19bo18b2obobo$2bo2bobo5bo9bo10bo40b2o7bob2o$bob4o6bob2o3b2obo9b2o
30b2o7bo2bo3b4o2bo$2bo11bobo3bobo10b3o28bobo8b2o4bo3b2o$3bo6b2o3bobob
obo3b2o8b2o27bo18b2o$3o3bo2bobo5bobo5bobo7b2o19bo6b2o19bo$o2b2obo2bo7b
obo7bo28b3o23bo$bo4b4o7bobo7b2o30bo22b2o$2b4o9bobobobo36b2o$4bo2bo6bo
bobobobo$6b2o6bobobobobo26b2o$2b4o9bobobobo26bobo$bo4b4o7bobo7b2o19bo
$o2b2obo2bo7bobo7bo17b2obo$3ob2o3bob2o2bobobobo2b2obo6b3o9bobob2o$3bo
bo4bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo9bo9bobob2o$2bo2b2o9b2ob2o14bo9b2obo7b2o$bo3b2o5b3o
bobobob3o20bo2b4o3bo2bo7b2o$2b2o13b3o26b2o3bo4b2o8bobo$6b2ob2o7bo22b2o
5b2o18bo$6bo4bo17bo7bo4bo5bo19b2o$2b2o3bo2bo17b2o6bobobo9bo$bo2bo5bo16b
2o7bo2b3o7b2o$ob3o2b4o8bo5b3o6bobo6b2o$bo6b2o5b2obobo4b3o6b2o3b4obo$2b
2o10bo3bob2o3bob2o9bo3bo$3b4o8b2ob2o6b2ob2o8b4o$3bo3bo9b2obo3b2obo3bo
10b2o$bob4o3b2o6b3o4bobob2o5b2o6bo$b2o6bobo6b3o5bo8b4o2b3obo$4b3o2bo7b
2o16bo5bo2bo$5bobobo6b2o17bo2bo3b2o$3bo4bo7bo17bo4bo$3b2o22bo7b2ob2o$
12b2o12b3o13b2o$11bobo7b3obobobob3o5b2o3bo$11bo13b2ob2o9b2o2bo$10b2o7b
o3bo2bobo2bo3bo4bobo$18bob2o2bobobobo2b2obo3b2ob3o$18bo7bobo7bo2bob2o
2bo$17b2o7bobo7b4o4bo$24bobobobo9b4o39bo$24b2o3b2o7bo2bo42bo$38b2o42b
3o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by jeremydover »

With stator reductions being accepted by Catagolue, I've run my stator minimization code against all of the guntrues up to about 180, and then some sporadic periods thereafter. I've uploaded all of the following improvements, with the number of stator cells reduced:
guntrue_14 - 2 cells
guntrue_18 - 19 cells
guntrue_25 - 2 cells
guntrue_27 - 2 cells
guntrue_32 - 1 cell
guntrue_35 - 1 cell
guntrue_44 - 1 cell
guntrue_50 - 3 cells
guntrue_62 - 1 cell
guntrue_65 - 1 cell
guntrue_69 - 1 cell
guntrue_71 - 1 cell
guntrue_73 - 1 cell
guntrue_75 - 3 cells
guntrue_78 - 1 cell
guntrue_81 - 2 cells
guntrue_82 - 2 cells
guntrue_89 - 1 cell
guntrue_97 - 1 cell
guntrue_100 - 4 cells
guntrue_101 - 1 cell
guntrue_103 - 1 cell
guntrue_108 - 8 cells
guntrue_114 - 2 cells
guntrue_116 - 4 cells
guntrue_123 - 1 cell
guntrue_125 - 2 cells
guntrue_128 - 1 cell
guntrue_130 - 1 cell
guntrue_133 - 1 cell
guntrue_136 - 1 cell
guntrue_140 - 7 cells
guntrue_141 - 2 cells
guntrue_142 - 3 cells
guntrue_145 - 2 cells
guntrue_146 - 1 cell
guntrue_149 - 1 cell
guntrue_150 - 10 cells
guntrue_153 - 2 cells
guntrue_155 - 2 cells
guntrue_159 - 2 cells
guntrue_162 - 5 cells
guntrue_164 - 2 cells
guntrue_166 - 2 cells
guntrue_171 - 9 cells
guntrue_177 - 1 cell
guntrue_185 - 11 cells
guntrue_186 - 1 cell
guntrue_190 - 2 cells
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