Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: October 20th, 2025, 8:04 pm Now, is there a better weld for guntrue_1113

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x = 61, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
24b2o$23bobo$17b2o4bo$15bo2bo2b2ob4o$15b2obobobobo2bo$18bobobobo$18bo
bob2o$19bo2$32b2o$23b2o7bo$23b2o5bobo$30b2o2$b2o$2bo$2bobo$3b2o2$20b2o
$7b2o12bo$6bo2bo8b3o27b2o$2b2o3bobo8bo29b2o5b2o$3bo4bo39b2o5b2o$2bo44b
3o$2b2o42bo2bo$4bo23bo16bo3bo5bo$2b3o21b3o12b4o9bobo$bo4bo18bo15b4obo
6b2ob2ob2o$o2b5obo2bo12b2o18bo7bo5b2o$b2o4bob4o40b2o$3b2ob2o$3bo4b3ob
3o35b2o$4b4o2bobo2bo33bo2bo$9bo3b2o35bobo$6b3o19b2o22b2o$6bo21b2o23bo
$49b2o$49b2o$13bo35b2o$12bobo22bo3b2o7bob2ob2o$12bobo21bobo3bo7b4obob
o$9b2obob2o19bobo3bo9bo5bo$9bo2bo18b2obobo3bo16b2o$11bob3o15b2obo2b4o
bo9b2o$10b2obob2o18bobo3bobo8bobo$11bo3bo15b2ob2obob2o2bo9b2o$11bobob
ob2o13bobo3bobobob2o$12b2obobobo12bobo6b2obo2bob2o$14bo2bob3o11bo11b3o
bobo$14bobo5bo26bobo3b2o$15bo5b2o24b3obobo2bo$46bo3bob4o$47bo2bo$44b4o
3b3o$43bo4b3o2bo$43b2o2bo2bo$47b2o$52b2o$52bobo$54bo$46bo7bob2o$46b3o
2b2obobo$47b2o2b2obobo$46bo7bob2o$35b2o10bo3b4o2bo$34bobo10bo3bo3b2o$
34bo18b2o$33b2o5bo13bo$39bo12bo$39b3o10b2o!
Yes. (I used JLS for this.) (4148) (Edit: oops, I posted it in the wrong orientation)

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x = 61, y = 68, rule = B3/S23
24b2o$23bobo$17b2o4bo$15bo2bo2b2ob4o$15b2obobobobo2bo$18bobobobo$18bob
ob2o$19bo2$32b2o$23b2o7bo$23b2o5bobo$30b2o2$b2o$2bo$2bobo$3b2o2$20b2o$
7b2o12bo$6bo2bo8b3o27b2o$2b2o3bobo8bo29b2o5b2o$3bo4bo39b2o5b2o$2bo44b
3o$2b2o42bo2bo$4bo23bo16bo3bo5bo$2b3o21b3o12b4o9bobo$bo4bo18bo15b4obo
6b2ob2ob2o$o2b5obo2bo12b2o18bo7bo5b2o$b2o4bob4o40b2o$3b2ob2o$3bo4b3ob
3o35b2o$4b4o2bobo2bo33bo2bo$9bo3b2o35bobo$6b3o19b2o22b2o$6bo21b2o23bo$
49b2o$49b2o$13bo35b2o$12bobo22bo3b2o7bob2ob2o$12bobo21bobo3bo7b4obobo$
9b2obob2o19bobo3bo9bo5bo$9bo2bo18b2obobo3bo16b2o$11bob3o15b2obo2b4obo
9b2o$10b2obob2o18bobo3b2o9bobo$11bo3bo15b2ob2obobo3b2o8b2o$11bobobob2o
13bobo3bob3o2bo$12b2obobobo12bobo4bo2bobo2bob2o$14bo2bob3o11bo3bobo4b
4obobo$14bobo5bo14b2o4bo5bobo3b2o$15bo5b2o18b3o2b4obobo2bo$40bo5bo3bob
4o$40b2o5b2obo$48bobob2o$48bobobobo$49bobo2bo$51bobo$51bob2o$41b2o5b2o
bobo$41b2o5b2obobo$51bob2o$32b2o14b4o2bo$31bobo14bo3b2o$31bo18b2o$30b
2o19bo$49bo$49b2o!
Edit 2: Smaller, and in the canonical orientation (4026):

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x = 66, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
28b2o$28b2o$43bo$41b3o$22b2o16bo9b2o$22b2o16b2o8bobo$26b2o17b2o5bo$26b
2o16bobo4b2ob2o$31bo12b2o6bobobo2b2o$29b2ob2o15b3o2bob4obo$32b2o14bo3b
2o7bo$21b2o5bo3bobo13b4o2b7ob2o$21b2o28bobo6bobo2bo$29bo18b2obo2bo2b2o
bo3b2o$30b3o16bo2b2o3b2ob2o$31b2o14bobo$26b2o19b2o$45b2o10b2o$26bobo
11b2o2bo2b2o8b2ob2o$27b2o11bobo2bo3bo6b2obo$43b2ob2obo$44bobo2bobo$36b
o4bo2bo2bo2b2o$37b2obobob3o$36b2o3bobo21bo$42bo2b2o16bobo$43b2ob3o15b
2o$9bo39bo$9b3o31b2ob3o$12bo30b2obo13b2o$11b2o47bo$35b2o24b3o$26b2o7b
2o26bo$3b2o22bo$3bo23bobo$2obo24b2o$o2b3o4b2o$b2o3bo3b2o$3b4o43b2o$3bo
15b2o28bobo$4b3o12bobo27bo$7bo13bo26b2o$2b5o14b2o24bo$2bo43b4o$4bo39b
2o4bo$3b2o28bo8bobob3o2bo$32bobo5b3o6b2o$32bobo4bo4b2ob2o$29b2ob2o6b4o
4bo$30bo13b4o$30bob2o8bo2bo$21b2o6b2obobo7b2o$20bo2bo8bo2bo$20bobo5b2o
bobobo$21bo6bo2bobob2o$27bobo3bo$16b2o8b2obobobo$17bo4b2obobobob2o$14b
3o5bob2obo2bo$14bo13bobo$29bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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guntrue_783 in 3192 cells, down from 3216 cells, with yet another couple overly complex welds that could likely be reduced.

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x = 57, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
34bo$28b2o4b3o$25b2o2bo2b2o3bo$24bob2obobo2b3o$23bo4bobobobo$24b3o3bo
bo$26b2o2bo2bo$31b2o$26b2o$26b2o3$28b2o10bo8bo$28b2o5b2o3b2o6bobo$35b
2o12bo$36bo2bo$35b2ob2o$34b2o2bo$35b3o2$39b2o$36bo3bo$35bo$35bo3bo$11b
o24b3o2b3o8bo$11b3o26bo3bo5b3o$14bo29bo4bo$13b2o24bo3bo5b2o$39b2o$4b2o
$3bobo36b3o$3bo37bo2b2o$2obo23b2o11b2ob2o$bobob2o20bo12bo2bo$bobob2o8b
obo6b2obo2bo12b2o$2obo7b2ob3o8bobobobo6b2o3b2o5b2o$o2b4o3bo2bo2bo4b2o
2bo2bobo8bo10b2o$b2o3bo4b2o8bobob2obo$3b2o18bo2bobo$3bo19b2o3b3o21b2o
$5bo21bo3bob2o17b2o$4b2o21b2o2b2obo12b2o$46bo2bo2b2o$36b2o9bobo3b3o$36b
obo3bo2bobobobo4bo$38bo3b4o2bobob2obo$30bo7bob2o4b2o2bo2b2o$30b3o2b2o
bo2bob2o5b2o$31b2o2b2obo2bobo$30bo7bob2obo$19b2o10bo3b4o2bob2o$18bobo
10bo3bo3b2o$18bo18b2o$17b2o5bo13bo$23bo12bo$23b3o10b2o!
EDIT: Here is a better reduction to guntrue_783 (3168 cells)

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x = 46, y = 66, rule = B3/S23
17b2o5b2o$16bo2bobobo2bo$16b2obobo3b2o$17bobo$17bob4o10b2o$15b3o15b2o
8b2o$16b2o25b2o$15bobo11bo$12b3obo11bobo$27bo2bo$28b2o2$13bo$12bobo$13b
o19bobob2o$31b3obob2o$30b5o$15b2o12b2o$9b2o4b2o13b2o$9b2o12bo7bo12b2o
$23b2o13b2o4b2o$24b2o12b2o$20b5o$16b2obob3o$16b2obobo19bo$40bobo$41bo
2$25b2o$24bo2bo$24bobo$25bo5b2o$10b2o19b2o$10b2o8b2o$20b2o$10b4o$10bo
3bo14b2ob3o$13b2o14bo7b2o$30b3obo2bo$4b2o26bobo4bo$3bobo27bo2b4o$3bo29b
o$2obo30b4o$bobob2o25bobo2bo$bobob2o8bobo14b2o$2obo7b2ob3o$o2b4o3bo2b
o2bo4b2o$b2o3bo4b2o8bobo$3b2o18bo6bo$3bo19b2o3b3o$5bo21bo$4b2o21b2o2$
36b2o$36bobo$38bo$30bo7bob2o$30b3o2b2obobo$31b2o2b2obobo$30bo7bob2o$19b
2o10bo3b4o2bo$18bobo10bo3bo3b2o$18bo18b2o$17b2o5bo13bo$23bo12bo$23b3o
10b2o!
EDIT 2: I think Catagolue is stuck on something again, these reductions and new syntheses haven't updated

Anyways, guntrue_957 reduced using smaller p87 glider gun (5166 cells)

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x = 82, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
80bo$79bobo$80bo3$74b2o4bo$74b2o3bobo$70bobo3bo3b2o$70bobobobo$67bobo
4b2o$65b3obo2bo$63bo3bo$63b3o2bo$63bo4bo$44bo19b4o6b2o$43bobo18b2o6b4o
$43bo2bo24bo4bo$39b2ob2ob2o9b2o13bo2b3o$24b2o13b2obo2bo11bo14bo3bo$25b
o9b2o7bo2bo9bobo7bo2bob3o$13bo11bobo7b2o8b3o10b2o4b2o4bobo$12bobo11b2o
14b3o18bobobobo$13bo22bo4bo3bo17bo3bobo$35b3o3bob2obo17b2o8b2o4bo$35b
ob2o3bo3bo17b2o8bobo2bobo$38b2o4b2ob2o26bo4bo$35bob2o6bobo$35b3o7bobo
$36bo9bo9bo8bo$55bo7b2o8b3o$55b3o4bobob2o5bo2b2o$62bo3bo4bo3b2o$61b2o
bobo7b2obo$2bo9bo50b3o4b2ob2o$bobo7b3o46bob2o9bo$bobo6b2obo46bo9b2obo
$2ob2o4b2o48b2ob2o4b3o$2bo3bo3b2obo33bobo6bob2o7bobob2o$2bob2obo3b3o33b
2o8b2o3bo4bo3bo$3bo3bo4bo6bobo4bo8bo12bo7b2o2bo5b2obobo$4b3o13b2o4b3o
5bobo16bo4b3o8b2o$b3o8b2o6bo8bo5bo17b2o13bo$bo2bo7b2o14b2o20bo2b2o$3b
o2bob2o38b3ob2o$2b2ob2ob2o45bo$2bo2bo33bo12bo8b2o$3bobo12b2o19bobo12b
obo4bo$4bo14bo19b2o9bo2b2ob3o3b3o$19bobo27bob3o5bo4bo$20b2o22b2o3b2ob
2ob3obo$44bobo10bob2o$46bo2b4obobo4bo$46b4o2bo3bob3o$32bo21bobobo$30b
2o16b2o3b2ob2o$31b2o15b2o$21b2ob2o$19bo2bobobo$19b2obo2bo$20bobo$19bo
2b2o18bo$19bobo2bobo16bo$18b2ob2o2b2o14b3o!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: October 21st, 2025, 1:38 pm Anyways, guntrue_957 reduced using smaller p87 glider gun (5166 cells)

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x = 82, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
80bo$79bobo$80bo3$74b2o4bo$74b2o3bobo$70bobo3bo3b2o$70bobobobo$67bobo
4b2o$65b3obo2bo$63bo3bo$63b3o2bo$63bo4bo$44bo19b4o6b2o$43bobo18b2o6b4o
$43bo2bo24bo4bo$39b2ob2ob2o9b2o13bo2b3o$24b2o13b2obo2bo11bo14bo3bo$25b
o9b2o7bo2bo9bobo7bo2bob3o$13bo11bobo7b2o8b3o10b2o4b2o4bobo$12bobo11b2o
14b3o18bobobobo$13bo22bo4bo3bo17bo3bobo$35b3o3bob2obo17b2o8b2o4bo$35b
ob2o3bo3bo17b2o8bobo2bobo$38b2o4b2ob2o26bo4bo$35bob2o6bobo$35b3o7bobo
$36bo9bo9bo8bo$55bo7b2o8b3o$55b3o4bobob2o5bo2b2o$62bo3bo4bo3b2o$61b2o
bobo7b2obo$2bo9bo50b3o4b2ob2o$bobo7b3o46bob2o9bo$bobo6b2obo46bo9b2obo
$2ob2o4b2o48b2ob2o4b3o$2bo3bo3b2obo33bobo6bob2o7bobob2o$2bob2obo3b3o33b
2o8b2o3bo4bo3bo$3bo3bo4bo6bobo4bo8bo12bo7b2o2bo5b2obobo$4b3o13b2o4b3o
5bobo16bo4b3o8b2o$b3o8b2o6bo8bo5bo17b2o13bo$bo2bo7b2o14b2o20bo2b2o$3b
o2bob2o38b3ob2o$2b2ob2ob2o45bo$2bo2bo33bo12bo8b2o$3bobo12b2o19bobo12b
obo4bo$4bo14bo19b2o9bo2b2ob3o3b3o$19bobo27bob3o5bo4bo$20b2o22b2o3b2ob
2ob3obo$44bobo10bob2o$46bo2b4obobo4bo$46b4o2bo3bob3o$32bo21bobobo$30b
2o16b2o3b2ob2o$31b2o15b2o$21b2ob2o$19bo2bobobo$19b2obo2bo$20bobo$19bo
2b2o18bo$19bobo2bobo16bo$18b2ob2o2b2o14b3o!
I replaced the eater5 with an eater1 variant (that I never thought I'd use), and added tighter weld courtesy of LLS. This resulted in two fewer rows and one less column.

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x = 81, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
79bo$78bobo$79bo$69b3o$69b3o$69bo3bo5bo$68b2obobo4bobo$68b3o2b2o4b2o$
68b2o$68bo2$66b3o$64bobobob3o$44bo19bo5b3o$43bobo18bo5b2o$43bo2bo19b2o
5bo$39b2ob2ob2o18b3o5bo$24b2o13b2obo2bo9b2o8b3obobobo$25bo9b2o7bo2bo8b
o12b3o$13bo11bobo7b2o8b3o8bobo$12bobo11b2o14b3o12b2o10bo$13bo27bo3bo
22b2o$29bo5b2o4bob2obo16b2o2b3o$35bobo4bo3bo17bobob2o3b2o4bo$37bo6b2ob
2o15bo3bo4bobo2bobo$35bobo7bobo18b3o5bo4bo$35b2o8bobo9bo8b3o$46bo9bo$
56b3o2$63b3o2bobob2o$68b5ob2o$2bo65b2ob2obobo$bobo8b2o45bob2o5b2ob2o3b
o$bobo7bobo42b2o4b2o4b5o3bo$2ob2o6bo36bobo4bo3b5o4b2o4b2o$2bo3bo4bobo
34b2o5bo3b2ob2o5b2obo$2bob2obo4b2o4bobo28bo5bobob2ob2o$3bo3bo11b2o5bo
8bo20b2ob5o$4b3o12bo6b3o5bobo21b2obobo2b3o$b3o8b2o15bo5bo16b2o$bo2bo7b
2o14b2o21bo$3bo2bob2o39b2o$2b2ob2ob2o30bo7b5o$2bo2bo34bobo5bob3o$3bobo
34b2o12bo5b2o$4bo48bobo4bo$49b2obo2bo5b3o$44b2o4bo4b2o6bo$17b2o25bobob
o3b3obob2o$17b2o27bob4ob2o5bo$33bo12bo5bo5b2obob2o$31b2o14bob4ob3ob2ob
2obo$32b2o12b2obo2bobo$50bobobob3o$24b2o25bo2bobo3bo$21bo2bo29bobo3bob
o$20bobobo30bo5b2o$21bo2bob2o13bo$24bo2bo14bo$25b2o13b3o!
I went through the gun collection roughly from 300 to 400 looking for guns that looked easy to reduce and the following 12 reductions resulted.

Two similar guns, gun_332 and gun_498 (2520 and 3168 both down to 2494:

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x = 166, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
46bo107bo$3b2o39b3o64b2o39b3o$3bobo37bo67bobo37bo$5bo18b2o17b2o4b2o62b
o18b2o17b2o4b2o$5b2o18bo23bobo5bo55b2o18bo23bobo5bo$24bo25bo4b3o74bo
25bo4b3o$3b4o17b2o28bo56b4o17b2o28bo$3bo2bo47b2o55bo2bo47b2o$4bo107bo$
b3o105b3o$bo10bo96bo10bo$12bo3bo7bo95bo3bo7bo$11bo4b2o4b2obobo91bo4b2o
4b2obobo$2o9b2o3bo5b2o3bo23b2o55b2o9b2o3bo5b2o3bo$obob2o6b4o34bo2bo54b
obob2o6b4o$2bob2o10bo6bo26bo2bo56bob2o10bo6bo$bo12bobo6bobo25b2o56bo
12bobo6bobo27b2o$b2ob2o8bobo92b2ob2o8bobo36bo$2bobo105bobo49b3o$2bobo
105bobo51bo$3bo107bo3$29bo107bo$28bobo2b2o101bobo2b2o$28bobo3bo101bobo
3bo$16bobo8b2ob4o90bobo8b2ob4o$16bobo105bobo$6b2o8bo10b2ob4o80b2o8bo
10b2ob4o$6b2o9b4o6b2obo2bo80b2o9b4o6b2obo2bo$16bo3b2o102bo3b2o$15b2o4b
o101b2o4bo$16bo3bo36bo66bo3bo36bo$20bo10bo23bobo70bo10bo23bobo$29b3o
24b2o79b3o24b2o$28bo107bo$26bo2bo104bo2bo$26b4o104b4o2$26b2o106b2o$27b
o107bo$27bobo105bobo$28b2o106b2o!
Old forms:

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x = 168, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
137b2o$133b2o2bo2b2o$133bo4b2ob3o$125b2o3b2obo10bo$125bo4bobo5b2ob3o$
126b3obo7b2obo$128bob2o20b2o$152b2o4$139bo$138b4o$138bob3o$140bo3bo5b
2o$141b2obo5b2o$142bo6bo$140b2o5bob2o$140b2o5bo3bo$149b3obo$150b4o$
152bo$3b2o50b3o$3bobo51bo$5bo18b2o17b2o11bo70bob2o$5b2o18bo17bo2bo80b
2obo$24bo135b2obo$3b4o17b2o21bo88b2o12bob2o7bob3o$3bo2bo37bo2bo88b2o
10b3ob2o5bobo4bo$4bo41bo100bo10bobo2b3o$b3o40b2o11b2o89b3ob2o3bo2bob2o
$bo54bobo91bobo5b2obo$56bo93bobo8bo$27b2o25b3o83bo10bo6b3o$2o13bo11b2o
24bo3b2o82b2o14bo$obob2o10bo36b4o2bo81b2o14b2o$2bob2o6b2o3bo38bob2o81b
o$bo10b2obobo35b2obo$b2ob2o8b2ob2o35bobo91b2o$2bobo47bobob2o90bobo$2bo
bo47b2o96bo$3bo9b2o21b2o98bobo5b3o3bo12b2o$13bobobobo15bobo99bo5bo2b2o
bo11bo2bo$13bobobobo15bo112bo11bob2o$18b2o9bo4b2o95b2o8bo4bo14bo2b3o$
28bobo99bobo8bobo2bo15b2o3bo$28bobo99bo11bo2b2o18b2o$14b2ob2o8b2ob3o
96b2o31b2obo$15bobob2o12bo128bo2bo$6b2o7bo3b2o6b2ob3o130b2o$6b2o8bo10b
2obo104b2o$17bo118bo22b2o$133b3o23bo$132bo27b3o$31bo101b3o26bo$29b3o
103b3o$28bo109bo$26bo2bo107b2o$26b4o$128b2o$26b2o99bobo$27bo99bo$27bob
o94b2obo7bo$28b2o95bobob2o2b3o$125bobob2o2b2o$124b2obo7bo$124bo2b4o3bo
10b2o$125b2o3bo3bo10bobo$127b2o18bo$127bo13bo5b2o$129bo12bo$128b2o10b
3o!
gun_369 (123 * 3) reduced via another period-multiplying hershel track (reduced from a glider loop) (3000 -> 2907).

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x = 57, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
8bo5b2o$4b2obobo2bo3bo$4b2obobo2bo2b2o$7bobo2bo42bo$2b6ob3o11b2ob2o25b
3o$bo2bo5b2o12bob2o24bo$b2o3bobo15bo27b2o$6bo16b2o10b2o$28bo7bo$4bo21b
3o7bobo$4b3o18bo11b2o$7bo17b2o$6bo7bo$6b4o4bo34b2o$2b2o5bo39b2o$2bo2bo
bo$4b2ob2o8b3o2$20b2o26b2o$16bo4bo26b2o$21bo$17bo2bo$7b2o9bo$6bobo$6bo
28bo3b2o$5b2o23b2o2bobo3bo$30bo3b2o3bo$28bobo7bo$18bo9b2o4b5obo5b2o$
16bo2bo14bo4bobo5bo8bo$15bo20bo2bobo2b3o7bobo$15bo4bo14b2o3bo3bo10b2o$
15b2o2$17b3o8b2ob2o$b2o26bobo2bo$b2o24bo5b2o$22bo4b4o$bo20bo7bo$4o6b2o
17bo$3bo7bo18b3o$2ob2o3b3o21bo$4b2o2bo$o3bobobo3b2o16bo$4bob2o4bo15bob
o3b2o$obobo5bobo12b2o5bo2bo$o3b7ob2o11b3ob6o$b2o21bo2bobo$3b2o2b2o11b
2o2bo2bobob2o$3bobo2bo11bo3bo2bobob2o$6b2o13b2o5bo!
gun_303 reduced with a syringe p3 eater (-1 row).

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x = 72, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
2b2o27bo11b2o$3bo26bobo10b2o$3bobo16bo3b2o2bobo$4b2o15bobo2bo2b2ob2o$
2o19bobo3bobo$bo20bob4o2bob2o$bobo20bo3bobob2o$2b2o14bo4bo3bobo$16b3o
3bo3bobo$15bo6b2o3bo$15b2o3$35b2o$35b2o$12bo37b2o$13bo35bo2bo$11b3o36b
2obo$53bo$53b2o$38b2o$39bo$36b3o$25b2o3b2o4bo30b2o$5b2o18b2o3b2o27b2o
6bo$4bobo4b2o46b2o4bobo$4bo6b2o27b2o3b2o18b2o$3b2o30bo4b2o3b2o$33b3o$
32bo$32b2o$17b2o$18bo$18bob2o36b3o$19bo2bo35bo$20b2o37bo$14b2o19b2o$
14bobo18b2o$16b3o$15bo3bo$14bob4o35b2o$14b2obo38bo$18b2o23bo3b2o4b3o$
42bobo3bo4bo14b2o$19b3o16b2obobo3bo20bobo$20b2o16b2obo4bo23bo$19bo2bo
19b5obo21b2o$19bo2bo2b2o7b2obob2obo4bobo17bo$17bobo2bo3bo7bob2obo2bob
2o2bo19bo$17b2o5b2o15b2obob2o18b3o!
gun_355, gun_361, and gun_401 reduced with the new odd-period pi to g (-3 columns each) (it should reduce many more guns):

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x = 189, y = 143, rule = B3/S23
26b2o11bo99b2o11bo$26b2o10bobo98b2o10bobo$38bobo2b2o3bo102bobo2b2o3bo$
37b2ob2o2bo2bobo100b2ob2o2bo2bobo$41bobo3bobo104bobo3bobo$37b2obo2b4ob
o101b2obo2b4obo$37b2obobo3bo103b2obobo3bo$41bobo3bo15b2o89bobo3bo15b2o
$42bobo3bo14bo91bobo3bo14bo$43bo3b2o12bobo92bo3b2o12bobo$57b2o2b2o107b
2o2b2o$57b2o111b2o2$11bo2b2o18b2o39bo71b2o39bo$8bo2b4obo17b2o37b3o71b
2o37b3o$8b3o5bo2b2o45b2o4bo59b2o45b2o4bo$11b4obobo2bo45b2o3b2o57bo2bo
45b2o3b2o$8b3o3b2obob2o46b2o61bob2o46b2o$8bo2bo5bobo48b2o60bo50b2o$9bo
2bo4bobo48b2o59b2o50b2o$6b5o7bo54bobo68b2o40bobo$5bo8b2o14b2o43bo68bo
43bo$5b2ob4o2b2o15bo36bo6bo46b2o21b3o33bo6bo$6bobo2bo18bo3bo10b2o21bo
2bo2bo48bo23bo10b2o21bo2bo2bo$6bo2bo16b2o3b4o3bob2o2bobo74bo35bobo$7b
2o16bo2bo9b2obo2bo76b5o14b2o15bo$14bo10b2obo4b2o6bob2o24b2o55bo13bo15b
2o24b2o$13bobo12b2o3b2o3b2obo27b2o52b3o12bobo41b2o$12bo2bo9b2o11bobob
2obo76bo15b2o$13b2o9bo2b3o10bobob2o76b4o$24bobo2bo10b2o78b2o3bo3b2o$
25bobo29b2o60bo2b3o4b2o39b2o$9b2o15bo30b2o60b2obo47b2o$8bobo111bo$8bo
35bobo75b2o22bo10bobo$7b2o35b2o100b3o8b2o$45bo103bo8bo$35b2o93b2o16b2o
$34bo2bo93bo$35b2o91b3o$128bo2$24b2o$23bobo7bo6b2o$23bo8bobo5b2o116b2o
$22b2o4b2obobo117b2o5bobo$27bobobobobo115b2o7bo$27bo4bobobo123b2o$28b
3obobobo$30b2o3bo111bo$146bobob2o$146bobobobo$143b2obobobobo2bo$143bo
2bo2b2ob4o$145b2o4bo$151bobo$152b2o25$25b2o11bo$25b2o10bobo$37bobo2b2o
3bo$36b2ob2o2bo2bobo$40bobo3bobo$36b2obo2b4obo$36b2obobo3bo$40bobo3bo
15b2o$41bobo3bo14bo$42bo3b2o12bobo$56b2o2b2o$56b2o2$33b2o39bo$33b2o37b
3o$18b2o45b2o4bo$17bo2bo45b2o3b2o$16bob2o46b2o$16bo50b2o$15b2o50b2o$
30b2o40bobo$30bo43bo$31b3o33bo6bo$33bo10b2o21bo2bo2bo$43bobo$43bo$42b
2o24b2o$3b2o63b2o$4bo$2bo$2b5o14b2o$7bo13bo34b2o$4b3o12bobo34b2o$3bo
15b2o$3b4o36bobo$b2o3bo3b2o31b2o$o2b3o4b2o32bo$2obo$3bo$3b2o22bo$27b3o
$30bo$11b2o16b2o$12bo$9b3o$9bo4$39b2o$32b2o5bobo$32b2o7bo$41b2o2$28bo$
27bobob2o$27bobobobo$24b2obobobobo2bo$24bo2bo2b2ob4o$26b2o4bo$32bobo$
33b2o!
gun_199, gun_366, gun_374, gun_382, and gun_398 reduced by one row each via a smaller h to g I found used in gun_358 (guns in rle not in order):

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x = 455, y = 73, rule = B3/S23
6$22b2o$22b2o9b2o84b2o$33b2o84b2o9b2o$17b2o111b2o8bo$17b2o26bo68b2o24b
3o$34b2obo7b3o66b2o27bo71b2o17bo$48bo93bobo70b2o9b2o6b3o$32b2obo3bo7b
obo92bobo81b2o9bo$32b3ob4o7bobo93bo66b2o24bobo69b2o96b2o$38bo9bo161b2o
24bobo69b2o9b2o7bo77b2o9b2o$237bo81b2o7b3o86b2o$303b2o26bo69b2o$10b2o
33bo257b2o25bobo68b2o26bo$9bobo34bo60b2o49b2o170bobo96b3o$9bo34b3o16b
2o41bobo49b2o171bo100bo$8b2o53b2o41bo145b2o177bobo$105b2o145b2o177bob
o$203b2o227bo$7b2ob2o2b2o122b2o62bobo$6bobobo2bobo27b2o59b2ob2o2b2o24b
obo62bo143b2o$6bobo2b2o16b2o11bobo58bobobo2bobo24bo63b2o29b2o62b2o48b
2o46b2o$7bobobo17bo12bo60bobo2b2o16b2o8b2o7b2o84bobo61bobo95bobo$8bo2b
o2bo15b3o8b2o7b2o52bobobo17bo18b2o84bo63bo97bo53b2o$9b3obobo16bo17b2o
53bo2bo2bo15b3o70b2ob2o2b2o21b2o7b2o53b2o96b2o53b2o$12bobo91b3obobo16b
o23b2obo42bobobo2bobo30b2o85b2o$9b2o2bo44b2obo47bobo41b2ob3o40bobo2b2o
16b2o101bobo$7b3ob2o45b2ob3o42b2o2bo48bo40bobobo17bo24b2obo42b2ob2o2b
2o23bo65b2ob2o2b2o$6bo57bo39b3ob2o43b2ob3o42bo2bo2bo15b3o21b2ob3o39bo
bobo2bobo22b2o7b2o55bobobo2bobo27b2o$7b3ob2o45b2ob3o39bo48bo2b2o45b3o
bobo16bo27bo38bobo2b2o16b2o16b2o55bobo2b2o16b2o11bobo$9bob2o44bo2b2o42b
3ob2o41bobo51bobo39b2ob3o40bobobo17bo75bobobo17bo12bo$56bobo47bob2o23b
o16bobob2obo44b2o2bo39bo2b2o43bo2bo2bo15b3o22b2obo47bo2bo2bo15b3o8b2o
7b2o$19b2o17bo16bobob2obo70b3o15bo2bob2o42b3ob2o39bobo47b3obobo16bo22b
2ob3o46b3obobo16bo17b2o$19b2o7b2o8b3o15bo2bob2o53b2o18bo17bo44bo27bo16b
obob2obo46bobo46bo48bobo$28bo12bo17bo56b2o7b2o8b2o16b2o45b3ob2o21b3o15b
o2bob2o43b2o2bo41b2ob3o46b2o2bo44b2obo$26bobo11b2o16b2o65bo24bobo2b2o
45bob2o24bo17bo44b3ob2o41bo2b2o46b3ob2o45b2ob3o$26b2o27bobo2b2o61bobo
24b2o2bo2bo71b2o16b2o43bo46bobo48bo57bo$55b2o2bo2bo60b2o30b2o55b2o30b
obo2b2o42b3ob2o22bo16bobob2obo45b3ob2o45b2ob3o$60b2o150b2o7b2o21b2o2b
o2bo43bob2o22b3o15bo2bob2o47bob2o44bo2b2o$221bo27b2o73bo17bo97bobo$6b
2o111b3o34b2o61bobo83b2o16b2o16b2o60b2o17bo16bobob2obo$6b2o16b3o34b2o
40b2o14bo36bo62b2o84b2o7b2o22bobo2b2o58b2o7b2o8b3o15bo2bob2o$24bo36bo
41b2o15bo33bobo56b3o34b2o62bo23b2o2bo2bo66bo12bo17bo$25bo33bobo92b2o57b
o36bo61bobo28b2o65bobo11b2o16b2o$59b2o153bo33bobo61b2o96b2o27bobo2b2o
$128b2o69b2o47b2o189b2o2bo2bo$22bo10b2o92bo71b2o106b3o34b2o98b2o$21bo
bo8bo86bo8bobo5b2o84b2o83bo36bo$21bobo9bobo5b2o75bobo8bo6b2o83bo70b2o
14bo33bobo45b2o$22bo11bo6b2o75bobo15bo85bobo5b2o60b2o48b2o46b2o16b3o34b
2o$23b3o15bo77bo13b2o88bo6b2o176bo36bo$25bo12b2o80b3o9bo2bo79bo14bo85b
2o91bo33bobo$37bo2bo81bo9bobo79bobo10b2o86bo127b2o$37bobo93bo25bo54bo
bo9bo2bo86bobo5b2o$38bo25bo75b2o15bobo55bo10bobo79bo8bo6b2o80bo10b2o$
45b2o15bobo75b2o16b2o56b3o8bo25bo53bobo14bo80bobo8bo$45b2o16b2o153bo15b
2o15bobo53bobo11b2o82bobo9bobo5b2o$234b2o16b2o54bo11bo2bo82bo11bo6b2o
$309b3o8bobo84b3o15bo$311bo9bo25bo61bo12b2o$328b2o15bobo73bo2bo$328b2o
16b2o73bobo$422bo25bo$429b2o15bobo$429b2o16b2o!
Two guns I submitted a while ago, one column off of gun_351 by using a different sparker (it looks like I forgot to re-orient the gun when I submitted it):

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x = 58, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
6bo7b2o10bob2o4b2obo$6b3o5b2o10b2o2bo2bo2b2o$o8bo14b2o3bo4bo3b2o$3o5b
2o13bo3b2ob4ob2o3bo$3bo20b3obobo2bobob3o$2b2o22bobobo2bobobo$29bo4bo$
17b2o11b4o$16b3o$15b2o2bobo$19b2obo$14b3ob4ob2o$17b3o5bo$4b2o10bo$4b2o
8bobo2b2o2bobo8b2o$23bo10b2o$14bo5b3o$15b2ob4ob3o20bo$17bob2o23b3o$18b
obo2b2o18bo$3b2o4b2o10b3o19b2o$3bobo3b2o10b2o$5bo46b2o$5b2o45bobo$3b2o
3bo45bo$2bo2bob2ob2o18b2o14bo7bob2o$3b2o5b2o18bo15b3o2b2obobo$5b2obo5b
o9b2o5b3o13b2o2b2obobo$5bo2bob5o9b2o7bo12bo7bob2o$6bobobo22bob2o10bo3b
4o2bo$7bo4bo18b2obobo10bo3bo3b2o$11b2o18bo2bo18b2o$33b2o5bo13bo$39bo
12bo$39b3o10b2o!
gun_354 reduced with a smaller sparker for the quinti-snark:

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x = 60, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
5bo2bo3b2o$5b6o2bo3b2o28bo3b2o$3b2o6b2o4bo28bobobob3o$2bo3b4o3b3obo28b
obobo4bo$bob2o6b2o3bo30bobobobobo$bobo8bobo34bobob2o$2o2b8o2b2o21b2o9b
obo$bobo2b4o2bobo22b2o10bo$bobo8bobo$2bo10bo27bobo$40bo3bo13b2o$7b2o
32bob5o10b2o$6bo2bo6b2o2bo23b2o2bo$7b2o7bo3b3o8b2obo11b2o$14bobo6bo7bo
b2o$14b2o6b2o$26bo$26b2o18bo$26b2o8bo9bo$20b2o5b2o6bobo$19bo3b5o7bo2bo
$20b8o5b5o$21b5o6bob2o$31b2o$24b2o3b2obob2o14b2o$6bo17bo2b6ob2o3b2obo
7bo$5bobo9b2o5bo2b3o3bo5bob2o8b3o$5bobo9bobo5bo2b5o20bo$6bo10bo12bo$
10b2o$10bobo$12bo2b2o$12bobobo7bo10b2o$11b2obo8bobo9b2o$14bo4b2obobo$
14b2o2bobobobobo$6bo11bo4bobobo$7bo11b3obobobo$5b3o13b2o3bo!
EDIT: Added catagolue links and corrected a few mistakes.
Last edited by ElijahKen on October 23rd, 2025, 10:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

guntrue_592 reduced with replacements for bad Chucklebaits too (3330 -> 3105)

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x = 69, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
58bo$56b3o$30bo24bo$28b3o16b2o6b2o$27bo3b2o14bobo$26bob2o3bo14bo$23bo
2bobob4o$23b3o27b2o$26b4obob3o17b2o5b2o$25bo2bob2obo2bo17bo5b2o$25b2o
8b2o18b2o$8bo45bobo$7bobo31bob2o11bo$5b3obo29b3ob2o$4bo4bob2o25bo$4bo
bobobobo25b2o18b2o$5b2obobo47bobo4b2o$9bobo48bo4b2o$10bobo47b2o3b2o$10b
o2bo20b3o29bo$14bo18bo3bo27bobo$2o7bo5bo16bo5bo25b2obo$2o6bo3bo3bo14b
o3bo3bo$8bo2bobo2bo14bo2bobo2bo$8bo3bo3bo14bo3bo3bo25b2o$9bo5bo16bo5b
o26b2o$10bo3bo18bo$11b3o20bo2bo7b2o$35bobo7bobo$36bobo8bo9bo$37bobob2o
4b2o7b2o$8b2o25bobobobobo7b2o2bo$9bo25b2obo4bo7b2o2b2o4bo6bo$6b3o29bo
b3o17bobo3bobo$6bo31bobo20bo5b2o$39bo$11b2o8b2o32b3o$11bo2bob2obo2bo31b
o$12b3obob4o32bo3bo$22b3o29bo2bobo$14b4obobo2bo31bobo2bo$14bo3b2obo35b
o3bo$15b2o3bo40bo$17b3o38b3o$17bo!
EDIT:
ElijahKen wrote: October 23rd, 2025, 7:57 pm Gun_354 reduced with a smaller sparker for the quinti-snark:
Flipping the p59 on guntrue_354 helps reduce the Bounding Box a bit (2691 -> 2478)

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x = 56, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
45b2o$45b2o2$5bo2bo3b2o$5b6o2bo3b2o33b2o$3b2o6b2o4bo33bo2bo$2bo3b4o3b
3obo11b2o20b2obo$bob2o6b2o3bo13bo23b2o$bobo8bobo15bobo18b2o2bo$2o2b8o
2b2o15b2o17bo2b2o$bobo2b4o2bobo34bob2o$bobo8bobo29bo5bo2b2o$2bo10bo29b
obo6bo2bo$38b2o3bobo7b2o$7b2o35b2o$6bo2bo6b2o2bo23b3o$7b2o7bo3b3o22bo
bo$14bobo6bo$14b2o6b2o21bobo$26bo19bo$26b2o$26b2o8bo12b2o$20b2o5b2o6b
obo11b2o$19bo3b5o7bo2bo$20b8o5b5o$21b5o6bob2o6b2o$31b2o9bo$24b2o3b2ob
ob2o8bo$6bo17bo2b6ob2o3b2o2b2o$5bobo9b2o5bo2b3o3bo5bo2bo$5bobo9bobo5b
o2b5o8b2o$6bo10bo12bo$10b2o$10bobo$12bo2b2o$12bobobo7bo10b2o$11b2obo8b
obo9b2o$14bo4b2obobo$14b2o2bobobobobo$6bo11bo4bobobo$7bo11b3obobobo$5b
3o13b2o3bo!
Also, could you link the catagolue gun pages that you reduced?

EDIT: Population of guntrue_355 reduced

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x = 71, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
21b2o11bo$21b2o10bobo$33bobo2b2o3bo$32b2ob2o2bo2bobo$36bobo3bobo$32b2o
bo2b4obo$32b2obobo3bo$36bobo3bo15b2o$37bobo3bo14bo$38bo3b2o12bobo$52b
2o2b2o$52b2o2$6bo2b2o18b2o39bo$3bo2b4obo17b2o37b3o$3b3o5bo2b2o45b2o4b
o$6b4obobo2bo45b2o3b2o$3b3o3b2obob2o46b2o$3bo2bo5bobo48b2o$4bo2bo4bob
o48b2o$b5o7bo54bobo$o8b2o14b2o43bo$2ob4o2b2o15bo36bo6bo$bobo2bo18bo3b
o10b2o21bo2bo2bo$bo2bo16b2o3b4o5b2o2bobo$2b2o16bo2bo12bo2bo$9bo10b2ob
o4b2o6bob2o24b2o$8bobo12b2o3b2o3b2obo27b2o$7bo2bo9b2o11bobob2obo$8b2o
9bo2b3o10bobob2o$19bobo2bo10b2o$20bobo29b2o$4b2o15bo30b2o$3bobo$3bo35b
obo$2b2o35b2o$40bo$30b2o$29bo2bo$30b2o3$19b2o$18bobo7bo6b2o$18bo8bobo
5b2o$17b2o4b2obobo$22bobobobobo$22bo4bobobo$23b3obobobo$25b2o3bo!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by ElijahKen »

WhiteHawk wrote: October 23rd, 2025, 8:55 pm Also, could you link the catagolue gun pages that you reduced?
I edited my last post to do that. Thanks.
WhiteHawk wrote: October 23rd, 2025, 8:55 pm EDIT: Population of guntrue_355 reduced

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x = 71, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
21b2o11bo$21b2o10bobo$33bobo2b2o3bo$32b2ob2o2bo2bobo$36bobo3bobo$32b2o
bo2b4obo$32b2obobo3bo$36bobo3bo15b2o$37bobo3bo14bo$38bo3b2o12bobo$52b
2o2b2o$52b2o2$6bo2b2o18b2o39bo$3bo2b4obo17b2o37b3o$3b3o5bo2b2o45b2o4b
o$6b4obobo2bo45b2o3b2o$3b3o3b2obob2o46b2o$3bo2bo5bobo48b2o$4bo2bo4bob
o48b2o$b5o7bo54bobo$o8b2o14b2o43bo$2ob4o2b2o15bo36bo6bo$bobo2bo18bo3b
o10b2o21bo2bo2bo$bo2bo16b2o3b4o5b2o2bobo$2b2o16bo2bo12bo2bo$9bo10b2ob
o4b2o6bob2o24b2o$8bobo12b2o3b2o3b2obo27b2o$7bo2bo9b2o11bobob2obo$8b2o
9bo2b3o10bobob2o$19bobo2bo10b2o$20bobo29b2o$4b2o15bo30b2o$3bobo$3bo35b
obo$2b2o35b2o$40bo$30b2o$29bo2bo$30b2o3$19b2o$18bobo7bo6b2o$18bo8bobo
5b2o$17b2o4b2obobo$22bobobobobo$22bo4bobobo$23b3obobobo$25b2o3bo!
BB and population reduced (-1 column):

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x = 70, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
20b2o11bo$20b2o10bobo$32bobo2b2o3bo$31b2ob2o2bo2bobo$35bobo3bobo$31b2o
bo2b4obo$31b2obobo3bo$35bobo3bo15b2o$36bobo3bo14bo$37bo3b2o12bobo$51b
2o2b2o$51b2o$5bo$4bobob2o18b2o39bo$4bo2b2obo17b2o37b3o$3b2o5bo2b2o45b
2o4bo$2o3b4obobo2bo45b2o3b2o$ob3o3b2obob2o46b2o$2bo2bo5bobo48b2o$o2bo
2bo4bobo48b2o$5o7bo54bobo$8b2o14b2o43bo$2b4o2b2o15bo36bo6bo$2bo2bo16b
3o14b2o21bo2bo2bo$3bo17bo12b2o2bobo$3o16bo2bo12bo2bo$o7bo10b2obo4b2o6b
ob2o24b2o$7bobo12b2o3b2o3b2obo27b2o$6bo2bo9b2o11bobob2obo$7b2o9bo2b3o
10bobob2o$18bobo2bo10b2o$19bobo29b2o$3b2o15bo30b2o$2bobo$2bo35bobo$b2o
35b2o$39bo$29b2o$28bo2bo$29b2o3$18b2o$17bobo7bo6b2o$17bo8bobo5b2o$16b
2o4b2obobo$21bobobobobo$21bo4bobobo$22b3obobobo$24b2o3bo!
I confirmed minimal stator for the p5 sparker on the left (which is where the reduction came from).
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Are these all of the known substantially small p3 eaters? Asking here for gun-related purposes.

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x = 40, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
2b2o5b2o$2bobobobo2bo19bo5b2o$4bobo3b2o15b2obobobobo2bo$4bo22b2obobob
o3b2o$5b3o22bobo$25b6ob4o$3b4o17bo6bo$2bo21b2o3b3o$bobo3bo21bo$bobo2b
obo$2bo3bobo$7bo2$30b2o5b2o$29bo2bobobo2bo$29b2obobo3b2o$30bobo$30bob
4o$3b2o5b2o16b3o$3bobobobo2bo16b2o$5bobo3b2o15bobo$5bo19b3obo$6b3o2$4b
2o2$2o2bo$obobo$bo3bo$2b3o$obo$2o!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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You know, you can save a row without p3. Extremely cursed example:

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x = 18, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$6b2obo2bo$2b2obobobob2o$bobobobobo$bobobobobo$2obobobob2o$4b2ob
o2bo4b3o$8b2o5bo$16bo!
Better example:

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x = 12, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$2obo2bo$2obob2o$3bo$2obo$bob2o$bo2bo4b3o$2b2o5bo$10bo!
rabbit provided this on discord:

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x = 11, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$4bo2bo$bo2bob2o$obobo$bo2bo3b3o$4b2o2bo$9bo!
These are probably known.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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LuveelVoom wrote: October 24th, 2025, 12:46 am rabbit provided this on discord:

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x = 11, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$4bo2bo$bo2bob2o$obobo$bo2bo3b3o$4b2o2bo$9bo!
These are probably known.
This is known. Example: bounding box optimized R49

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x = 18, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$3b2o5bo2bo$b3obo4b2obo2bo$o4bo7bobobo$b3obob2o4bo2bo$3bobo2bo3b
2o$6b2o2$5bo$5b3o$5b3o8b2o$4bo3bo6bobo$4b4o7bo$4bob2o8bo$15b2o$8b2o$8b
2o16$7b3o$7bo$6b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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LuveelVoom wrote: October 24th, 2025, 12:46 am You know, you can save a row without p3.
Those all have worse clearance than most of the eaters I just showed. The purpose of the eaters I am asking about is not to eat gliders, but to reduce eaters reacting to non-glider reactions. Side-by-side comparisons of the eaters and what I determined was the minimum safe distance for reactions near the eaters

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x = 67, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
49.F$49.F$49.F$2.2A5.2A20.A5.2A10.F9.2A$2.A.A.A.A2.A15.2A.A.A.A.A2.A9.
F5.2A.A2.A$4.A.A3.2A15.2A.A.A.A3.2A9.F5.2A.A.2A$4.A25.A.A16.F8.A$5.3A
2.2D2B11.6A.4A13.F5.2A.A$10.2D2B10.A6.A6.2D2B7.F6.A.2A2.2B$3.4A3.2D2B
10.2A3.3A5.3D2B7.F6.A2.A2.2B3A$2.A7.2D2B15.A6.4D2B7.F7.2A3.2BA$.A.A3.
A3.D2B21.5D2B7.F11.D2B.A$.A.A2.A.A2.D2B10.2D7.7D2B7.F5.D4.2D2B$2.A3.A
.A2.D2B10.16D2B7.F5.7D2B$7.A3.D2B35.F$10.2D2B35.F$49.F$49.F$49.F$49.F
$49.F$3.2A5.2A18.2A5.2A10.F9.2A$3.A.A.A.A2.A16.A2.A.A.A2.A9.F8.A2.A$5.
A.A3.2A16.2A.A.A3.2A9.F5.A2.A.2A$5.A24.A.A16.F4.A.A.A$6.3A21.A.4A13.F
5.A2.A$11.2D2B13.3A7.2D2B7.F8.2A2.B3A$4.2A4.3D2B14.2A6.3D2B7.F12.BA$9.
4D2B13.A.A5.4D2B7.F4.3D4.DB.A$2A2.A3.5D2B10.3A.A3.7D2B7.F4.8DB$A.A.A3.
5D2B17.8D2B7.F$.A3.A2.5D2B8.D7.9D2B7.F$2.3A3.5D2B8.2D5.10D2B7.F$A.A4.
6D2B8.17D2B7.F$2A4.7D2B34.F$4.9D2B34.F$3.10D2B34.F$13D2B34.F$49.F!
Here is an example of where the p3 eater works, but the stable eater fails

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x = 191, y = 103, rule = B3/S23
9b2o5b2o151b2o$8bo2bobobo2bo146b2obo2bo$8b2obobo3b2o146b2obob2o$9bobo
156bo$9bob4o10b2o138b2obo9b2o$7b3o15b2o8b2o129bob2o8b2o8b2o$8b2o25b2o
129bo2bo18b2o$7bobo11bo145b2o5bo$4b3obo11bobo150bobo$19bo2bo149bo2bo$
20b2o151b2o2$5bo152bo$4bobo150bobo$5bo19bobob2o127bo19bobob2o$23b3obo
b2o145b3obob2o$22b5o148b5o$7b2o12b2o137b2o12b2o$b2o4b2o13b2o130b2o4b2o
13b2o$b2o12bo7bo12b2o116b2o12bo7bo12b2o$15b2o13b2o4b2o130b2o13b2o4b2o
$16b2o12b2o137b2o12b2o$12b5o148b5o$8b2obob3o145b2obob3o$8b2obobo19bo127b
2obobo19bo$32bobo150bobo$33bo152bo2$17b2o151b2o$16bo2bo149bo2bo$16bob
o150bobo$17bo5b2o145bo5b2o$2b2o19b2o130b2o19b2o$2b2o8b2o141b2o8b2o$12b
2o151b2o2$21b2ob3o147b2ob3o$21bo7b2o143bo7b2o$22b3obo2bo145b3obo2bo$24b
obo4bo145bobo4bo$25bo2b4o146bo2b4o$25bo152bo$26b4o149b4o$24bobo2bo147b
obo2bo$24b2o151b2o14$9bo5b2o151b2o$5b2obobobobo2bo149bo2bo$5b2obobobo
3b2o146bo2bob2o$8bobo152bobobo$3b6ob4o10b2o138bo2bo9b2o$2bo6bo14b2o8b
2o131b2o8b2o8b2o$2b2o3b3o24b2o151b2o$7bo12bo152bo$19bobo150bobo$18bo2b
o149bo2bo$19b2o151b2o2$4bo152bo$3bobo150bobo$4bo19bobob2o127bo19bobob
2o$22b3obob2o145b3obob2o$21b5o148b5o$6b2o12b2o137b2o12b2o$2o4b2o13b2o
130b2o4b2o13b2o$2o12bo7bo12b2o116b2o12bo7bo12b2o$14b2o13b2o4b2o130b2o
13b2o4b2o$15b2o12b2o137b2o12b2o$11b5o148b5o$7b2obob3o145b2obob3o$7b2o
bobo19bo127b2obobo19bo$31bobo150bobo$32bo152bo2$16b2o151b2o$15bo2bo149b
o2bo$15bobo150bobo$16bo5b2o145bo5b2o$b2o19b2o130b2o19b2o$b2o8b2o141b2o
8b2o$11b2o151b2o2$20b2ob3o147b2ob3o$20bo7b2o143bo7b2o$21b3obo2bo145b3o
bo2bo$23bobo4bo145bobo4bo$24bo2b4o146bo2b4o$24bo152bo$25b4o149b4o$23b
obo2bo147bobo2bo$23b2o151b2o!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: October 24th, 2025, 12:38 am Are these all of the known substantially small p3 eaters? Asking here for gun-related purposes.

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x = 40, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
2b2o5b2o$2bobobobo2bo19bo5b2o$4bobo3b2o15b2obobobobo2bo$4bo22b2obobob
o3b2o$5b3o22bobo$25b6ob4o$3b4o17bo6bo$2bo21b2o3b3o$bobo3bo21bo$bobo2b
obo$2bo3bobo$7bo2$30b2o5b2o$29bo2bobobo2bo$29b2obobo3b2o$30bobo$30bob
4o$3b2o5b2o16b3o$3bobobobo2bo16b2o$5bobo3b2o15bobo$5bo19b3obo$6b3o2$4b
2o2$2o2bo$obobo$bo3bo$2b3o$obo$2o!
Those are all that I am aware of. I believe that the top right one is the edgiest one that exists.
Edit:
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: August 18th, 2025, 8:27 pm
ElijahKen wrote: August 18th, 2025, 5:58 pm Edit2: Here is the p3 eater on its own (A fishhook eater would stick out one more column to the left):

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x = 10, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
3bo2bo$3b4o$b2o6bo$obob6o$3obo$2bobob2o$5obobo$bo3bo2bo$b2o5b2o$bob2o$
3o3$o2bo$b2o2$3b3o$3bo$4bo!
This particular p3 eater was already in my sparker stamp collection in this form:

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x = 16, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
bo2bo3bob2o$o3b5obobo$o3bobob5o$bo3bo2bo4b2o$5bo2b5o2bo$7bo4bobo$8b2o
3bo$9bo$9bobo$10b2o!
This is another useful p3 eater. It replaces a different orientation of eater than the typical ones.

Also gun_1067 in 11368:

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x = 116, y = 98, rule = B3/S23
28b2o2bo$27bob4o$27bo$25b2ob7o$23bo2bobo6bo$23b2o3bob2o2b2o$27b2ob2o5$
39b2o$30b2o7bo$12bo17b2o5bobo$12b3o22b2o$15bo$14b2o$45bo$5b2o37bobo$4b
obo37bobo$4bo38b2ob3o$b2obo22b2o20bo$2bobob2o5b2o13bo14b2ob3o$2bobob2o
5b2o10b3o15b2obo$b2obo20bo$bo2b4o14b2obo$2b2o3bo14bobob2o$4b2o18bo2bo$
4bo19b2o$6bo$5b2o6$38b2o$34b2obobo$35bobo$35bo2bo$36bobo$37bo16b3o15b
2o6bo11b2o$54bo16bo2bo4bobo10b2o$55bo11b2o2b3obo3bobo$67bo6bobob2ob2o$
65bobo3b2o3bobo$52b2o11b2o4bob4o2bob2o$52b2o19bo3bobob2o$72bo3bobo$3b
2o66bo3bobo$4bo51bo14b2o3bo$2bo29b2o21bobo$2b5o14b2o8bobo22bo$7bo13bo
9bo18b2o24bobo$4b3o12bobo8b2o7b2o9bo21bobo9b2o$3bo15b2o18b2o10bo20bo
11b2o$3b4o43b2o20bobo3bo20b2o$b2o3bo3b2o35b2o26b2obo19bo2bo$o2b3o4b2o
35b2ob2o3b2o34b3o5b2obo$2obo46bo4b2o34bo10bo$3bo43b2o3bo39bo9b2o$3b2o
41bo2b4o34b2o$45bobobo38bo$27bo18bo2bob2o2b2o28b3o$11b2o14b3o19bobo3b
2o16b2o10bo$12bo17bo17b2o2bo16bo3bobo35b2o$9b3o17b2o14bobo2bobo14bobo
5bo35bo$9bo35b2o2bobo16b2o5b2o36bo$50bo42b2o14b5o$94bo13bo$94bobo12b3o
$51bob2obob2o35b2o15bo$49b3obob2obobobo46b4o$48bo9bob2obo40b2o3bo3b2o$
48b2o4b4obo3bo40b2o4b3o2bo$19bo34bo2bobo3b2o25bo21bob2o$19b3o36bo29b3o
21bo$22bo64bo23b2o$21bo65b2o$21b2o$19b2o2bo79b2o$18bo2b3o67b2o10bo$19b
o23bo48b2o10b3o$20b4o6b2o3b2o5bobo46bo14bo$22bo7b2o3b2o6bo$24bo52b2o$
23b2o51bobo5b2o$76bo7b2o$75b2o2$89bo$85b2obobo$84bobobobo$81bo2bobobob
ob2o$81b4ob2o2bo2bo$85bo4b2o$83bobo$83b2o!
gun_1073:

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x = 122, y = 115, rule = B3/S23
86b2o$85bobo$79b2o4bo$77bo2bo2b2ob4o$77b2obobobobo2bo$80bobobobo$35bo
12bo31bobob2o$35b3o8b3o32bo$38bo6bo$37b2o6b2o47b2o$85b2o7bo$85b2o5bobo
$92b2o2$26b2o15bo$27bo13b5o$27bobo10b3ob2o$28b2o11bo2b2o60b2o$42b3o61b
2o$32bo10bo38b2o$31b3o49bo$30b2o2bo11b2o32b3o$30b2ob3o10bobo31bo$30b5o
13bo$32bo15b2o$25bo$25b3o$28bo$27b2o$37b2o53b2o$37bo53bobo$30b2o6b3o
50bo$40bo49b2o2$14bo$14b3o$17bo13b2o$16b2o12bo2bo67b2o$30bobo78b2o$30b
3o69b2o7bo$103bo8b3o$114bo$5b2o13bo21bo$6bo12b3o11b2o5bobo$6bobo3b2o4b
o2b2o10bo7b2o34b2o$7b2o9b3o13b3o40bobo$14bo3b3o15bo42bo4b2o$14bo4bo55b
4ob2o2bo2bo$13b3o3bo55bo2bobobobob2o$13b3o9b2o51bobobobo$11b2o2bo4b2o
3bobo8b2o41b2obobo$12b3o12bo8bo2bob2o7bo11bo20bo5b2o$13bo13b2o8b3obobo
7b2o7b3o25bobo$41bobo6b2o7bo9b2o17bo$37b5ob3o13b2o9bo7b2o7b2o$37bo4bo
3bo23bobo5b2o23b2o$40bobo2b2o24b2o30b2o$8b2o6b2o22b2o$9bo6bo93bob2o$6b
3o8b3o50bo39b2obo$bo4bo7bo4bo48b3o22b2o$b3o8b3o52bo25b2o$4bo6bo55b2o$
3b2o6b2o68b2o$81bo$82b3o13bo$84bo12bobo$53b2ob2o$22b2o27bo2bob2o$22bo
20b2o6b2o$8b3o9bobo21b2o18b2o45b2o$8bo11b2o21bo12bo2bo4b2o45bo$5bob2o
8bo38b4o49bobo$5b3o8b3o34bo55b2o3bo$6bo8b2obo12bo21b5o11bo35bo7bobob2o
$2b2o11bo13b3o25bo7b2obobo33bobo5bo2bobobo$bobo9b3o12bo26bo8bobobobo
33bobo4bo3bo3bo$bo26b2o25b2o4bo2bobobobob2o17b2obo10bo6b3ob3o$2o32b2o
25b4ob2o2bo2bo17bob2o19bobo$33bobo29bo4b2o42bobob3o$35bo27bobo49b2obo
2bo$22bo3bo36b2o55b2o$18bo3b2ob2o$11b2o10bobo88bo$12bo6b2o92bobo$9b3o
101bo2bo$9bo17b3o84b2o$26bo2bo$25bo3bo5bo81b2o$25b3o5b3o81bobo$32bo86b
o$32b2o64b2o13b2o4b2o$22b2o75bo5bo7bo$23bo72b3o4b3o3b2o3b3o$20b3o73bo
5bo6bobo5bo$20bo9bo71b2o3bobob6o$33bo9b2o62b2o$27bo5bo9bo69b2o$27b3obo
bo7bobo69b2o$28bo12b2o4$23b2o12bo$22bobo7bobob3o$22bo9bo5bo$21b2o9bo$
35bo$37bobo$37bobo$38b3o$32b2o6b2o$33bo6bo$30b3o8b3o$30bo12bo!
gun_1079:

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x = 104, y = 102, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o5$bo$b3o$4bo15b2o$3b2o14bobo$11b2o6bo$10b2obo4b2o43b2o$10bo
2bo48bobo$5b3ob2ob2o42b2o4bo$5bo2b2o2bo13bo27bo2bo2b2ob4o$5bo5bo12b3o
27b2obobobobo2bo$6b2o2bo12bo33bobobobo$2b2o4b2o7b2o4b2o32bobob2o$3bo
12bo2b2o37bo$3o12bo5bo$o13bo2b2o2bo49b2o$13b2ob2ob3o40b2o7bo4b2o$13bo
2bo45b2o5bobo4b2o$7b2o4bob2o52b2o$7bo6b2o$5bobo14b2o$3b4o15bo$2bo20b3o
$2b3o20bo$5bo$4b2o53b2o$60bo$57b3o$57bo4b2o$61bobo$61bo$60b2o$4bo$4b3o
22bo$7bo15bo3bobo31b2o$6b2o14bobo3b2o30bo2bo2b2o$14b2o6bobo36b2o2bobo$
13b2obo4b2ob2o37b2o16b2o$13bo2bo46bo17bo$8b3ob2ob2o43b2obo2bo15b3o$8bo
2b2o2bo13bo30bob2obobo16bo$8bo5bo12b3o34bobo$9b2o2bo12bo34b2o2bo$5b2o
4b2o7b2o4b2o31b3ob2o$6bo12bo2b2o7b2o25bo$3b3o12bo5bo5bobo26b3ob2o$3bo
13bo2b2o2bo5bo30bob2o$16b2ob2ob3o4b2o$16bo2bo51b2o$10b2o4bob2o51b2o7b
2o$10bo6b2o61bo$8bobo14b2o51bobo$8b2o15bo52b2o$26b3o$28bo2$58b2o$58b2o
2$18b2o$18b2o2$74bo$73bobo$73bo2bo$74bobo$72bobob2o20b2o$72b2o24bo$79b
2o19bo$77bo2bo18b2o$77b2obobo14bo3b2o$79bob2o14b4o2bo$79bo20bob2o$77b
3o10b2o5b2obobo$76bo13b2o5b2obobo$76b2o22bob2o$100bo$98bobo$98b2o2$62b
2ob2o22b2o$60bo2bob2o22bo$60b2o28b3o$73b2o17bo$65bo2bo4b2o$65b4o$62bo$
62b5o$66bo$64bo$64b2o7b2ob2o$69b2o2b2obo3b2o$69bo6bobo2bo$70b7ob2o$77b
o$72b4obo$72bo2b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

ElijahKen wrote: October 24th, 2025, 10:11 am
gun_1073:
Reduced the stator

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x = 122, y = 115, rule = B3/S23
86b2o$85bobo$79b2o4bo$77bo2bo2b2ob4o$77b2obobobobo2bo$80bobobobo$35bo
12bo31bobob2o$35b3o8b3o32bo$38bo6bo$37b2o6b2o47b2o$85b2o7bo$85b2o5bob
o$92b2o2$26b2o15bo$27bo13b5o$27bobo10b3ob2o$28b2o11bo2b2o60b2o$42b3o61b
2o$32bo10bo38b2o$31b3o49bo$30b2o2bo11b2o32b3o$30b2ob3o10bobo31bo$30b5o
13bo$32bo15b2o$25bo$25b3o$28bo$27b2o$37b2o53b2o$37bo53bobo$30b2o6b3o50b
o$40bo49b2o2$14bo$14b3o$17bo13b2o$16b2o12bo2bo67b2o$30bobo78b2o$30b3o
69b2o7bo$103bo8b3o$114bo$5b2o13bo21bo$6bo12b3o11b2o5bobo$6bobo3b2o4bo
2b2o10bo7b2o34b2o$7b2o9b3o13b3o40bobo$14bo3b3o15bo42bo4b2o$14bo4bo55b
4ob2o2bo2bo$13b3o3bo55bo2bobobobob2o$13b3o9b2o51bobobobo$11b2o2bo4b2o
3bobo8b2o41b2obobo$12b3o12bo8bo2bob2o7bo11bo20bo5b2o$13bo13b2o8b3obob
o7b2o7b3o25bobo$41bobo6b2o7bo9b2o17bo$37b5ob3o13b2o9bo7b2o7b2o$37bo4b
o3bo23bobo5b2o23b2o$40bobo2b2o24b2o30b2o$8b2o6b2o22b2o$9bo6bo93bob2o$
6b3o8b3o50bo39b2obo$bo4bo7bo4bo48b3o22b2o$b3o8b3o52bo25b2o$4bo6bo55b2o
$3b2o6b2o68b2o$81bo$82b3o13bo$84bo12bobo$53b2ob2o$22b2o27bo2bob2o$22b
o20b2o6b2o$8b3o9bobo21b2o18b2o45b2o$8bo11b2o21bo12bo2bo4b2o45bo$5bob2o
8bo38b4o49bobo$5b3o8b3o34bo55b2o$6bo8b2obo12bo21b5o11bo35bo7b2o$2b2o11b
o13b3o25bo7b2obobo33bobo6bobo2b2o$bobo9b3o12bo26bo8bobobobo33bobo8bo3b
o$bo26b2o25b2o4bo2bobobobob2o17b2obo10bo5b4ob3o$2o32b2o25b4ob2o2bo2bo
17bob2o16bo2bobo$33bobo29bo4b2o42bobob3o$35bo27bobo49b2obo2bo$22bo3bo
36b2o55b2o$18bo3b2ob2o$11b2o10bobo88bo$12bo6b2o92bobo$9b3o101bo2bo$9b
o17b3o84b2o$26bo2bo$25bo3bo5bo81b2o$25b3o5b3o81bobo$32bo86bo$32b2o64b
2o13b2o4b2o$22b2o75bo5bo7bo$23bo72b3o4b3o3b2o3b3o$20b3o73bo5bo6bobo5b
o$20bo9bo71b2o3bobob6o$33bo9b2o62b2o$27bo5bo9bo69b2o$27b3obobo7bobo69b
2o$28bo12b2o4$23b2o12bo$22bobo7bobob3o$22bo9bo5bo$21b2o9bo$35bo$37bob
o$37bobo$38b3o$32b2o6b2o$33bo6bo$30b3o8b3o$30bo12bo!
Also, minor nitpick, but i think it's better to use guntrue over gun for true-period guns since gun can include pseudo-period guns (e.g. gun_41 and gun_120 are different from guntrue_41 and guntrue_120)

EDIT: Is there a better way to compress guntrue_1184? Pulled in the blocker a bit using a simple weld

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x = 84, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
25bo$25b3o$28bo24bo$27b2o6b2o16b3o$34bobo14b2o3bo$35bo14bo3b2obo$50b4o
bobo2bo$58b3o$22b2o24b3obob4o$22b2o6b2o15bo2bob2obo2bo$30b2o15b2o8b2o
$75bo$39b2obo31bobo$39b2ob3o7b2o20bob3o$45bo5bo19b2obo4bo$24b2o18b2o25b
obobobobo$23bobo47bobob2o$23bo10b2o19bo16bobo$22b2o10bobo18b2o16bo$34b
o16bobob2o7b3o$51bo3b2o7bo2bo$12b2o36b2o10b2o3bo14b2o$11b3o36b3ob3o5b
o2bobo14b2o$10bob2o40b4o4b4o$9bobo40bobo2bo5b3ob3o$9bo2bo39bo3b2o10b2o
$10b2o40bo2bo7b2o3bo$4b2o10b2o19b2o14b3o7b2obobo$3bobo9bo2bo17bobo7bo
16b2o$3bo12b2o10bo7bo8bobo16bo$2obo20b2o2b2ob3ob2o4b2obobo$bobob2o17b
2o4b4obo4bobobobobo25b2o$bobob2o21b2o7bo2bo4bob2o19bo5bo$2obo7b2o23b2o
3b3obo20b2o7b3o$o2b4o3bo2bo7b2o20bobo31bo$b2o3bo4b2o8bobo20bo$3b2o18b
o37b2o8b2o$3bo19b2o36bo2bob2obo2bo$4bo57b4obob3o$3b2o54b3o$59bo2bobob
4o$62bob2o3bo$22bo40bo3b2o$23bo40b3o$21b3o42bo!
Also reduction of guntrue_296 if the BB glitch data ever gets expunged

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x = 62, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
58bo$56b3o$30bo24bo$28b3o16b2o6b2o$27bo3b2o14bobo$26bob2o3bo14bo$23bo
2bobob4o$23b3o27b2o$26b4obob3o17b2o5b2o$25bo2bob2obo2bo23b2o$25b2o8b2o
$8bo$7bobo31bob2o$5b3obo29b3ob2o$4bo4bob2o25bo$4bobobobobo25b2o18b2o$
5b2obobo38b2o7bobo$9bobo6bo29bobo9bo$10bo6bobo7bo22bo9b2o$16bo9bob3o$
18b2o6b2o2b2o$2o12b2o4b2o4b7o$2o11b3o2bo3bo2b2ob2o2b2o$13b3o2b2ob2o2b
2ob2o2b3o$14b2o2b2ob2o2bo3bo2b3o$15b7o4b2o4b2o27bo$16b2o2b2o6b2o29bob
o$17b3obo9bo13b2o13b2o$20bo7bobo6bo7bobo8b2o$29bo6bobo8bo8b3o$37bobob
2o4b2ob2o2bo2bobo$8b2o25bobobobobo4bob2o2b2o2b2o$9bo25b2obo4bo2bo7b2o
$6b3o29bob3o3b2o$6bo31bobo$39bo$11b2o8b2o$11bo2bob2obo2bo$12b3obob4o$
22b3o$14b4obobo2bo$14bo3b2obo$15b2o3bo$17b3o$17bo!
EDIT: Is there a way to compact guntrue_1015 to fit the small asymmetrical sparker?

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x = 79, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
38b2o11bo6b2o$38b2o10bobo4bo2bo$50bobo3bob3o2bo$49b2ob2obobo5b3o$53bo
bo3b2o5bo$49b2obo2b4obo4b2o$49b2obobo3bo$53bobo3bo$54bobo3bo$55bo3b2o
2$74b2o$55b2o17b2o$46b2o7bobo$46b2o7bo$31b2o33bo$30bo2bo31b3o9b2o$29b
ob2o28b2obobobo8b2o$29bo31b2obo3b2o$28b2o32bo2bob2o$43b2o15bob2ob2o$43b
o16b2ob4o$44b3o14b4o$46bo10b2o$56bobo$6b2o6b2o40bo$ob2obobo6bobob2obo
33b2o$2obobo10bobob2o54b2o$5b2o8b2o59b2o$4b2o10b2o2$7b2o4b2o$8b2o2b2o
$7b3o2b3o30b2o$3b2o2b3o2b3o2b2o26bo$3b2o2b2ob2ob2o2b2o24bobo$7b8o28b2o
10bo$37b4o14b3o$35b4ob2o16bo$35b2ob2obo15b2o$22b2o9b2obo2bo32b2o$22b2o
8b2o3bob2o31bo$10b2o21bobobob2o28b2obo$b2o6bo2bo6b2o13b3o31bo2bo$2bo7b
2o7bo15bo33b2o$2bobo12bobo26bo7b2o$3b2o12b2o25bobo7b2o$45b2o2$20bo$20b
3o18b2o3bo$23bo17bo3bobo$22b2o18bo3bobo$43bo3bobob2o$34b2o5bob4o2bob2o
$34bo5bobo3bobo$9bo25b3o2bobo2bo2b2ob2o$8bobo26bo3bo3b2o2bobo$8bobo38b
obo10b2o$9bo22b2o16bo11b2o$13b2o10b2o5bobo$13bobo9b2o7bo$15bo18b2o$15b
2o$21bo$20bobob2o$20bobobobo$17b2obobobobo2bo$17bo2bo2b2ob4o$11bo7b2o
4bo$12bo12bobo$10b3o13b2o!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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guntrue_190 reduction (3472 -> 2775) by filtering an existing p95 gun instead of using syringes:

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x = 75, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
17bo$17b3o$20bo38b2o$19b2o30b2o6b2o$45b2o5bo$45bobob3o7bo$10bo36bobo8b
3o$10b3o20b2o3b2o6bobo9b2o$13bo19bo4b2o6b3o7b2o2b2obo$12b2o17bobo12b2o
4b2ob3o3b2obo$31b2o13b2o4b2o2bobobo3bo$46bo11b2ob3o3b2o$46b3o10bobo5b
o$47b2o9bo2bo6bo$23b3o17bo5bo9b2o6b2o$22bo2bo17bo7bo12b2o$16b2o3bo20b
o5bo3bo9bo2b4o$22bo2bo22bo11b4o5bo$10b3o4bo5b3o10b3o5bo4b3o7bo4b2o2b2o
$13bo22bo2bo20b3obobo3b2o$9bo3bo5bo20bo3b2o16bobob2obo2bo$10bo7bo17bo
2bo24bo5b3o$12bo5bo17b3o24b2ob4o$13b2o54bob2o$13b3o49bo2bo2bobo$15bo50b
2o3bobo$3b2obob2o5b2o12b2o39b2ob2o$b3obobob3o16bobo17b2o$o11bo9b2o4bo
19bo$ob3obob4o4b2o4b2o3b2o20b3o$bo3b3o7b2o2bo31bo$3bobobob2obo5b2o$2b
2obobobob2o2b2o3b2o$3bobo2bo7b4o2bo18b2o$3bo2b2o11bob2o18bo29bo$2b2o15b
o22b3o27bo$18b2o24bo25b3o!
EDIT: Small reduction to guntrue_285 (2907 -> 2886) by filtering a p95 instead of a p57 (block is to mark the corner)

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x = 78, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
17bo58b2o$17b3o56b2o$20bo38b2o$19b2o30b2o6b2o$45b2o5bo$45bobob3o7bo$10b
o36bobo8b3o$10b3o20b2o3b2o6bobo9b2o$13bo19bo4b2o6b3o7b2o2b2obo$12b2o17b
obo12b2o4b2ob3o3b2obo$31b2o13b2o4b2o2bobobo3bo$46bo11b2ob3o$46b3o10bo
bo$47b2o9bo2bo6b4o$23b3o17bo5bo9b2o6b6o$22bo2bo17bo7bo14b8o$16b2o3bo20b
o5bo3bo12b2o6b2o$22bo2bo22bo17b8o$10b3o4bo5b3o10b3o5bo4b3o15b6o$13bo22b
o2bo28b4o$9bo3bo5bo20bo3b2o$10bo7bo17bo2bo$12bo5bo17b3o28bob2obo$13b2o
51b2ob2ob2o$13b3o51bob2obo$15bo$3b2obob2o5b2o12b2o$b3obobob3o16bobo17b
2o$o11bo9b2o4bo19bo$ob3obob4o4b2o4b2o3b2o20b3o$bo3b3o7b2o2bo31bo$3bob
obob2obo5b2o$2b2obobobob2o2b2o3b2o$3bobo2bo7b4o2bo18b2o$3bo2b2o11bob2o
18bo29bo$2b2o15bo22b3o27bo$18b2o24bo25b3o!
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Is there a p4 which could fit in the red area and spark a corner dot at either/both yellow square to reduce guntrue_44? Probably something that can absorb the spark would work the best (like the p3 bouncer)

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x = 39, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A3.2A3.A5.14D$9.A4.A4.3A3.14D$11.A3.A6.A4.12D$10.2A2.2A5.2A5.11D$8.
A2.A.A2.3B2.5B3.10D$8.2A3.A6B3.4B2.10D$12.A.6B2.5B3.9D$12.2A14B2.E8D$
7.AB4.B.14B2.E7D$5.BABA2B4.13B2A3.6D$2A3.B2A3B3.14B2AB3.5D$A2.2AB.25B
3.4D$.2A.AB2.9B3A2B3A8B3.3D$2.A4.9BA8BA8B3.2D$2.A.AB2.9B3A2B3A9B$3.2A
B.25B.B2A$5.B2A3B3.14B5.B2A$5.BABA2B4.13B7.B$7.AB4.B.14B4.A.3A$12.2A14B
5.2A3.A$12.A.6B2.5B9.2A$8.2A3.A6B.7B4.A.2A$8.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B5.2A.A$10.
2A2.2A5.7B$11.A3.A6.7B$9.A4.A6.B.7B$9.2A3.2A4.A7BABA$19.A.AB.2B2.B2A$
20.AB7.A!
EDIT: Dependent p44 loop, probably known

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x = 62, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
42bo3b2o3b2o$40b3o4bo4bo$39bo6bo3bo$39b2o5b2o2b2o$26bob2o18bobo2bo$26b
2obo18bo3b2o$24b2o23bo$23bo3b2o19b2o$24b3obo25bo$53bobo$26b2o26b2o4b2o
$26b2o29b2o2bo$37b3o2b3o12bob2o$36bo8bo13bo$37b3o2b3o12bobo$57b2o$32b
2o20b2o$32b2o19bobo$20bo8bo24bo$19bobo7b2o17b2o$9b2o3b2o4bo7bobo18bo$
9bo4bo33bo3b2o$11bo3bo32bobo2bo$10b2o2b2o30b2o2b2o$8bo2bobo32bo3bo$8b
2o3bo33bo4bo$12bo18bobo7bo4b2o3b2o$12b2o17b2o7bobo$7bo24bo8bo$6bobo19b
2o$6b2o20b2o$3b2o$2bobo12b3o2b3o$2bo13bo8bo$b2obo12b3o2b3o$o2b2o29b2o
$2o4b2o26b2o$6bobo$7bo25bob3o$12b2o19b2o3bo$12bo23b2o$8b2o3bo18bob2o$
8bo2bobo18b2obo$10b2o2b2o5b2o$11bo3bo6bo$9bo4bo4b3o$9b2o3b2o3bo!
Last edited by WhiteHawk on October 27th, 2025, 11:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: October 27th, 2025, 12:24 am Is there a p4 which could fit in the red area and spark a corner dot at either/both yellow square to reduce guntrue_44? Probably something that can absorb the spark would work the best (like the p3 bouncer)
I think something as simple as a corner dot or duoplet sparker is likely impossible in such a small area. Back when I was first working on JLS-to-LLS, I tried this and didn't find anything. However, that was early in my tests, so I'm not sure if I set up the search perfectly to cover more interesting catalytic possibilities. If there is a solution, I think only LLS will be capable of finding it.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: October 27th, 2025, 12:24 am Is there a p4 which could fit in the red area and spark a corner dot at either/both yellow square to reduce guntrue_44? Probably something that can absorb the spark would work the best (like the p3 bouncer)

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x = 39, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A3.2A3.A5.14D$9.A4.A4.3A3.14D$11.A3.A6.A4.12D$10.2A2.2A5.2A5.11D$8.
A2.A.A2.3B2.5B3.10D$8.2A3.A6B3.4B2.10D$12.A.6B2.5B3.9D$12.2A14B2.E8D$
7.AB4.B.14B2.E7D$5.BABA2B4.13B2A3.6D$2A3.B2A3B3.14B2AB3.5D$A2.2AB.25B
3.4D$.2A.AB2.9B3A2B3A8B3.3D$2.A4.9BA8BA8B3.2D$2.A.AB2.9B3A2B3A9B$3.2A
B.25B.B2A$5.B2A3B3.14B5.B2A$5.BABA2B4.13B7.B$7.AB4.B.14B4.A.3A$12.2A14B
5.2A3.A$12.A.6B2.5B9.2A$8.2A3.A6B.7B4.A.2A$8.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B5.2A.A$10.
2A2.2A5.7B$11.A3.A6.7B$9.A4.A6.B.7B$9.2A3.2A4.A7BABA$19.A.AB.2B2.B2A$
20.AB7.A!
You can complete the gun with a second engine and an additional block, but that will not be setting any records for population or bounding box:

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x = 65, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
44bo$43bobo$44bo4b2o3b2o$50bo4bo$49bo3bo$39b3o7b2o2b2o$29bob2o6bo2bo8b
obo2bo$29b2obo6bob2o8bo3b2o$27b2o9bob2o10bo$26bo3b2o6bobo10b2o$27b3obo
5bo3bo15bo$9b2o3b2o3bo18bo18bo$9bo4bo4b3o7b2o26bo$11bo3bo6bo6b2o29b2o$
10b2o2b2o5b2o10bob3obo8bob3obo5bobo$8bo2bobo19bo3bo2bo6bo2bo3bo7bo$8b
2o3bo19bob3obo8bob3obo5bob2o$12bo47b2o2bo$12b2o43bo5b2o$7bo30bo18bo$6b
obo23b2o3bo3bo15bo$2o4b2o24b2o4bo12b2o$o2b2o36bo10bo$b2obo12b3o2b3o26b
o3b2o$2bo13bo8bo25bobo2bo$2bobo12b3o2b3o17b2o5b2o2b2o$3b2o29b2o6bo6bo
3bo$6b2o26b2o7b3o4bo4bo$6bobo36bo3b2o3b2o$7bo25bob3o$12b2o19b2o3bo$12b
o23b2o$8b2o3bo18bob2o$8bo2bobo18b2obo$10b2o2b2o$11bo3bo$9bo4bo$9b2o3b
2o4bo7bobo$19bobo7b2o$20bo8bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by Jormungant »

WhiteHawk wrote: October 27th, 2025, 12:24 am Is there a p4 which could fit in the red area and spark a corner dot at either/both yellow square to reduce guntrue_44? Probably something that can absorb the spark would work the best (like the p3 bouncer)

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x = 39, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A3.2A3.A5.14D$9.A4.A4.3A3.14D$11.A3.A6.A4.12D$10.2A2.2A5.2A5.11D$8.
A2.A.A2.3B2.5B3.10D$8.2A3.A6B3.4B2.10D$12.A.6B2.5B3.9D$12.2A14B2.E8D$
7.AB4.B.14B2.E7D$5.BABA2B4.13B2A3.6D$2A3.B2A3B3.14B2AB3.5D$A2.2AB.25B
3.4D$.2A.AB2.9B3A2B3A8B3.3D$2.A4.9BA8BA8B3.2D$2.A.AB2.9B3A2B3A9B$3.2A
B.25B.B2A$5.B2A3B3.14B5.B2A$5.BABA2B4.13B7.B$7.AB4.B.14B4.A.3A$12.2A14B
5.2A3.A$12.A.6B2.5B9.2A$8.2A3.A6B.7B4.A.2A$8.A2.A.A2.3B2.6B5.2A.A$10.
2A2.2A5.7B$11.A3.A6.7B$9.A4.A6.B.7B$9.2A3.2A4.A7BABA$19.A.AB.2B2.B2A$
20.AB7.A!
Two barrels edition:

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x = 68, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
32.4B7.BA$33.4B2.2B.BA.A$34.10BA4.2A3.2A$35.5BAB.B6.A4.A$36.3B3AB6.A
3.A$37.2BAB2AB5.2A2.2A$29.A.2A5.5BA2.3B2.A.A2.A$29.2A.A4.4BABA.6BA3.
2A$27.2A9.3BAB2.6B.A$26.A3.2A5.14B2A$27.3A.A4.2BA11B.B4.2B$9.2A3.2A3.
A9.B7.BA11B4.2B3AB$9.A4.A4.3A7.2AB5.14B3.6B$11.A3.A6.A6.2AB.B2A2BA10B
A2B2A4B.B2A$10.2A2.2A5.2A8.2BA3B3A8B3A3BA2B2.BA.A$8.A2.A.A2.3B2.5B5.B
2A6BA6BA6B2A2B4.A$8.2A3.A6B3.4B5.BA3B3A8B3A3BA2B2.BA.2A$12.A.6B2.5B6.
B2A2BA10BA2B2A4B.B2A2.A$12.2A14B3.20B3.6B3.2A$7.2B4.B.14B.BD2B.15B4.
2B3AB$5.B3A2B4.15B.B2AB.14B.B4.2B$2A3.6B3.18B2A3.14B2A$A2.2AB.10B2A4B
2A7B6.5B2.6B.A$.2A.AB2.8BABA4BABA7B5.4B3.6BA3.2A$2.A4.9BA8BA8B5.5B2.
3B2.A.A2.A$2.A.AB2.8BABA4BABA8B8.2A5.2A2.2A$3.2AB.10B2A4B2A7B.B2A6.A
6.A3.A$5.6B3.14B5.B2A7.3A4.A4.A$5.B3A2B4.13B7.B9.A3.2A3.2A$7.2B4.B.
14B4.A.3A$12.2A14B5.2A3.A$12.A.6B2.5B9.2A$8.2A3.A6B.7B4.A.2A$8.A2.A.A
2.3B2.6B5.2A.A$10.2A2.2A5.7B$11.A3.A6.7B$9.A4.A6.B.7B$9.2A3.2A4.A9BA$
19.A.AB.2B2.3BA$20.AB7.3AB!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

guntrue_1827 reduced.

Is there a better way to compact this gun?

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x = 81, y = 74, rule = B3/S23
72b2o$72b2o$66b2o$61b2o3bobob6o$55bo5bo6bobo5bo$22bo32b3o4b3o3b2o3b3o
$20b3o4b2o29bo5bo7bo$19bo3b2o2bo2b2o25b2o13b2o4b2o$20b3o2bobob2obo45b
o$22bobobobo4bo42bobo$24bobo3b3o43b2o$23bo2bo2b2o$24b2o47b2o$29b2o41b
o2bo$29b2o41bobo$73bo$18b2o$7bo10b2o7b2o50b2o$6bobo8b2o8b2o45b2obo2bo
$7bo10b2o53bobob3o$12bobo35bob2o16bo2bobo$13bo4b3o29b2obo16b4ob3o$18b
2o54bo3bo$72bobo2b2o$72b2o$18b3o47b2o$17b4o47bobo$70bo$70b2o$4bo8bo6b
o$4b3o50bo$7bo36bo11bobo$6b2o5b4o25b3o11bobo$13b3o25bo15bo$41b2o2$14b
2o21bo$13b3o4bo17b2o12b2o$19bobo15b2o13b2o$14b2o10bo42b2obo$5b2o8b2o8b
obo41bob2o$5b2o7b2o10bo4b2o$14b2o14bobo5b2o22b2o$30bo7b2o22b2o$3b2o24b
2o$3b2o$8b2o$3b2o2bo2bo$b3o3bobo$o4bobobobo26b2ob2o$bob2obobo2b3o20b2o
2b2obo3b2o$2b2o2bo2b2o3bo19bo6bobo2bo$5b2o4b3o21b7ob2o$11bo30bo$37b4o
bo$37bo2b2o3$71b2o$55bob2o12bo$53b3ob2o4b3o3bobo$52bo16b2o$53b3ob2o$55b
obo$57bo$56b2ob2o$59bo$59bo$56b2ob2o$56bobo$58bo5b2o$58b2o4bo10bo$65b
3o8bo$67bo6b3o!
EDIT: A little better

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x = 77, y = 76, rule = B3/S23
44bo$43bobo$43bo2bo21b2o$39b2ob2ob2o21b2o$24b2o13b2obo2bo16b2o$25bo9b
2o7bo2bo9b2o3bobob6o$13bo11bobo7b2o8b3o3bo5bo6bobo5bo$12bobo11b2o14b3o
6b3o4b3o3b2o3b3o$13bo27bo3bo8bo5bo7bo$41bob2obo6b2o13b2o4b2o$42bo3bo27b
o$28b2o14b2ob2o23bobo$27bo2b2o13bobo24b2o$26bo7bo10bobo$26bo4b5o10bo22b
2o$14bo11bo8bo32bo2bo$13bobo4bo6bobo5b2o31bobo$12b2o5bobo6bo4bobo33bo
$13bo8bo11bo$2bo10b5o4bo52b2o$bobo10bo7bo47b2obo2bo$bobo13b2o2bo47bob
ob3o$2ob2o14b2o25bob2o16bo2bobo$2bo3bo39b2obo16b4ob3o$2bob2obo62bo3bo
$3bo3bo27bo32bobo2b2o$4b3o27bobo31b2o$b3o8b2o21bo28b2o$bo2bo7b2o50bob
o$3bo2bob2o56bo$2b2ob2ob2o56b2o$2bo2bo$3bobo47bo$4bo35bo11bobo$38b3o11b
obo$37bo15bo$37b2o2$33bo$34b2o12b2o$33b2o13b2o$65b2obo$65bob2o$27b2o$
26bobo5b2o22b2o$26bo7b2o22b2o$25b2o5$34b2ob2o$30b2o2b2obo3b2o$30bo6bo
bo2bo$31b7ob2o$38bo$33b4obo$33bo2b2o3$67b2o$51bob2o12bo$49b3ob2o4b3o3b
obo$48bo16b2o$49b3ob2o$51bobo$53bo$52b2ob2o$55bo$55bo$52b2ob2o$52bobo
$54bo5b2o$54b2o4bo10bo$61b3o8bo$63bo6b3o!
EDIT 2:
ElijahKen wrote: October 24th, 2025, 10:11 am
gun_1073:
Reduced

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x = 118, y = 104, rule = B3/S23
81b2o$80bobo$74b2o4bo$72bo2bo2b2ob4o$72b2obobobobo2bo$75bobobobo$30bo
12bo31bobob2o$30b3o8b3o32bo$33bo6bo$32b2o6b2o47b2o$80b2o7bo$38bo41b2o
5bobo$35b2ob2o47b2o$38bo$21b2o11bo3b2o$22bo9b2ob2ob2o$22bobo7bo4bo$23b
2o8bo67b2o$101b2o$77b2o$78bo$32bo8b2o32b3o$28bo4bo7bobo31bo26b3o$26b2o
b2ob2o9bo44b3o10bo3b2o4b2o$26b2o3bo11b2o43bo11bo5bo3bobo$20bo6bo61bo10b
o4bo4b3o2bobo$20b3o3b2ob2o72bo7bo5bo$23bo2b2o75bo9bo3bo$22b2o4bo73bo10b
o2bo$32b2o53b2o25bo$25bo2bo3bo53bobo11b2o$25bo7b3o50bo14bo$26bo2bo5bo
49b2o$27b3o$9bo$9b3o7bo4bo$12bo5bobo3bo$11b2o7bo$16bo6b3o80b2o$16bobo
3bo3bo7bo71bo$22bo2bo9bo71b3o$24bo8b3o73bo$2o15bo$bo13b5o8b2o$bobo10b
3ob2o8bo43b2o$2b2o11bo2b2o9b3o40bobo$16b3o12bo42bo4b2o$6bo10bo52b4ob2o
2bo2bo$5b3o62bo2bobobobob2o$4b2o2bo11b2o20bobo28bobobobo$4b2ob3o10bob
o8b2o10b2o29b2obobo$4b5o13bo8bo2bob2o5bo13bo20bo5b2o$6bo15b2o8b3obobo
16b3o25bobo$36bobo15bo9b2o17bo$32b5ob3o13b2o9bo7b2o7b2o$32bo4bo3bo23b
obo5b2o23b2o$35bobo2b2o24b2o30b2o$3b2o6b2o22b2o$4bo6bo41bo51bob2o$b3o
8b3o8bo27bobo11bo39b2obo$bo2b3o7bo6b3o28b2o9b3o22b2o$3bo2bo13bo41bo25b
2o$2b2o2bobo11b2o23b2o15b2o5b3o$7b2o35bobo24bo4b2o$46bo23bo5bo$13bo42b
o20b3o$12b2o41bobo21bo8b2o3b2o$11b2obo33b2ob2o3bo30bo2bo2b2o$12bo2bo14b
2o14bo2bob2o34bo2bo$13b3o14bo15b2o40b2o$7b2o5bo13bobo28b2o45b2o$6bobo
13bo5b2o7bo13bo2bo4b2o45bo$6bo14b3o12b2o6b2o5b4o49bobo$5b2o14bo2bo10b
2o7bo3bo55b2o$22bob2o7b3o6bobo3b5o11bo43b2o$23b2o8b3o6b2o8bo7b2obobo42b
obo2b2o$23bo8bo2b2o13bo8bobobobo44bo3bo$32b2o16b2o4bo2bobobobob2o17b2o
bo16b4ob3o$32b2o22b4ob2o2bo2bo17bob2o16bo2bobo$15b2o43bo4b2o42bobob3o
$16bo9b2o10bo12bo6bobo49b2obo2bo$13b3o9bobo9b2o10b3o6b2o55b2o$13bo11b
o22bo$24b2o10b3o9b2o59bo$108bobo$108bo2bo$41b2o66b2o$37b3ob2o$38b2o2b
o69b2o$58b2o52bobo$44bo13bo55bo$35b2o5bo2b2o2b2o5bobo34b2o13b2o4b2o$34b
obo5b2o2b2o2bo5b2o36bo5bo7bo$34bo13bo42b3o4b3o3b2o3b3o$33b2o56bo5bo6b
obo5bo$50bo2b2o42b2o3bobob6o$50b2ob3o46b2o$50b2o56b2o$108b2o$56b2o$43b
2o11bobo$44bo13bo$41b3o14b2o$41bo!
EDIT 3: now that Guntrues up to 1120 are filled on Catagolue, here are the missing periods up to 1150

guntrue_1121, guntrue_1127, guntrue_1133 guntrue_1139, guntrue_1141 and guntrue_1147

EDIT 4:
guntrue_1127, can it be reduced?

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x = 95, y = 81, rule = B3/S23
40b2o11bo$40b2o10bobo$52bobo2b2o3bo$51b2ob2o2bo2bobo2bo$55bobo3bobo2b
3o5b2o$51b2obo2b4obo6bo4b2o$51b2obobo3bo7b2o$55bobo3bo$48bo7bobo3bo$47b
o3bo5bo3b2o$46bo4bo$45bo2b3o$46bo2$93b2o$33b2o58bo$32bo2bo55bobo$31bo
b2o56b2o$31bo50bo$30b2o51b2o$45b2o35b2o3b2o$45bo40bo2bo$46b3o37bobo$48b
o10b2o26bo$58bobo$58bo$57b2o8bob2o20b2o$65b3ob2o20b2o$52b2o10bo18b3ob
o3bo$52bo12b3ob2o12b6o3bo$50bobo14bobo16bo6bo$50b2o10bo4bobo18b5o$62b
3o3bo$65bo22b5o$64b2o20bo6bo$29b2o48b2o2b6o3bo$29b2o48bo3b3obo3bo$76b
2obo11b2o$57b2o16bo2bo12b2o$56bo2bo16b2o$55b2o2bo$56b2o2bo$57b4o3$48b
2o3bo$48bo3bobo$49bo3bobo$50bo3bobob2o$41b2o5bob4o2bob2o$20b2o19bo5bo
bo3bobo$21bo8b2o10b3o2bobo2bo2b2ob2o$20bo8bo2bo4b2o5bo3bo3b2o2bobo$20b
2o7bo2bo4b2o17bo2bo9b2o$30b2o23b2o3bobo6b2o$4b2o53b2ob3o8bo$5bo59bo3b
5o$5bobo23b2o26b2ob4o2bo$6b2o23b2o26b2obo6b3o$65b4o2bo$65bo2bo$3b2o$3b
obo36b2o$5bo36b2o16bo$5b2o53bo9b2o$60bo9bobo$2b2o68bo$2bo69b2o$3b3o19b
2o$5bo19bo13b2o19b2o$3b2o15b2o4b3o10bo21bo$3bo17bo6bo11bo17b3o$2obo2b
2o5b2o6bob2o14b2o17bo$2obobobo4bo2bo3b3o2bo$3bobo6bobo3bo3b2o$3bobo7b
o4b4o$4bo4b2o10bo$10bo7b2obobo$7b3o9bo2b2o53bo$7bo9bobo58bo$17b2o57b3o
!
1141 is also a multiple of 7 if anyone wants to try it.

EDIT 5: Population reduction to guntrue_1121 (really wish Catagolue would accept these)

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x = 95, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
41bo11b2o$40bobo10b2o$32bo3b2o2bobo$28bo2bobo2bo2b2ob2o$19b2o5b3o2bob
o3bobo$19b2o4bo6bob4o2bob2o$25b2o7bo3bobob2o$33bo3bobo$32bo3bobo$32b2o
3bo3$40b2o$36b2o2b3o2b2o$2o33b2o4bobo2bo$bo34bob2obo3bo14b2o$bob2o2bo
29b2o3bo16bo2bo$2bo5bo51b2obo$63bo$9bo53b2o$4b2o42b2o$49bo$6b3o37b3o$
13bo20b2o10bo$14bo19bobo$12b3o21bo$3bo20b2obo8b2o$2bobo19b2ob3o$3bob3o
2b2o18bo10b2o$2b2ob2o3b2o12b2ob3o12bo$bo2bo20bobo14bobo$2b4o19bobo4bo
10b2o$26bo3b3o$2b4o23bo$bo2bo24b2o$2b2ob2o3b2o2b2o48b2o$3bob3o2b2o3bo
30b3o15b2o$2bobo10bob2o24b2obobo$3bo12bo2bo23bo2bobo$17b2o22b3o$32b2o
7b2o$32b2o8bo4$41bo3b2o$40bobo3bo$39bobo3bo$35b2obobo3bo$35b2obo2b4ob
o5b2o$39bobo3bobo5bo19b2o$35b2ob2o2bo2bobo2b3o10b2o8bo$36bobo2b2o3bo3b
o5b2o4bo2bo8bo$24b2o10bobo17b2o4bo2bo7b2o$19b2o3b2o11bo25b2o$19bobo67b
2o$21bo67bo$21b2o8bo30b2o23bobo$23bo6bobo29b2o23b2o$21b3o5bobo$20bo8b
2o$20b2o68b2o$51b2o36bobo$51b2o36bo$88b2o2$28b2o61b2o$28b2o62bo$68b2o
19b3o$54b2o13bo19bo$55bo10b3o4b2o15b2o$54bo11bo6bo17bo$54b2o14b2obo6b
2o5b2o2bob2o$70bo2b3o3bo2bo4bobobob2o$71b2o3bo3bobo6bobo$73b4o4bo7bob
o$73bo10b2o4bo$71bobob2o7bo$71b2o2bo9b3o$55bo19bobo9bo$56bo19b2o$54b3o
!
Based on that, guntrue_1141

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x = 120, y = 84, rule = B3/S23
48b2o$48bo2b2o$19b2o16bo11b2ob3o$19bobo15b3o15bo$21bo4b2o12bo8b2ob3o12b
o11b2o$17b4ob2o2bo2bo9b2o8b2obo13bobo10b2o$17bo2bobobobob2o36bobo$20b
obobobo37b3ob2o$21b2obobo36bo$25bo38b3ob2o$66bob2o$11b2o$12bo7b2o$12b
obo5b2o$13b2o2$33b2o30b3o3bo$33b2o21b2o5b5o2bobo$56b2o4b2o8bo$63b2o4b
3o14b2o$64bo3b2o15bo2bo$3b2o18b2o61b2obo$4bo18bo65bo$2bo21b3o62b2o$2b
5o14b3o2bo9bo37b2o$7bo13bo3bo8bobo38bo$4b3o12bobob2o10b2o35b3o$3bo15b
2obo49bo$3b4o15bo$b2o3bo3b2o10b3o$o2b3o4b2o13bo$2obo20b2o40b2o$3bo63b
o$3b2o62bobo$26b2o29bo10b2o$25bo2bo26b3o$11b2o41bo$12bo13b3o25b2o$9b3o
22b2o3b2o48b2o$9bo24bobo3bo48b2o$36bo3bob2o$36b2o3bo2bo22b2o2bo$42b2o
22b3o2b2o$23bo33b2o8b2o2b3o$22bobob2o29b2o8b2o2b2o$22bobobobo$19b2obo
bobobo2bo$19bo2bo2b2ob4o$21b2o4bo38bo3b2o$27bobo35bobo3bo$28b2o34bobo
3bo$60b2obobo3bo$60b2obo2b4obo5b2o$64bobo3bobo5bo19b2o$60b2ob2o2bo2bo
bo2b3o10b2o8bo$61bobo2b2o3bo3bo5b2o4bo2bo8bo$49b2o10bobo17b2o4bo2bo7b
2o$44b2o3b2o11bo25b2o$44bobo67b2o$46bo67bo$46b2o8bo30b2o23bobo$48bo6b
obo29b2o23b2o$46b3o5bobo$45bo8b2o$45b2o68b2o$76b2o36bobo$76b2o36bo$113b
2o2$53b2o61b2o$53b2o62bo$93b2o19b3o$79b2o13bo19bo$80bo10b3o4b2o15b2o$
79bo11bo6bo17bo$79b2o14b2obo6b2o5b2o2bob2o$95bo2b3o3bo2bo4bobobob2o$96b
2o3bo3bobo6bobo$98b4o4bo7bobo$98bo10b2o4bo$96bobob2o7bo$79bo16b2o2bo9b
3o$80bo19bobo9bo$78b3o20b2o!
Last edited by WhiteHawk on November 11th, 2025, 1:51 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by FlutterWithKSparkler »

A reduction for guntrue_265 from 3942 to 2808 cells made by putting together a p5 G-to-H, a NW14T181 and a p5 bouncer in a fixed loop.

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x = 54, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
25b2o$24bo2bo$19b2o2bob2obo$19bo3bo2bobo$20b3o2bo2b2o$22bobobo2bo$24b
2ob2o$24b2o$13b2o9bo2b2o2b2o$13b2o9bobo2bo2bo$15bobo4bo5b2obo$18bo3b3o
5bob3o$14bo2bo2b3o7bo4bo$14bo2bo2b2o7b2ob2ob3o$15b2o12bo2bobo3bo$23bo
5b2o5bo2bo$22bobo4b9obo$18b2o2b2o5bo2bobo4bobo$18b2o9b2obob2ob2ob2o$
29bo2bobo3bo$14b2o14b2o2bobobo4bo$7b2o5b2o15bobobobo3b3o$7b2o22bobo2bo
3bo8b2o$32b2o6bob2o5bo$39b2obobo5bo$9b2o30bo2bo4b2o$9b2o30b2obob2o$3b
2o35b3obobob5o$3b2o34bo2bobo5bo2bo$42bo2b5o2b2o$42b4o3bo$37bo3bobo5b2o
$37bo3bobo5b2o$42b4o3bo$34b2o6bo2b5o2b2o$34b2o3bo2bobo5bo2bo$13b3o24b
3obobob5o$12bo3bo24b2obob2o$11bo5bo23bo2bo4b2o$10bo3bo3bo4b2o14b2obobo
5bo$10bo7bo4bobo14bob2o5bo$2o8bobo3bobo6bo14bo8b2o$obob2o5b2o3b2o7b2o
14b3o$2bob2o14b2obobo2bo14bo$bo18b2ob2o2b2o$b2ob2o$2bobo15b2ob2o$2bobo
16bobo$3bo5b2o5b2o3bobo$10bo5bo5bo18bo$7b3o7b3o22bo$7bo11bo20b3o!
Two guns using NW41T298 with period 390 and 385 respectively that are just timing tests and are not reductions.

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x = 156, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
106b2o$106bobo$24bo16b2o65bo4b2o$24b3o13bo2bo60b4ob2o2bo2bo$27bo12bobo
2bo2bo55bo2bobobobob2o$26b2o11b2obob5o58bobobobo$39bo2bo65b2obobo$31bo
8bo2b4o65bo$30bobo6bo2b2o3bo$30bo2bo6bo2b3obo50b2o$31b2o6bo2bo3bo52bo
7b2o$39b2obob2o53bobo5b2o$40bobobo55b2o$40bobo2bo$41bo2b2o5$110b2o$
110bo$111b3o$113bo3$65bo79bo$5bo57b3o19bo57b3o$5b3o54bo8b2o12b3o54bo8b
2o$8bo26bo26bob2o5bo16bo26bo26bob2o5bo$7b2o15b2o7b3o25b2obobo5bo14b2o
15b2o7b3o25b2obobo5bo$24bobo5bo30bo2bo4b2o31bobo5bo30bo2bo4b2o$3b2o20b
o6b2o29b2obob2o13b2o20bo6b2o29b2obob2o$2bo2bo56b3obobob5o7bo2bo56b3obo
bob5o$2bob2o55bo2bobo5bo2bo6bob2o55bo2bobo5bo2bo$b2o61bo2b5o2b2o5b2o
61bo2b5o2b2o$o3b2o48bobo7b4o3bo8bo3b2o48bobo7b4o3bo$b3o2bo48b2o2bo3bob
o5b2o8b3o2bo48b2o2bo3bobo5b2o$4b2obo47bo3bo3bobo5b2o11b2obo47bo3bo3bob
o5b2o$3bo2bo57b4o3bo11bo2bo57b4o3bo$3b2o36b2o13b2o6bo2b5o2b2o7b2o36b2o
13b2o6bo2b5o2b2o$41b2o13b2o3bo2bobo5bo2bo45b2o13b2o3bo2bobo5bo2bo$62b
3obobob5o67b3obobob5o$63b2obob2o73b2obob2o$63bo2bo4b2o70bo2bo4b2o$61b
2obobo5bo68b2obobo5bo$9b2o51bob2o5bo17b2o51bob2o5bo$10bo51bo8b2o17bo
51bo8b2o$7b3o53b3o21b3o53b3o$7bo57bo21bo57bo7$23b2o78b2o$24bo6b2o71bo
6b2o$21b3o7bo69b3o7bo$21bo10b3o66bo10b3o$34bo79bo!
(*≧▽≦)~Yay
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

FlutterWithKSparkler wrote: November 11th, 2025, 5:06 am A reduction for guntrue_265 from 3942 to 2808 cells made by putting together a p5 G-to-H, a NW14T181 and a p5 bouncer in a fixed loop.
Likewise reduction of guntrue_530 (3942 -> 3840) - probably can be better welded

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x = 60, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
33b2o$32bo2bo$31bob2obo2b2o$31bobo2bo3bo$30b2o3bob3o$30bo2bo3bo$31b4o
bo$34bo$27b2o2b3o11b2o$27bo2bo2b3obo8bo$28bob2o3b2o5b2o$25b3obo5b2o5b
3o$24bo4bo8b2o2b3o$22b3ob2ob2o7b2o4bo$21bo3bobo2bo12b2o$20bo2bo5bo6bo
$20bob3o3b2o5bobo$18bobo4b3o2bo5b2o2b2o$18b2ob2o2bobobo10b2o$21bo3bob
o2bo$16bo4bobobo2b2o14b2o$16b3o3bobobobo15b2o5b2o$9b2o8bo3bo2bobo10b2o
10b2o$10bo5b2obo6b2o11bobo$9bo5bobob2o18bo$9b2o4bo33b2o$12b2obobo31b2o
$7b5obobob2o36b2o$6bo2bo5bo3b2o34b2o$6b2o3b4o2bob2o$10bo4b3o2b2o$10bo
bo6b3o$10bobo6b3o$10bo4b3o2b2o$6b2o3b4o2bob2o3b2o$6bo2bo5bo3b2o3b2o$7b
5obobob2o$12b2obobo$9b2o4bo$9bo5bobob2o14b2o$10bo5b2obo14bobo$9b2o8bo
14bo23b2o$16b3o14b2o19b2obobo$16bo14bo2bobob2o14b2obo$31b2o2b2ob2o18b
o$12b2o40b2ob2o$12b2o21b2ob2o15bobo$36bobo16bobo$36bobo3b2o5b2o5bo$3b
2o32bo5bo5bo$3bobo34b3o7b3o$4bo35bo11bo4$7b2o$7b2o$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o13b
2o$15bo10bo$8b2o6b3o8bo$8b2o8bo6b3o!
EDIT: guntrue_795 in an even smaller reduction, (4872 -> 3402)

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x = 54, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
25b2o$24bo2bo$19b2o2bob2obo$19bo3bo2bobo$20b3obo3b2o$22bo3bo2bo$23bob
4o$25bo$13b2o11b3o2b2o$13bo8bob3o2bo2bo$16b2o5b2o3b2obo$15b3o5b2o5bob
3o$15b3o2b2o8bo4bo$15bo4b2o7b2ob2ob3o$15b2o12bo2bobo3bo$23bo6bo5bo2bo
$22bobo5b2o3b3obo$18b2o2b2o5bo2b3o4bobo$18b2o10bobobo2b2ob2o$29bo2bob
o3bo$14b2o14b2o2bobobo4bo$7b2o5b2o15bobobobo3b3o$7b2o22bobo2bo3bo8b2o
$32b2o6bob2o5bo$39b2obobo5bo$9b2o33bo4b2o$9b2o31bobob2o$3b2o36b2obobo
b5o$3b2o34b2o3bo5bo2bo$39b2obo2b4o3b2o$11b3o24b2o2b3o4bo$13bo24b3o6bo
bo$12bo25b3o6bobo$38b2o2b3o4bo$34b2o3b2obo2b4o3b2o$34b2o3b2o3bo5bo2bo
$41b2obobob5o$42bobob2o$44bo4b2o$23b2o14b2obobo5bo$23bobo14bob2o5bo$2o
23bo14bo8b2o$obob2o19b2o14b3o$2bob2o14b2obobo2bo14bo$bo18b2ob2o2b2o$b
2ob2o$2bobo15b2ob2o$2bobo16bobo$3bo5b2o5b2o3bobo$10bo5bo5bo3b3o$7b3o7b
3o7bo6b2o$7bo11bo7bo5b2obo$26b3o3bo3bo$32b4o$26b3o4b2o$26b3o4b2o$32b4o
$26b3o3bo3bo$27bo5b2obo$27bo6b2o$26b3o23bo$2o51bo$2o49b3o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by vilc »

WhiteHawk wrote: November 11th, 2025, 12:12 pm Likewise reduction of guntrue_530 (3942 -> 3840) - probably can be better welded
Turning one of the covers on the p5 sparker into a table allows to pull the semi-snark two cells inwards (58x62).

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x = 58, y = 62, rule = B3/S23
31b2o$30bo2bo$29bob2obo2b2o$29bobo2bo3bo$28b2ob3ob3o$28bo2bobobo$29b2o
$34bo$25b2o2b3ob2o8b2o$25bo2bo3bobo7bobo$26bob2o2b2obo7bo$23b3obo11b3o
$22bo4bo9b4o$20b3ob2ob2o6bobo2bo2bo$19bo3bobo3bo11b2o$18bo2bo7bo4bo$
18bob2obobo3bo3bobo$16bobo10bo4b2o2b2o$16b2ob2ob2obob3o8b2o$19bobobobo
2bo$14bo4bobobo2b2o14b2o$14b3o3bobobobo15b2o5b2o$7b2o8bo3bo2bobo22b2o$
8bo5b2obo6b2o$7bo5bobob2o20b2o$7b2o4bo25bobo5b2o$10b2obo25bo7b2o$5b5ob
obo3bo35b2o$4bo8bobobo35b2o$4b2ob5o3b2o$10bobo3bo$9bo6bo$9bo6bo$10bobo
3bo$4b2ob5o3b2o5b2o$4bo8bobobo4b2o$5b5obobo3bo$10b2obo$7b2o4bo$7bo5bob
ob2o14b2o$8bo5b2obo14bobo$7b2o8bo14bo23b2o$17b2o12b2o19b2obobo$12b2o
15bo2bobob2o14b2obo$12b2o15b2o2b2ob2o18bo$52b2ob2o$33b2ob2o15bobo$3b2o
29bobo16bobo$3bobo28bobo3b2o5b2o5bo$4bo30bo5bo5bo$38b3o7b3o$38bo11bo2$
7b2o$7b2o$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o13b2o$15bo10bo$8b2o6b3o8bo$8b2o8bo6b3o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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vilc wrote: November 11th, 2025, 12:40 pm
WhiteHawk wrote: November 11th, 2025, 12:12 pm Likewise reduction of guntrue_530 (3942 -> 3840) - probably can be better welded
Turning one of the covers on the p5 sparker into a table allows to pull the semi-snark two cells inwards (58x62).
Thanks! Any chance that guntrue_1060 could be reduced in a similar manner? This is still a major reduction from 4599 cells to 3969 cells

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x = 63, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
36b2o$35bo2bo$34bob2obo2b2o$34bobo2bo3bo$33b2o3bob3o$33bo2bo3bo$34b4o
bo$37bo$30b2o2b3o11b2o$30bo2bo2b3obo8bo$31bob2o3b2o5b2o$28b3obo5b2o5b
3o$27bo4bo8b2o2b3o$25b3ob2ob2o7b2o4bo$24bo3bobo2bo12b2o$23bo2bo5bo6bo
$23bob3o3b2o5bobo$21bobo4b3o2bo5b2o2b2o$21b2ob2o2bobobo10b2o$24bo3bob
o2bo$19bo4bobobo2b2o14b2o$19b3o3bobobobo15b2o5b2o$12b2o8bo3bo2bobo10b
2o10b2o$13bo5b2obo6b2o11bobo$12bo5bobob2o18bo$12b2o4bo33b2o$15b2obobo
31b2o$10b5obobob2o36b2o$9bo2bo5bo3b2o34b2o$9b2o3b4o2bob2o$13bo4b3o2b2o
$13bobo6b3o$13bobo6b3o$13bo4b3o2b2o$9b2o3b4o2bob2o3b2o$9bo2bo5bo3b2o3b
2o$10b5obobob2o$15b2obobo$12b2o4bo$12bo5bobob2o14b2o$13b3o3b2obo14bob
o$15bo6bo14bo23b2o$19b3o14b2o19b2obobo$19bo14bo2bobob2o14b2obo$13bo20b
2o2b2ob2o18bo$11b2obo42b2ob2o$10bo27b2ob2o15bobo$9bobo2bo24bobo16bobo
$9bo2bo26bobo3b2o5b2o5bo$10b2o28bo5bo5bo$4b2o37b3o7b3o$3bobo37bo11bo$
3bo$2obo$bobob2o$bobob2o$2obo7b2o$o2b4o3bo2bo7b2o$b2o3bo4b2o8bobo$3b2o
18bo$3bo19b2o$5bo$4b2o!
EDIT: Since I listed missing gun periods up to 1150, here are the missing periods up to 1200
guntrue_1157, guntrue_1159, guntrue_1169 (x7), guntrue_1173, guntrue_1177, guntrue_1183 (x7), guntrue_1189, and guntrue_1199
Last edited by WhiteHawk on November 11th, 2025, 2:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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WhiteHawk wrote: November 11th, 2025, 12:45 pm Thanks! Any chance that guntrue_1060 could be reduced in a similar manner? This is still a major reduction from 4599 cells to 3969 cells
3844 cells.

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x = 62, y = 62, rule = B3/S23
35b2o$34bo2bo$33bob2obo2b2o$33bobo2bo3bo$32b2o3bob3o$32bo2bo3bo$33b4ob
o$36bo$29b2o2b3o11b2o$29bo2bo2b3obo8bo$30bob2o3b2o5b2o$27b3obo5b2o5b3o
$26bo4bo8b2o2b3o$24b3ob2ob2o7b2o4bo$23bo3bobo2bo12b2o$22bo2bo5bo6bo$
22bob3o3b2o5bobo$20bobo4b3o2bo5b2o2b2o$20b2ob2o2bobobo10b2o$23bo3bobo
2bo$18bo4bobobo2b2o14b2o$18b3o3bobobobo15b2o5b2o$11b2o8bo3bo2bobo22b2o
$12bo5b2obo6b2o$11bo5bobob2o$11b2o4bo33b2o$14b2obobo31b2o$9b5obobob2o
36b2o$8bo2bo5bo3b2o34b2o$8b2o3b4o2bob2o$12bo4b3o2b2o24b3o$12bobo6b3o
24bo$12bobo6b3o25bo$12bo4b3o2b2o$8b2o3b4o2bob2o3b2o$8bo2bo5bo3b2o3b2o$
9b5obobob2o$14b2obobo$11b2o4bo$11bo5bobob2o14b2o$8b2obo6b2obo14bobo$8b
obo10bo14bo23b2o$18b3o14b2o19b2obobo$12b2o4bo14bo2bobob2o14b2obo$11b3o
19b2o2b2ob2o18bo$10bob2o42b2ob2o$9bobo25b2ob2o15bobo$9bo2bo25bobo16bob
o$10b2o26bobo3b2o5b2o5bo$4b2o10b2o21bo5bo5bo$3bobo9bo2bo23b3o7b3o$3bo
12b2o24bo11bo$2obo7bo$bobob2o2b3o$bobob2o2b2o$2obo7bo$o2b4o3bo10b2o$b
2o3bo3bo10bobo$3b2o18bo$3bo13bo5b2o$5bo12bo$4b2o10b3o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Reductions to some 54n guns. (I went through a while earlier and updated most instances where an older version of guntrue_108 was used)

guntrue_702 (2772 -> 2730)

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x = 65, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
6bo7b2o10bob2o4b2obo$6b3o5b2o10b2o2bo2bo2b2o$o8bo4b2o8b2o3bo4bo3b2o$3o
5b2o5bo7bo3b2ob4ob2o3bo$3bo9b2ob2o6b3obobo2bobob3o$2b2o9b2ob2o8bobob4o
bobo$12bobobo11bo2b2o2bo$11b3o2bo12b2o2b2o20bo2b2o$12b2o2bobo36b4obo$
17b2o41bo$17b2o34b7ob2o$52bo6bobo2bo$17bo10b2o22b2o2b2obo3b2o$4b2o3b2o
16bo2bo15bo9b2ob2o$4b2o3bobo16bobo3b2o9bobo$9bo2bo16b2o3b2o9bobo$10b2o
10bo21b2ob2o7b2o$44bo5b2o4b2ob2o$21b2o22b5obo3b2obo$21b2o$3b2o4b2o10b
obo2b2o19bob2o$3bobo3b2o12bo2b3o7bo8b3ob2o$5bo3b2o12bobobo6bobo7bo$5b
3ob2o11b2ob2o8b2o7b2o18bo$3b2o2bob2o11b2ob2o35bobo$2bo2b3o3bo12bo5b2o
7b2o22b2o$3b2o3b4o12b2o4bo8b2o$5b2obo5bo9b2o5b3o11bo$5bo2bob5o9b2o6bo
2bo8bobo12b2o$6bobobo19bo3b2o8b2o13bo$7bo4bo17b4o26b3o$11b2o21b2o26bo
$30b2o2bobo$30b2o3bo$52b2o$50bo2bo$39b2o9b3o$40bo6bo$37b3o7b4o$37bo12b
o$49bo$49b2o!
guntrue_1134 (3456 -> 2976), probably reducible

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x = 62, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
o9bo14bo$3o5b3o12b3o$3bo3bo14bo$2b2o3b2o13b2o$3b5o44bo$4b3o43b3o$3b5o
41bo7b2o$49bo2b3obo2bo$13bo32b2obobo2bob2o2bo$13bo17bo14bo2b3o6b2o$12b
obo15bobo15bo7b2o$13bobo15bo17b4obo2bo$13b3o9b2o24bob2obo$3b5o6bo10bo
bob5o13b3o4bob4o$4b3o20bobo3bo12bo2b4o7bo$3b5o19bo3bo15bo4bo2bob3o$2b
2o3b2o17b2o2b3o15b3ob2obobo$3bo3bo13bobo9bo16b2o2bobo$bobobobobo12b2o
8b2o10b2o$obob2ob2obob2ob2o5bo21bo$obo7bob2ob2o19b2o4bobo15b2o$bo2b4o
bo26b2o4b2o16bo$2b2o3bob2ob2o36b3o5bobo$4bo5bob2ob2obo30bo2bo5b2o$4b4o
b3o3bob2o30b2obo$9bo2bobo35b3o$6b3o3b2o36b3obo$6bo42bo3b2o$49bo2bobo$
49bo3bo$26bo23bo2bo5b2o$26b3o6bo14b3o6b2o$29bo$28b2o7bobo$37b3o$19b2o
16b2o$18bobo25b3o$18bo26b3o5b2o$15b2obo7bo26bo$16bobob2o2b3o27b3o$16b
obob2o2b2o30bo$15b2obo7bo$15bo2b4o3bo10b2o$16b2o3bo3bo10bobo$18b2o18b
o$18bo13bo5b2o$20bo12bo$19b2o10b3o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by ElijahKen »

WhiteHawk wrote: November 11th, 2025, 2:58 pm guntrue_1134 (3456 -> 2976), probably reducible

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x = 62, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
o9bo14bo$3o5b3o12b3o$3bo3bo14bo$2b2o3b2o13b2o$3b5o44bo$4b3o43b3o$3b5o
41bo7b2o$49bo2b3obo2bo$13bo32b2obobo2bob2o2bo$13bo17bo14bo2b3o6b2o$12b
obo15bobo15bo7b2o$13bobo15bo17b4obo2bo$13b3o9b2o24bob2obo$3b5o6bo10bo
bob5o13b3o4bob4o$4b3o20bobo3bo12bo2b4o7bo$3b5o19bo3bo15bo4bo2bob3o$2b
2o3b2o17b2o2b3o15b3ob2obobo$3bo3bo13bobo9bo16b2o2bobo$bobobobobo12b2o
8b2o10b2o$obob2ob2obob2ob2o5bo21bo$obo7bob2ob2o19b2o4bobo15b2o$bo2b4o
bo26b2o4b2o16bo$2b2o3bob2ob2o36b3o5bobo$4bo5bob2ob2obo30bo2bo5b2o$4b4o
b3o3bob2o30b2obo$9bo2bobo35b3o$6b3o3b2o36b3obo$6bo42bo3b2o$49bo2bobo$
49bo3bo$26bo23bo2bo5b2o$26b3o6bo14b3o6b2o$29bo$28b2o7bobo$37b3o$19b2o
16b2o$18bobo25b3o$18bo26b3o5b2o$15b2obo7bo26bo$16bobob2o2b3o27b3o$16b
obob2o2b2o30bo$15b2obo7bo$15bo2b4o3bo10b2o$16b2o3bo3bo10bobo$18b2o18b
o$18bo13bo5b2o$20bo12bo$19b2o10b3o!
Smaller (2808):

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x = 54, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
9bo$9b3o$3b2o7bo$2bo2bob3o2bo$bo2b2obo2bobob2o$2b2o6bobo2bo$4bob3o4bo$
4bo2bo3b2o$5bo3b2o$2b4obo4b3o29bo$bo4bob5o2bo26b3o$2b3o2bobo4bo26bo7b
2o$4bobo4b3o27bo2b3obo2bo$5b2ob2obo26b2obobo2bob2o2bo$5b6o27bo2bob2o2b
o2b2o$7b3o30bo3b2ob3o$2o39b2obo4bo$bo41b2obobo$bobo35b3o4bob4o$2b2o19b
o14bo2b5obo4bo$23b3o12bo8bob3o$14bobo9bo9b2ob4o6bo$15b2o8b2o10bobo2bo
4b2o$15bo21bo5b5o$7b2o20b2o4bobo$6bo2bo19b2o4b2o15b2o$b2o6bo42bo$b2o3b
3o41bobo$50b2o$42b3o$42bo2bo$14bo31bo$13bo2bo27b2o$7b2o4bo2bo24b2o2bo$
8bo6bo3bo22b2o$5b3o11b3o6bo14bo7b2o$5bo16bo28b2o$21b2o7bobo$30b3o$12b
2o16b2o$11bobo$11bo26b3o$8b2obo7bo17b3o5b2o$9bobob2o2b3o25bo$9bobob2o
2b2o27b3o$8b2obo7bo28bo$8bo2b4o3bo10b2o$9b2o3bo3bo10bobo$11b2o18bo$11b
o13bo5b2o$13bo12bo$12b2o10b3o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Reduction to guntrue_919, what I think is one of my few prime-period guns, and a reminder that several guns can be reduced by a row via the newer converter. (I went ahead and reduced a bunch, this was one of the more interesting ones)

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x = 115, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
16b2o66b2o$16b2o9b2o34b2o19bobo$27b2o33bobo21bo4b2o$11b2o43b2o4bo19b4o
b2o2bo2bo$11b2o41bo2bo2b2ob4o15bo2bobobobob2o$54b2obobobobo2bo18bobob
obo$57bobobobo22b2obobo$57bobob2o27bo$58bo36bo$76b2o17b3o$71b2o4bo7b2o
11bo$62b2o7bo5bobo5b2o10bobo$4b2o56b2o5bobo6b2o17bobo$3bobo63b2o27bo$
3bo$2b2o3$b2ob2o2b2o103b2o$obobo2bobo78b2o23b2o$obo2b2o16b2o34b2o27bo
$bobobo17bo36bo28b3o$2bo2bo2bo15b3o30b3o31bo$3b3obobo16bo30bo33bob2o$
6bobo80b2obobo$3b2o2bo81bo2bo$b3ob2o84b2o7b2o$o64bo34b2o$b3ob2o56b3o$
3bob2o55bo45b2obo$62b2o44b2ob3o$13b2o99bo$13b2o7b2o84b2ob3o$22bo2bo81b
o2b2o$20bobob2o80bobo$20b2obo64bo16bobob3o$23bo64b3o15bo2bo2bo$23b3o26b
2o37bo17bobobo$26bo24bobo5b2o29b2o16b2o2bobo$2o23b2o24bo7b2o44bobo2bo
bobo$2o48b2o53b2o2b2ob2o2$64bo23b3o$60b2obobo22bo23bo$59bobobobo23bo20b
3o$16bo39bo2bobobobob2o40bo$15bobo17b2o19b4ob2o2bo2bo40b2o$15bobo10b2o
5bobo22bo4b2o13bo$16bo11b2o7bo20bobo19b3o$17b3o17b2o19b2o23bo$19bo62b
o$24bo57b2o$23bobob2o51b2o2bo$23bobobobo49bo2b3o$20b2obobobobo2bo47bo
23bo$20bo2bo2b2ob4o48b4o6b2o3b2o5bobo8bo$22b2o4bo54bo7b2o3b2o6bo7bobo
$28bobo54bo27b2o$29b2o53b2o!
EDIT: guntrue_648 reduced below 2000 (1938)

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x = 43, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
33bo$26b2o3b3o$26bobobo7b2o$16bo11bobo2b3obo2bo$15bobo2b2o5b2obobo2bo
b2o2bo$15bobo3bo8bob2o2bo2b2o$13b2obob3o6b3o3b2ob3o$12bobo3bo7bo3b2ob
o4bo$11bo4b2o8bo2bo2b2obobo$12b4obo7b2obobo4bob4o$15bob2ob2o3bo2bob5o
bo4bo$12b2obobo2b2o4b3o7bob3o$10bo2bob2o13b2o6bo$10b2obo14b2obo4b2o$13b
o14bo3b5o$13b2o11bobo$20b3o3b2o13b2o$19bo3bo6bo10bo$19bo3bo5bo9bobo$19b
o3bo5b3o7b2o$20b3o2$11bo$11b3o$14bo$13b2o$32b3o5b2o$4b2o25b2ob2o4b2o$
3bobo24bobob2o$3bo26bo3bo$2obo27bo2bo$bobob2o24b3o$bobob2o20b3o$2obo7b
2o13b3o5b2o$o2b4o3bo2bo7b2o11bo$b2o3bo4b2o8bobo11b3o$3b2o18bo13bo$3bo
19b2o$5bo$4b2o2$11bo$6b3ob2o2b2o$6b4o4b2o7bo$10b2o12bo$22b3o!
EDIT 2: guntrue_1107 reduced (4088 -> 3264)

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x = 51, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
4b2obo3bo2bo3bobo$3bobob5o3bo2bobo23b2o$3b5obobo3bo3bo15b2o7bobo$b2o4b
o2bo3bo21bo9bo$2bob4o2bo10bo12bo5b2o4bob2o$bo2bo3bo9bo6bo8b2o4bo5bob2o
$o3bob2o13bo3b3o9b2obo2b2obo$obobobo21bo5b2obobo4bob4o$b2obo2b3o9bo7b
2o5bo2bo6b2o4bo$4bo4bo10bo15b2o8b4o$4b2o3bobo7b2o25bo$10b2o34bob2o$4b
4o38bo$4bo2bo41bo$50bo$28bo19bobo$16b3o8b2o19b2o$17bo9bobo$22bo5bo$21b
obo9bo$b2o19b2o8b3o$obo19bo$o$bo41bo2bo$4bo38b4o$b2obo34b2o$4bo25b2o7b
obo3b2o$b4o8b2o15bo10bo3b2o$o4b2o6bo2bo5b2o7bo9b2o$b4obo4bobob2o5bo$4b
ob2o2bob2o9b3o3bo$b2obo5bo4b2o8bo6bo$b2obo4b2o5bo12bo2bo$4bo9bo16b3o$
4bobo7b2o5b2ob2o5b3o$5b2o12bo2bobobo3bo2bo9bo$19b2obo2bo4bobo8b3o$22b
o7b3o7bo$22b2o16b2o$20b2o2bobo$19bo2bo2b2o$20b2o3$19b2o$20bo$14bo5bob
o$14b3o4b2o$17bo13b2o$16b2o13b2o3b2o$36b2o$7b2o$6bobo35b2o$6bo37bobo$
3b2obo7bo31bo$4bobob2o2b3o31b2o$4bobob2o2b2o$3b2obo7bo$3bo2b4o3bo10b2o
$4b2o3bo3bo10bobo$6b2o18bo$6bo13bo5b2o$8bo12bo$7b2o10b3o!
Even guntrue_3321 is smaller, at 3978 cells

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x = 78, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
8bo5b2o$4b2obobobobo2bo$4b2obobobo3b2o$7bobo6b3o36bo$2b6ob4o4b3o3b2ob
2o25b3o$bo6bo7bo2b2o3bob2o24bo$b2o3b3o7bo3bo3bo27b2o14bo2b2o$6bo11bob
o2b2o10b2o31b4obo$28bo7bo36bo$4bo10b2ob2o6b3o7bobo27b7ob2o$4b3o10bo7b
o11b2o26bo6bobo2bo$7bo17b2o38b2o2b2obo3b2o$6bo10b2o50b2ob2o$6b4o6b3o$
2b2o5bo5b2o3b2o$2bo2bobo14bo46b2o$4b2ob2o8bo2bobo19b2o25b2ob2o$18bob2o
20b2o16b2o6b2obo$16bo3bo40bo$15bo3bo6b2o33bobo$16b3o7b2o34b2o2$7b2o10b
o57bo$6bobo10bo41bo13bobo$6bo12bo15bo3b2o18b3o14b2o$5b2o23b2o2bobo3bo
17bo$17bo12bo3b2o3bo18b2o$17bo10bobo7bo33b2o$17bo10b2o4b5obo5b2o24bo$
34bo4bobo5bo25b3o$9b2o7b3o15bo2bobo2b3o28bo$9b2o6bo3bo13b2o3bo3bo$16b
o3bo$15b2obo29b2o$14bobo2bo8b2ob2o14bobo8bo$b2o11bo14bobo2bo12bo9bobo
$o2bo11b2o3b2o5bo5b2o11b2o9bobo$18b3o6b4o27bo$18b2o10bo$3o7b2o17bo$bo
b2o6bo7bo10b3o$b2o5b3o6b2ob2o10bo22b2ob2o$bo3bo2bo42b2o2b2obo3b2o$5ob
obo3b2o2bobo11bo20bo6bobo2bo$2bobob2o4bo3bo3bo7b3o3b2o16b7ob2o$3obo5b
obo3b2o2bo7bo6bo23bo$obob7ob2o3b3o4b4ob6o19b4obo$b2o15b3o6bobo24bo2b2o
$3b2o2b2o11b2o3bobobob2o$3bobo2bo11bo2bobobobob2o$6b2o13b2o5bo!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

Pseudastur albicollis
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