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Re: Sober ABC's thread

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x = 33, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
24b2o5b2o$24b2o5b2o2$22b3o2b2o$27b2o4$4b2o3bo$4b2o3bo8bo$9bo8bobo$2o5b
2o9b3o$2o5b2o11bo!
Doesn't the axiom work - turning right three times becomes turning left?


Cool! A difficult axiom! The correct answer is 3 times in one direction and one cell up. Damn! Awesome! This error is the fuel of continuous surface spaceships.
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Re: Sober ABC's thread

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I want to find a gun that shoots in all directions at once. Something like this!

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x = 42, y = 80, rule = B3/S23
3b2o7b2o$3bobo5bobo$3bo4bo4bo$3o4b3o4b3o$o6bob2o5bo$bo6b3o4bo$4b2o2b2o
$3b4o5b2o$2b2ob2o3b2ob2o$3b2o5b4o$7b2o2b2o$bo4b3o6bo$o5b2obo6bo$3o4b3o
4b3o$3bo4bo4bo$3bobo5bobo$3b2o7b2o45$27b2o7b2o$27bobo5bobo$27bo4bo4bo
$31b3o$23b3o5bob2o4b3o$23bo8b3o6bo$24bo7b2o6bo$27b2o$26b4o7b2o$25b2ob
2o5b2ob2o$26b2o7b4o$36b2o$24bo6b2o7bo$23bo6b3o8bo$23b3o4b2obo5b3o$31b
3o$27bo4bo4bo$27bobo5bobo$27b2o7b2o!
You can just do it at 45 degrees...
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Re: Sober ABC's thread

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Sober ABC wrote: July 31st, 2025, 6:24 am I want to find a gun that shoots in all directions at once. Something like this!
You can just do it at 45 degrees...
Then you could try welding multiple guns together.
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Re: Sober ABC's thread

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b-engine wrote: July 31st, 2025, 9:36 am
Sober ABC wrote: July 31st, 2025, 6:24 am I want to find a gun that shoots in all directions at once....
Then you could try welding multiple guns together.
Another possible alternative shows up at the end of this LifeViewer demo pattern from Gathing for Gardner in 2013:

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x = 6790, y = 6784, rule = B3/S23
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Various programmable universal construction arms can shoot in all directions, one at a time -- or it could build and trigger a seed that produces any number of outputs simultaneously.

Technically they could do that for more than eight directions ... but unfortunately the spaceships that we currently know how to construct, that travel in directions other than cardinal or inter-cardinal, are all doubleplusunsmall.
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Sober ABC wrote: July 31st, 2025, 6:24 am I want to find a gun that shoots in all directions at once. Something like this!

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x = 42, y = 80, rule = B3/S23
3b2o7b2o$3bobo5bobo$3bo4bo4bo$3o4b3o4b3o$o6bob2o5bo$bo6b3o4bo$4b2o2b2o
$3b4o5b2o$2b2ob2o3b2ob2o$3b2o5b4o$7b2o2b2o$bo4b3o6bo$o5b2obo6bo$3o4b3o
4b3o$3bo4bo4bo$3bobo5bobo$3b2o7b2o45$27b2o7b2o$27bobo5bobo$27bo4bo4bo
$31b3o$23b3o5bob2o4b3o$23bo8b3o6bo$24bo7b2o6bo$27b2o$26b4o7b2o$25b2ob
2o5b2ob2o$26b2o7b4o$36b2o$24bo6b2o7bo$23bo6b3o8bo$23b3o4b2obo5b3o$31b
3o$27bo4bo4bo$27bobo5bobo$27b2o7b2o!
You can just do it at 45 degrees...
Here is a p80 example that shoots in 8 directions at once:

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x = 118, y = 118, rule = LifeHistory
45.4B6.B3A44.7B$45.6B5.A3B43.7B$44.2BA2BABAB4.A3B42.7B$44.2ABAB3A3B3.
4B41.7B$39.A3.2BA.3B.BA2B4.4B10.2A.BA25.7B$38.A.A2.B2A5BA3B5.4B8.A2B.
2AB24.7B$37.B2AB.6B.6B6.4B5.A2.2B3A2.A22.7B$38.2B2.3BA5B2AB8.4B4.4A.A
.B3A22.7B$19B2A23BAB.3B.A2B9.4B6.B.A.B25.7B$17BA4BA22B3ABAB2A11.4B4.
2A.A.2A24.7B$16BA25B2.BABA2BA2B12.4B3.AB.A.A25.7B$16BA5BA20B3.6B14.7B
2A.A2.A23.7B$16B6A20B6.4B15.8B.A.2A23.7B$42B26.5B3.A26.7B$42B.2B23.5B
2.2A26.7B$37.7B2A22.6B29.7B$37.7B2AB21.6B29.2B3A2B$37.10B21.7B28.2BA
2BAB$37.8B.B2A17.8B29.2BA4B$36.9B.BA.A16.8B29.2BA3BA$37.8B4.A15.9B29.
2BA3BA$36.9B4.2A4.2A.2B5.10B28.2BA4B$36.7B.B2A8.A2.3A2.11B29.3BABAB$
36.6B2.BA.A8.2A3B2.12B28.7B$36.6B5.A9.4BA6B3A4B28.7B$35.4BA2B5.2A8.4B
A.5BABA4B28.7B$36.2B3A3B12.2A3B2.7BA5B27.7B$36.BA2B2A2B11.A2.3A3.12B
27.7B$36.5A4B10.2A.2B5.6B2.B.B2A25.7B$35.B4A5B5.2A.2A7.7B6.BA.A24.7B$
36.4A7B2.3B2.A7.BAB2.2B9.A24.7B$35.2B2ABAB2A3B2.A2B2A6.2B3A13.3A22.7B
$35.3BA4BA6B3A7.B3ABA15.A21.7B$35.4B2A2BA3B.2B3A8.BA2B.A13.2A21.7B$
34.5B4A4B2.A2B2A9.A.2BAB11.4B19.7B$34.7BA4B3.3B2.A9.AB3AB12.5B.B3.B
10.7B$32.2AB.B2.6B5.2A.2A10.3A2B11.6B3A7B.B4.7B$6.2A23.A.AB6.7B17.BAB
14.4B5A19B.B$7.A3.2A18.A9.2B2.3A18.2B14.3B5ABA19B2A$5.B.A.A2.A16.3A
13.3BAB31.2B2A2B3AB2A18BA.A$4.3A2B2A17.A15.A3BAB23.2B6.2B2ABA2B3A18B.
BA$4.B2A4.4A13.2A13.A.A2BA24.3A3.3B2A6BA19B$6.5A3.A11.4B11.A2BA.A24.B
A3B3.4BA2BA5B3.8B3.B.4B$4.A2B4.AB4.B3.B.5B12.BA3BA25.BA3BA3.4B3A5B4.
8B4.6B$4.A2BABABAB2.14B11.BA3B27.A2BA.A2.10B4.7B2AB3.2BA2BABAB$5.A.A.
2A17B14.3A29.A.A2BAB.6B6.2A4.B2A4.2ABAB3A3B$7.A3.17B14.2B31.A3BAB2.5B
7.A2.4B4.2BA.3B.BA2B$6.2A3.13B3A2B47.3BAB4.B6.3A3.2A6.B2A5BA3B$11.13B
A4B6.2B39.3A5.2B6.A6.A5.6B.6B$10.14B2A5B3.BAB40.2B3.BA2BAB8.3A6.3BA5B
2AB$9.4B5.13B3.3A2B42.A2B2A2BA7.A8.2BAB.3B.A2B$8.4B6.12B3.AB3AB42.A2B
2A2BA16.3B3ABAB2A$7.4B9.10B2.A.2BAB45.4A20.BABA2BA2B$6.4B12.6B.2BA2B.
A45.A.A2.A.A20.6B$5.4B13.5B2.B3ABA46.2A4.2A22.4B$4.4B16.B4.2B3A55.2A
4.2A20.B$3.4B17.2A5.BAB55.A.A2.A.A19.2A$2.4B16.A4BA3.2B58.A2BA20.ABA$
.4B16.BA4BAB60.BA4BAB17.3BA$A3B17.BA4BAB60.BA4BAB16.4B$ABA20.A2BA58.
2B3.A4BA16.4B$2A19.A.A2.A.A55.BAB5.2A17.4B$B20.2A4.2A55.3A2B4.B16.4B$
3.4B22.2A4.2A46.AB3AB2.5B13.4B$3.6B20.A.A2.A.A45.A.2BA2B.6B12.4B$2.2B
A2BABAB20.4A45.BA2B.A2.10B9.4B$2.2ABAB3A3B16.A2B2A2BA42.B3ABA3.12B6.
4B$.2BA.3B.BA2B8.A7.A2B2A2BA42.2B3A3.13B5.4B$.B2A5BA3B6.3A8.BA2BAB3.
2B40.BAB3.5B2A14B$6B.6B5.A6.A6.2B5.3A39.2B6.4BA13B$3BA5B2AB6.2A3.3A6.
B4.BA3B47.2B3A13B3.2A$2BAB.3B.A2B4.4B2.A7.5B2.BA3BA31.2B14.17B3.A$3B
3ABAB2A4.2AB4.2A6.6B.BA2BA.A29.3A14.17B2A.A.A$2.BABA2BA2B3.B2A7B4.10B
2.A.A2BA27.3BAB11.14B2.BABABA2BA$4.6B4.8B4.5B3A4B3.A3BAB25.A3BAB12.5B
.B3.B4.BA4.2BA$6.4B.B3.8B3.5BA2BA4B3.3BAB24.A.A2BA11.4B11.A3.5A$8.19B
A6B2A3B3.3A24.A2BA.A13.2A13.4A4.2AB$5.AB.18B3A2BAB2A2B6.2B23.BA3BA15.
A17.2A2B3A$4.A.A18B2AB3A2B2A2B31.BA3B13.3A16.A2.A.A.B$5.2A19BAB5A3B
14.2B18.3A2.2B9.A18.2A3.A$6.B.19B5A4B14.BAB17.7B6.BA.A23.2A$8.7B4.B.
7B3A6B11.2B3A10.2A.2A5.6B2.B.B2A$8.7B10.B3.B.5B12.B3ABA9.A2.3B3.4BA7B
$8.7B19.4B11.BA2B.A9.2A2BA2.4B4A5B$8.7B21.2A13.A.2BAB8.3A2B.3BA2B2A4B
$8.7B21.A15.AB3AB7.3A6BA4BA3B$8.7B22.3A13.3A2B6.2A2BA2.3B2ABAB2A2B$8.
7B24.A9.2B2.BAB7.A2.3B2.7B4A$8.7B24.A.AB6.7B7.2A.2A5.5B4AB$8.7B25.2AB
.B2.6B5.2B.2A10.4B5A$8.7B27.12B3.3A2.A11.2B2A2BAB$8.7B27.5BA7B2.3B2A
12.3B3A2B$8.7B28.4BABA5B.A4B8.2A5.2BA4B$8.7B28.4B3A6BA4B9.A5.6B$8.7B
28.12B2.3B2A8.A.AB2.6B$8.BABA3B29.11B2.3A2.A8.2AB.7B$8.4BA2B28.10B5.
2B.2A4.2A4.9B$8.A3BA2B29.9B15.A4.8B$8.A3BA2B29.8B16.A.AB.9B$8.4BA2B
29.8B17.2AB.8B$8.BA2BA2B28.7B21.10B$8.2B3A2B29.6B21.B2A7B$8.7B29.6B
22.2A7B$8.7B26.2A2.5B23.2B.42B$8.7B26.A3.5B26.42B$8.7B23.2A.A.8B15.4B
6.20B6A16B$8.7B23.A2.A.2A7B14.6B3.20BA5BA16B$8.7B25.A.A.BA3.4B12.2BA
2BABAB2.25BA16B$8.7B24.2A.A.2A4.4B11.2ABAB3A22BA4BA17B$8.7B25.B.A.B6.
4B9.2BA.3B.BA23B2A19B$8.7B22.3AB.A.4A4.4B8.B2A5BA3B2.2B$8.7B22.A2.3A 
2B2.A5.4B6.6B.6B.B2AB$8.7B24.B2A.2BA8.4B5.3BA5B2AB2.A.A$8.7B25.AB.2A
10.4B4.2BAB.3B.A2B3.A$8.7B41.4B3.3B3ABAB2A$8.7B42.3BA4.BABA2BA2B$8.7B
43.3BA5.6B$8.7B44.3AB6.4B!
The glider and HWSS guns are connected by tying fumaroles together, and by welding two eaters as an elevener.
I challenge someone to find a smaller gun (of any period) by bounding box (this one is 118x118, or 13924 cells) which:
- Fires spaceships in 8 unique directions.
- Can be considered to be a single gun, rather than a constellation of guns.
- Repeats with the same period as the spaceship streams (For example, you could not use GGGs for diagonal spaceships and p80 HWSS guns for the orthogonal spaceships, and you cannot use pseudo-period guns).
- Is not pointlessly over-densified.
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x = 63, y = 66, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o11$24bo$25bo$23b3o10$48bo$48bo$48bo5$43bo$43bobo$43b3o$45bo4$
18b2o$18b2o2$14b2o5b2o$14b2o5b2o6$56b2o$56bobo$56bo12$60b2o$60bobo$60b
o!
Thanks for the interesting examples.
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PK22 wrote: August 1st, 2025, 6:31 am I challenge someone to find a smaller gun (of any period) by bounding box (this one is 118x118, or 13924 cells) which:
- Fires spaceships in 8 unique directions.
- Can be considered to be a single gun, rather than a constellation of guns.
- Repeats with the same period as the spaceship streams (For example, you could not use GGGs for diagonal spaceships and p80 HWSS guns for the orthogonal spaceships, and you cannot use pseudo-period guns).
- Is not pointlessly over-densified.
That should be possible with some conduits, but I'm not sure about whether it would be smaller.
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PK22 wrote: August 1st, 2025, 6:31 am I challenge someone to find a smaller gun (of any period) by bounding box (this one is 118x118, or 13924 cells) which:
- Fires spaceships in 8 unique directions.
- Can be considered to be a single gun, rather than a constellation of guns...
Wouldn't you know -- I tried the obvious option, and got 119x119 (really a little bigger in other phases) -- period 256, and this phase is 569 live cells (but that's not a standard comparison point for guns):

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x = 119, y = 119, rule = B3/S23
65bobo2bo$65b3obob2o$64bo6bo5bo$65bo5b2o3bobo$77b2o$64b2o5bo$65bo6bo$
64b2obob3o$66bo2bobo4$52b2o$52bo$54bo$34b2o14b5o8bo$35bo13bo13b3o$35b
obo12b3o13bo$36b2o15bo11b2o$50b4o$45b2o3bo3b2o$45b2o4b3o2bo9b2o19b2o$
53bob2o9b2o19b2o$53bo$52b2o3$44b2o$44bo$45b3o$21b2o24bo$21b2o2$79b2o$
79bo23bo$36bo43b3o18b3o$35bobo7b2o36bo16bo$35bobo7b2o8b2o23b3o17b2o$33b
obob2o17bo21b3o$33b2o3bo17bobo18bo$3b2o33bobo3b2o11b2o18b2o$2bobo34b2o
2bo2bo$3bo40bobo2b2o$30bo14bo3b2o26bo$29bob2o27b2o14bobo11b2o$28b2obo
b2o23b3ob2o11bo2bo2b2o6bobo5b2o$bobo2bo25bo25bobob2o12b2o3b2o6bo7b2o$
b3obob2o25bobo19b2obo28b2o$o6bo$bo5b2o26b2o18bo19b2o25bo$75b2o21b2obo
bo$2o5bo13b2o74bobobobo$bo6bo8b2o2b2o71bo2bobobobob2o$2obob3o8bobo75b
4ob2o2bo2bo$2bo2bobo8bo81bo4b2o$15b2o64bo14bobo$79b3o14b2o$78bo$78b2o
2$39b2o$40bo$21b2o14b3o$20bobo14bo64b2o$14b2o4bo81bo8bobo2bo$12bo2bo2b
2ob4o75bobo8b3obob2o$12b2obobobobo2bo71b2o2b2o8bo6bo$15bobobobo74b2o13b
o5b2o$15bobob2o21b2o$16bo25b2o66b2o5bo$111bo6bo$29b2o79b2obob3o$20b2o
7bo6b2o3b2o69bo2bobo$20b2o5bobo6b2o2bo2bo$27b2o11bobo$41bo26b2o3bo$68b
2o2bobo40bo$72bo2bo2b2o34bobo$40b2o18b2o11b2o3bobo33b2o$41bo18bobo17b
o3b2o$38b3o21bo17b2obobo$17b2o17b3o23b2o8b2o7bobo$18bo16bo36b2o7bobo$
15b3o18b3o43bo$15bo23bo$38b2o2$96b2o$71bo24b2o$71b3o$74bo$73b2o3$65b2o
$65bo$30b2o19b2o9b2obo$30b2o19b2o9bo2b3o4b2o$63b2o3bo3b2o$65b4o$52b2o
11bo15b2o$52bo13b3o12bobo$53b3o13bo13bo$55bo8b5o14b2o$64bo$66bo$65b2o
4$47bobo2bo$47b3obob2o$46bo6bo$47bo5b2o$40b2o$40bobo3b2o5bo$41bo5bo6b
o$46b2obob3o$48bo2bobo!
Haven't looked for a way to get a pi and glider out of the Herschel factories quicker -- or maybe there's some other trick to get an LWSS or MWSS with the help of sparkers.
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x = 237, y = 159, rule = B3/S23
45$143bo$144bo$142b3o11$166bo$167bo$19bo145b3o$20bo$18b3o6$191b2o5b2o
$191b2o5b2o2$162bo31b2o$162bo31b2o$42bo119bo$43bo$41b3o2$185bo$185bob
o$185b3o$187bo4$160b2o$66bo93b2o$38bo27bo$38bo27bo89b2o5b2o$38bo117b2o
5b2o4$61bo$61bobo$61b3o134b2o$63bo134bobo$198bo3$36b2o$36b2o2$32b2o5b
2o$32b2o5b2o5$202b2o$74b2o126bobo$74bobo125bo$74bo12$78b2o$78bobo$78b
o!

I tried to replace three blocks with a single flasher. But I only proved to myself that it's impossible. It's some kind of transformation within the zero quadrant. However, the initial point is not in the middle of the zero quadrant's side, as I assumed.


I also read about the term "seed," which refers to selecting any pattern (or part of a pattern) in the middle of a mufosolin's life cycle and comparing it with other mufosols. It's like moving the start (or finish) to the middle (random position between) of the life cycle.
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Развернул на 90 градусов и почистил мусор. Но блин! Не синхранизируется, не складывается в прямоугольник.

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x = 135, y = 127, rule = B3/S23
133bo$132bo$132b3o3$128bo$127bo$127b3o26$79b2o$79b2o3$76b2o$76b2o2$79b
2o$79b2o8$85bo$85bo$85bo9$56b2o$56b2o30b2o5b2o$64b3o21b2o5b2o2$91b2o$
91b2o3$64b2o$64b2o$72b3o7bo$82bobo$82b3o$84bo26$42b2o$41bobo$43bo23$b
2o$obo$2bo!
If I remove the last auxiliary block, you'll get a fairly clean climber.

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x = 135, y = 127, rule = B3/S23
133bo$132bo$132b3o3$128bo$127bo$127b3o26$79b2o$79b2o3$76b2o$76b2o2$79b
2o$79b2o8$85bo$85bo$85bo9$56b2o$56b2o30b2o5b2o$64b3o21b2o5b2o2$91b2o$
91b2o3$64b2o$64b2o$72b3o7bo$82bobo$82b3o$84bo26$42b2o$41bobo$43bo23$b
2o3b2o$obo2bobo$2bo4bo!
But why do they always turn in the wrong direction? But Herschel's factory(conveyor) turned out to be beautiful(completed).

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x = 135, y = 127, rule = B3/S23
133bo$132bo$132b3o3$128bo$127bo$127b3o26$79b2o$79b2o3$76b2o$76b2o2$79b
2o$79b2o8$85bo$85bo$85bo9$56b2o$56b2o30b2o5b2o$64b3o21b2o5b2o2$91b2o$
91b2o3$64b2o$64b2o$72b3o7bo$82bobo$82b3o$84bo13$77b3o8$76b2o$76b2o4$42b
2o$41bobo$43bo23$b2o3b2o$obo2bobo$2bo4bo!
And so...

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x = 1444, y = 540, rule = B3/S23
212$239bo11b2o5b2o413b2o5b2o$239b3o9b2o5b2o413b2o5b2o$239bobo$241bo12b
2o401b2o17b2o$254b2o400bobo17b2o$655b2obo12b3o$656b2obo11bob2o$370bob
o2b2o8b2o5b2o263b3o12bob2o$224b2o5b2o137bo2b2o10b2o5b2o252b2o5b2o17bo
bo$224b2o5b2o137bo2b2o2bo268b2o5b2o17b2o$371b2o2bobo10b2o$227b2o5b2o152b
2o259b2o5b2o$227b2o5b2o413b2o5b2o$526b2o5b2o$526b2o5b2o$358b2o5b2o150b
o$204b2o152b2o5b2o147b3o12b2o95b2o$204b2o12bo291b2obo15b2o95b2o12bo$218b
obo140b2o5b2o140bo4bo124bobo$200b2o5b2o9b3o140b2o5b2o141b3o108b2o5b2o
9b3o$200b2o5b2o11bo401b2o5b2o11bo$499b2o5b2o$499b2o5b2o$338b2o$338b2o
12bo149b2o5b2o$352bobo147b2o5b2o$334b2o5b2o9b3o$334b2o5b2o11bo2$479b2o
387b2o5b2o$479b2o12bo374b2o5b2o$493bobo$475b2o5b2o9b3o356b2o17b2o$475b
2o5b2o11bo355bobo17b2o$850b2obo$851b2obo$852b3o$841b2o5b2o$841b2o5b2o
12bo$862bobo$844b2o5b2o9b3o$844b2o5b2o11bo4$821b2o$821b2o12bo$835bobo
$817b2o5b2o9b3o$817b2o5b2o11bo4$1003b2o5b2o$1003b2o5b2o2$987b2o17b2o$
986bobo17b2o$985b2obo$986b2obo$987b3o$976b2o5b2o$976b2o5b2o11b4o$1000b
o$979b2o5b2o8bo4bo$979b2o5b2o9b2obo$999bo3$956b2o$956b2o12bo$970bobo$
952b2o5b2o9b3o$952b2o5b2o11bo!

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x = 96, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
5$68b2o5b2o$68b2o5b2o2$52b2o17b2o$51bobo17b2o$50b2obo$51b2obo$52b3o$41b
2o5b2o$41b2o5b2o2$44b2o5b2o$44b2o5b2o4$21b2o$21b2o12bo$35bobo$17b2o5b
2o9b3o$17b2o5b2o11bo!
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I think I've matured and made my own gun, a shotgun! Eh? It's just a sniper scopes. Or is it a double-barreled shotgun!

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x = 60, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
51b2o5b2o$51b2o5b2o2$35b2o17b2o$34bobo17b2o$33b2obo$34b2obo$35b3o$24b
2o5b2o$24b2o5b2o2$27b2o5b2o$27b2o5b2o4$4b2o$4b2o12bo$18bobo$2o5b2o9b3o
$2o5b2o11bo!
The only possible antiphase... Well, and a lot of following synchronic positions.
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Sober ABC wrote: August 2nd, 2025, 7:01 am I think I've matured and made my own gun, a shotgun! Eh? It's just a sniper scopes. Or is it a double-barreled shotgun! The only possible antiphase... Well, and a lot of following synchronic positions.
This gun has four barrels, not two.
It is easy to make welds of guns, just like still lifes. Strictly speaking, you'll need a search program to "mature".
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b-engine wrote: August 2nd, 2025, 7:35 am Strictly speaking, you'll need a search program to "mature".
Why would this be the case? There are many other things one could do in CA that do not require a search program
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LuveelVoom wrote: August 2nd, 2025, 10:15 am Why would this be the case? There are many other things one could do in CA that do not require a search program
I mean, only in B3/S23.
I had made major contributions to OCA, but never made any notable discoveries in Life because I couldn't manage to run scripts.
Sober ABC also stated that (s)he isn't interested in OCA.
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Oh yes, running scripts is a big problem. And I finally understood what OCA means. They sent me a script for translating words... And they hid the sensors from me for a very long time. When I was learning to program (Turbo Search), there were no touch screens. And the libraries for graphical Pascal cost money. In short, it was impossible to program for free on the internet or for the internet. But now Scratch has appeared, and your forum is programming and automating text into code for free. I've been waiting for this for a long time! And I waited! But I still can't run the scripts. How is it? Why... The public suddenly becomes... In short! Changing the initial rules is not programming. The lack of an end goal in programming is coding. Coding in the bad sense of the word.

Why change the starting rules of a cellular automaton? Why does society, most people, make such an effort to become anonymous (or a hacker in the bad sense - to break anonymity)? After all, this is... To astonish... Well, I don't know how to put it...

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x = 346, y = 88, rule = B3/S23
302b2o20b2o$302b2o20b2o2$154b2o20b2o$154b2o20b2o127b2o14b2o$305b2o14b
2o2$157b2o14b2o127b2o20b2o$157b2o14b2o127b2o20b2o2$154b2o20b2o$154b2o
20b2o7$303b3o16b3o$303bo20bo$282b2o5b2o11b3o18b3o11b2o5b2o$155b3o16b3o
105b2o5b2o46b2o5b2o$155bo20bo$134b2o5b2o11b3o18b3o11b2o5b2o88b2o52b2o
$20b2o20b2o90b2o5b2o46b2o5b2o88b2o25b2o25b2o$20b2o20b2o269b2o$138b2o52b
2o$138b2o25b2o25b2o$23b2o14b2o124b2o142b2o6b2o$23b2o14b2o255bo12b2o6b
2o12bo$162b2o4b2o124bobo34bobo$20b2o20b2o117b3o4b3o123b3o9b2o5b2o5b2o
9b3o$20b2o20b2o104bo12b2o6b2o12bo110bo11b2o5b2o5b2o11bo$146bobo34bobo
$146b3o9b2o5b2o5b2o9b3o$146bo11b2o5b2o5b2o11bo124b2o5b2o$310b2o5b2o2$
162b2o4b2o143b2o$162b2o4b2o143b2o2$165b2o$21b3o16b3o122b2o$21bo20bo259b
3o18b3o$2o5b2o11b3o18b3o11b2o5b2o239bo20bo$2o5b2o46b2o5b2o239b3o16b3o
$154b3o18b3o$4b2o52b2o95bo20bo$4b2o25b2o25b2o95b3o16b3o$31b2o2$28b2o4b
2o$27b3o4b3o$27b2o6b2o12bo$49bobo$12bo11b2o5b2o5b2o9b3o250b2o20b2o$12b
3o9b2o5b2o5b2o11bo250b2o20b2o$12bobo$14bo12b2o6b2o117b2o20b2o127b2o14b
2o$27b3o4b3o117b2o20b2o127b2o14b2o$28b2o4b2o$157b2o14b2o$31b2o124b2o14b
2o127b2o20b2o$4b2o25b2o25b2o242b2o20b2o$4b2o52b2o$154b2o20b2o$2o5b2o46b
2o5b2o90b2o20b2o$2o5b2o11b3o18b3o11b2o5b2o$21bo20bo$21b3o16b3o10$20b2o
20b2o$20b2o20b2o2$23b2o14b2o$23b2o14b2o3$20b2o20b2o$20b2o20b2o!

So I'll be drawing, not sketch, draw.

AFTERWORD. P.S. I managed to make the glider turn 90 degrees on its own. All that's left is to remove... After the turn, make sure all the MDG-seeds are planted.
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Sober ABC, what device are you using, and if it is a computer, what operating system? We can probably find a program which you can run that produces interesting results.
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I have access to a laptop. But in the main from the mobile app I sit on the forum.
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If you have a laptop, that’s great - you should be able to run a search program!
I still need to know the operating system - is it Windows, Linux, or something else?
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There are also things you can do without a search program:

1. Combine objects that already exist. For example, the way I found Raucci's p38 was by looking through a database called jslife and seeing what worked with the traffic stop that was found a few months earlier. Similarly, the p15 glider gun and p16 glider gun were simply found by combining known components, and 66P62 was another application of a phase-shifting reaction that was known on a p7 and p12 but was forgotten for years.

2. Create databases. Existing databases include most common active regions, most common catalysts, all soups that fit within 6×6, all combinations of an R, a block/blinker, and another block/blinker, etc. While this requires coding, I wouldn't call it a search. There are probably other useful databases that could be created; I mentioned "catalysts except they shift by one cell" in the spaceship discussion thread two hours ago, or you could do "what are the most common ways for a beehive to form, by percentage" (e.g. alone, honey farm, teardrop, butterfly, etc.) or "most likely ways for a block to survive being hit by a random soup".

3. Glider syntheses, while they require experience, are mostly manual rather than via search.
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Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196
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PK22 wrote: August 3rd, 2025, 8:29 am If you have a laptop, that’s great - you should be able to run a search program!
I still need to know the operating system - is it Windows, Linux, or something else?
Windows 10 Pro(x64) is not activated. And because of that, it's slow... Although the laptop has weak hardware. Plus, the control panel buttons have been changed. And I need 1-1.5 hours to find the characteristics.

I remembered! The back of the laptop! The Asus x540n.
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Ok, it sounds like you have Windows 10, and x64 architecture. That's excellent - it means you can run apgsearch!
You can download a precompiled version using this link, and then run the .exe file. (Windows will probably tell you that "Running this app might put your PC at risk", but it's fine - just click "More info", then "Run anyway".
I would test it first by entering 10000000 as the number of soups, '#anon' as the payosha256 key, and 4 (or however many cores your CPU has) as the number of threads to use.
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x = 156, y = 256, rule = B3/S23
27$59bo$45b5o$45b5o9bo$45b5o$45b5o9bo$44b6o$44b6o9bo8$59bobobo$43bob5o
$43bob5o9bo3bo$43bob5o$43bob5o13bo$43b7o$43b7o11bo2$59bobobo6$59bobob
o$43b2ob4o$43b2ob4o13bo$43b2ob4o$43b2ob4o9bobobo$43b7o$43b7o13bo2$59b
obobo7$59bo3bo$44b3ob2o$44b3ob2o9bo3bo$44b3ob2o$44b3ob2o9bobobo$44b6o
$44b6o13bo2$63bo5$60bobobo$44b4obo$44b6o10bo$44b6o$44b6o10bobobo$46b2o
bo$44b6o14bo2$60bobobo9$60bobobo$44b6o$44b5o11bo$44b6o$44b6o10bobobo$
44b6o$46b3o11bo3bo2$60bobobo11$60bobobo$44b5o$44b4obo14bo$44b6o$44b6o
14bo$44b5o$44b4obo14bo2$64bo13$60bobobo$44b6o$44b6o10bo3bo$44b6o$44b4o
bo10bobobo$44b3obo$44b4obo10bo3bo2$60bobobo12$60bobobo$44b6o$44b6o10b
o3bo$44b5o$44b4obo10bobobo$44b3ob2o$44b2ob3o14bo2$60bobobo9$43b8o9bo3b
obobo14bobobo5bo$43bo6bo$43bo6bo9bo3bo3bo4bobobo5bo3bo5bo$43bo6bo$43b
o6bo9bo3bo3bo14bo3bo5bo$43bo6bo$43bo6bo9bo3bo3bo4bobobo5bo3bo5bo$43b8o
$60bo3bobobo14bobobo2bo2bo9$60bobobo$44b6o$44b6o10bo3bo$44b6o$44b6o10b
o3bo$44b6o$44b6o10bo3bo2$60bobobo!

Yeah, I've encountered this "too old or powerful program." I've installed AutoCAD only as an administrator. But I don't want to rush - mathematics is timeless. So I'll play with numbers for my own needs. In a 6x6 square, I'll manually encrypt all 10 numbers.

From 5 to 116 generations. The symbol of nine has the shortest life. The number 7 has the oldest life. But the question is different! Micro puzzle - what have I encoded here related to tic-tac-toe?

60=90

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x = 30, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
12o$5ob6o11b3ob3o$12o11bobobobo$12o11b3obobo$12o13bobobo$2b3ob6o11b3o
b3o!
Life time: 4(пустота, точка-запятая), 5(0,9), 6(4,5), 7(3), 11(2), 17(8), 32(1), 47(6), 116(7).
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Re: Absolutely Useless Patterns Not Worthy Of Patterns Thread

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Sober ABC wrote: May 9th, 2025, 1:08 am
The most difficult thing is that it takes at least six alphabetic scales to create the original spiral hieroglyphs.
Alphabets and numbers are protected by copyright.

Sober ABC wrote: August 4th, 2025, 11:45 pm

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x = 156, y = 256, rule = B3/S23
27$59bo$45b5o$45b5o9bo$45b5o$45b5o9bo$44b6o$44b6o9bo8$59bobobo$43bob5o
$43bob5o9bo3bo$43bob5o$43bob5o13bo$43b7o$43b7o11bo2$59bobobo6$59bobob
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obobo7$59bo3bo$44b3ob2o$44b3ob2o9bo3bo$44b3ob2o$44b3ob2o9bobobo$44b6o
$44b6o13bo2$63bo5$60bobobo$44b4obo$44b6o10bo$44b6o$44b6o10bobobo$46b2o
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44b6o$46b3o11bo3bo2$60bobobo11$60bobobo$44b5o$44b4obo14bo$44b6o$44b6o
14bo$44b5o$44b4obo14bo2$64bo13$60bobobo$44b6o$44b6o10bo3bo$44b6o$44b4o
bo10bobobo$44b3obo$44b4obo10bo3bo2$60bobobo12$60bobobo$44b6o$44b6o10b
o3bo$44b5o$44b4obo10bobobo$44b3ob2o$44b2ob3o14bo2$60bobobo9$43b8o9bo3b
obobo14bobobo5bo$43bo6bo$43bo6bo9bo3bo3bo4bobobo5bo3bo5bo$43bo6bo$43b
o6bo9bo3bo3bo14bo3bo5bo$43bo6bo$43bo6bo9bo3bo3bo4bobobo5bo3bo5bo$43b8o
$60bo3bobobo14bobobo2bo2bo9$60bobobo$44b6o$44b6o10bo3bo$44b6o$44b6o10b
o3bo$44b6o$44b6o10bo3bo2$60bobobo!
In principle, the average font is 5x5, but the letter Ё is the largest... That's fine. Let there be a space between the letters, but no space between the numbers.
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x = 141, y = 33, rule = B3/S23


7$3b6ob6ob7ob7ob6ob12ob12o$3b6ob6ob7ob7ob13ob4ob13o$3b6ob6ob7ob7ob31o
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2o3bo2bobobo2bobo3b2o3bob2o3bo7b2o5bo4b2obobobobo2bo4b2ob2o2bo2b2o$4b
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2o2b2obo3b2o!
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otismo wrote: May 31st, 2025, 12:03 pm
noteworthy Gosper-Glider-Gun-Life-Integer-Synthesis-Eric-Angelini

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Re: Sober ABC's thread

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PK22 wrote: August 4th, 2025, 4:13 am Ok, it sounds like you have Windows 10, and x64 architecture. That's excellent - it means you can run apgsearch!
You can download a precompiled version using this link, and then run the .exe file. (Windows will probably tell you that "Running this app might put your PC at risk", but it's fine - just click "More info", then "Run anyway".
I would test it first by entering 10000000 as the number of soups, '#anon' as the payosha256 key, and 4 (or however many cores your CPU has) as the number of threads to use.
Installiert, gestartet. Und wie sehen Sie die entdeckten Muster des linearen Wachstums? Wie kann man sie sehen?
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