Small diagonal shave off of guntrue_9760 that unfortunately doesn't shrink the Bounding Box. Posting here if said gun is eventually reduced (EDIT: realized that the tub is part of the gun, showcasing another issue with filling the BB with random still-lifes is that it becomes unclear what is and isn't part of the gun)
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x = 73, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
7bob2o$7b2obo2$5b5o4b2o$4bo4bo5bo$3bo2bo8bob2ob2obo$3bob2o9bobobob2o$
2obo5bo7bo$bobo4bobo$o2b2o2bo2bo14b2o9b2o$2o6b2o15bo10b2o$23bobo4b2o$
23b2o4bobo2b4o$29bobobo4bo$30bobob4o$32bobobo5b2o$15b3o13bobo8bo$13b2o
b2o13bo8bobo$13b2o17bo7b2o$12b3o4b2o$11b2o6bob2o8bobo$10b2o9bo9b2o22b
2o$4b2o8b2o9bo9b2o18bo2bobo$4b2o7bobo8b2obo6b2o21b2ob3o$26b2o4b3o17b2o
9bo$14bo17b2o18b2o3b2ob3o$15bo13b2ob2o23b2obo$13bobo13b3o$10bobobo38b
2o$9b4obobo35bo2bo$8bo4bobobo34bobo3bo$9b4o2bobo4b2o25bo3bo3bobo$15b2o
4bobo26bo7bo$9b2o10bo15b2o9b3o$9b2o9b2o14bo2bo2b2o10b2o6bo$36bobo4bo10b
2o4b3o$29bo7bo5bob2o12bo$23b2obobobo9b2obobo13b2o$23bob2ob2obo8bo2bo2b
o2b2o$31bo5bo4bo2b2o3bo4b2o$31b2o4b5o5b3o5b2o$47bo$39b2obo$39bob2o$35b
2o$34b3o$33bob2o21b3o$32bobo36b2o$32bo2bo23b2o7b2o2bo$33b2o23bobob2o3b
2ob2o$39b2o13bo3bo3bo4b2o$25b2ob2o8bo2bo12b2o6bo4b2o$25b2obo10b2o17bo
2bo5b2ob2o$28bo29bo2bo6b2o2bo$28b3o4b2o13b2o7b2o10b2o$26b2o3bo3b2o12b
obo12b2o$25bo2b4o17bo$25b2obo15b2o2b2o13bo3bo$26bo2b3o12bobo15bo4bo$26b
o5bo13bob2o11bobobo$27b5o14b2obo10bobobo$29bo28bo4bo$42bo15bo3bo$43bo
$41b3o16b2o!
Shifting topic to the slightly related issue that some guns in Catagolue are submitted in the following form:
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#current submission for guntrue_9760
x = 73, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
7bob2o8b2o11bo18b2o$bo5b2obo8bo2bo8bobo9b2o5bobo18bo$obo18b2o9bobo8bo
7bo10bob2o4bobo$2o3b5o4b2o13bo3bo11bo11b2o3b2obo5bo$4bo4bo5bo12bobo6b
o6b2o5bo6bo9b3o$3bo2bo8bob2ob2obo5bobo4bobo12b3o3bo10bo$3bob2o9bobobo
b2o6bo5b2o16bo3b3o$2obo5bo7bo35bo6bo$bobo4bobo29b2o6bo4b2o$o2b2o2bo2b
o14b2o9b2o2bo6bobo15bo3b2o$2o6b2o15bo10b2o3bo4bobo10b2o3bobo2bo2bo$23b
obo4b2o8b2o4bo6b2o5bo3bobo4b2o$4b2o17b2o4bobo2b4o7b2o3bobobo2b3o5bo$4b
obo22bobobo4bo11b2o5bo10b2o$5b2o23bobobobobo29bobo$32bobob2o4b2o25b2o
$3bo27bobo8bo$2bobo11bo15bo7bobo5b2o9b2o$bo2bo10b3o12b2o8b2o6bo2bo6bo
2bo5b2obo$2b2o10b5o10b3o18b2o7b2o3bobob2obo$13b2o3b2o8b5o31b2o5bo$12b
3o3b3o6b2o3b2o13b2o6b2o14b2o$4b2o7b2o3b2o6b3o3b3o11bo2bo5bo2bobo$4b2o
8b5o8b2o3b2o12bobo8b2ob3o2b2o$15b3o10b5o14bo4b2o9bo2bo$15b2o12b3o20b2o
3b2ob3o3bob2o$2bo11bo15bo26b2obo6bobo$bobo9bobo54b2o$bo2bo4b2obobo38b
2o16bo$2b2o4bobobobobo30bo4bo2bo8bo5bo$8bo4bobobo30bo3bobo3bo4bobo4b2o
$9b4o2bobo4b2o22b3o4bo3bobo2bobo$3b2o10b2o4bobo34bo4bo$3bobo3b2o10bo15b
2o27b2ob2o$5bo3b2o9b2o14bo2bo2b2o10b2o6bo3b2obobo$5b2o29bobo4bo10b2o4b
3o8bo$15b2o12bo7bo5bob2o12bo11b2o$2bo12bo2bo4b2obobobo9b2obobo13b2o4b
2o$bobo13b2o4bob2ob2obo8bo2bo2bo2b2o13bobo$2bo4bo4bo18bo5bo4bo2b2o3bo
4b2o6bobo$5b3o3bobo6bo10b2o4b5o5b3o5b2o7bo$4bo5bobo6bobo25bo19bo$4b2o
4bo9b2o3b2o9bob2o26bobo$9b2o3b2o9bo10b2obo27bobo$13bobo10bo15bo25b2o$
13bo13bo13bobo$5b2o5b2o12b2o5b2o7bo15b3o$6bo13bo11b3o33bo2b2o$2o3bo13b
obo9bob2o21bo5bo5b2o2bo$bo3bobo5b2o3bobo9bobo23bo5bo4b5o$o5b2o5bo3bob
o10bo2bo21bo6bo$obo8bobo4bo12b2o21b2o$b2o7bobo24b2o17bob3o6b5o$11bo11b
2ob2o8bo2bo14b2o12b2o2bo$4bo7b3obo6b2obo10b2o11b2o16bo2b2o$3bobo8bob3o
7bo22bobo12b2o$3b2o14bo6b3o4b2o14bo$18bobo3b2o3bo3b2o13b2o13bo3bo$19b
o3bo2b4o23bo8bo4bo$4bo18b2obo15b2o8bobo6bobobo$2b3o13bo5bo2b3o12bobo7b
2o6bobobo6b2o$bo8b2o4b3o5bo5bo13bo13bo4bo6bobo$2bo7bobo2bo9b5o8bo5b2o
12bo3bo4bobo$b2o8b2o3bo10bo11bo9bob2o14b2o$15b2o20b3o9b2obo7b2o!
This pointless densification of the Bounding Box of some guns is a significant problem. It is not helpful to viewers as it obscures the gun's design, creates confusion over what parts of the pattern are actually useful in the gun's design, it's inconsistent application across guns is visually distracting, and it carries the risk of incorporating parts which themselves are not useful to the gun in the designs of reductions.
This topic has received minor discussion in the Catagolue thread about other guns, but posting here for posterity. Let me know if it's off-topic here.
Lastly, to whoever submits these versions, please stop.
EDIT 2: Guntrue_9360 in Catagolue is not the smallest, the following form is smaller.
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x = 53, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
19b2o4b2o$19bobo2bobo$21b4o$19bo2b2o2bo$19bo2b2o2bo$21bo2bo$29b3o$28b
o$28bo3bo$28bo2bobo$6b2o22bobo2bo$7bo13b3o7bo3bo$7bobo11bo2bo10bo$8b2o
7bo6b2o6b3o$3bo12b3o2bob2o$3b3o9b2ob3o2b2o$6bo9bob5o$5b2o10b5o$18b3o2$
7b3o$26b2o$26bo$7b3o17b3o$29bo$2bo11bo$bobo9bobo$bo2bob2ob2obo2bo$2ob
obobobobobob2o$bo2b2obobob2o2bo$bo4b2ob2o4bo$2b3o7b3o26bo$4bob2ob2obo
26b3o$5bobobobo5bo20bo$17bo20b2o$16b3o$24b2o21b2o$24bobo20bobo$16b3o3b
o3bo22bo$17bo4b4o15bo7bob2o$17bo23b3o2b2obobo$17bo24b2o2b2obobo$17bo4b
4o15bo7bob2o$16b3o3bo3bo3b2o10bo3b4o2bo$24bobo2bobo10bo3bo3b2o$24b2o3b
o18b2o$16b3o9b2o5bo13bo$17bo16bo12bo$17bo16b3o10b2o!
EDIT 3: (Back to the main point) If anyone finds any "guntrue_n" which has this issue, please report to Catagolue Discussion Thread
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.
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