Post without using the letter E

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Post without using the letter E

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This topic's goal is communication without using that particularly common glyph which occurs fifth in Latin script, or “5th in Latin ABCs”.

Additional protocols:
  1. Forum tags ([b], [i], [u], ...) may contain this glyph.
  2. An individual's forum alias within a quotation tag or a URL within a URL tag may contain this glyph.
  3. Symbols put automatically within a post by phpBB (including that automatic 3-symbol titular addition) may contain this glyph.
  4. CA configurations must not contain this glyph. This protocol has no application to LV scripts, which may contain that glyph.
  5. This topic’s titular writing may contain it, but only if it’s from this topic’s original post with or without that automatic phpBB addition.
  6. No glyph substitution may occur that would bypass this topic's primary glyph-omission policy.
  7. Only discuss CA, math, comp sci, and programming. Nobody wants this to turn into a Random Posts.
  8. Naturally, all forum protocols still apply. This is including 3a, 4, and 5b.
If a mod shuts down this topic, thumbs up if that last post follows this topic’s protocols too, similar to Lying Topic’s last post.

Modification by Matthias: I had to apply various clarifications to this post. Mods will not shut it down as long as it's on-topic. Stay mindful of what you say, and try to put a bit of work into your posts.
Last edited by hotcrystal0 on February 21st, 2025, 11:16 pm, edited 16 times in total.
115 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Post without using a particular glyph

Post by Banananananan »

This is a random string from 1 of my laws, which is a gun utilizing a duplicator.

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#R B2n3ai4cr7/S1-c2-c3-cjknqy4a
24$55bo$55bo30bo6b2o$47b2o6bo30bo6b2o$47b2o6bo30bo$86bo!
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Re: Post without using a particular glyph

Post by islptng »

Can I post with OCA things?

But now I can't post with a 5th color! It's a limit!
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Re: Post without using a particular glyph

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P16 gun:

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#R Stopbox
3.3B$3.BAB$3.3B2$3B4.B$BAB3.BAB$3B4.B!
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Re: Post without using a particular glyph

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Should I ban this polyomino in this topic?

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#R B3/S23
b2o$2b2o$3o!
115 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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hotcrystal0 wrote: February 15th, 2025, 4:30 pm Should I ban this polyomino in this topic?

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#R B3/S23
b2o$2b2o$3o!
No. This isn't violating this topic's protocols, although talking about it would be violating this protocol.
Last edited by b-engine on February 18th, 2025, 4:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
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This topic got out of hand much too quickly, which is why such topics should focus strictly on CA, math, CS, and programming discussion. Additionally, you should try to avoid constructing posts using invalid word and glyph substitutions or bad grammar, as us mods will find it a fair bit more difficult to do our jobs.

I also don't want this topic to fill up with a bunch of trivial posts that don't honor what is obviously a difficult conundrum: communication without a common symbol. I think such trivial posts simply fail to spark our imagination in a satisfying way, making for a dull activity. Basically, try to build your post so that it sounds kind of natural and flows fairly smoothly. And as always, stay on topic.

Annoyingly, I had to scrub this topic of many basic violations, which is a task I don't wish to do again. I truly do not want to apply a lock to this topic, but I'm willing to do so if it quickly jumps back into off-topic and/or lazily simplistic posting.
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This particular "snark" from 1 of my CA laws has absurdly long RT of 20, any ship chains of RT <= 19 would vanish:

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x = 38, y = 7, rule = Stopbox
36.B$35.BAB$36.B2$2B7.3B7.3B7.3B3.3B$BA7.BA8.BA8.BA4.BAB$2B7.3B7.3B7.
3B3.3B!
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A p76 oscillator in a law by QuickCharlatan:

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#R B3-cnqy4$5kr6n7c/S2-i3-ay4$inrtyz5c$jn6cin78
9bo16b2o$7b4o14bo2bo$5bo4b2o13bo2bo2bo$5b2o3bo14b2ob4o$7b3o17b4o$8bo
18b3o15$3b2o$3b2o$5b2o$5b2o24b2o$5bo25b2o$2o3bo24bobo2b2o$o4bo25b2o3bo
$bo2bo27b2ob2o$b3o29b3o$34bo!
Modification: cut out bad "law" word.

Modification 2: did a swap, non-good glyphs now dollar signs. Modify manually.
Last edited by d/dx on February 17th, 2025, 7:15 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Post without using a particular glyph

Post by Sokwe »

Both posts prior to this could avoid using that fifth glyph by modifying CA "law" constructions, as shown in prior posts in this topic. Kindly modify your posts to conform with topic protocol 4.
d/dx wrote: February 17th, 2025, 5:47 am Modification: cut out bad "law" word.
Your CA "law" still contains Latin glyph #5. You can construct it in a way that avoids this, although you must apply data from this chart.
d/dx wrote: February 17th, 2025, 5:47 am Modification 2: did a swap, non-good glyphs now dollar signs. Modify manually.
Topic protocol 6 says no glyph substitutions. You can still modify your CA "law" to work without including Latin glyph #5. Again, apply data from this chart. Think about transitions in this CA configuration for inspiration:

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#R B2-acikn/S
bo$o!
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It is an option to adjust this lawstring to skip all $ symbols. A lawful way is to apply '-' on rulings with that fifth glyph.

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#R B3-cnqy4-ackijnqrtwyz5kr6n7c/S2-i3-ay4-ackjqw5-aikqry6cin78
9bo16b2o$7b4o14bo2bo$5bo4b2o13bo2bo2bo$5b2o3bo14b2ob4o$7b3o17b4o$8bo
18b3o15$3b2o$3b2o$5b2o$5b2o24b2o$5bo25b2o$2o3bo24bobo2b2o$o4bo25b2o3bo
$bo2bo27b2ob2o$b3o29b3o$34bo!
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Re: Post without using 5th in Latin ABCs

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Naming proposal for this topic: "Post without our fifth symbol".
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