Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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I saved an additional 3 columns in the p57 by reducing the non-compound domino sparker using LLS. I also confirmed with LLS that any shorter solutions (if they exist) would make the overall gun taller. I was not able to reduce the bounding box of the compound p3, but I changed its shape a little to give more room near the output stream:

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x = 50, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
30b2o$30b2o9b2obo$42bob3o$38b2o2bo4bo$38b3obo3bobo$38bo2bo3bo2bo$40bo
4bobo$43bobob2o$27bo2b2o7b2o5bo2bo$26bo3bobo9bobob4o$34bo4bob3o2bo$11b
2obo10bo2bobobo6bo3bo2bob2o$11bob4o7bo3bobo9bo3bo2bobo$8b2obo5bo6bob2o
bobobo3bo2b3ob2obo$8bobob5o7b2o5bo3bobo2b3ob2ob2o$5bo4bobobo9b2o6b2o6b
o8bo$4bobo2bobo2bo24bo3bo2b2obo$4bobo2bo3bo6b2o6b2o8bob2o2bo2b2o$3b2ob
2obob3o2bobo3bo5b2o10bobob2o$2bo8b3o2bo3bobobob2obo6b2o4bobo$bobob2ob
2o3bo9bobo3bo5bo5bo2bo$bobobo4bo3bo6bobobo2bo6bob2o2bobo$2obobo3b4obo
4bo14b2obo4bo$3b5o2b2o9bobo3bo9bo$4bobobob2o2bo7b2o2bo10b2o$b2o3bobo$o
2b2obob5obobo$bo5bo8bo$2b4obo2b6o4b2o$5bobobo10b4o$2b2o3b2obo2bob3o3b
2obo$2bob3o2bobobo9b2o$4bo3b2o5bobobo$4bob2obo2b4o4bo$3b2obo3b2obo2bo
3bo$2bo2bo8bob7o$3bobob2o4bo2bo4b2o$4b4o3b2o3b4o$10bobobobobob2o$2b6o
2b2ob2obo7bo$2bo4bo3bo4bob5obobo$4bo6b5o7bo2b3o$3b2o5bo4bob2ob4o$8bo3b
o3bobobo2bo13bo$7bobobobo4bobo2bobo12bo$7b2o3b2o4b2o4b2o10b3o!
This latter modification was enough to pull the tremi-Snark in by one diagonal in the p171 gun:

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x = 52, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$7bob2o9b2o$5b3obo$4bo4bo2bo$3bobo3bobob2o$3bo2bo3bo$4bobo4b2o$3b
2obobo$2bo2bob2o2b2o$2b3o2bob3o$5bobo2bobo$2b2obo6bo24bob2o$2bobo2bobo
2b2o10bo10b4obo$4bob2obo2b2o8bobo9bo5bob2o$3b2obo2bo2b2o6b3o4bo7b2ob2o
bobo$2bo6bo2b2o6b2o3b3o9bobobo4bo$2bob2o6bo8b2o4b2o8bo4bo2bobo$3b2o2bo
bo3bo8b3o3b2o6b2o2bobo2bobo$6b2obob2o9bo4b3o6b2o2bob4ob2o$7bobob5o9bob
o8b2o2bobo6bo$7bo2bo2bo2bo8bo10b2o2bob2ob2obobo$8bobo2b2obo20bo5bob2ob
obo$9bo4bob2o19bobo2bobo3bob2o$14bo23bob2ob2o2bo$13b2o22b2obo2bo2b2o$
37bobo3bobobob2o$35b3ob5ob4o2bo$35bo2bo5bo5bo$36b6o2bob4o$42bobobo$34b
3obobo2b2o3b2o$34bo2b2obo4b3obo$11bo20b3obobob2ob2o2bo$11b3o18bobob2ob
2obob2obo$14bo9bo6bobobo5bo5b2o$13b2o7b2o8b2o2b2o8bo2bo$23b2o3b3o5b2o
8bobo$4b2o24bob2o2bo2b2ob4obo$3bobo22b3o2bobobobob3o$3bo22b4o3bobob2o
5b6o$2obo7bo12bo4b7o5bo2bo4bo$bobob2o2b3o12bo11b5o6bo$bobob2o2b2o13bo
3b4ob2obo10b2o$2obo7bo16bo2bobobo3b2ob2o$o2b4o3bo10b2o3bobo2bobo4bo5bo
$b2o3bo3bo10bobo2b2o4b2o4b2o3b2o$3b2o18bo$3bo13bo5b2o$5bo12bo$4b2o10b
3o!
Edit (Feb. 7): I'm still messing around with my little JLS-to-LLS script. Here is a 3-column reduction to the p28 gun found with LLS:

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x = 31, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$3bo11b2o$3b3o21b2o$6bo20bobo$5bo18bo4bo$5bo3bo5bo8bob2ob2o$9bo5b
2o7bo3bo$6bobo5bo2bo6bobobo$6b2o8b3o4b2ob2o$6b2o6b3o7b2o$4bo2bo6b3o6bo
3b3o$bo2bob2o6bobo6b2obo2bo$b3o3bo6b3o6bo2bo$5b2o7b3o6b2o$3b2ob2o4b3o
8b2o$2bobobo6bo2bo5bobo$2bo3bo7b2o5bo$2ob2obo8bo5bo3bo$bo4bo18bo$bobo
7b2o11bo$2b2o8bo7bo4b3o$9b3o9bo5bo$9bo9b3o!
It might be possible to remove more columns on the left side, but I'm doubtful. On the right side any p4 reduction in columns would make the gun taller.

Edit 2 (Feb. 7): Here's a very slight reduction to the p552 gun (one row shorter, but also one column wider):

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x = 46, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
6bo$6bobo7bo$4bo4bo4b5o$o2bob4obo2bo5bo$4obo2bob4ob2obo$5bo2bo6bob2o$
2b2obo2bobo2bo2bo$o2bob2obo9bo24b2o$2obo5b2o3b2o2bo24b2o$3bo6b5o2bo$3b
2o22bo3b2o$19b2o4b2obob3o11b2o$19b2o4bo4b3o11b2o$10b3o12bo3bo$26b3o$
14bo$3b2o6bo2bo11b3o$3b2obo5bobo10bo3bo$7bo17bo4b3o11b2o$4bo20b2obob3o
11b2o$5bob2o18bo3b2o$7b2o12bo$22bo20b2o$20b3o20b2o!
Here is the previous form for reference:

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x = 45, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
22b2o9bob2ob2obo$20bo3bob2o3b4obobob2o$3bo16bobobobobobo5bo$2bobo13b2o
b2obobob2ob2ob2o2b4o$2bobo2b2o7bo5bobo6bobo2bo4bo$b2obobobo7b2o4bobo3b
2o5b3o2bo$o3b2o8bo4bo3b2o4b4o3b3o$2obo4bo2bo2bo2bo3b2o2b2o$bob4o35b2o$
bo6b2o3b2ob2o24b2o$2bobo4b5o$b2ob2o20bo3b2o$18b2o4b2obob3o11b2o$18b2o
4bo4b3o11b2o$9b3o12bo3bo$25b3o$13bo$2b2o6bo2bo11b3o$2b2obo5bobo10bo3bo
$6bo17bo4b3o11b2o$3bo20b2obob3o11b2o$4bob2o18bo3b2o$6b2o12bo$21bo20b2o
$19b3o20b2o!
There may be smaller solutions. I know at least that by only replacing the p4 with another p4, a height-19 solution is impossible, a height-21 solution would require a width greater than 50, and a height-22 solution would require a width greater than 45, so there are no solutions in a 1000-cell bounding box.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Ugly reduction of gun_29:

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x = 100, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
22.A$20.3A4.2A$19.A3.2A2.A2.2A$20.3A2.A.A.2A.A$22.A.A.A.A4.A$22.2BA.A
.B.3A$23.A2BAB.2A$17.4B.B.2A3B$16.12B.2A$14.10B5.2A$13.13B16.A$12.14B
.B14.3A$7.AB3.3B2A10B2A5.A10.A$6.A.A6B2A3B2A5B2A2.A2.3A7.2A$7.A8BA2BA
8B3.3A3.A6.6B$8.B.7B2A9B6.3A9.B2A4B$12.5B2ABABA2B6.2A.A4.2A3.3B2A6B$
13.4B2A3BA2B4.A2.A.A4.2AB.13B$13.6B4A3B3.2A2.B2A.B3A2.2B2A8B15.2B$14.
6BA6B7.2A2B.A2.3B3A7B14.4B$12.4B2A10B8.A.2A2.4BA7B13.B.7B4.2A$11.5B2A
6B.4B7.A.A4.10B13.2A3B3A2B3.B2A2B$11.9B2A2B2.4B5.2A2.A5.7B14.2A3BABA
3B3.4B$13.BA3B2ABAB4.4B7.2A5.8B14.2B.A13B.BA4.A$4.A6.2B8A2B5.4B12.10B
16.A4B2A8BA.A2.BAB$4.3A4.BAB2A3BAB8.4B11.6B.4B15.3BAB2A9BA4.AB$7.A2.
2B2A9B7.4B9.6B3.4B13.A3B3A5B2AB.B4.2BABA$6.2A2.6B2A5B8.4B4.B2.3BA3B4.
4B11.A2BA9B2A8.A.2AB.2A$6.10B2A4B10.4B.7BABA2B5.4B9.BA4B2A9B8.6A.A$8.
5BA6B13.11BABA2B6.4B8.2BABAB2A9B9.2B4.A$8.3B4A6B13.11BA3B7.4B7.5BABA
9B11.4A$9.2BA3B2A4B14.12B.B2A6.4B4.8B3A7B11.BA.B$9.2BABAB2A5B14.10B2.
BA.A.2A3.4B3.8BABA6B12.BA.2A$6.9B2A7B.B3.2A6.7B7.A.2A4.4B.4B2A4B2A6B
13.A3B$6.8BA2BA8BA2.A.A6.3BA2B7.A8.4B.2BA2BA11B15.BA$5.2A5B2A3B2A6BA.
A.A.A7.ABAB7.2A4.2A3.4B.2ABA3B.8B4.B11.BA$5.2A10B2A3B3.BA2.A.2A7.2A2B
5.A2.2A.A.AB3.5BA6B.6B.3B2AB8.BA.A$6.B.14B7.A3.B7.4B4.2A2.A.A.3A3.4BA
BA4B.9BAB2A2.B5.B2A$8.13B9.5A7.4B7.A.BA.BAB3.4B2A2B.7B.7B.2B2A4B$3.2A
5.10B5.2A.A.A2.2A2.A5.4B5.2A.A.2A.A.9B2.2ABA9B.4BABA3B$3.2A.12B7.A.2A
.A3.B3A6.4B3.A2.ABA.A.A.BA2B.2B4.B2A3B.6B.6BA3B$5.3B2A.B.4B12.A3.2B8.
4BAB3.2A4.A.B2A.A.4B4.B4.8B.3BAB2A$3.2A.BA2BA15.3A4.A.2A.A4.5B2A4.4A.
A.B.2A.B2AB9.11BA2BA2B$.3A.B.A.A2B14.A4.5A.2A3.5B2A2B3.A2.A.3B2A3.2A
10.6B2A4B2A4B$A4.A.A.A.A19.3A9.9B3.A.A.2A.2A15.6BABA8B$.A.2A.A.A2.3A
18.B10.10B3.A.A.A2B4.4A7.7B3A8B$2.2A2.A2.2A3.A10.2A7.2B6.12B4.A.4B2.A
3.A6.9BABA5B$5.2A4.3A12.A5.5B4.9B.4B3.2A2.2BA2.A9.9B2ABABA2B$11.A14.A
.AB.6B2.4B2A3B4.3BA5.3A.3A9.9B2A4BAB$27.2AB.11BA2BA2B5.3BA5.B.A13.2A
9BA2BA$29.14B2A2B7.3AB6.2A9.B.B2A5B3A3BA$29.B2A4BA9B9.4B6.A8.A9B2ABA
3B$29.B2A3B2A11B8.4B4.A8.A.A8B2A4BA$29.6BABA3B5.2A9.4B3.2A8.AB.13BA.
2B$30.10B6.A11.4B15.4B3.3BABA3B2A$11.2B17.11B6.3A9.4B14.2B2AB3.2B3A3B
2A$10.4B16.7B.4B7.A10.BABA15.2A4.7B.B$8.B.7B4.2A8.5B3.4B18.B2AB23.4B$
7.2A8B3.B2A2B6.4B5.4B18.A3B23.2B$7.2A9B3.4B7.B8.4B9.2A7.4B$8.2B.14B.B
A8.2A4.4B9.A8.4B$11.9B3A3BA.A8.A5.4B8.A.2A6.4B$11.8BA2BA4BA8.A7.4B8.A
2B.A5.4B$10.8BA3BA2B.B9.2A7.4B9.3BA5.3BA$9.8BA2BA3B13.B.A6.4B8.2A.2BA
4.ABAB$8.9BA7B9.3A.2AB6.4B9.2A.2B4.2A2B$8.9B3A5B9.A2.3A2.2A4.4B7.B2A.
2A5.4B$8.17B6.A3.A2.4B.A5.4B7.2A.2B6.4B$6.2A16B7.4A4.B2A.A.A4.4B6.BA
3BA6.4B$6.2A15B15.2A.2A.A.A4.4B4.B.B.ABAB6.4B$5.18B10.2A3.2B3A.A2.A4.
4B3.BAB2.BA8.2BAB$6.17B9.B2AB.AB.A.B.4A5.4B2.BAB13.2B2A$7.3B2A2B.8B4.
B4.4B.A.3A.A4.2A4.8B14.2A2B$5.4BA2BA2B.6B.6B4.2B.2B2A.A.A.3A2.A4.B2A
5B14.4B$5.5BABA2B.13B2.9B.A.AB.A.2A6.BA5B15.4B$5.6BAB.7B.7B.BA6B3.A2B
.BA.A6.3B3A3B15.4B$3.2AB.5B2.13B.2BABA6B3.ABA.A.A5.5BA4B16.4B$2.A.AB.
4B3.6B.6B.2BA2BA6B3.2B.A.2A3.4B.6B17.3BA$2.A12.B4.8B.2B2A3B.4B3.2A6.
4B3.3B.B2A16.3BA$.2A17.17B.BABA9.4B5.B2.BA.A16.3AB$20.18B.B2AB7.4B12.
A17.4B$20.15B2A3.A3B5.4B13.2A17.4B$19.16B2A4.4B3.4B9.A24.4B$18.17B7.
4B.4B8.3A25.4B$18.5B3A9B8.7B8.A29.4B$18.7BA9B9.5B9.2A29.BABA$19.3BA2B
A8B9.6B7.4B30.B2AB$16.B.2BA3BA8B9.4B2A4B2.A.2A33.A3B$15.A4BA2BA8B9.4B
A2BA2B.A3B.AB33.4B$14.A.A3B3A9B10.3BABA4BA2B2AB35.4B$15.AB.14B.2B8.3B
AB4.A3.A37.4B$18.4B3.9B2A5.5B5.4BAB38.4B$18.2B2AB3.8B2A5.2A7.AB2ABA
40.3BA$20.2A4.7B.B7.A7.BAB44.ABA$29.4B6.3A9.A46.2A$30.2B7.A59.B!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Here's a minor reduction to gun_14 from 110x84 (9240-cell BB) to 108x83 (8964-cell BB) by implementing the reduced p4 sparker as found in the new p28 gun engine (And with bonus reduction potential from the JLS to LLS tool as well!)

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x = 108, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
26b2o3b2o4b2o$26bo4bo6bo15b2o$19bo7b3obo6bobo13b2o21bo11b2o$18bob2o7bo
bob2o4b3ob2o21b2o9bo12bo5bobo$14b2o6b2o6bob2o7b2obo21bobo8b3o7b2obob2o
bob2o2bo$14bo16bo3bo5b2o20bo4bo6b2o2b2obobo5bo2bobo3b3o$15b3ob4obo3b3o
b4o12bo14bob2ob2o5b2o2b3o2bobo4bobo2b2o$17b2o4b2obob2o14bo3bo14bo3bo
18b6o2bobob2o$15b2obo4b7o2b2o10b2o2bo5bo8bobobo7b2o14bo2bobo3bo$14bo2b
obo5b3o4b2o4b2o4b3o6b3o6b2ob2o9bo19b2o2bo$14b2o2bo19bobo4b2o5b5o6b2o
11bobo14bo6bob2o$36bobo2bo3b2o3b3o3b2o4bo3b3o8b2o15b2ob4obo$28bo7b2obo
bo4bo3b3o3b3o3b2obo2bo16b3o9bobobo2bo$27b3o9bob2obobo4b2o3b3o3bo2bo18b
o3bo8bobo2b3o$26b5o8bo3b3o6b5o5b2o19bo5bo8bob2o$4b2o11b2o6b2o3b2o8b3o
2bobo5b3o6b2o20bo3bo10bo2bo$5bo11b2o7b5o12bobo2bo5bo6bobo14bo6b3o13b2o
$3bo23b3o7bo4b2obob2o11bo15b2o$3b5ob2o3b2o12bo9bo3bo2bo14bo3bo12b2o15b
2o$o6bobo4bo21b3o5b2o18bo29bo$5o5b3obo35b2o6bo4bo17bo13b3o$4bo7bobob2o
5b2o4b3ob2o16bo7bo4b3o14b6o10bo$2bobo2bo7b2o6b2o2b5obo14b3o6b3o6bo19b
2obob2o$2b2o2bo5bo5bobo6b2obo17bo22bo6b2o2bo3bo3b3o$6bo7b5ob5ob3o3b2o
10bo24b2o6bobo3b2obobo4bo$7bo3b2o12bo6b3ob2o7bo24b2o5bo8b2ob3obo$6b6o
4bo5b3obo7b2obo5b3o30b2o9bobo2b4o$6bo8b2o4bobobobo6b2o29bo21bo2b2o3bo$
6bo14bo3bob3o36bo19b2o4b3o$19bobo3bo4bo6b2o25b3o7b2o16bo$9b4o6b2o3b2o
3b2o6bo35b2o$9b4o25b3o10bo23bo26bo$bobo8bo3bo23bo11bo43b2o4b3o$o3bo12b
2o31b3o44bo2b2o3bo$o9bo5b2o68b2o9bobo2b4o$b2o3bo3b4o54bobo16bo8b2ob3ob
o$4bobo3b4o53bo5bo7b2o4bobo3b2obobo4bo$67bo5b3o4b2o6b2o2bo3bo3b3o$58bo
8bo2bo5bo5bo13b2obob2o$16bo6bo35bo7b3o3b2obo14b6o$11b6o7b2o31b3o13bobo
b2o12bo$5b2obob2o11b2o50bo3bo$5b3o3bo3bo2b2o55b2ob2o$4bo4bobob2o3bobo
54b2o11b2o$4bob3ob2o8bo54b2ob4o5b2o7b2o$2b4o2bobo9b2o43bo9b2o4bo7bo6b
2o8b2o$2bo3b2o2bo19bo10b2o12b2o9bo8bo3bobob2o10bobo8b2o$3b3o4b2o14b2o
3b2o7b4o10b4o6b3o8b5o2bo2bo9b2o$5bo19bob2ob2o8b2ob2o9b2ob2o16bo4bobo2b
o9b2o$27bo14b2o12b2o11bo6b4o2bob2ob2o$26b3o38bobo7bobo2bo3bobo$27b2o
39b2o6b3o3bo3bo$26bo2bo42bo3b2ob2obobobo4b2o11b2o$27bo11bo15b2ob2o2b2o
9bo4bo3bob2o5bo4b5o4bo$19b2o18b3o10bobobobobobo2bo5b3o6b2o13b2o3b2o$7b
2o9bobo21bo7b3obobo2bo6bo15bob2o3b5o9b5o$4b2o2b3o9bo5bo14b2o6bo4bob3o
4b3obo8bo4b2obobo2bo5bo2bo2bo5bo$3bob2o4bo12b3o15b3o5b3obo4b3o5bo6bobo
6bo2bo4b2o11b2o$3bo6b2o11bo10b2o7b2o7bobob3o3b5o8b2o6bobo4b2obobo2bo2b
obob2o$2ob4o16b2o9bobo5bo10bob2o2b2o18bo4bo8bob7obo$obo4bo5bobo18bo7b
2o2b3o3b2o4bo2b4o15bo12bo9bo$2bobobo5b2obo4b3o24b4o2b6o2bo2bo13b3o13b
6o3b2o$2b5o5bo2bo5bo26b5o43bo2bo$2o3bo14b2ob2o29bobo5bo20bo$bob2o10b2o
3b3o22b3o7b2o3b3o18bobo$bob2ob2o7b2o3b2o3bo15b2o16bo22b2o$2b2ob3o3b3ob
3o3bob3o2bo12bobo6b2o7b2o25bo$7b2o3b2o7b2o3b3o12bo8b3o34bo$6b3o3b2o9b
2o24b5o12b2o17b3o$2bo4b2o14bob2o21b2o3b2o9bo2bo$2b2ob3o5bo2bo6bobobo
19b3o3b3o7bob2o23bo$6b2o5bob2o8bobo20b2o3b2o7bobo2b3o18bobo$2b2obo7bob
o6bo5b2o19b5o8bo3bo2bo19b2o$2bob2o17b2obobo13b2o6b3o7b3ob2obo25bo$4bo
2bo20bo12bobo7b2o5b2obo3bob2o25bo$4o2b2o18b2o13bo17b2ob2obo26b3o$o5bob
2o4b2o24b2o15bobo5bo$3b2obob2o4b2o30bo8b2o2bobob2o32bo$3bo2bo33b2o3bo
2bob5obobo2b2o32bobo$5b2o33bo2b2obobo3b2obo2bobo3b3o29b2o$53bobob2obob
2o2bo$41bobo11bo5bobo$42bo11b2o!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Sokwe wrote: February 7th, 2025, 10:14 pm I've been using my JLS-to-LLS script to attempt to reduce some overly large low-period supporting oscillators.
Ooh, I suggest trying to reduce the extremely big P5 oscillator in the P35 gun. Unless you did that already.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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KtT wrote: February 8th, 2025, 11:57 am A Kok's galaxy placed near the H-to-MWSS can produce additional gliders:

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x = 82, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
23b2o$24bo$5bo17bo$5b3o15b2o$8bo$7b2o4$14b2o10b2o15bo2bo$13b2ob2o8b2o
15b2obob2o$12bo4bo26b2o4bo$11b3o3bo25bo6bo25b2o$10bo4b2o31b3o24b4o$3o
7bobo58bob2ob2obo$3o8b2o57bo2b2o$3o66b3o2b2o2b2o$3b3o63b3o2bob4o$3b3o
64bo2bo3bo2bo$3b3o65b4obo2b3o$71b2o2b2o2b3o$10b4o50bo11b2o2bo$9b6o48b
obo5bob2ob2obo$9bo4bo48b2o7b4o$10bo2bo59b2o$8bobo2bobo$8b2o4b2o!
Reduction of two guns using that p80 b factory and an LCM reaction:
80 * 7 = gun_560 (2115 -> 1000):

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x = 38, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
21b2o4b2o$21bobo2bobo$23b4o$21bo2b2o2bo$21bo2b2o2bo$23bo2bo$31b3o$30bo
$30bo3bo$30bo2bobo$8b2o12b3o7bobo2bo$9bo14bobo6bo3bo$9bobo8bo3b2obo9bo
$10b2o8bo3bo3bo5b3o$b2o4bo12bo2bo3bo$b3ob2obo16bo$o7bo$5b2ob2o13bobo$
2bo3bo2bo14b2o$2bo5bo$bo2bo3bo$b2ob2o22b2o$2bo7bo9bo7bo$2bob2ob3o11bo
7b3o$3bo4b2o9b3o9bo!
80 * 13 = gun_1040 (2600 -> 1258):

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x = 35, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
19b2o4b2o$19bobo2bobo$21bo2bo$20bo4bo$20b2o2b2o$22b2o2$29b2o$29b2obo$
33bo$6b2o22bo$7bo14b2o7bob2o$7bobo11bo2bo8b2o$8b2o9bo4bo$3bo14b6o$3b3o
11b2obo$6bo11bobo$5bo13b2o$5bo3bo2$7bobo$8bo17b2o$26bo$27b3o$29bo$2bo
11bo$bobo3b3o3bobo$bobo2b2ob2o2bobo$2obobo5bobob2o$bo2b2obobob2o2bo$bo
4b2ob2o4bo$2b3o7b3o12bo$4bob2ob2obo15bo$5bobobobo14b3o!
EDIT:
One column shaved off gun_123 by using a different type of p3 eater found by JLS.

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x = 52, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
6b2o13bo6bo$3bobo2bo11bob2o3bobob2o$3b2o2b2o11b2ob5obob2o$b2o21bo2bobo
$obob7ob2o3b3o4bo2bob6o$bo2bo5bobo4bo2bo4bo2bo3bo2bo$bo2bob2o4bo3bo3bo
8bobo2b2o$3b2obobo3b2o2bobob2o7bo$2o6bo8b2ob2o$2b2obo2b3o7b3o11bo$11bo
18b3o$2obo6b2o17bo$2o16b2o10bo$b2o14bo2bo6b4o$b2o12bo5bo5bo5b2o$b2o11b
obo3bo8bobo2bo$14bo3bo9b2ob2o$15b2obo$17b2obo$9b2o7b2obo6b2o$9b2o8b2o
8bo$28bo$29b3o7bo$16b3o12bo6bobo$38bobo$5b2o30b2ob2o$6bo37bob2o$6bobo
9b3o16b2ob5obo$7b2o28b2obo6b3o$43b4o2bo$16b2o8b2o15bo2bo$15bob2o7b2o$
16bob2o$18bob2o16bo$4b2ob2o9bo3bo15bo9b2o$2bo2bobo8bo3bobo15bo9bobo$2b
2o5bo5bo5bo28bo$6b4o6bo2bo30b2o$6bo10b2o$7bo17b2o11b2o$4b3o18bo13bo$4b
o11b3o7b3o7b3o$15b2ob2o8bo7bo$7bo7b2obobo2b2o$b2o2bobo8bo3bo3bo26bo$bo
2bo3bo2bo4bo2bo4bob2o21bobo$2b6obo2bo4b3o3b2ob2o22b2o$7bobo2bo$4b2obob
5ob2o$4b2obobo3b2obo$8bo6bo!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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AlbertArmStain wrote: February 8th, 2025, 11:50 am
Sokwe wrote: February 7th, 2025, 10:14 pm I've been using my JLS-to-LLS script to attempt to reduce some overly large low-period supporting oscillators.
Ooh, I suggest trying to reduce the extremely big P5 oscillator in the P35 gun. Unless you did that already.
Good idea, I had not tried that. I did manage a 12-column reduction with an even messier p5 found using a combination of LLS and JLS:

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x = 92, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
b2o4b2ob2o$2bo4bob2obo$2bob2obo4bo14bo$2o2bobob4ob2o10b3o$bobo2bo4bobo
bo8bo$o2b2ob2o2b3o2bo8b2o$b2o3b2o3bobob2o$3b2o7b2o2bo5bo$3bo6bo3bo4bob
ob2o21b2o$4bo5b4o2bo9b2o18bobo$3b2o8bob2o2bo7bo15b2obo2bo5b2o$10b2obob
o9b2o16bobobobo4bobo$10b2obobo4bo2b2o20bo4bo3bo10b2o$14bo6b3o21bob4o2b
2o11bo$46bo3bo2bo3bo6bo$47b3ob2ob4o2bo3b5obo$4b2o5b2o36bo4bo3b3o7bob3o
$5bo5bobo43bo6b3o6bo$5bobo5bo36bo2bo3b2o4bo2b7o$6b2o2bo3bo15b2o32bobob
2o$10bo3b2o14bobo30b2obo4b2o$9bo5bo14bo17b3o3b3o9bo2b2o2bo13b2o$10bo4b
o32bobo3bobo9bobo2b3o12bobo$14bo33b3o3b3o6b2obobo17bo$10bobo50bob2obob
4o8b2ob2obo$70bo2bo8b2obo2b3o$5b2o57b2obobob2o13b2o3bo$5bo2b2ob2o50bob
2o2b2obobo10bo2b2obo$7b2o3b3o24b2o20b3o3bobo2bob3o4b2ob3obobo$10bo4bo
6bobo13b2o20bo3b2o6bo4bo3bo6bo$6bob2ob2ob2o2bo4b2o15bo20b3o2bo4b2ob2ob
o4b2o4bo$6b2obobobo2b3o4bo11bo27bobob4obobobo9bo2b2o$9bo2b4o19b3o10b3o
3b3o8b3o3bo2bo9b5o2bo$9b2o2bobob4o17bo9bobo3bobo7bo6bob2o8bobo2bob2o$
15bobo2bo16b2o9b3o3b3o7b4obobo9b3ob2obo$15bo25b3o25bobo8bo7bo$12b2o2bo
45b5o3bo4b2o2bo2b2o2bo2b2o$12b5o15bo6bo17b2o2bo4bo9bo2b3o2bo2b2o2bo$
33bo5bo5bo7bo3bo4b2o3b6obo2b2o3bo3bo2bobo$8bo2bobob2o14b3o5bo5bo3b2ob
2o4b3obo5bo4b4o2b2o2bo3b2obo$8b4ob2obo32bo12bob2o3b3o5bobob2ob2o2bo$
12bo28b3o4bo4bobobob4o2bo2bo3b2o2b2obo3b2obobo$10bobo28bo5bo3bobobo5b
2o4b2obo3bo2bob2ob2o3bob2o$10b2o28b2o4bo2bobobobo2bo4bobo2bo4b2obob2o
4b2obobobo$39bobo4b2o3bobo4b2ob2ob2obobobobob3ob2obo3bo3bo$38b2ob2o2bo
2b3obobobo2bobobobob3o2bo5b2o2b4o$38b2o6bobo3bobob2ob2o5bo3bo3bobobobo
$37b3ob2o5b3obob2o10b5obobobobob4o$37b4obo6bo2bo4bob4ob2o5b2obobob2o4b
o$39bo3bo5b2obob2ob2o3b2o3b3o3bob2o4b3o$40bobo9bo2bo4bo4b2o2b3obo4b4o$
41bo9b2obo2b8o2bo4bo2b3o$52bob3o7bobob3obob2o2b2o$52bo5b3o2b2obo3bobo
5bobo$32bo4b2o7bobo4bob3o2bo4bob2obobob2o4bo$31bobo3b2o8b2o8bo4b2obobo
bo2bobobo2b2obo$32bo14bo6bo2b2obo4b2obob3o5bobob3o$55bo6bo4bo6bo3bo6bo
$58bo3bo3bob4o9b4o$43b2o12bobo2bobobobo2b8o3bo$43bo14bobobob2o3bo10bo$
44b3o12b2ob2o6b3ob8o$46bo9bo4bo3b3o4bobo2bo$57bo3bob2o2bo11bo$55b3o4bo
bo13b2o!
This was mostly a test to see if I could do anything. It's obvious that there are smaller solutions.

In this case, I used LLS to find a rotor split, and I then completed the branches with JLS. This worked reasonably well, as think JLS would have done very poorly trying to find the split, but LLS found it quickly. However, being able to see the partials in JLS made it better for completing the branches. I tried to find a shorter branch completion with LLS for that rightmost-extending branch, but my setups kept taking too long only to come back unsatisfiable with nothing to show for it. I think I need more practice setting up LLS searches to get a better sense of what works. The above form at least provides a bounding box limit for any further LLS searches.

I'm also searching for an alternate solution with a different p35 interaction, but I've had no luck so far.

Here is the previous form of the p35 gun for comparison:

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x = 104, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
b2o4b2ob2o$2bo4bob2obo$2bob2obo4bo14bo$2o2bobob4ob2o10b3o$bobo2bo4bob
obo8bo$o2b2ob2o2b3o2bo8b2o$b2o3b2o3bobob2o$3b2o7b2o2bo5bo69bo$3bo6bo3b
o4bobob2o21b2o43bobo$5bo4b4o2bo9b2o18bobo40b3o2bo$4b2o7bob2o2bo7bo15b
2obo2bo5b2o31bo3bobo$10b2obobo9b2o16bobobobo4bobo30bobo2bob2o$10b2obo
bo4bo2b2o20bo4bo3bo31bo2b3obo$14bo6b3o21bob4o2b2o31bobo2bo2b2o$46bo3b
o2bo3bo27b2ob2o5bo$47b3ob2ob4o2bo26bo4b3o$4b2o5b2o36bo4bo3b3o26bob2o$
5bo5bobo43bo28b2obo2bob3o$5bobo5bo36bo2bo3b2o28bob4obo2bo$6b2o2bo3bo15b
2o55bobo4bo2bo$10bo3b2o14bobo52b2obobobob3o$9bo5bo14bo17b3o3b3o29bobo
b3o$10bo4bo32bobo3bobo27bo3b2o3b2o$14bo33b3o3b3o27b4o7bobo$10bobo75b2o
2bobob2o$86bobobobobo$5b2o79b2o3bo2bob2o$5bo2b2ob2o77b2o2bobobo$7b2o3b
3o24b2o45b4ob4o3bo$10bo4bo6bobo13b2o46bo4b2obobo2b2o$6bob2ob2ob2o2bo4b
2o15bo48b2o4b3obo2bo$6b2obobobo2b3o4bo11bo53bo4bo4bob2o$9bo2b4o19b3o10b
3o3b3o33bo2bobobobo$9b2o2bobob4o17bo9bobo3bobo7bob2o17b2obob2ob2o4bob
2o$15bobo2bo16b2o9b3o3b3o7b2o2bo6b2o8bob2obob3obo2bo2bo$15bo25b3o23bo
2b2o2bobo13bobo4bo2bo$12b2o2bo45b5ob2ob4obobo11bo5b5obo$12b5o15bo6bo17b
2o2bo4bobo8bobo9b2ob2o2bo4b2o$33bo5bo5bo7bo3bo4b2o5b7obobo11bo3b5o$8b
o2bobob2o14b3o5bo5bo3b2ob2o4b3obo4bobo4b2obob2o8b2o4bo2bob2obo$8b4ob2o
bo32bo12bob2o2b2o3bo3bobo9bo4bobo3bob2o$12bo28b3o4bo4bobobob4o2bobo4b
o3b2obo3bobo4bo3bobo3bo$10bobo28bo5bo3bobobo5b2o3b2o2b2o5bobo9b2o3bo3b
obo$10b2o28b2o4bo2bobobobo2bo4bobo8b3ob5obobo2b2o3b2ob2ob2o$39bobo4b2o
3bobo4b2ob2ob2o5b5o6bo6bo4bo4bo$38b2ob2o2bo2b3obobobo2bobobobob2ob2ob
o4b2obobob2obo2bo4b2obo$38b2o6bobo3bobob2ob2o5bo4bobo3bo3b3obob2ob2ob
o3bob2o$37b3ob2o5b3obob2o10b4o4bo2bo6bobo5b5o$37b4obo6bo2bo4bob4ob2o4b
5o3bo2b2o2bob2o2bo$39bo3bo5b2obob2ob2o3b2o3b3o5b3obo2bobobo4bob2o$40b
obo9bo2bo4bo4b2o3bob2o3bob2o2b2obo2bobobo$41bo9b2obo2b5ob2o2b4obo14b3o
bobo$52bob3o7bo2bo4bo19bo$52bo5b5o6b3o17b3o$32bo4b2o7bobo4bob3obo3b6o
3b3o14bo$31bobo3b2o8b2o8bo2b2o3bo2bo2bo3bo$32bo14bo6bo2b2o5bo2bo4bob2o
$55bo9bob2o2b2o$58bo2bobo4bo2bob3o$43b2o12bobo3bob2obobobo2bo$43bo14b
o2bobobo2bo2b4o$44b3o12b3obo3b2o$46bo9bo5bobo6b2o$57bo3bo2bo6b2o$55b3o
4b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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JP21 wrote: April 13th, 2023, 3:09 am This true p14 gun partial only needs a suitable p7 to work:

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x = 49, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
8.2A32.2A$10.A2.2A29.A2.2A$10.A2.2A29.A2.2A$9.2A32.2A$7.A33.A$7.A.A.A
29.A.A.A$7.A3.2A28.A3.2A$8.2A3.A28.2A3.A$9.A.A.A29.A.A.A$13.A33.A$10.
2A32.2A$6.2A2.A29.2A2.A$6.2A2.A13.D15.2A2.A$11.2A11.2D19.2A$21.6D$4.A
19.2D$3.2A19.D8.2A3.2A$2.2A3.2A24.A.A.A2.A$.3A3.3A23.A4.3A$2.2A3.2A
30.A$3.5A2.C33.C$4.3A6.C33.C$3.3A3.4C30.4C$2.2A32.2A$3.A4.4C25.A4.4C$
3A4.2C.2C22.3A4.2C.2C$A9.2C22.A9.2C$6.C.C2.C28.C.C2.C!
Sokwe could try to find an oscillator to support this.

A reduction to post along with this:
gun_304 (2744 -> 2695):

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x = 55, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
9bo7bo$9b3o3b2o$12bo4b2o$11b2o3bo2$45bo2b2o$45b4obo$50bo$13b3o27b7ob2o
$2bo10bobo26bo6bobo2bo$2b3o8bobo26b2o2b2obo3b2o$5bo11bo18b2o8b2ob2o$4b
2o6bo4bobo7b2o7b2o$12bo2b2o2b2o6bo8b2o$11b2o3b2o2b2o6bo7bo9b2o$15b3o7b
4o6bobo8b2ob2o$8b3o3b3o8bo9bob2o6b2obo$b2o5b3o2b2o13b3o$b2o5b3o3b3o11b
o2bo$15b3o12b2o4b2o$11b2o3b2o2b2o14b2o5bo$12bo2b2o2b2o21bobo9bo$6b2o4b
o4bobo22bobo7bobo$2b2o2b2o26b2o7bo9b2o$bobo19bobo4bo3b2o$bo20b2o2b2o2b
o$2o19b2o2b2o3b2o17b2o$11b2o12b3o21bo$11bo2bo11b3o3b3o15b3o$12b3o13b2o
2b3o17bo$17bo8b3o3b3o$14b4o7b3o$14bo6b2o2b2o3b2o$15bo6b2o2b2o2bo$14b2o
7bobo4bo6bo$25bo11bo$27bobo6b3o$27bobo$27b3o2$35b5o$34bob3obo$22bo11bo
bobobo$21bo2bo2bo5b2obobob2o$21bo2bo2b5o4b2obo$23bob2o5b3o4bo$25b2o7bo
b3o$25b2obo2bobo2bo$29bo4b2o!
Strange old version:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH gun_304 costs 2744 cells.
#C period 304 fullperiod 304 bbox 56 by 49
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 56, y = 49, rule = LifeHistory
9.A6.BA8.2A7.2A7.2A$4.2A3.3A3.2A.B7.A4.2A3.A6.A.A7.2A$4.A7.A2.B.2A
4.2A.A3.A.A2.A7.A9.A.A$5.A5.2A3.AB5.A.A4.2A3.2A5.2A10.2A$3.A.A5.4B
13.2A16.A2.2A$3.2A8.3B.B9.A.A8.2A6.4A.A$12.2BA4B7.A.A10.A11.A$12.B
3A4B6.2A3.A6.A5.7A.2A.A$11.BA2B2A3B10.A.A2.A.A5.A2.B3.A.A.2A$2.A8.
B2A2B2A3B8.A.A3.2A6.2A2.2A.AB$2.3A5.5B2AB2A10.A15.B2AB2A$5.A4.5BA
2BABAB25.5B$4.2A3.3B2ABA5BAB4.2A19.3B$4.8B2A2B2ABABAB4.A19.2A3B$6.
4B.BABA2B5AB5.A17.B2AB2A$5.13BABA2B2.4A8.B2A6.2ABA4B$2.2B.2B3A9BA
3B2.A11.3AB4.9B$.2A3BA16B4.B3A5.A.2AB5.7B$.2AB.2B3A9BA4B3.BA2.A3.A
.A.2B3.10B$2.B2.13B3A4B2.2B.2A3.A2.A2.3BA10B$4.6B.BABA2B2AB2A3B.3B
7.2A3.2BABA9BA$4.4B3.B2A3BABABA7B13.BABA7BABA$4.2B2AB3.2A3BA4B2A6B
14.A7B2.2A$2.2AB.2A5.5BABA.ABA5B4.2A7.7B5.B$.A.AB8.6B2A4BA3B2A.2B
2AB6.9B$.A12.7BABABA3B2A5B6.4B4.2A$2A12.3B.3B2AB2A2BABA7B3.4B5.A$
11.2A.2B2.4B3A19B7.3A$11.A2.AB3.4BA9B3A7B10.A$2.2A8.3AB4.16BA5B$.A
2.A12.A2.3BA9B3A5B11.A$A2.A10.4A2.2BABA14B12.A.A$.2A3.A7.A5.B5A2BA
BAB.4B11.A2.2A$5.A.A7.A4.BABAB2A2B2A6B9.3A$6.A.A5.2A4.BA5BAB2A3B3.
A7.A8.2A$7.2A12.BABA2BA5B3.BAB6.2A4.2A2.A$23.2AB2A5B3.3A12.A.2A$
22.3B2A2B2AB3.5B$23.3B2A2BAB3.2B.2B$4.2A17.4B3AB5.3B12.2A$4.A10.A
8.4BA2B4.5A11.A2.A$6.A.2A4.A.A8.B.3B4.A.3A.A3.A.A6.2A$5.2A.A.A4.A.
A4.A5.2B4.A.A.A.A3.2A.A$10.A5.A4.A2BA2.A.3B.2A.A.A.2A5.A$.A.A6.2A
9.A2BA.B5A4.2A.A7.2A$.2A.A9.A8.A.2A5B3A4.A4.A6.2A$4.A8.A.A3.A5.2A
5B2.A.3A4.A.A5.A2.A$4.2A8.A3.A.A4.2ABA2BA.A2.A5.A.A8.2A$19.2A5.B2.
A4.2A7.A!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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ElijahKen wrote: February 10th, 2025, 8:05 pm
Strange old version:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH gun_304 costs 2744 cells.
#C period 304 fullperiod 304 bbox 56 by 49
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 56, y = 49, rule = LifeHistory
9.A6.BA8.2A7.2A7.2A$4.2A3.3A3.2A.B7.A4.2A3.A6.A.A7.2A$4.A7.A2.B.2A
4.2A.A3.A.A2.A7.A9.A.A$5.A5.2A3.AB5.A.A4.2A3.2A5.2A10.2A$3.A.A5.4B
13.2A16.A2.2A$3.2A8.3B.B9.A.A8.2A6.4A.A$12.2BA4B7.A.A10.A11.A$12.B
3A4B6.2A3.A6.A5.7A.2A.A$11.BA2B2A3B10.A.A2.A.A5.A2.B3.A.A.2A$2.A8.
B2A2B2A3B8.A.A3.2A6.2A2.2A.AB$2.3A5.5B2AB2A10.A15.B2AB2A$5.A4.5BA
2BABAB25.5B$4.2A3.3B2ABA5BAB4.2A19.3B$4.8B2A2B2ABABAB4.A19.2A3B$6.
4B.BABA2B5AB5.A17.B2AB2A$5.13BABA2B2.4A8.B2A6.2ABA4B$2.2B.2B3A9BA
3B2.A11.3AB4.9B$.2A3BA16B4.B3A5.A.2AB5.7B$.2AB.2B3A9BA4B3.BA2.A3.A
.A.2B3.10B$2.B2.13B3A4B2.2B.2A3.A2.A2.3BA10B$4.6B.BABA2B2AB2A3B.3B
7.2A3.2BABA9BA$4.4B3.B2A3BABABA7B13.BABA7BABA$4.2B2AB3.2A3BA4B2A6B
14.A7B2.2A$2.2AB.2A5.5BABA.ABA5B4.2A7.7B5.B$.A.AB8.6B2A4BA3B2A.2B
2AB6.9B$.A12.7BABABA3B2A5B6.4B4.2A$2A12.3B.3B2AB2A2BABA7B3.4B5.A$
11.2A.2B2.4B3A19B7.3A$11.A2.AB3.4BA9B3A7B10.A$2.2A8.3AB4.16BA5B$.A
2.A12.A2.3BA9B3A5B11.A$A2.A10.4A2.2BABA14B12.A.A$.2A3.A7.A5.B5A2BA
BAB.4B11.A2.2A$5.A.A7.A4.BABAB2A2B2A6B9.3A$6.A.A5.2A4.BA5BAB2A3B3.
A7.A8.2A$7.2A12.BABA2BA5B3.BAB6.2A4.2A2.A$23.2AB2A5B3.3A12.A.2A$
22.3B2A2B2AB3.5B$23.3B2A2BAB3.2B.2B$4.2A17.4B3AB5.3B12.2A$4.A10.A
8.4BA2B4.5A11.A2.A$6.A.2A4.A.A8.B.3B4.A.3A.A3.A.A6.2A$5.2A.A.A4.A.
A4.A5.2B4.A.A.A.A3.2A.A$10.A5.A4.A2BA2.A.3B.2A.A.A.2A5.A$.A.A6.2A
9.A2BA.B5A4.2A.A7.2A$.2A.A9.A8.A.2A5B3A4.A4.A6.2A$4.A8.A.A3.A5.2A
5B2.A.3A4.A.A5.A2.A$4.2A8.A3.A.A4.2ABA2BA.A2.A5.A.A8.2A$19.2A5.B2.
A4.2A7.A!
I’m curious about who submitted that.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Sokwe wrote: February 6th, 2025, 6:22 am
Edit (Feb. 7): I'm still messing around with my little JLS-to-LLS script. Here is a 3-column reduction to the p28 gun found with LLS: It might be possible to remove more columns on the left side, but I'm doubtful. On the right side any p4 reduction in columns would make the gun taller.
Smaller p56 gun as a result (BB 31x29, down from 34x29)

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x = 31, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$3bo11b2o$3b3o22bo$6bo19b2obo$5b2o17bo4bo$6b3o15b4ob2o$7b3o15bo2b
o$6bo19bobo$6bo16b2ob2o$5b2o3bo4b2o7b2o$4bobo7b2obo4bo4b3o$bo2b3o6bo3b
o6b3o2bo$b3o4bo4bob2o7bobo$5b2o7b2o4bo3b2o$3b2ob2o16bo$2bobo19bo$2bo2b
o15b3o$2ob4o15b3o$bo4bo10bo6b2o$bob2o6b2o5b2o4bo$2bo9bo4b2o6b3o$9b3o15b
o$9bo2$13b2o$9b2obo2bob2o$9bo4bo2b2o$13bo$10bobo!
EDIT: Smaller double-barreled p28 as well

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x = 31, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
21bo$3bo15b3o$3b3o12bo8b2o$6bo11b2o7bobo$5b2o18b3obo$23b2o2bob2o$8b2o
13b2obobo$6bobo15bobobo$5bo2bo14bo2b2o$5bo2bo16bo$8bo6b3o5bo2b4o$bo2b
5o4b2ob2o4b5o2bo$b4o2bo5b3o6bo$5bo16bo2bo$3b2o2bo14bo2bo$2bobobo15bob
o$2bobob2o13b2o$2obo2b2o$bob3o18b2o$bobo7b2o11bo$2b2o8bo12b3o$9b3o15b
o$9bo!
Currently working to improve Life's guns and work on updating SKOPs and Isotropic rules most similar to B3/S23 to Life standards. Will get software to begin searches eventually.

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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Here's another 8 columns off the true p35 gun by reducing one of the p5 branches using a combination of LLS and JLS:

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x = 84, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
b2o4b2ob2o$2bo4bob2obo$2bob2obo4bo14bo$2o2bobob4ob2o10b3o$bobo2bo4bobo
bo8bo$o2b2ob2o2b3o2bo8b2o$b2o3b2o3bobob2o$3b2o7b2o2bo5bo$3bo6bo3bo4bob
ob2o21b2o$4bo5b4o2bo9b2o18bobo$3b2o8bob2o2bo7bo15b2obo2bo5b2o$10b2obob
o9b2o16bobobobo4bobo$10b2obobo4bo2b2o20bo4bo3bo10b2o$14bo6b3o21bob4o2b
2o11bo$46bo3bo2bo3bo6bo$47b3ob2ob4o2bo3b5obo$4b2o5b2o36bo4bo3b3o7bob3o
$5bo5bobo43bo6b3o6bo$5bobo5bo36bo2bo3b2o4bo2b7o$6b2o2bo3bo15b2o32bobob
2o$10bo3b2o14bobo30b2obo4b2o$9bo5bo14bo17b3o3b3o9bo2b2o2bo$10bo4bo32bo
bo3bobo9bobo2b2obo$14bo33b3o3b3o6b2obobo4bobo$10bobo50bob2obob3o2bo$
70bo2b2o$5b2o57b2obobob2o4bo$5bo2b2ob2o50bob2o2b2obob4o$7b2o3b3o24b2o
20b3o3bobo2bobo$10bo4bo6bobo13b2o20bo3b2o6bobo2b3o2b2o$6bob2ob2ob2o2bo
4b2o15bo20b3o2bo4b2obobobobo2bo$6b2obobobo2b3o4bo11bo27bobob4obobo2bob
2obo$9bo2b4o19b3o10b3o3b3o8b3o3bo2bobobo2bo$9b2o2bobob4o17bo9bobo3bobo
7bo6bob2obo2b2o$15bobo2bo16b2o9b3o3b3o7b4obobo3bo$15bo25b3o25bob3obobo
2b3o$12b2o2bo45b5o3bo3b2obobo2bo$12b5o15bo6bo17b2o2bo4bo5bo4b3obo$33bo
5bo5bo7bo3bo4b2o3b10o2b2o$8bo2bobob2o14b3o5bo5bo3b2ob2o4b3obo5bo$8b4ob
2obo32bo12bob2o3b5o2b2ob2o$12bo28b3o4bo4bobobob4o2bo2bo5bo5bo$10bobo
28bo5bo3bobobo5b2o4b2obo3bo5bobo$10b2o28b2o4bo2bobobobo2bo4bobo2bo5bo
2bo3b2o$39bobo4b2o3bobo4b2ob2ob2obob2o2bo2bobo$38b2ob2o2bo2b3obobobo2b
obobobobobobo2bobobo$38b2o6bobo3bobob2ob2o5bo2bo2b3obob2o$37b3ob2o5b3o
bob2o10b6o3bo$37b4obo6bo2bo4bob4ob2o6b3o$39bo3bo5b2obob2ob2o3b2o3b2obo
bo$40bobo9bo2bo4bo4b2o2b2o5b2o$41bo9b2obo2b8o2bo3bo5bo$52bob3o7bobob3o
bo4bob2o$52bo5b3o2b2obo3bobo5bobo$32bo4b2o7bobo4bob3o2bo4bob2obobob2o
4bob2o$31bobo3b2o8b2o8bo4b2obobobo2bobobo2b2obo$32bo14bo6bo2b2obo4b2ob
ob3o5bobobo$55bo6bo4bo6bo3bo3b2o$58bo3bo3bob4o9bo$43b2o12bobo2bobobobo
2b8o3b2o$43bo14bobobob2o3bo10bobo$44b3o12b2ob2o6b6ob4obo$46bo9bo4bo3b
3o4bo2bobo3bo$57bo3bob2o2bo12bo$55b3o4bobo15b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Sokwe wrote: February 12th, 2025, 11:14 pm Here's another 8 columns off the true p35 gun by reducing one of the p5 branches using a combination of LLS and JLS:

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snip
Bringing back the lowermost wing from the 104x65 true-period p35 gun should allow for up to 8 more columns to be shaved off rather than the zero columns that your 84x65 p35 gun design actually allows for:

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x = 84, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
b2o4b2ob2o$2bo4bob2obo$2bob2obo4bo14bo$2o2bobob4ob2o10b3o$bobo2bo4bo3b
o8bo$o2b2obo3bo2bobo8b2o$b2o3bo4bo3b2o$3b2o2bo4b2o8bo$3bo5bo4b2o2b2obo
bo22b2o$4bo5b4o8b2o2b2o18bobo$3b2o8bob2o9b2o15b2obo2bo5b2o$10b2obobo
27bobobobo4bobo$10b2obobo29bo4bo3bo10b2o$14bo30bob4o2b2o11bo$25b2o19bo
3bo2bo3bo6bo$25bobo19b3ob2ob4o2bo3b5obo$4b2o5b2o4bo7bo23bo4bo3b3o7bob
3o$5bo5b2o3bo40bo6b3o6bo$5bobo8b3o31bo2bo3b2o4bo2b7o$6b2o56bobob2o$10b
2o51b2obo4b2o$9bobo54bo2b2o2bo$10bo55bobo2b2obo$34b2o27b2obobo4bobo$
10bo22b2o14bo5bo7bob2obob3o2bo$10bo9bo14bo13b2o3b2o14bo2b2o$5b2o11bobo
28bo5bo8b2obobob2o4bo$5bo2bo3bo6b2o42bob2o2b2obob4o$7b2obob3o46b3o3bob
o2bobo$10bo4bo33bo5bo4bo3b2o6bobo2b3o2b2o$6bob2obobobo2bo30b2o3b2o5b3o
2bo4b2obobobobo2bo$6b2obobo4b3o16bo13bo5bo7bobob4obobo2bob2obo$9bo2bob
2o19b3o4b3o20b3o3bo2bobobo2bo$9bo3bobob4o17bo3bo21bo6bob2obo2b2o$10bo
4bobo2bo6bobo7b2o4bo20b4obobo3bo$15bo12b2o39bob3obobo2b3o$11bo4bo11bo
33b5o3bo3b2obobo2bo$12b5o25bo14b2o2bo4bo5bo4b3obo$41b2o10bo3bo4b2o3b
10o2b2o$8bo2bobob2o25bo6b2ob2o4b3obo5bo$8b4ob2obo32bo12bob2o3b5o2b2ob
2o$12bo35bo4bobobob4o2bo2bo5bo5bo$10bobo24bo9bo3bobobo5b2o4b2obo3bo5bo
bo$10b2o26bo7bo2bobobobo2bo4bobo2bo5bo2bo3b2o$36b3o7b2o3bobo4b2ob2ob2o
bob2o2bo2bobo$45bo2b3obobobo2bobobobobobobo2bobobo$46bobo3bobob2ob2o5b
o2bo2b3obob2o$48b3obob2o10b6o3bo$49bo2bo4bob4ob2o6b3o$49b2obob2ob2o3b
2o3b5o$52bo2bo4bo4b2o5bo$40b3o8b2obo2b5ob2o2b2o2bobo$39bo3bo8bob3o7bo
2bobo2bo$38bo5bo7bo5b5o6b3o$32bo5bo5bo8bob3obo3b6o3b3o$31bobo4bo5bo12b
o2b2o3bo2bo2bo3bo$32bo6bo3bo10bo2b2o5bo2bo4bob2o$40b3o12bo9bob2o2b2o$
58bo2bobo4bo2bob3o$43b2o6bobo3bobo3bob2obobobo2bo$43bo8b2o4bo2bobobo2b
o2b4o$44b3o5bo6b3obo3b2o$46bo15bobo6b2o$61bo2bo6b2o$62b2o!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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iNoMed wrote: February 13th, 2025, 10:05 am Bringing back the lowermost wing from the 104x65 true-period p35 gun should allow for up to 8 more columns to be shaved off rather than the zero columns that your 84x65 p35 gun design actually allows for:
For some reason I thought it didn't fit, but I guess it does. A quick JLS search reduces it by one column, but further reductions will likely require more significant changes to multiple branches:

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x = 83, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
b2o4b2ob2o$2bo4bob2obo$2bob2obo4bo14bo$2o2bobob4ob2o10b3o$bobo2bo4bobo
bo8bo$o2b2ob2o2b3o2bo8b2o52bo$b2o3b2o3bobob2o60bobo$3b2o7b2o2bo5bo54bo
bo$3bo6bo3bo4bobob2o21b2o26b2obob2o$4bo5b4o2bo9b2o18bobo25bo2b2o3bo$3b
2o8bob2o2bo7bo15b2obo2bo5b2o19bo2bo$10b2obobo9b2o16bobobobo4bobo18b2o
2bo$10b2obobo4bo2b2o20bo4bo3bo10b2o9bobo$14bo6b3o21bob4o2b2o11bo9bob5o
$46bo3bo2bo3bo6bo10b2o2bo$47b3ob2ob4o2bo3b5obo6bo2bo$4b2o5b2o36bo4bo3b
3o7bob3o4bobo$5bo5bobo43bo6b3o6bo2b2o2b2o$5bobo5bo36bo2bo3b2o4bo2b7o4b
obo$6b2o2bo3bo15b2o32bobob2o7bob2o$10bo3b2o14bobo30b2obo4b2o3b2o$9bo5b
o14bo17b3o3b3o9bo2b2o2bobo2bo$10bo4bo32bobo3bobo9bobo2b2o3bobo$14bo33b
3o3b3o6b2obobo4b3obob3o$10bobo50bob2obob3o4bo$70bo2b3o2b4o$5b2o57b2obo
bob2o3b2o$5bo2b2ob2o50bob2o2b2obo2bo2bo$7b2o3b3o24b2o20b3o3bobo2bobobo
bo3bo$10bo4bo6bobo13b2o20bo3b2o6bobobo2b2obo$6bob2ob2ob2o2bo4b2o15bo
20b3o2bo4b2obob2obobo$6b2obobobo2b3o4bo11bo27bobob4obobo2bo2b3o$9bo2b
4o19b3o10b3o3b3o8b3o3bo2bobobo3bo$9b2o2bobob4o17bo9bobo3bobo7bo6bob2ob
o2b3o$15bobo2bo16b2o9b3o3b3o7b4obobo3bo$15bo25b3o25bob3obobo2b2o$12b2o
2bo45b5o3bo3b2obobo2bo$12b5o15bo6bo17b2o2bo4bo5bo4b3obo$33bo5bo5bo7bo
3bo4b2o3b10o2b2o$8bo2bobob2o14b3o5bo5bo3b2ob2o4b3obo5bo$8b4ob2obo32bo
12bob2o3b5o2b2ob2o$12bo28b3o4bo4bobobob4o2bo2bo5bo5bo$10bobo28bo5bo3bo
bobo5b2o4b2obo3bo5bobo$10b2o28b2o4bo2bobobobo2bo4bobo2bo5bo2bo3b2o$39b
obo4b2o3bobo4b2ob2ob2obob2o2bo2bobo$38b2ob2o2bo2b3obobobo2bobobobobobo
bo2bobobo$38b2o6bobo3bobob2ob2o5bo2bo2b3obob2o$37b3ob2o5b3obob2o10b6o
3bo$37b4obo6bo2bo4bob4ob2o6b3o$39bo3bo5b2obob2ob2o3b2o3b4o$40bobo9bo2b
o4bo4b2o4b2o$41bo9b2obo2b7obo2bo2bo$52bob3o7bo2b2o3bo$52bo5b5o6b3o$32b
o4b2o7bobo4bob3obo3b6o3b3o$31bobo3b2o8b2o8bo2b2o3bo2bo2bo3bo$32bo14bo
6bo2b2o5bo2bo4bob2o$55bo9bob2o2b2o$58bo2bobo4bo2bob3o$43b2o12bobo3bob
2obobobo2bo$43bo14bo2bobobo2bo2b4o$44b3o12b3obo3b2o$46bo9bo5bobo6b2o$
57bo3bo2bo6b2o$55b3o4b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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Continuing the LCM with p80 b factory topic, here is a sizable reduction to gun_1360.
From a period-quadrupled p340 gun to LCM(80, 34). 3234 -> 2303:

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x = 48, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
30b2o4b2o$30bobo2bobo$32b4o$30bo2b2o2bo$30bo2b2o2bo$32bo2bo$41bo$9bo
30bobo$8bobo28bo3bo$6b3obo29bo3bo$5bo4bob2o3b2o22bo3bo$5bobobobobo4bo
12b3o8bo3bo$o5b2obobo6bobo9bo3bo8bobo$3o7bobo6b2o9bo3bo9bo$3bo7bo18bo
3bo$2bo28b3o$bo20b2o$b2o4bobo12b2o11b2o$6b3obobo5bo16b2o$6bo2b3o5bobo$
15b2o2b2o$2b2o11b2ob2o17b2o$3bo11b2ob2o17bo$3bobo11bo20b3o$4b2o4b2o28b
o$10bo2bo$11b3o$12bo3bo$15b3o$15bo2bo$17b2o4b2o$11bo11bobo$9b2ob2o11bo
$9b2ob2o11b2o$8b2o2b2o$9bobo5b3o2bo$10bo5bobob3o$19bobo4b2o$27bo$26bo$
17bo7bo21bo$16bobo7b3o16bobo$17bobob2o5bo17b2o$15bobobobobo$14bobobo4b
o$14bobobob3o$15bo3b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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guntrue_1840 in 1840, down from 2256:

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x = 39, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
21b2o4b2o$21bobo2bobo$23bo2bo$22bo4bo$22bo4bo$22bo4bo$24b2o$31b2o$31b
2obo$35bo$8b2o22bo$9bo13bo9bob2o$9bobo10bobo10b2o$10b2o9bo3bo$22bobo$
23bo2$8b2o16b2o$2bo5b2o16b2o$b3o$o3bo$2ob2o23b2o$28bo$b3o25b3o$b3o27b
o6$3b2ob2o$3b2ob2o$3b2ob2o$bob2ob2obo$b3o3b3o$2bo5bo4$37bo$38bo$36b3o
3$b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o!
Last edited by KtT on February 17th, 2025, 2:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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guntrue_2160 in 2162, down from 2496 (A period-multiplied Simkin Glider Gun):

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x = 44, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
28b2o4b2o$28bobo2bobo$30bo2bo$29bo4bo$29bo4bo$29bo4bo$31b2o$38b2o$38b
2obo$42bo$15b2o22bo$16bo13bo9bob2o$16bobo10bobo10b2o$17b2o9bo3bo$29bo
bo$30bo2$15b2o16b2o$15b2o16b2o3$35b2o$35bo$13b2o21b3o$14b2o22bo$10bo4b
o$10bo3bo$10b2o7b3o$19bo2$2o21bo$2o5b2o11bob2o$6b2obo11b2o5b2o$6bo21b
2o2$10bo$8b3o7b2o$15bo3bo$14bo4bo$14b2o$15b2o5$13b2o$13b2o!
EDIT: Guntrue_3440 in 1920, down from Undefined.

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x = 46, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
30b2o4b2o$30bobo2bobo$32bo2bo$31bo4bo$31bo4bo$31bo4bo$33b2o$10b2o28b2o
$8b3o29b2obo$3b2o2bo4bo31bo$3bo3bob2ob3o2b2o22bo$4b3obobo4bo2bo13bo9b
ob2o$6bobo3b3o3bobo10bobo10b2o$6bobobobo6b2o9bo3bo$bo5b2ob2o19bobo$b3o
28bo$4bo$3b2o6b2o4b2o16b2o$11b2o4bo2bo14b2o$7b2o$7b2o$2o13bo4bo16b2o$
2o13bo2b2o17bo$7b2o6b2o21b3o$4b2o2bo13b2o16bo$3bo4bo13b2o$15b2o$15b2o
$3bo2bo4b2o$5b2o4b2o6b2o$19bo$20b3o$12b2ob2o5bo$11bobobobo$9b3o3bobo$
8bo4bobob3o$9b3ob2obo3bo$11bo4bo2b2o$13b3o$12b2o!
Last edited by WhiteHawk on February 16th, 2025, 10:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by hotdogPi »

Is there any way to turn the 46×47 into 45×48 to get the second "match" like you did with 1840?
User:HotdogPi/My discoveries

Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

Surprise reduction of Guntrue_2960 from 4453 to 3960 cells using LCM(37,80).

Code: Select all

x = 52, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
36b2o4b2o$36bobo2bobo$38bo2bo$37bo4bo$37bo4bo$37bo4bo$39b2o$46b2o$46b
2obo$50bo$23b2o22bo$24bo13bo9bob2o$24bobo10bobo10b2o$25b2o9bo3bo$20bo
16bobo$20b3o15bo$23bo$22bo18b2o$22bo3bo14b2o2$24bobo$25bo17b2o$43bo$44b
3o$46bo$13b2o$14bo5bo7b3o$14bobo2bobo7b2o$9b2o4b2o12b2o$5b2o3bo$5bo2b
o$6b4o$23b3o$4b6o15bo5b2obo$3bo2bo2bo13b3o5b2ob3o$3b2o32bo$31b2ob3o$16b
2o7bo6bobo$15bob2o5bobobo3bo$9b2o6b2o4bob2ob3obo$8b3o5b3o4bo7bo$6b5o3b
obo5b2o6bo$7bo5bo16b2o$4bo9bo$4bo2bo$4bo4b2o$9b2o$6bo3bo$10bo$7bo3bo$
7bo3bo$8bo$8bo3bo$8b2o$8b2o4bo$11bo2bo$4bo9bo$5bo5bo$2bobo3b5o$3o5b3o
$2o6b2o$2obo$b2o2$14b2o$9bo2bo2bo$9b6o2$9b4o$10bo2bo$8bo3b2o$8b2o!
EDIT: even better (3960 -> 2576):

Code: Select all

x = 44, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
27b2o4b2o$27bobo2bobo$29bo2bo$28b2o2b2o$27b3o2b3o$29bo2bo$38bo2$36bob
3o$38b2obo$14b2o22bob2o$15bo14bo8b3obo$9b2o4bobo12bobo$5b2o3bo5b2o15b
o7bo$5bo2bo22b2o$6b4o21bo2$4b6o$3bo2bo2bo$3b2o12bo$16bobo$15bo2bo15b2o
$16b2o16bo$10bo24b3o$8b2ob2o24bo$8b2o17$9b2o$6b2ob2o$8bo$b2o$o2bo$obo
$bo12b2o$9bo2bo2bo$9b6o2$9b4o$10bo2bo$8bo3b2o$8b2o!
EDIT 2:

guntrue_2320 (Undefined -> 2024)

Code: Select all

x = 42, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
26b2o4b2o$26bobo2bobo$28bo2bo$27bo4bo$27bo4bo$27bo4bo$29b2o$36b2o$36b
2obo$40bo$13b2o22bo$14bo13bo9bob2o$14bobo10bobo10b2o$15b2o9bo3bo$27bo
bo$28bo2$13b2o16b2o$13bo2bo14b2o2$11bo5bo$10bo22b2o$11bo4bo16bo$12b3o
19b3o$36bo$8bo7b2o$8bo7bobo$2b2o4bo9bo$bo9bo6b2o$2bo4bobobo$3bo7bo$6b
o8b2o$2bo3bobo6bobo$bo15bo$o8bo7b2o$obob2obobo$bo7bo$6bo11b2o$6bo8b2o
2bo$6bo4bo2bob3o$11b4o$8bo6b4o$8b6obo2bo$12bobo$10bo$10b2o!
Last edited by WhiteHawk on February 16th, 2025, 2:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by EvinZL »

WhiteHawk wrote: February 16th, 2025, 2:04 pm Surprise reduction of Guntrue_2960 from 4453 to 3960 cells using LCM(37,80).

Code: Select all

x = 52, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
EDIT: even better (3960 -> 2576):

Code: Select all

x = 44, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
27b2o4b2o$27bobo2bobo$29bo2bo$28b2o2b2o$27b3o2b3o$29bo2bo$38bo2$36bob
3o$38b2obo$14b2o22bob2o$15bo14bo8b3obo$9b2o4bobo12bobo$5b2o3bo5b2o15b
o7bo$5bo2bo22b2o$6b4o21bo2$4b6o$3bo2bo2bo$3b2o12bo$16bobo$15bo2bo15b2o
$16b2o16bo$10bo24b3o$8b2ob2o24bo$8b2o17$9b2o$6b2ob2o$8bo$b2o$o2bo$obo
$bo12b2o$9bo2bo2bo$9b6o2$9b4o$10bo2bo$8bo3b2o$8b2o!
behold, the power of long skinny rectangles (2576 -> 2405)

Code: Select all

x = 65, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
47b2o4b2o$47bobo2bobo$49bo2bo$48bo4bo$48bo4bo$48bo4bo$50b2o5b3o$56bo$
56bo3bo$48b2o2b2o2bo2bobo$34b2o22bobo2bo$35bo11b3o9bo3bo$35bobo7b2o2b
o13bo$36b2o3bo3b3ob2o9b3o$40b5obo$39b2ob5o$40bob2o2bo4bo$41b5o3b2o$32b
o9b3o5bo$30b4o$6b2o21bo3bo$5bobo21b3o22b2o$b2o2bo10bo37bo$bobobo9b3o37b
3o$3bobo4b2o2bo3bo38bo$2b2obobo2b3o2b3obo4bo$o2bob2o5bo6b2o2b2o6bo5b2o
bobo$2o17bo4bob3o2b3o2bobob2obo$25bo3bo2b2o4bo4bo$26b3o9bob3o$27bo10b
obo$12b3o21bobo$10bo3bo20bob2o$10b4o21bo$11bo22b2o22bo$59bo$57b3o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

guntrue_2480 reduced from 3596 to 2679:

Code: Select all

x = 56, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
39b2o4b2o$39bobo2bobo$41bo2bo$40bo4bo$40b2o2b2o$17bo24b2o$15b3o32bo$14b
o$14b2o32bob3o$50b2obo$11b2o13b2o10bobo9bob2o$10bo2bo13bo10bobo10b3ob
o$11bobo13bob2o$5bob2o3bo15bo11b3o10bo$5b2obo23bo5bo2bo$41bo$30bobo7b
ob2o$31b2o3bo2b3ob2o$27bobo7bo4bo$13bo12bo$11b2o14bo3bo$11b3o6bo8bobo
14b2o$19bobo24bo$2o16b2ob2o24b3o$bo11b3o3bobob2o3b2o19bo$bobo2b3o3bo3b
o2bo5bo7b2o$2b2o7bo5bo2bo3bo3b3o2bobo$7b2o3b2obobo3b3o11bo$14b2ob2o16b
2o$15bobo$5bobo8bo6b3o$5bo3bo14b2o$10bo12bo$7bobo4$28bob2o$24bo3b2obo
$23bobo$23bo2bo$24b2o2$21b2o$22bo$19b3o$19bo!
EDIT: Period-multiple reductions using tremi-snark (other period-multiple guns are coming soon)

guntrue_8880 (4225 -> 2576):

Code: Select all

x = 44, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
27b2o4b2o$27bobo2bobo$29bo2bo$28b2o2b2o$27b3o2b3o$29bo2bo$38bo2$36bob
3o$38b2obo$14b2o22bob2o$15bo14bo8b3obo$9b2o4bobo12bobo$5b2o3bo5b2o15b
o7bo$5bo2bo22b2o$6b4o21bo2$4b6o$3bo2bo2bo$3b2o12bo$16bobo$15bo2bo15b2o
3b2o$16b2o16bo3bobo$10bo24b4o$8b2ob2o26bo$8b2o27b3o$36bo$36b2o7$26b2o
$25bobo8bo$25bo9bobo$24b2o9bobo$36bo4$9b2o22b2ob2o$6b2ob2o18b2o2b2obo
3b2o$8bo20bo6bobo2bo$b2o27b7ob2o$o2bo33bo$obo29b4obo$bo12b2o16bo2b2o$
9bo2bo2bo$9b6o2$9b4o$10bo2bo$8bo3b2o$8b2o!
guntrue_7440 (3944 -> 2793):

Code: Select all

x = 57, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
39b2o4b2o$39bobo2bobo$41bo2bo$40bo4bo$40bo4bo$17bo22bo4bo3b2o$15b3o24b
2o$14bo32bo3bo$14b2o31bo4bo$49bobobo$11b2o13b2o22bobobo$10bo2bo13bo23b
o4bo$11bobo13bobo22bo3bo$5bob2o3bo15b2o11bo$5b2obo31b3o10b2o$40b3o2$33b
o9b2o$31bobo10bo$20b2o10b2o10bo$11b2o7b2o$11b2ob2o4b2o24b2o3b2o$10bo5b
o2b2o2b3o20bo3bobo$2o9bob2obo2b2obo2bo21b4o$bo13bo4bo4bo25bo$bobo18bo
bo8b2o14b3o$2b2o8bobo18bobo12bo$11bo4bo4bo13bo12b2o$11bo2bob2o2bob2ob
o9b2o$11b3o2b2o2bo5bo$15b2o4b2ob2o$15b2o7b2o$15b2o2$38b2o$37bobo8bo$37b
o9bobo$28bob2o4b2o9bobo$24bo3b2obo16bo$23bobo$23bo2bo$24b2o$45b2ob2o$
21b2o18b2o2b2obo3b2o$22bo18bo6bobo2bo$19b3o20b7ob2o$19bo29bo$44b4obo$
44bo2b2o!
guntrue_6960 (4810 -> 2156):

Code: Select all

x = 42, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
26b2o4b2o$26bobo2bobo$28bo2bo$27bo4bo$27bo4bo$27bo4bo$29b2o$36b2o$36b
2obo$40bo$13b2o22bo$14bo13bo9bob2o$14bobo10bobo10b2o$15b2o9bo3bo$27bo
bo$28bo2$13b2o16b2o$13bo2bo14b2o2$11bo5bo$10bo22b2o3b2o$11bo4bo16bo3b
obo$12b3o19b4o$38bo$8bo7b2o18b3o$8bo7bobo16bo$2b2o4bo9bo16b2o$bo9bo6b
2o$2bo4bobobo$3bo7bo$6bo8b2o$2bo3bobo6bobo$bo15bo$o8bo7b2o6b2o$obob2o
bobo14bobo8bo$bo7bo14bo9bobo$6bo11b2o3b2o9bobo$6bo8b2o2bo15bo$6bo4bo2b
ob3o$11b4o$8bo6b4o$8b6obo2bo13b2ob2o$12bobo13b2o2b2obo3b2o$10bo17bo6b
obo2bo$10b2o17b7ob2o$36bo$31b4obo$31bo2b2o!
guntrue_6480 (3082 -> 2585):

Code: Select all

x = 55, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
28b2o4b2o$28bobo2bobo$30bo2bo$29bo4bo$29bo4bo$29bo4bo$31b2o$38b2o$38b
2obo$42bo$15b2o22bo$16bo13bo9bob2o$16bobo10bobo10b2o$17b2o9bo3bo$29bo
bo$30bo2$15b2o16b2o$15b2o16b2o3$35b2o$35bo$13b2o21b3o$14b2o22bo4bo$10b
o4bo25b3o$10bo3bo25bo$10b2o7b3o18b2o$19bo$49b2o$2o21bo25bobo$2o5b2o11b
ob2o27bo$6b2obo11b2o5b2o21bob2o$6bo21b2o18b2obobo$48b2obobo$10bo31b2o
7bob2o$8b3o7b2o12b2o7bo2bo3b4o2bo$15bo3bo11bobo8b2o4bo3b2o$14bo4bo11b
o18b2o$14b2o14b2o19bo$15b2o32bo$49b2o4$13b2o$13b2o!
guntrue_5520 (2592 -> 1960) -- EDIT 5: reduced using Karel's p15 to BB 1880

Code: Select all

x = 37, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
21b2o4b2o$21bobo2bobo$23bo2bo$22bo4bo$22bo4bo$22bo4bo$24b2o$31b2o$31b
2obo$35bo$8b2o22bo$9bo13bo9bob2o$9bobo10bobo10b2o$10b2o9bo3bo$22bobo$
23bo2$8b2o16b2o$2bo5b2o16b2o$b3o$o3bo$2ob2o23b2o$28bo$b3o25b3o$b3o27b
o6$3b2ob2o$3b2ob2o$3b2ob2o$bob2ob2obo7bo$b3o3b3o6b3o5bo$2bo5bo6b5o3bo
bo$23bobo$22b2obo3$22b2obo$23bobo$15b5o3bobo$16b3o5bo$b2o5b2o7bo$b2o5b
2o!
guntrue_4080 (2668 ->2496):

Code: Select all

x = 48, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
30b2o4b2o$30bobo2bobo$32b4o$30bo2b2o2bo$30bo2b2o2bo$32bo2bo$41bo$9bo30b
obo$8bobo28bo3bo$6b3obo29bo3bo$5bo4bob2o3b2o22bo3bo$5bobobobobo4bo12b
3o8bo3bo$o5b2obobo6bobo9bo3bo8bobo$3o7bobo6b2o9bo3bo9bo$3bo7bo18bo3bo
$2bo28b3o$bo20b2o$b2o4bobo12b2o11b2o$6b3obobo5bo16b2o$6bo2b3o5bobo$15b
2o2b2o$2b2o11b2ob2o17b2o$3bo11b2ob2o17bo$3bobo11bo20b3o$4b2o4b2o28bo$
10bo2bo$11b3o$12bo3bo28bo$15b3o25b3o$15bo2bo23bo$17b2o4b2o17b2o$11bo11b
obo$9b2ob2o11bo$9b2ob2o11b2o$8b2o2b2o$9bobo5b3o2bo$10bo5bobob3o$19bob
o4b2o4b2o$27bo3bobo8bo$26bo4bo9bobo$17bo7bo4b2o9bobo$16bobo7b3o13bo$17b
obob2o5bob2o$15bobobobobo5bobo$14bobobo4bo$14bobobob3o16b2ob2o$15bo3b
2o14b2o2b2obo3b2o$35bo6bobo2bo$36b7ob2o$43bo$38b4obo$38bo2b2o!
guntrue_3120 (2856 -> 1813) -- EDIT 5: reduced using Karel's p15 to BB 1786 :

Code: Select all

x = 46, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
19b2o4b2o$19bobo2bobo$21bo2bo$20bo4bo$20b6o$21b4o4b2o2$27bo3bo$27bo4b
o$29bobobo$6b2o13b3o6bobobo$7bo13bob2o6bo4bo$7bobo7bo3bo2b2o6bo3bo$8b
2o6b2o4b4o$3bo11bobo3bobo9b2o$3b3o8b2o5b2o$6bo8b2o5b2o$5b2o9bo4b3o3$7b
3o$26b2o$26bo$7b3o17b3o$29bo$2bo11bo17b2o3bo2bo3b2o$bobo9bobo16b5o4b5o
$bo2bob2ob2obo2bo16b2o3bo2bo3b2o$2obobobobobobob2o$bo2b2obobob2o2bo$b
o4b2ob2o4bo$2b3o7b3o20b2o4b2o$4bob2ob2obo21bo8bo$5bobobobo21bo2bo4bo2b
o$34bo8bo$35b2o4b2o!
guntrue_1680 (2538 -> 2058) -- EDIT 5: reduced using Karel's p15 to BB ... 1680! :

Code: Select all

x = 37, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
21b2o4b2o$21bobo2bobo$23bo2bo$22bo4bo$22b2o2b2o$24b2o2$31b3o$31b3o$31b
3o$8b2o24b3o$9bo24b3o$9bobo14bo7b3o$10b2o13bo$b2o4bo17bobo$b3ob2obo16b
2o$o7bo$5b2ob2o$2bo3bo2bo$2bo5bo$bo2bo3bo$b2ob2o22b2o$2bo7bo17bo$2bob
2ob3o19b3o$3bo4b2o21bo3$11b3o$24bobo$10bo3bo4b2o4b2o$10bo3bo3bo2bo3bo
$21bo$11b3o3b4o$18bo$18bo$11b3o3b4o$21bo$10bo3bo3bo2bo$10bo3bo4b2o2$11b
3o!
EDIT 2: Reductions using quadri-snark:

(EDIT 4: forgot about 31,80 multipliers) guntrue_9920 (4402 -> 2793):

Code: Select all

x = 55, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
39b2o4b2o$39bobo2bobo$41bo2bo$40bo4bo$40bo4bo$17bo22bo4bo$15b3o24b2o$
14bo34b2o$14b2o33b2obo$53bo$11b2o13b2o22bo$10bo2bo13bo13bo9bob2o$11bo
bo13bobo10bobo10b2o$5bob2o3bo15b2o9bo3bo$5b2obo31bobo$41bo$31b2o$31b2o
11b2o$44b2o$13b2o$13b3o$13b3o30b2o3b2o$27b3o16bo3bobo$2o24b2o2bo16b4o
$bo18b2o3bo4bo20bo$bobo5bo10b2o4b4o3b2o14b3o$2b2o3b4o4b2o10bo5bobo12b
o$6bo4bo3b2o18bo12b2o$6bo2b2o24b2o$7b3o$21b3o$21b3o$22b2o10b2o$33bo2b
o$33bobobo$34bob3o6b2o$36b3o6b2o$28bob2o$24bo3b2obo$23bobo$23bo2bo$24b
2o$45b2ob2o$21b2o18b2o2b2obo3b2o$22bo18bo6bobo2bo$19b3o20b7ob2o$19bo29b
o$44b4obo$44bo2b2o!
guntrue_9280 (Undefined -> 2200):

Code: Select all

x = 42, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
26b2o4b2o$26bobo2bobo$28bo2bo$27bo4bo$27bo4bo$27bo4bo$29b2o$36b2o$36b
2obo$40bo$13b2o22bo$14bo13bo9bob2o$14bobo10bobo10b2o$15b2o9bo3bo$27bo
bo$28bo2$13b2o16b2o$13bo2bo14b2o2$11bo5bo$10bo22b2o$11bo4bo16bo$12b3o
19b3ob2o$36bobo$8bo7b2o21bo$8bo7bobo18b3o$2b2o4bo9bo17bo$bo9bo6b2o16b
2o$2bo4bobobo$3bo7bo$6bo8b2o$2bo3bobo6bobo$bo15bo4b2o$o8bo7b2o2bo2bo$
obob2obobo11bobobo$bo7bo12bob3o9bo$6bo11b2o4b3o8bobo$6bo8b2o2bo15bobo
$6bo4bo2bob3o17bo$11b4o$8bo6b4o$8b6obo2bo$12bobo18b2ob2o$10bo18b2o2b2o
bo3b2o$10b2o17bo6bobo2bo$30b7ob2o$37bo$32b4obo$32bo2b2o!
guntrue_7360 (3430 -> 1960):

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x = 40, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
22b2o4b2o$22bobo2bobo$24bo2bo$23b2o2b2o$22b3o2b3o$24bo2bo4b2o2$30bo3b
o$30bo4bo$32bobobo$9b2o12b3o7bobobo$10bo23bo4bo$10bobo8bo5bo7bo3bo$11b
2o8bo5bo$21bo5bo8b2o2$2b3o18b2o2bo$2b3o4b2o14b2obo$bo3bo3b2o15bobo$o5b
o$b2ob2o$29b2o3b2o$b2ob2o23bo3bobo$o5bo23b4o$bo3bo28bo$2b3o27b3o$2b3o
26bo$31b2o5$17b2o$b2o7b2o4bo2bo$bob2o3b2obo4bobo$bo3bobo3bo5bob2o10bo
$b2o2bobo2b2o6b3o9bobo$2b3o3b3o8b2o9bobo$3bo5bo21bo4$28b2ob2o$24b2o2b
2obo3b2o$2b2o5b2o13bo6bobo2bo$2b2o5b2o14b7ob2o$32bo$27b4obo$27bo2b2o!
guntrue_5440 (4224 -> 2192)

Code: Select all

x = 52, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
30b2o4b2o$30bobo2bobo$32b4o$30bo2b2o2bo$30bo2b2o2bo$32bo2bo$41bo$9bo30b
obo$8bobo28bo3bo$6b3obo29bo3bo$5bo4bob2o3b2o22bo3bo$5bobobobobo4bo12b
3o8bo3bo$o5b2obobo6bobo9bo3bo8bobo$3o7bobo6b2o9bo3bo9bo$3bo7bo18bo3bo
$2bo28b3o$bo20b2o$b2o4bobo12b2o11b2o$6b3obobo5bo16b2o$6bo2b3o5bobo$15b
2o2b2o$2b2o11b2ob2o17b2o$3bo11b2ob2o17bo$3bobo11bo20b3o$4b2o4b2o28bo$
10bo2bo$11b3o$12bo3bo$15b3o$15bo2bo$17b2o4b2o$11bo11bobo23bo$9b2ob2o11b
o21b3o$9b2ob2o11b2o19bo$8b2o2b2o32b2o$9bobo5b3o2bo$10bo5bobob3o$19bob
o4b2o$27bo$26bo5b2o$17bo7bo5bo2bo$16bobo7b3o2bobo$17bobob2o5bo3bob2o10b
o$15bobobobobo9b3o9bobo$14bobobo4bo10b2o9bobo$14bobobob3o23bo$15bo3b2o
3$43b2ob2o$39b2o2b2obo3b2o$39bo6bobo2bo$40b7ob2o$47bo$42b4obo$42bo2b2o
!
guntrue_4160 (3248 -> 1887):

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x = 37, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
19b2o4b2o$19bobo2bobo$21bo2bo$20bo4bo$20b6o$21b4o4b2o2$27bo3bo$27bo4b
o$29bobobo$6b2o13b3o6bobobo$7bo13bob2o6bo4bo$7bobo7bo3bo2b2o6bo3bo$8b
2o6b2o4b4o$3bo11bobo3bobo9b2o$3b3o8b2o5b2o$6bo8b2o5b2o$5b2o9bo4b3o3$7b
3o$26b2o$26bo$7b3o17b3o$29bo$2bo11bo$bobo9bobo17bo$bo2bob2ob2obo2bo15b
3o$2obobobobobobob2o13bo$bo2b2obobob2o2bo14b2o$bo4b2ob2o4bo$2b3o7b3o$
4bob2ob2obo$5bobobobo$16b2o$15bo2bo$15bobo$16bob2o10bo$17b3o9bobo$18b
2o9bobo$30bo4$27b2ob2o$23b2o2b2obo3b2o$23bo6bobo2bo$24b7ob2o$31bo$26b
4obo$26bo2b2o!
guntrue_2240 (Undefined -> 1960):

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x = 40, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
22b2o4b2o$22bobo2bobo$24bo2bo$23bo4bo$23bo4bo$23bo4bo$25b2o$32b2o$32b
2obo$36bo$9b2o22bo$10bo23bob2o$10bobo23b2o$11b2o12b2o$2b2o4bo15bo2b2o
$2b3ob2obo14b2ob2o$bo7bo15b3o$6b2ob2o$3bo3bo2bo$3bo5bo$2bo2bo3bo$2b2o
b2o22b2o3b2o$3bo7bo17bo3bobo$3bob2ob3o19b4o$4bo4b2o23bo$32b3o$31bo$31b
2o2$28bo$29bo$27b3o$17b2o$16bo2bo$16bobobo$17bob3o9bo$19b3o8bobo$30bo
bo$31bo4$28b2ob2o$24b2o2b2obo3b2o$24bo6bobo2bo$25b7ob2o$32bo$27b4obo$
27bo2b2o!
EDIT 3: x2 multipliers (all using CC semi-snark, though perhaps another reflector could be used):

guntrue_6880 (Undefined -> 2401)

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x = 49, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
30b2o4b2o$30bobo2bobo$32bo2bo$31bo4bo$31bo4bo$31bo4bo$33b2o$10b2o28b2o
$8b3o29b2obo$3b2o2bo4bo31bo$3bo3bob2ob3o2b2o22bo$4b3obobo4bo2bo13bo9b
ob2o$6bobo3b3o3bobo10bobo10b2o$6bobobobo6b2o9bo3bo$bo5b2ob2o19bobo$b3o
28bo$4bo$3b2o6b2o4b2o16b2o$11b2o4bo2bo14b2o$7b2o$7b2o$2o13bo4bo16b2o$
2o13bo2b2o17bo$7b2o6b2o21b3o$4b2o2bo13b2o16bo$3bo4bo13b2o$15b2o$15b2o
$3bo2bo4b2o$5b2o4b2o6b2o$19bo27b2o$20b3o24bo$12b2ob2o5bo22bobo$11bobo
bobo27b2o$9b3o3bobo$8bo4bobob3o10b2o$9b3ob2obo3bo9b2o$11bo4bo2b2o$13b
3o23b2o$12b2o25b2o6b2o$47b2o3$35bo$34bobo$34b2o6b2o$42bo$43b3o$45bo!
guntrue_5920 (4697 -> 2576)

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x = 46, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
27b2o4b2o$27bobo2bobo$29bo2bo$28b2o2b2o$27b3o2b3o$29bo2bo$38bo2$36bob
3o$38b2obo$14b2o22bob2o$15bo14bo8b3obo$9b2o4bobo12bobo$5b2o3bo5b2o15b
o7bo$5bo2bo22b2o$6b4o21bo2$4b6o$3bo2bo2bo$3b2o12bo$16bobo$15bo2bo15b2o
$16b2o16bo$10bo24b3o$8b2ob2o24bo$8b2o5$44b2o$44bo$42bobo$42b2o2$27b2o
$27b2o3$44b2o$37b2o5b2o$37b2o$9b2o$6b2ob2o21bo$8bo22bobo$b2o28b2o6b2o
$o2bo35bo$obo37b3o$bo12b2o26bo$9bo2bo2bo$9b6o2$9b4o$10bo2bo$8bo3b2o$8b
2o!
guntrue_4960 (3654 -> 2842)

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x = 58, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
39b2o4b2o$39bobo2bobo$41bo2bo$40bo4bo$40bo4bo$17bo22bo4bo4bo$15b3o24b
2o5b2o$14bo33bob2o$14b2o31b3o2bo$41bo7bobobo$11b2o13b2o13bo8bobobo$10b
o2bo13bo13bo9bo2b3o$11bobo13bobo22b2obo$5bob2o3bo15b2o7b3o3b3o7b2o$5b
2obo44bo$41bo$31b2o8bo$31b2o8bob3o$12b2o30b2o$12b3o2$15b2o29b2o$27b2o
17bo$2o24bo2bo17b3o$bo19bo4b2obo19bo$bobo16b2o5bobo3b2o$2b2o3bobo5b2o
16bobo$7bob2o4bo19bo$7bo2bo24b2o$8b2o$20b2o34b2o$56bo$22b3o29bobo$23b
2o29b2o2$39b2o$39b2o$28bob2o$24bo3b2obo16b2o$23bobo22b2o6b2o$23bo2bo29b
2o$24b2o2$21b2o21bo$22bo20bobo$19b3o21b2o6b2o$19bo31bo$52b3o$54bo!
guntrue_4640 (Undefined -> 2205)

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x = 45, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
26b2o4b2o$26bobo2bobo$28bo2bo$27bo4bo$27bo4bo$27bo4bo$29b2o$36b2o$36b
2obo$40bo$13b2o22bo$14bo13bo9bob2o$14bobo10bobo10b2o$15b2o9bo3bo$27bo
bo$28bo2$13b2o16b2o$13bo2bo14b2o2$11bo5bo$10bo22b2o$11bo4bo16bo$12b3o
19b3o$36bo$8bo7b2o$8bo7bobo$2b2o4bo9bo$bo9bo6b2o$2bo4bobobo$3bo7bo31b
2o$6bo8b2o26bo$2bo3bobo6bobo23bobo$bo15bo23b2o$o8bo7b2o$obob2obobo16b
2o$bo7bo16b2o$6bo11b2o$6bo8b2o2bo15b2o$6bo4bo2bob3o16b2o6b2o$11b4o28b
2o$8bo6b4o$8b6obo2bo$12bobo16bo$10bo19bobo$10b2o18b2o6b2o$38bo$39b3o$
41bo!
guntrue_4320 (10 cells smaller, 2548 -> 2538)

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x = 54, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
28b2o4b2o$28bobo2bobo$30bo2bo$29bo4bo$29bo4bo$29bo4bo$31b2o$38b2o$38b
2obo$42bo$15b2o22bo$16bo13bo9bob2o$16bobo10bobo10b2o$17b2o9bo3bo$29bo
bo$30bo2$15b2o16b2o$15b2o16b2o3$35b2o$35bo$13b2o21b3o$14b2o22bo$10bo4b
o$10bo3bo25b2o$10b2o7b3o18b2o$19bo2$2o21bo25b2o$2o5b2o11bob2o24bobo$6b
2obo11b2o5b2o19bo$6bo21b2o2$10bo32b2o$8b3o7b2o23b2o$15bo3bo$14bo4bo30b
2o$14b2o34bobo$15b2o35bo$37b2o13b2o$38bo$35b3o6b2o$35bo8b2o$13b2o$13b
2o!
guntrue_3680 (2448 -> 1960)

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x = 40, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
21b2o4b2o$21bobo2bobo$23bo2bo$22bo4bo$22bo4bo$22bo4bo$24b2o$31b2o$31b
2obo$35bo$8b2o22bo$9bo13bo9bob2o$9bobo10bobo10b2o$10b2o9bo3bo$22bobo$
23bo2$8b2o16b2o$2bo5b2o16b2o$b3o$o3bo$2ob2o23b2o$28bo$b3o25b3o$b3o27b
o6$3b2ob2o30b2o$3b2ob2o30bo$3b2ob2o28bobo$bob2ob2obo26b2o$b3o3b3o$2bo
5bo12b2o$21b2o2$30b2o$30b2o6b2o$38b2o3$26bo$b2o5b2o15bobo$b2o5b2o15b2o
6b2o$33bo$34b3o$36bo!
guntrue_2720 (4248 -> 2401)

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x = 49, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
30b2o4b2o$30bobo2bobo$32b4o$30bo2b2o2bo$30bo2b2o2bo$32bo2bo$41bo$9bo30b
obo$8bobo28bo3bo$6b3obo29bo3bo$5bo4bob2o3b2o22bo3bo$5bobobobobo4bo12b
3o8bo3bo$o5b2obobo6bobo9bo3bo8bobo$3o7bobo6b2o9bo3bo9bo$3bo7bo18bo3bo
$2bo28b3o$bo20b2o$b2o4bobo12b2o11b2o$6b3obobo5bo16b2o$6bo2b3o5bobo$15b
2o2b2o$2b2o11b2ob2o17b2o$3bo11b2ob2o17bo$3bobo11bo20b3o$4b2o4b2o28bo$
10bo2bo$11b3o$12bo3bo$15b3o$15bo2bo$17b2o4b2o22b2o$11bo11bobo21bo$9b2o
b2o11bo19bobo$9b2ob2o11b2o18b2o$8b2o2b2o$9bobo5b3o2bo7b2o$10bo5bobob3o
7b2o$19bobo4b2o$27bo11b2o$26bo12b2o6b2o$17bo7bo21b2o$16bobo7b3o$17bob
ob2o5bo$15bobobobobo11bo$14bobobo4bo10bobo$14bobobob3o11b2o6b2o$15bo3b
2o21bo$43b3o$45bo
guntrue_2080 (2912 -> 1862)

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x = 38, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
19b2o4b2o$19bobo2bobo$21bo2bo$20bo4bo$20b2o2b2o$22b2o2$29b2o$29b2obo$
33bo$6b2o22bo$7bo14b2o7bob2o$7bobo11bo2bo8b2o$8b2o9bo4bo$3bo14b6o$3b3o
11b2obo$6bo11bobo$5bo13b2o$5bo3bo2$7bobo$8bo17b2o$26bo$27b3o$29bo$2bo
11bo$bobo3b3o3bobo$bobo2b2ob2o2bobo$2obobo5bobob2o$bo2b2obobob2o2bo$b
o4b2ob2o4bo20b2o$2b3o7b3o12bo8bo$4bob2ob2obo15bo5bobo$5bobobobo14b3o5b
2o2$19b2o$19b2o2$28b2o$28b2o6b2o$36b2o3$24bo$23bobo$23b2o6b2o$31bo$32b
3o$34bo!
guntrue_1120 (2397 -> 2009)

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x = 41, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
22b2o4b2o$22bobo2bobo$24bo2bo$23bo4bo$23b2o2b2o$25b2o$33bo$32bobo$24b
o6bo3bo$23bob2o5bo3bo$9b2o16b2o4bo3bo$10bo11bo6bo4bo3bo$10bobo8b3o6bo
4bobo$11b2o8bo3bobobo6bo$3bo3b2o12bo2bo3bo$2b4o3bo11bo2bo$bo5bobo$o2b
o5b2o14b2o$5bob2o3bo12b2o$3b2o3b2o$o3b2obo$2b2o5bo2bo16b2o$3bobo5bo17b
o$3bo3b4o19b3o$4b2o3bo13bo8bo$21bobo$22b2o4$39b2o$39bo$37bobo$37b2o2$
22b2o$22b2o2$31b2o$31b2o6b2o$39b2o3$27bo$26bobo$26b2o6b2o$34bo$35b3o$
37bo!
EDIT 4: All periods that got reduced: 1120, 1680, 2080, 2240, 2480, 2720, 3120, 3680, 4080, 4160, 4320, 4640, 4960, 5440, 5520, 5920, 6480, 6880, 6960, 7360, 7440, 8880, 9280, 9920
Last edited by WhiteHawk on February 7th, 2026, 12:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by WhiteHawk »

iNoMed wrote: February 18th, 2025, 5:05 am Here's a seemingly-new 74-cell period-18 century shuttle, created from a fusion of the previously-known period-16 and period-20 century shuttles:
Doublepost for simplicity of just keeping everything more organized (also this gun has a period below 1000)

Reduction to guntrue_720 from 1431 to 1376 using new sparky century shuttle

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x = 43, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
25b2o4b2o$25bobo2bobo$27bo2bo$26bo4bo$26bo4bo$26bo4bo3b2o$28b2o$33bo3b
o$33bo4bo$35bobobo$12b2o22bobobo$13bo14bo8bo4bo$13bobo12b3o7bo3bo$14b
2o14bo$3bo5bo18b3o8b2o$2bobo4b3o$2bobo7bo$2o2b2o5b2o$bobo3bo$o2b3obo$
obo$bob2obo9bo15b2o$3bo2bo2bo2b2o2bo15bo$3bo2bo2bo2b2obo17b3o$bob2obo
28bo$obo14b3o$o2b3obo5bo4b3o$bobo3bo4bobo$2o2b2o7bo$2bobo$2bobo$3bo!
EDIT: P1440 gun reduced from 2346 to 2156

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x = 44, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
25b2o4b2o$25bobo2bobo$27bo2bo$26bo4bo$26bo4bo$26bo4bo3b2o$28b2o$33bo3b
o$33bo4bo$35bobobo$12b2o22bobobo$13bo14bo8bo4bo$13bobo12b3o7bo3bo$14b
2o14bo$3bo5bo18b3o8b2o$2bobo4b3o$2bobo7bo$2o2b2o5b2o$bobo3bo$o2b3obo$
obo$bob2obo9bo15b2o$3bo2bo2bo2b2o2bo15bo$3bo2bo2bo2b2obo17b3o$bob2obo
28bo$obo14b3o$o2b3obo5bo4b3o$bobo3bo4bobo$2o2b2o7bo$2bobo$2bobo37b2o$
3bo38bo$40bobo$40b2o2$25b2o$25b2o3$42b2o$35b2o5b2o$35b2o2$30bo$29bobo
$29b2o6b2o$37bo$38b3o$40bo!
Also, guntrue_2160 reduced again from 2162 to 2107.

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x = 43, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
25b2o4b2o$25bobo2bobo$27bo2bo$26bo4bo$26bo4bo$26bo4bo3b2o$28b2o$33bo3b
o$33bo4bo$35bobobo$12b2o22bobobo$13bo14bo8bo4bo$13bobo12b3o7bo3bo$14b
2o14bo$3bo5bo18b3o8b2o$2bobo4b3o$2bobo7bo$2o2b2o5b2o$bobo3bo$o2b3obo$
obo$bob2obo9bo15b2o3b2o$3bo2bo2bo2b2o2bo15bo3bobo$3bo2bo2bo2b2obo17b4o
$bob2obo30bo$obo14b3o15b3o$o2b3obo5bo4b3o13bo$bobo3bo4bobo19b2o$2o2b2o
7bo$2bobo$2bobo$3bo3$24b2o$23bobo8bo$23bo9bobo$22b2o9bobo$34bo4$31b2o
b2o$27b2o2b2obo3b2o$27bo6bobo2bo$28b7ob2o$35bo$30b4obo$30bo2b2o!
EDIT 2: small pop reduction to eater welds wherever it is applicable in any of my period-multiple guns

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x = 20, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2o3b2o6b2o$o3bobo6bo3bo$b4o9b4o$5bo$3b3o10b4o$2bo12bo3bo$2b2o11b2o!
Last edited by WhiteHawk on February 19th, 2025, 7:25 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by confocaloid »

Recently-posted updates to gun_720, gun_1120, gun_1440, gun_1680, gun_2080, gun_2160, gun_2240, gun_2720, gun_3120, gun_3680, gun_4080, gun_4160, gun_4320, gun_4640, gun_4960, gun_5440, gun_5520, gun_5920, gun_6480, gun_6880, gun_6960, gun_7360, gun_7440, gun_8880, gun_9280, gun_9920 submitted and processed in #9170469077.
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confocaloid wrote: October 24th, 2024, 11:07 am
/dpguns/readme.txt wrote: [...]
The goal of this collection is to include the smallest glider gun for each period. Size is measured by the area of the bounding rectangle of the gun. Every cell that is a part of the rotor or stator of the gun must be included in the bounding rectangle, excluding only the output gliders. [...]

[...]

If you send a large number of guns, it would be helpful if they are in the "canonical form" for this collection, which means:
1) The gliders travel to the lower right.
2) The pattern is in the last phase before a glider leaves the bounding box.
3) The width is greater than or equal to the height.
4) The initial pattern should recur exactly, except for the output gliders (and optional extra cells to mark the bounding box). Do not delete any extraneous sparks, etc.
[...]
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by nokangaroo »

Slightly less ugly reduction of gun_29:

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x = 98, y = 94, rule = LifeHistory
48.A$47.A.A$47.A2.A$43.2A.2A.2A36.A$28.2A13.2A.A2.A36.A.A$29.A9.2A4.B
.BA2.A34.A2.A$17.A11.A.AB4.2B2AB2.3B2.3A30.2A.2A.2A$16.A.A11.2AB4.4B
3.2B3A18.2A13.2A.A2.A$16.BA2B12.3B2.6B.BAB2.A18.A9.2A4.B.BA2.A$17.2B
13.8BA2B.BAB2A.A5.A11.A.AB4.2B2AB2.3B2.3A$17.3B10.10B2A3B.AB2.A4.A.A
11.2AB4.4B3.2B3A$17.3B5.2B.11B3A4B.B2A.2A2.BA2B12.3B2.6B.BAB2.A$15.6B
3.3B.6BA7B2AB4.A.A4.2B13.11B.BAB2A.A$14.2BA4BAB.8B2ABAB3A2BABAB3.A.A
4.3B10.15B.AB2.A$13.2B6ABA8BA4B2A3BA2BAB4.A5.2BA5.2B.13BABA2B.B2A.2A$
13.5B2A3BA6BA5B2A3B3A2B8.B3ABA3.3B.7B2A6BAB4.A.A$12.3B2ABA4B2A6BA2B4A
B3A4B7.B3A2BA2B.6B2A2BABAB2A3BA2B3.A.A$11.4B3AB4A2BA6B2A4BAB2A3B7.B2A
B3A9BA2B3A3BA7B4.A$11.2B3A3B2A5BA6BA3B2A5B8.16BABA2BABA2BABA4B$6.A4.B
A2BA3B2A4BA8BAB6A2B7.8B2A8BA15B$5.A.A3.BABA2B3ABAB2A8B.BA4BA2B7.15BA
8B2A8B$5.A.A4.B2A7BA6B.3B3.6B8.4BABA2BABA2BABA16B$4.2A.2AB.4B3A11B.2B
5.3B5.A4.7BA3B3A2BA9B3AB2AB$6.A2.BA.3B2A10B10.3B4.A.A3.2BA3B2ABABA2B
2A6B.2BA2B3AB$6.A.2ABAB.2BA8B13.2B4.A.A4.BA6B2A7B.3B3.AB3AB$7.A2.BAB.
6B2.4B11.2BAB2.2A.2AB.2BABA13B.2B5.A2B$8.3A2B3.4B3.4B11.A.A4.A2.BA.
15B10.3B$5.3A2.3B2.B2A2B4.4B11.A5.A.2ABAB.11B13.2B$5.A2.AB.B4.2A7.4B
17.A2.BAB.6B2.4B11.2BAB$7.A2.A.2A7.2A3.4B17.3A2B3.4B3.4B11.A.A$6.2A.
2A.2A8.A4.4B13.3A2.3B2.B2A2B4.4B11.A10.A$6.A2.A7.2A.A7.4B12.A2.AB.B4.
2A7.4B20.ABA$7.A.A8.A.2A7.4B13.A2.A.2A12.4B20.2B$8.A9.A3.B7.3BA11.2A.
2A.2A5.A7.4B18.A2BAB$16.2A.5A7.3BA13.A9.3A6.4B18.A.ABA.2A$17.A.A2.2A
2.A5.3AB9.2A.A12.A6.4B7.A10.A3B2A.A$17.A.A3.B3A6.4B7.A.A.2A2.2A6.2A7.
4B6.3A9.BA4.A$18.A3.2B8.6B6.A.A2.A3.A6.6B4.3BA8.A10.4A$22.A.2A.A4.7B
6.A.A2.3A9.B2AB2AB2.3BA6.A.A8.2B.A$20.5A.2A3.9B7.2A.A4.2A3.3B2A6B.3AB
5.A.AB7.AB.AB$20.3A9.9B4.A2.A.A4.2BA.3BA5B2A2B.4B5.A3B7.3AB$21.B10.7B
ABA3.2A2.3B.BA2B2.2BA6B2AB3.4B6.4B7.2A$14.2A7.2B6.9B2AB7.AB2A.B2.4BA
6BAB4.4B5.6B6.AB$15.A5.5B4.9B.A3B8.A.2A2.5B6AB6.4B4.7B3.BA.A$15.A.AB.
6B2.4B2A3B4.4B7.A.A4.4BA5B8.4B2.8B3.B2A$11.A4.2AB.11BA2BA2B5.4B5.2A2.
A5.B3A3B10.17B$5.2A4.3A4.14B2A2B7.4B7.2A5.2ABA4B10.16B$2.2A2.A2.2A3.A
3.B2A14B9.4B12.10B4.2A3.16B$.A.2A.A.A2.3A4.B2A16B8.4B11.6B.4B4.A2.17B
$A4.A.A.A.A6.12B5.2A9.4B9.6B3.4B3.A.A16B$.3A.B.A.A2B7.10B6.A11.4B4.B
2.2A5B4.4B3.2A.7BA6B$3.2A.BA2BA8.9B2A6.3A9.4B.6B3A3B5.4B7.5BABA4B$5.
3B2A.B.4B2.7B.BABA7.A10.10B2AB2AB6.4B7.10B$3.2A.12B2.5B3.A3B18.11B3AB
7.4B6.4BA5B$3.2A5.BA12B5.4B18.12B.B2A6.4B4.5B2A2B2A$8.2B3A9B8.4B18.2B
A7B2.BA.A6.4B4.6BA3B$6.B.B2AB2A8B9.4B10.2A6.2B2A3B7.A7.4B3.6B2A.2BA$
5.2AB2A3B2A7B3.BA5.4B9.A8.2A4B7.2A7.2B2A.7B3.ABA$5.2A2B2AB2A11BA.A5.
4B10.A7.4B18.2A8B6.B$6.20BA.A5.4B5.5A8.4B18.BA8B3.A.3A$6.18B.B2.A5.4B
4.A14.4B18.8B4.2A3.A$9.13B6.A.AB.7B2.B3A12.4B18.7B7.2A$9.12B8.2AB.7B
3.2B.A12.3BA17.7B3.A.2A$8.13B10.12B4A13.3BA15.8B3.2A.A$8.12B11.7B2A3B
AB2.2A12.3AB14.8B$6.16B9.7B2A2B.B3A2.A12.4B14.7B$6.2A2.13B8.10B3.B.A.
2A13.4B13.8B$7.A2.13B7.8B8.A17.4B12.7BAB$4.3A4.10B8.9B7.2A18.4B13.4BA
BA$4.A6.12B5.4B2.3B29.4B9.B.4BABAB$13.10B4.4B3.5B28.BABA7.2AB.3B2A2B$
11.13B2.4B7.2A29.B2AB6.2A8B$11.13B.2A2B8.A31.A3B6.8B$12.14B2A10.3A29.
4B5.8B$14.11BAB13.A30.4B6.B2.4B$13.13B46.4B10.2B$13.12B48.4B8.B2A$12.
13B49.3BA8.A.A.2A$8.B.18B47.ABAB5.A.A.2A.A$7.A20B48.2A2B4.2A$6.A.A11B
2AB2A2B2A48.4B$7.AB3.7B2A3B2AB2A49.4B$12.8B2AB2AB.B51.4B$13.8B3A2B54.
4B$14.8BAB5.2A50.2BAB$16.12B.2A51.2B2A$17.4B.B.2A3B54.2A2B$23.A2BAB.
2A53.4B$22.2BA.A.B.3A52.4B$22.A.A.A.A4.A52.4B$20.3A2.A.A.2A.A54.4B$
19.A3.2A2.A2.2A56.3BA$20.3A4.2A60.3BA$22.A67.3AB!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by ElijahKen »

Using the CP semi-snark saves space in this design.
gun_1440 (2156 -> 1974):

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x = 42, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
25b2o4b2o$25bobo2bobo$27bo2bo$26b2o2b2o$25b3o2b3o$27bo2bo$36bo$35bobo$
34bo3bo$35bo3bo$12b2o22bo3bo$13bo23bo3bo$13bobo9bobo10bobo$14b2o9bobo
11bo$3bo5bo15bo$2bobo4b3o14b4o$2bobo7bo4b2o6bo3b2o$2o2b2o5b2o4b2o5b2o
4bo$bobo21bo3bo$o2b3o23bo$obo3bo$bob3obo5b3o16b2o$3bo3bo4bo2bo16bo3bo$
3bo3bo4bo20b4o$bob3obo5bo$obo3bo10b3o15b4o$o2b3o7bo4b3o13bo3bo$bobo8bo
bo19b2o$2o2b2o7bo$2bobo$2bobo23b3o$3bo23bo4bob2obo$27bo3bobo3bo$27bo4b
o4bo$28b2o5b2o$21b3o6bo3bo$21b3obo4bo3bo$22bobobo4b3o$23bo2bo$24b2o10b
o$32b2obobo$31bobobobo$28bo2bobobobob2o$28b4ob2o2bo2bo$32bo4b2o$30bobo
$30b2o!
EDIT:
gun_1120 (2009 -> 1880):

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x = 39, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
21b2o4b2o$21bobo2bobo$23bo2bo$22b2o2b2o$21b3o2b3o$23bo2bo4b2o2$29bo3bo
$29bo4bo$31bobobo$8b2o12b3o7bobobo$9bo23bo4bo$9bobo8bo5bo7bo3bo$10b2o
8bo5bo$7bo12bo5bo8b2o$2b2ob2obo$b2o5bo13b2o2bo$o2bo2bob2o14b2obo$o3b3o
3bo14bobo$o9bo$o3b3o3bo$b2obo2bo2bo17b2o$2bo5b2o18bo3bo$2bob2ob2o20b4o
$3bo$31b4o$30bo3bo$30b2o5b2o$36bobo$38bo$24bo$23bobo$23bobo$24bo2$17b
3o7b2o$17b3obo5b2o$18bobobo$19bo2bo$20b2o10bo$28b2obobo$27bobobobo$24b
o2bobobobob2o$24b4ob2o2bo2bo$28bo4b2o$26bobo$26b2o!
gun_2080 (1862 -> 1739):

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x = 37, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
19b2o4b2o$19bobo2bobo$21bo2bo$20b2o2b2o$19b3o2b3o$21bo2bo4b2o2$27bo3bo
$27bo4bo$29bobobo$6b2o12b3o7bobobo$7bo23bo4bo$7bobo8bo5bo7bo3bo$8b2o8b
o5bo$3bo14bo5bo8b2o$3b3o$6bo13b2o2bo$5b2o15b2obo$6b3o14bobo$7b3o$7b3o$
26b2o$26bo3bo$27b4o2$2bo11bo14b4o$bobo9bobo12bo3bo$bobo2b5o2bobo12b2o
5b2o$2obobobobobobob2o17bobo$bo2b2obobob2o2bo20bo$bo4b2ob2o4bo6bo$2b3o
7b3o6bobo$4bob2ob2obo8bobo$5bobobobo10bo2$15b3o7b2o$15b3obo5b2o$16bobo
bo$17bo2bo$18b2o10bo$26b2obobo$25bobobobo$22bo2bobobobob2o$22b4ob2o2bo
2bo$26bo4b2o$24bobo$24b2o!
EDIT 2:
gun_6880, gun_5920, gun_3680, gun_4640:

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x = 302, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
24b2o$24b2o5b2o$31bo$29bobo4b2o52b2o$29b2o4bobo51bo2bo173b2o$17b2o16bo
54bobo173b2o5bo$17b2o14b3o55bo26b2o152bobo$28bo2bo4b2o80bobo152bo$11bo
14b2obo3b3o2bo53b2o26bo2b2o70bo3bo$10bobo13bo9bobo56b2o14b2o6b2obobo
57b4o8bobobobo65bo$10bobo13bo6bob2ob2o50b2obo20b2o4bobo50b2o6b2o2bo6b
2o2bobo2b2o63bo$9b2ob2o13b4o8bo42b2o6b2o3bob2o10b2obo7bob2o49b2o5b2o2b
o7b2o7b2o62bobo4bo$7bo8b4o13b2ob2o44bo2bob2ob2obo3b2o10b2o3bob2ob2obo
2bo55bo2bo7b2o2bobo2b2o56b2o11bo$7b2ob2obo6bo13bobo47b2obo7bob2o10b2ob
o3b2o6b2o56b2o10bobobobo58bo11bobo3b3o$8bobo9bo13bobo48bobo4b2o20bob2o
77bo3bo56b2obo16b5o$8bo2b3o3bob2o14bo47bobob2o6b2o14b2o69b2o72bo2bob2o
12bobo2bo$9b2o4bo2bo64b2o2bo26b2o65bo2bo73b2obo14bob2o$11b3o14b2o6bo
50bobo37bo45b2o5b2o2bo15b2o6bo50bobo16bo4b2o6bo$11bo16b2o4b3o51b2o26bo
8b3o45b2o6b2o2bo14b2o4b3o49bo2bob2o18b2o4b3o$9bobo4b2o15bo81bobo6bo57b
4o19bo53b2o2b2o4b2o17bo$9b2o4bobo15b2o80bo2bo5b2o79b2o53bob2o6bo4b2o
11b2o$15bo100b2o142bobo4b3o6bo$14b2o5b2o97b2o137b2obobo2bo5b3o$21b2o
97b2o141b2o8bo3$10b2o89b2o79b2o81b2o$9b3o88b3o78b3o80b3o$8bob2o87bob2o
77bob2o79bob2o$7bobo22b3o63bobo22b3o53bobo22b3o55bobo22b3o$7bo2bo31bo
2b2o51bo2bo31bo2b2o41bo2bo31bo2b2o43bo2bo31bo2b2o$8b2o20bo5bo5b2o2bo
52b2o20bo5bo5b2o2bo42b2o20bo5bo5b2o2bo44b2o20bo5bo5b2o2bo$14b2o14bo5bo
4b5o59b2o14bo5bo4b5o49b2o14bo5bo4b5o51b2o14bo5bo4b5o$3b2o8bo2bo12bo6bo
57b2o8bo2bo12bo6bo47b2o8bo2bo12bo6bo49b2o8bo2bo12bo6bo$3bo10b2o12b2o
64bo10b2o12b2o54bo10b2o12b2o56bo10b2o12b2o$2obo26bob3o6b5o45b2obo26bob
3o6b5o35b2obo26bob3o6b5o37b2obo26bob3o6b5o$o2b3o4b2o16b2o12b2o2bo44bo
2b3o4b2o16b2o12b2o2bo34bo2b3o4b2o16b2o12b2o2bo36bo2b3o4b2o16b2o12b2o2b
o$b2o3bo3b2o12b2o16bo2b2o45b2o3bo3b2o12b2o16bo2b2o35b2o3bo3b2o12b2o16b
o2b2o37b2o3bo3b2o12b2o16bo2b2o$3b4o16bobo12b2o54b4o16bobo12b2o44b4o16b
obo12b2o46b4o16bobo12b2o$3bo15b2o2bo70bo15b2o2bo60bo15b2o2bo62bo15b2o
2bo$4b3o12bobobo13bo3bo53b3o12bobobo13bo3bo43b3o12bobobo13bo3bo45b3o
12bobobo13bo3bo$7bo13bob2o11bo4bo56bo13bob2o11bo4bo46bo13bob2o11bo4bo
48bo13bob2o11bo4bo$2b5o14bo13bobobo53b5o14bo13bobobo43b5o14bo13bobobo
45b5o14bo13bobobo$2bo17b2o12bobobo54bo17b2o12bobobo44bo17b2o12bobobo
46bo17b2o12bobobo$4bo27bo4bo57bo27bo4bo47bo27bo4bo49bo27bo4bo$3b2o13bo
13bo3bo57b2o13bo13bo3bo47b2o13bo13bo3bo49b2o13bo13bo3bo$19bo90bo80bo
82bo$17b3o14b2o72b3o14b2o62b3o14b2o64b3o14b2o!
Also gun_3960 (4784 -> 4400):

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x = 88, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
70b2o4b2o$70bobo2bobo$72b4o$70bo2b2o2bo$70bo2b2o2bo$72bo2bo$81bo$80bob
o$79bo3bo$47bo32bo3bo$46bobo8b2o22bo3bo$46bobo9bo12b3o8bo3bo$45b2ob2o
8bobo9bo3bo8bobo$54bo4b2o9bo3bo9bo$45b2ob2o3bobo14bo3bo$46bob2o4bo16b
3o$44bo12bo4b2o$44b2o6b6o3b3o11b2o$51bob5o17b2o$47b2o2bo$10b2o7bo9b2o
16b2o3b5o$10b2o7b3o7bo2b2o19b6o18b2o$22bo7b2ob3o20b3o2b2o14bo$21b2o13b
o24bobo14b3o$9bo20b2ob3o27bo16bo$8bobo19b2obo12b2o15b2o$9bo11b2o23bo$
6b3o11bo23bobo$6bo9bob2o3bo20b2o$16bo3b2o2b3obo$16bob3o2b2o3bo11bo$21b
o3b2obo11bo5bo$10b2o12bo14bobo4b2o$2bo6bobo10b2o16bo4bobo23b2o$bobo6bo
29bo30bobo$2bo23bo28b3o15b3o$13b2o10bobo9b2o12b3ob2o15bo3bo$12bo12b2o
11bo11bobo5bo13b2o2bo$8bob2o3bo19b3o11bo7b2o18b2o$8bo3b2o2b3obo14bo4b
2o8b3o25bo$8bob3o2b2o3bo19b2o29b2o4bo9bo$13bo3b2obo9bo29b3o8b2o4b2o6bo
bo$16bo11b3o23b2o7bo22b2o$14b2o11bo11b2o13bo5bobo$3bob2o19bobo11bo15b
2ob3o$b3ob2o20bo9b3o15b3o$o13b2o21bo$b3ob2o7bo$3b2o2bo7b3o7b2o$6b2o9bo
7b2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

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C_R_116 wrote: February 20th, 2025, 2:35 am AK-60:

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snip
Trivial reduction to a 600-cell bounding box by reducing the p10:

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x = 24, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
3b2o10b2o3b2o$4bo3b2o5bo3bobo$3bo5bo2b2obo3bo$3b2o4bobobob2ob2o$6b2obo
bo$b5obobob2ob2ob2obo$o8bo6b2ob2o$b3ob2ob2o$3b2o6$22b2o$22b2o$14bo$13b
ob2o$13bo2bo$3b2o9b3o$2bo2bo14b2o$2bobo15bobo$3bob2o15bo$4b3o15b2o$5b
2o!
Edit: It turns out we are now just 10 cells of bounding box away from somehow reducing the true-period period-120 glider gun (768-cell BB versus 759-cell BB):

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x = 24, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
3b2o10b2o3b2o$4bo3b2o5bo3bobo$3bo5bo2b2obo3bo$3b2o4bobobob2ob2o$6b2obo
bo3bo$b5obobobobo3b2obo$o4bo3bobo3bobob2o$b3o3bobo2bob3o$3bobo3bo3bo$
4b3obo$7bo2$14b2o$13b2obo$14bob2o4b2o$15b2o5b2o2$10b3o$9bo3bo$3b2o4bo
3bo$2bo2bo3bob2o7b2o$2bobobo13bobo$3bo2bo8bo6bo$7bo8bo5b2o$4bobo7b3o$
14bo2$10bo$5b3ob2o2b2o$5b4o4b2o$9b2o!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!
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Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by hotcrystal0 »

iNoMed wrote: February 20th, 2025, 2:43 am Edit: It turns out we are now just 10 cells of bounding box away from somehow reducing the true-period period-120 glider gun (768-cell BB versus 759-cell BB):

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x = 24, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
3b2o10b2o3b2o$4bo3b2o5bo3bobo$3bo5bo2b2obo3bo$3b2o4bobobob2ob2o$6b2obo
bo3bo$b5obobobobo3b2obo$o4bo3bobo3bobob2o$b3o3bobo2bob3o$3bobo3bo3bo$
4b3obo$7bo2$14b2o$13b2obo$14bob2o4b2o$15b2o5b2o2$10b3o$9bo3bo$3b2o4bo
3bo$2bo2bo3bob2o7b2o$2bobobo13bobo$3bo2bo8bo6bo$7bo8bo5b2o$4bobo7b3o$
14bo2$10bo$5b3ob2o2b2o$5b4o4b2o$9b2o!
Pulling in a corner (BB 736):

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x = 23, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
2b2o10b2o3b2o$3bo3b2o5bo3bobo$2bo5bo2b2obo3bo$2b2o4bobobob2ob2o$5b2ob
obo3bo$5obobobobo3b2obo$o3bo3bobo3bobob2o$2bo3bobo2bob3o$b2obo3bo3bo$
o2b3obo$2o4bo2$13b2o$12b2obo$13bob2o4b2o$14b2o5b2o2$9b3o$8bo3bo$2b2o4b
o3bo$bo2bo3bob2o7b2o$bobobo13bobo$2bo2bo8bo6bo$6bo8bo5b2o$3bobo7b3o$13b
o2$9bo$4b3ob2o2b2o$4b4o4b2o$8b2o!
Goodbye, Simkin Glider Gun.
131 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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