Immigration
- gmc_nxtman
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Immigration
Can somebody write a ruletable for immigration, that is, a three-state version of life where dead cells take the majority of their live neighbors when being born? (again, sorry to create a new topic for this)
- Alexey_Nigin
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Re: Immigration
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@RULE Immigration
@TABLE
n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var all1={0,1,2}
var all2={all1}
var all3={all1}
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all1,all2,all3,all4,all5,all6,all7,all8,all9,0
@COLORS
0 48 48 48
1 0 255 0
2 32 32 255Code: Select all
@RULE QuadLife
@TABLE
n_states:5
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
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var x2={x1}
var x3={x1}
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@COLORS
0 48 48 48
1 255 16 16
2 0 255 0
3 32 32 255
4 255 255 0There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't.
- confocaloid
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Re: Immigration
Is it feasible to enumerate all possible colourised variants of the spider spaceship (xq5_ug1hmgc865da808ad568cgmh1guz124w6yb6w421) in Immigration?
Several dozens of pseudorandom variants of the spider, the loafer and the copperhead, to show some possibilities:
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x = 82, y = 93, rule = Immigration
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x = 258, y = 110, rule = Immigration
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Re: Immigration
Some Lifeline discussion:
The Snark64 preserves the "checkerboard colour" of the reflected glider, but always converts all gliders to the same "Immigration colour"; it does not remember anything about reflected gliders:
The Bandersnatch changes the "checkerboard colour" of the lane-shifted glider. However, it preserves the "Immigration colour" (although the "allied form" of the glider is converted into a non-allied glider). The Bandersnatch doesn't remember anything about lane-shifted gliders:
I believe it's impossible to make a glider-to-glider device that would always toggle the "Immigration colour" of a non-allied glider (see below).
Which glider-to-glider conversions *are* possible, though?
Is there a (functionally stable stateless) glider reflector that converts an allied glider into an allied glider, and also preserves the "Immigration colour" of a non-allied glider?
A given glider in a given phase and location can be "Immigration-coloured" in four different ways (state-1, state-2, allied with state-1 majority, allied with state-2 majority). Is there a (functionally stable stateless) glider reflector that would preserve the distinctions between these four possibilities when reflecting a glider?
- Lifeline_Volume_2#Page_14
- Lifeline_Volume_3#Page_31
- Lifeline_Volume_4#Page_8
- Lifeline_Volume_7#Page_7
- Lifeline_Volume_9#Page_5
- Lifeline_Volume_10#Page_3
- Lifeline_Volume_11#Page_12
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.A27.A.A27.A.A27.A.A$16.A4.2A23.A4.2A23.A4.2A23.A4.2A53.A4.2A23.A4.2A
23.A4.2A23.A4.2A$12.4A.2A2.A2.A17.4A.2A2.A2.A17.4A.2A2.A2.A17.4A.2A2.
A2.A47.4A.2A2.A2.A17.4A.2A2.A2.A17.4A.2A2.A2.A17.4A.2A2.A2.A$12.A2.A.
A.A.A.2A17.A2.A.A.A.A.2A17.A2.A.A.A.A.2A17.A2.A.A.A.A.2A47.A2.A.A.A.A
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A.A23.A.A.A.A23.A.A.A.A53.A.A.A.A23.A.A.A.A23.A.A.A.A23.A.A.A.A$16.2A
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20.A29.A29.A29.A59.A29.A29.A29.A2$6.2A28.2A28.2A28.2A58.2A28.2A28.2A
28.2A$7.A7.2A20.A7.2A20.A7.2B20.A7.2B50.A7.2A20.A7.2A20.A7.2B20.A7.2B
$7.A.A5.2A20.A.A5.2A20.A.A5.2B20.A.A5.2B50.A.A5.2A20.A.A5.2A20.A.A5.
2B20.A.A5.2B$8.2A28.2A28.2A28.2A58.2A28.2A28.2A28.2A7$18.2A28.2A28.2A
28.2A58.2A28.2A28.2A28.2A$18.A29.A29.A29.A59.A29.A29.A29.A$19.3A27.3A
27.3A27.3A57.3A27.3A27.3A27.3A$21.A29.A29.A29.A59.A29.A29.A29.A7$3A
27.3B27.3A27.3B57.2AB27.2BA27.2AB27.2BA$2.A29.B29.A29.B59.B29.A29.B
29.A$.A29.B29.A29.B59.B29.A29.B29.A!
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3A$14.2A.A4.A31.2A.A4.A31.2A.A4.A31.2A.A4.A$14.A.A.A.A.A31.A.A.A.A.A
31.A.A.A.A.A31.A.A.A.A.A$16.A.A.2A4.2A28.A.A.2A4.2A28.A.A.2A4.2A28.A.
A.2A4.2A$8.2A5.A.A8.A21.2A5.A.A8.A21.2A5.A.A8.A21.2A5.A.A8.A$8.2A6.A
7.A.A21.2A6.A7.A.A21.2A6.A7.A.A21.2A6.A7.A.A$24.2A38.2A38.2A38.2A3$
13.2A38.2A38.2A38.2A$12.A2.A36.A2.A36.A2.A36.A2.A$13.2A38.2A38.2A38.
2A4$.2A38.2B38.2A38.2B$A.A37.B.B37.A.B37.B.A$2.A18.2A19.B18.2A19.B18.
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22.2A.A.A10.2A22.2A.A.A10.2A22.2A.A.A10.2A$4.A.2A.A.A32.A.2A.A.A32.A.
2A.A.A32.A.2A.A.A$10.2A3.2A3.4A26.2A3.2A3.4A26.2A3.2A3.4A26.2A3.2A3.
4A$15.2A4.A2.A30.2A4.A2.A30.2A4.A2.A30.2A4.A2.A$19.A3.2A34.A3.2A34.A
3.2A34.A3.2A$19.2A38.2A38.2A38.2A!
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x = 152, y = 28, rule = Immigration
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9.2A16.A10.2B9.2A16.A10.2B9.2A16.A10.2A9.2A16.A$13.2A10.2A.3A22.2A10.
2A.3A22.2A10.2A.3A22.2A10.2A.3A$25.2A.A36.2A.A36.2A.A36.2A.A7$28.2A
38.2A38.2A38.2A$19.A8.2A29.A8.2A29.A8.2A29.A8.2A$18.A.A37.A.A37.A.A
37.A.A$18.A2.A36.A2.A36.A2.A36.A2.A$19.2A38.2A38.2A38.2A$2.2A38.2A38.
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Which glider-to-glider conversions *are* possible, though?
Is there a (functionally stable stateless) glider reflector that converts an allied glider into an allied glider, and also preserves the "Immigration colour" of a non-allied glider?
A given glider in a given phase and location can be "Immigration-coloured" in four different ways (state-1, state-2, allied with state-1 majority, allied with state-2 majority). Is there a (functionally stable stateless) glider reflector that would preserve the distinctions between these four possibilities when reflecting a glider?
hotdogPi wrote: April 11th, 2024, 11:11 am In the Immigration rule, is there a color-changing glider reflector? Someone claimed to have posted one, but while it turns red to blue, blue remains blue and doesn't turn red. (Or whichever two colors are used.)
This is why I distinguish "color" and "colour", by the way.
confocaloid wrote: June 7th, 2024, 5:26 pmhotdogPi wrote: April 11th, 2024, 6:57 pmNope — blue stays blue. It needs to change in both directions.Unless I'm missing something obvious, that's impossible in Immigration (at least when all five alive cells of the input glider have the same state).
Define a "slip" as any modification of a pattern such that some blue cells might be modified into green cells but there are no other modifications apart from that. (As a special case, doing nothing to the pattern also counts as a "slip".)
Suppose that there's a blue input glider at generation 0, and there's a green output glider at generation T. Between those generations, a reaction happens, following the rules of Immigration.
Now, imagine that the generation 0 is manually modified in such a way that the input glider becomes green and there are no other modifications apart from that. Such a modification amounts to manually doing a "slip" at generation 0. Under the rules of Immigration, the only possible consequence of a "slip" at generation 0 is a "slip" at generation 1 (which will then lead to a "slip" at generation 2, etc. etc. until reaching generation T). Since a "slip" cannot modify a green cell into a blue cell, it's impossible for the output glider to be modified from green to blue.
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127:1 B3/S234c User:Confocal/R (isotropic CA, incomplete)
Unlikely events happen.
My silence does not imply agreement, nor indifference. If I disagreed with something in the past, then please do not construe my silence as something that could change that.
Unlikely events happen.
My silence does not imply agreement, nor indifference. If I disagreed with something in the past, then please do not construe my silence as something that could change that.
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Re: Immigration
Despite the toad failing to be a still life, that factory might be useful as a single-pulse way to reconstruct a p2 one-time glider turner which converts a glider of the other "Immigration colour" into the "allied form" of the glider:hth3 wrote: February 16th, 2025, 11:14 am Dove to toadCode: Select all
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#C [[ GRID STOP 538 ]]
x = 71, y = 88, rule = Immigration
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31.3A.2A$33.A.2A15$60.2A$60.2A$21.2A$21.2A5$7.2A$8.A52.2A$8.A.A50.A.A
$9.2A52.A$63.2A6$9.A$9.A.A$9.3A$11.A19.2A$32.A6.2A$21.2A6.3A7.A$21.2A
2.2A2.A7.A.A$25.A.A.A7.2A$2.2A23.A.2A$3.A23.A$3A23.2A$A!
127:1 B3/S234c User:Confocal/R (isotropic CA, incomplete)
Unlikely events happen.
My silence does not imply agreement, nor indifference. If I disagreed with something in the past, then please do not construe my silence as something that could change that.
Unlikely events happen.
My silence does not imply agreement, nor indifference. If I disagreed with something in the past, then please do not construe my silence as something that could change that.
Re: Immigration
The loafer has a useful trait in this rule, as it has 4 parts that can be either state without changing state or another part's state.
The first part is the loaf and dot:
second is this tetromino:
Third is this:
And 4th is this:
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I have LLS and qfind.
I manage the Travelling Ts pattern collection. It can be found on the first post in the thread.
B3/S23-a5 IS OMNIPERIODIC!!!!!
User:ThePlayzr
I have LLS and qfind.
I manage the Travelling Ts pattern collection. It can be found on the first post in the thread.
B3/S23-a5 IS OMNIPERIODIC!!!!!
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Re: Immigration
Actually you can have a half loaf:ThePlayzr wrote: August 16th, 2025, 6:49 am The loafer has a useful trait in this rule, as it has 4 parts that can be either state without changing state or another part's state.
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Re: Immigration
You can also have this:breaker's glider gun wrote: August 16th, 2025, 8:26 amActually you can have a half loaf:ThePlayzr wrote: August 16th, 2025, 6:49 am The loafer has a useful trait in this rule, as it has 4 parts that can be either state without changing state or another part's state.
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My name has 9 'm's, if you're wondering.
ThePlayzr's younger cousin