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Re: pass the rule

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LuveelVoom wrote: November 19th, 2024, 9:44 pm [...] which has this puffer, along with a block puffer and a non-spaceship c/2o (which I don’t think is new), [...]

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x = 41, y = 48, rule = B34rw8/S234c
13$4b2o$4b2o3$6b3o9bo$5bo4bo7b3o$5bo4bo9b2o$4bo15b2o5b3o$4bobob3o8b2o
6bo2bo$4bobo11b2o6bo2b2o$19bo6b2o2b3o$30bo2bo$30bo2bo$30bo2bo$19bo6b2o
2b3o$4bobo11b2o6bo2b2o$4bobob3o8b2o6bo2bo$4bo15b2o5b3o$5bo4bo9b2o$5bo
4bo7b3o$6b3o9bo3$4b2o$4b2o!

Can they be corderized?
Speed is 26c/60 orthogonal, 3 engines:

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x = 132, y = 61, rule = B34rw8/S234c
117bo$116bobo$115b2ob2o$115bo2bo$117b2o$115b3o3b2o$116bo3b7o$49b2o72b
o2bo$48b2obo24bo25bo20bo3bo$47bo3bo23bobo23bobo15b2o5bo$47b4o24bobo23b
obo15b2o2b2o2b4o$47bo3b2o23bo25bo20bob2o4bo$46b2o3b4o70bo5bo$49bo4b2o
20bo25bo20bob2o4bo$32bo16bob2o3bo18bobo23bobo15b2o2b2o2b4o$31b3o15bob
5o19bobo23bobo15b2o5bo$4b2o20bo4b2obo2bo11bobo2bo21bo25bo20bo3bo$25bo
bo5b2o14bo73bo2bo$5bo18bobobo4bo5bo12b4o60bo3b7o$bo2bo20bobo4b3o5bo9b
ob3obo58b3o3b2o$o25bo23bo3bob2o59b2o$bo31b2o5bo8b3o4bo58bo2bo$33bo3bo
17b2o58b2ob2o$33b2ob2o16b2o3b2o55bobo$b2o30b2ob2o16bo3b7o52bo$34b4o23b
o2bo$25bo9b2o24bo3bo$24bobo30b2o5bo$24b3o30b2o2b2o2b4o$61bob2o4bo$63b
o5bo$61bob2o4bo$24b3o30b2o2b2o2b4o$24bobo30b2o5bo$25bo9b2o24bo3bo$34b
4o23bo2bo$b2o30b2ob2o16bo3b7o52bo$33b2ob2o16b2o3b2o55bobo$33bo3bo17b2o
58b2ob2o$bo31b2o5bo8b3o4bo58bo2bo$o25bo23bo3bob2o59b2o$bo2bo20bobo4b3o
5bo9bob3obo58b3o3b2o$5bo18bobobo4bo5bo12b4o60bo3b7o$25bobo5b2o14bo73b
o2bo$4b2o20bo4b2obo2bo11bobo2bo21bo25bo20bo3bo$31b3o15bob5o19bobo23bo
bo15b2o5bo$32bo16bob2o3bo18bobo23bobo15b2o2b2o2b4o$49bo4b2o20bo25bo20b
ob2o4bo$46b2o3b4o70bo5bo$47bo3b2o23bo25bo20bob2o4bo$47b4o24bobo23bobo
15b2o2b2o2b4o$47bo3bo23bobo23bobo15b2o5bo$48b2obo24bo25bo20bo3bo$49b2o
72bo2bo$116bo3b7o$115b3o3b2o$117b2o$115bo2bo$115b2ob2o$116bobo$117bo!

[[ TRACK 13/30 0 ]]
Is this the non-spaceship c/2o? Looks hard to corderize

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x = 5, y = 7, rule = B34rw8/S234c
bo$3o$4o$2b3o$4o$3o$bo!
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Re: pass the rule

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hotcrystal0 wrote: November 20th, 2024, 8:19 am The pi now makes diamonds:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B3-c4rw6c8/S234c8
2o$ob2o$2b2o$ob2o$2o!
Here’s a breeder made of two copies of the pi puffer:

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x = 5, y = 25, rule = B3-c4rw6c8/S234c8
2o$ob2o$2b2o$ob2o$2o16$b2o$bob2o$3b2o$bob2o$b2o!
137 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: pass the rule

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Trading the puffer for a failed replicator with S7e. Maybe further mutations can fix it:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B3-c4rw6c8/S234c7e8
b2o$o2bo$o2bo$o2bo$b2o!
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Re: pass the rule

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Adding B4e, which makes the rule more boring, but you can make a cool oscillator by adding B5y.

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x = 26, y = 21, rule = B3-c4erw6c8/S234c7e8
2bo2bobob3o5bo2bo$bob3obo4bobob3o2b4o$bo2b4obo2b2ob2obob2ob2o$4obo4bo
bo3bo3bo2b2o$2o2bo2b2obo2b4ob3o2bobo$2bo2bob5o3b2o2bob2o2bo$bo2bob2ob
o2b2obo2bo2b3obo$3bo2bob2o2bo2bob2o2b3o$4b3o2b4ob4o5bo$3b3obob5obo2b2o
bobobo$b2o7b2ob3o2bobob2obo$4ob2o2b2o3b3o4b3o$obobo3b2o5b4o5b2o$2o4bo
bobobob7o2bo$3b3ob5o2b3ob3ob4o$3o2bob2o2bo2bob2o3bob2o$bob2o3bobobob2o
4bo3b2o$2o2bob2o2b3o2b3ob4obo$bo2bob3o2b5obo3b2ob2o$b2o2bobo4b4ob3o4b
o$b3obobo3b2obob2obob2o!
137 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: pass the rule

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hotcrystal0 wrote: November 20th, 2024, 7:06 pm [...] you can make a cool oscillator [...]
To reiterate my objection to the "we might find something cool" sentiment, this misses the problem with these "game" threads.

In case someone actually finds something cool (a noteworthy reaction, a pattern, a set of reactions leading to some speed-specific or period-specific technology, ...), that "something cool" would deserve something more than "just post it in a random Sandbox thread where it will be forgotten forever".

For example, someone else already posted here two corderoids. The problem isn't with the "degree of coolness" of those corderoids. The problem is that they are misplaced here. Those two corderoids likely belong to the MDiOCA thread instead.

"Restricted rulegolfing" where steps must satisfy constraints is artificial; there is no good reason to prefer a particular CA type or space at the expense of other interesting CA types or spaces containing Conway's Life.
On the other hand, unrestricted rulegolfing, with people tweaking something posted by other people (and sharing whatever noteworthy they manage to discover/assemble), is part of what the MDiOCA thread is for.

Creating more and more duplicate "low-effort game" threads does not solve any problems, and creates new problems. It is a bad idea to do anything that would encourage further mindless chatting going against forum rules.
confocaloid wrote: November 18th, 2024, 9:43 pm
LuveelVoom wrote: November 18th, 2024, 9:41 pm we might find something cool
In which case, that would likely belong to MDiOCA instead: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1971
wwei47 wrote: November 19th, 2024, 6:40 pm CA can and should be fun, and this game encourages that.
confocaloid wrote: November 19th, 2024, 6:59 pm
wwei47 wrote: November 19th, 2024, 6:40 pm It seems clear that this is collaborative, open-ended, rulegolfing.
If this is meant as a "rulegolfing game", then I don't see any particularly good reasons to restrict what a single step can do. Rulegolfing can perfectly well go by replacing rules that aren't "maximally fine-grained".
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Re: pass the rule

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hotcrystal0 wrote: November 20th, 2024, 7:06 pm Adding B4e, which makes the rule more boring, but you can make a cool oscillator by adding B5y.
There is almost always a different way to get an interesting object. For example, I can add B4k instead and get a 13c/44 rake that outputs in front of itself.

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x = 9, y = 11, rule = B3-c4ekrw6c8/S234c7e8
b2o3b2o$o2bobo2bo$obo3bobo$obo3bobo$2o5b2o4$3bobo$3bobo$3b3o!
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Re: pass the rule

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Removing B3r turns the pi into a puffer that emits blocks and B-ships:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-cr4ekrw6c8/S234c7e8
obo$obo$3o!
137 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: pass the rule

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hotcrystal0 wrote: November 20th, 2024, 8:34 pm Removing B3r turns the pi into a puffer that emits blocks and B-ships:
Clean 11c/24 ship, good deal for B6e.
It is also the most common spaceship, an achievement considering how large it is.

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-cr4ekrw6ce8/S234c7e8
obo$obo$3o!
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Re: pass the rule

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Haycat2009 wrote: November 20th, 2024, 11:28 pmIt is also the most common spaceship, an achievement considering how large it is.
The logic is dubious. Being the most common spaceship is not "achievement" of any kind, unless at least there are any common spaceships at all.

The following spaceship is the most common spaceship in the census b3s34/C1 on Catagolue, but that is only because there are no more common spaceships, and not because it is anywhere near being common (it is not):

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x = 6, y = 5, rule = B3/S34
b2obo$b2ob2o$o4bo$3b3o$2bobo!
So this is more of "achievement" of the CA itself, rather than "achievement" of the specific object.

Haycat2009 wrote: November 20th, 2024, 11:28 pm I am in the mood to ignore thread hate - this is not spam, this is rulegolfing.
Your remark certainly isn't "rulegolfing".

This thread isn't rulegolfing, either. Normal meaningful rulegolfing does not assume tweaking the most recent post, and does not assume performing a minimal possible tweak. People rulegolf by starting from some previous CA (old or new doesn't matter) and tweaking it (near or far doesn't matter), possibly repeatedly.

This thread started as a chatlike low-effort game attempt and a duplicate of existing chatlike low-effort game attempts. This kind of activity shouldn't be confused with actual rulegolfing. It is a bad idea to do anything that might possibly encourage some people to create more such low-effort chatty threads.
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Re: pass the rule

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confocaloid wrote: November 21st, 2024, 12:14 am People rulegolf by starting from some previous CA (old or new doesn't matter) and tweaking it (near or far doesn't matter), possibly repeatedly.
Starting from some previous CA? Like the rule given in the previous post of this thread? A one transition tweak is still a tweak, and we are definitely doing lots of tweaks here.
confocaloid wrote: November 21st, 2024, 12:14 am This thread started as a chatlike low-effort game attempt and a duplicate of existing chatlike low-effort game attempts. This kind of activity shouldn't be confused with actual rulegolfing. It is a bad idea to do anything that might possibly encourage some people to create more such low-effort chatty threads.
Would you like me to delete or blank out my most recent posts in MDIOCA? The discoveries in said posts *do* derive from rules in this thread.

Anyways, I'm adding S5i. This may seem strange, but there's a c/14 ship and a 7c/41 failed replicator.

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-cr4ekrw6ce8/S234c5i7e8
3o$o$3o!

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x = 6, y = 1, rule = B3-cr4ekrw6ce8/S234c5i7e8
6o!
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Re: pass the rule

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wwei47 wrote: November 21st, 2024, 12:21 am Would you like me to delete or blank out my most recent posts in MDIOCA? The discoveries in said posts *do* derive from rules in this thread.
Just because some people happened to post potentially or actually interesting things in a thread that started as a low-effort chatty game, doesn't mean that it was a good idea to start the low-effort chatty game. That just means that the posts with more interesting things are misplaced here, and would go better in MDiOCA or elsewhere.
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Re: pass the rule

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+s4q

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x = 232, y = 89, rule = B3-cr4ekrw6ce8/S234cq5i7e8
161bob2o2bob3ob2obob2obo3b2obo4b2obo2bo3bobo2bobobo3b2obo3b3obo2b2o$161b
2obo3b4ob3obo3bo2bobobob2o2b2obobob2o2bo3b2o3b2obob2ob2o2b4o$160b4o3b
ob4obobo2bob3o3b2o2b2o4bob2o2bo2bo4b3o2bo2b3o2b3ob2obo$158bo4bob2obo2b
o2b2ob4o4bobo2b3o3b2ob7o2b2ob2obo3b2o6b2o3bo$158bo3bo2b4o2b3ob2ob2ob5o
2b2o3b2o2b2ob5o3b2o2bo6bo2bo2bob2ob2o$158b2o5b2o2bo5b2obo2bob3o4b3o3b
obobo2bobo2bob2o3b3obo4bob3ob2o$162b4o2b8o2b2o3b3obobob2obo4bo2b2obob
4obobob2obo2bobobob2obo$158b3o2b5obo2bob2ob2ob2ob2o2b2o5bob2o2bobob2o
4b2ob3o4b3obob5o$158b3ob3obo3bob3obob3ob4o7b3obo2bo4bo2b2obo5bo6bobob
2obo$159bob2o4b5o2bobob3o3bo2bo2b3obob2o3bo2b4o2b4o2b3obo5b3o2bo$159b
2ob2o2b3obo6b4obo2b2o2bobob2o2b3obobo3b3obo2b4o2b2obobo5bo$162bobo3b3o
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2o5bo2b3o2b2o$160bo2b3ob2o3bobob2o2bo9b3obo5bo4b2ob2o2b2o3b2ob3obo4b3o
$158b2obob2o2b3o2bobob4obo2bo5bob4obobo3b4obo2b2ob3obob4o2b6o$158bobo
b3obobo3b2obob2o3b2obo4bobobob3ob2o3b2o3b2obob2obo2b2ob3obo$158bobo2b
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2bo3bobo4bo2b2obo2b2ob6obo4b8ob2ob2ob4ob2o2b2o$160bobob2obob5ob2obobo
bo2b5o3bob2o2b4ob2o2b7o3b2obobobo2bo$162bo2bob2obobobob3obo2bobo2bobo
5b2ob2o3bob3o3b7obo4b3obobo$164b4obo3b3ob2o2bobo3bob5obob3obo3b4obob2o
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$136bo24bo5bobob3o2bo3bo9b4obo2bo3bo3bo5bo3b2obo2b4o2bo2bo$135b3o21b2o
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o2b6ob2o2bobo2bobo2bo3bob2o2b2o3bo3bobob2ob2ob2obob3obobo$158bo4bo3bo
2bobo4bo2b4o3b2ob3o2b2o4b2obobo3bob2o4bob3o3b4obo$164b2ob2obo2bobo5bo
2bo4b2obo2b2o2bob2o2b2o2bobobo8b2ob2o3b2o$158b2o2bob2o2bo2b3obo2b2o2b
7o5bob2o3bo5bo8bobob2o4b2o2b2o$159b2o2bobo3bobob2ob2o3b3obo3b2ob3o2bo
2bobobobobo3b3o4bob2ob5o$158bo2b2obo2bobobobo2b6ob2o4b2ob2obo2bob6obo
2bobob3ob2ob3o3b2o2bo$160b2o2b3ob5o3bo4bobo2b5o2bo3b3o2b3o2bo3bo3bo5b
2ob5ob2o$158b5o2bo3bo2bobo5b2o2bo2bo2b3obobo3b2ob2ob4ob2o2b2ob2o2b2ob
2o3b2o$158b3obob2obo2bobo2b2o2bo6bo3bo2bo2b2ob3o2b2o2bob2o3b5ob8ob2o$
158bo3b6obob3ob3ob3ob5o4bobo2b5obob2obo4b2obobo2bobobobo2b2o$160b2obo
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b2o2b2ob2obo5bo3b2o6bobo2bobo3b2obo2b3o$158bob3ob2o2b3o4b3ob4ob2o2bob
2o3b2o2b3o2bo2b3obobo3bo8b4obo$161bobob3o2b2ob2ob2ob2ob3o2bo2b3o2b2ob
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2obob2obo2b5o3bo2b3o2bobo$159bo2bo3b4obo11bob2o2b4o4b4ob2ob3ob4o3bobo
b2ob3o4b2o$158bo2bo3bob2o2bob3o2b5ob2o7b2ob3o3bobo4b2ob3o2b3o2bo3b2o2b
o$162bobo2b5obob2o6bobo5b2ob4obo2b2obobo2bo2bob7o3b3obo$160bobo4b5o3b
2o3bo3bo3b3o4bobo2b2obo3bobo4b3obob3ob3o2b2o$158bo3b2o2b2obobo2b2ob4o
2bo3bobo2b2ob3o2bob2obobo2b4ob3ob4o2b5obo$158bo2b2o2bo3b2ob2o2b2o2b3o
bo2bob4o3bobob2o3b2o7bo2b2o3bo5b2o$158bob2obobobo3bob3o3bob2o5b3obobo
2bobo3bobo3bobobob2obobo3b4o2bo$159bobo2b3obo4bo2b3o2b4o5bob4obo4b8ob
ob4obo3b2o2b2o3bo$158bo2b2ob5ob3obo3bob3obo6b3o2b4o3b2o3b3o2b2ob3o2b2o
2bo5bo$160bo2b3obobo4b2obo2b3ob2o2bo2b2obo4bob2o2b2o2bobo4bobobobo2b7o
$158b3o2b3obobob8o4bo2bo3b2o2bob2ob2obob6o2bobo7bobobobob2o$161bobob2o
bo4b2o3bob3obo3b2o3b4o6bob2obo3bobo2b2obobo2bo3bo$161bo2bobob3ob2o2bo
bob2o2bob4obo2bo2b2ob2obo9bo2bob3o5b3o2bo$158b2ob5obo3b4obo3b6o6bo3b2o
6bob3o5bobo3bob2obo$158b2ob3o8b5o3bo2b2o3b2o2b2obo2bo3b6o2bob6obo2b3o
4bo5$bo$3o$o!
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Re: pass the rule

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-3q; now there's a replicator

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x = 2, y = 3, rule = B3-cqr4ekrw6ce8/S234cq5i7e8
2o$2o$2o!
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Re: pass the rule

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no moore rep

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x = 91, y = 49, rule = B3-cqr4ekrw6ce8/S234cq5iq7e8
32b3ob3obobo2b3o3bobobo2b2obo4b3obo3bo2bobob2ob4o$32b2ob4obob2o2bob2o
3b3obo2b2o2b5obo2bob3obo2b2ob4obo$33b2ob3ob3o2b2o2bobo2bob3ob2o2b3o2b
obob3obobob2ob3o$32bo2bo3b2o2b2o3b3o7b2o2b2o2bobob3obob2ob2o2b2o3bobo
$32bob2o3bobo3b5ob2ob5obo2bob3o2b2o4bob3o2b2obo$33b3o2bo3bo2bob2obo2b
3ob2o4b5obo2bobobo3bo3b2obob2o$32b2obob2o4bo2b3o2bob2o2bobob2ob3o2b2o
2b3o6bob4ob2o$32b2ob2obo2b2obo2bo2bob2o2bob7ob2o3bob3ob2obobo2b2obo$32b
o2bob3o3b3obo4b6obob2ob2ob4ob6o6b7o$33bobo2bo2b2o2bo2b2o3b3o4bo3bo3b6o
bo3bob3o2b3obo$35b3o2bob2o2bob3o3b2ob2obo3b2obobobo2b2o2bo2b6obobo$32b
2o4b3o5b2o6b2obo5b2ob6ob3obo2bo6b2obo$32bobo2b2obo3b4obobobob3obo3bo6b
o3b2o2bobo2bo3b4o$32bob3obo3bo3b3ob3ob3o6bob2o3bo2b4obo2b2o5bo$33bob5o
3b2o3b2o2b2o4b2obob4o5b2o5b4obo3bobo$33bob2o4bob2obobo2bobo4b3o2b3ob2o
bo4bo3b6ob3obo$33bob2o2bobo2b2ob4ob4o6b2ob3obob5o2b3o2b2obob2o$32bo3b
3o2b8o2bob3ob3o6b2ob4o2b2o2bo3bob2o2bo$34bobobobobob2ob2ob3ob3obob2ob
obob3ob2o2b2ob2o2b2o5b2o$32b2ob3o2bo2b3ob10o3b3ob2o2bobo3b2o2bobobobo
bo3bo$33bo2bob8o3b2ob2obobob4o3bo3bob2obo2bo3bo2b2ob2o$33b5o4b2o3bo6b
obob2obo5b2o2bob3o2b3o3bo$35bob2obobobob4o3bob2o2b3o2b2o2b2ob5o2b4obo
b3o$3o29b2obo2b3obo3b3o2bobo2b2o6b2obobo6bo4b2ob4ob2o$3o30bo3bob2obob
3obo2bo8b4o2bo2b2o5b4obob2o2bob2o$32bobobobobo2b3o4b3ob2obo3bo3bobob2o
bob4obo2bob2o3b2o$32b8ob2o2b6o4bo2b2ob3o2b5o3bo3bobob2o2b3obo$32b4obo
2b2o2b2o2b2o5bobob7ob2obo2b5o3b4o2bobo$33b3ob4o2b2ob3o2bob2o2bob2o4bo
b2obobo4bobobob3o4bo$32b2obo3b3ob5o2bob4ob2obo5b5o3b5o3b2obo3bo$34bo2b
o2bobobo2bobob2ob2obo6bob3obobob3o3bobob2obob2o$32bob5o2b3o4b3obo2bob
3o2b3o2b3obobobobo6bo3bobo$32bo3b2o2bo3bob2ob3ob3o2bo2b2o2b3o3bo5b4ob
2o4b2o$34b3o2bobob2ob3o4b2o2b2o2bob2ob4o2b2obob4o3b2ob2o$34b2obob3ob2o
2b5o2b3obob3o2bobob2o4bo3b4obobo2b2o$32b2o3bo2b4ob2o2b2obobob3ob2obob
obo4bobob6obo2b4o$32b3obo5b6ob3obob6o2b3o2b3o2bobo2bo3bo2b2o3bo$32b4o
b2obo2b2o3b5ob2ob2o6bobobo6bo5b3o2bobo$37bo4bob3ob2o2bobo2b2o3b2o4b2o
bo2b2obo5b2obobo$34bo2b3ob2o2bob3o2bo3b2o2bo2bobob2ob2o2bo4b3o2b4obo$
33bobob5ob2o2b2o2b2o3b2o3bob2obo2bo2b2obo3bo2b2ob2o$34bobob4o2b4obob3o
2b2o2b2ob3ob2obobo2bo3b2o4b2o2bo$32b4o3b2o2b2o3bob7o5bob2ob2ob4ob2ob2o
b2ob4o2bo$32bobobob3ob3ob4o2b2o5bo4bo6bo6b6obob2o$32b2o2b4o3bo2bobob3o
2bo3b2o2b2o2b3o2bo5b2obo2b2o2bobo$32b2ob2o4bo4b5o2b2o2bo3b3o2bo2bob2o
b2obob2o3bo3b2o$33bo4bo3b2o2bobo2b2obo2bo3b7ob3o4b2obo2b2obob2o$34bob
o3b7ob4o2bobo3bob2o8b3o4bobo3bo2bo$32bo2b8obo3bob2obo4bobo3b2o2bobo2b
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Re: pass the rule

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Instead, wing becomes a P22 gun with -S5i.

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3-cqr4ekrw6ce8/S234cq5q7e8
bo$obo$o2bo$b3o!
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Re: pass the rule

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CARuler wrote: November 21st, 2024, 12:39 am +s4q
hmmm... i would like if someone corderised the R-pentomino in this rule as well? (hi thrash)
+B2i

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x = 49, y = 27, rule = B2i3-cqr4ekrw6ce8/S234cq5q7e8
42bo3bo$42bo3bo$43b3o22$47b2o$2ob2ob3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o
$47b2o!
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Re: pass the rule

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+B5a for a P39:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2i3-cqr4ekrw5a6ce8/S234cq5q7e8
2b3o$2b3o$7o$3ob3o$7o$2b3o$2b3o!
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Re: pass the rule

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Bye-bye, S3a. The P39 is now a P13, and the still life on the right is semi-common:

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x = 16, y = 7, rule = B2i3-cqr4ekrw5a6ce8/S23-a4cq5q7e8
2b3o8bo$2b3o7bobo$7o5bobo$3ob3o4b2ob2o$7o5bobo$2b3o7bobo$2b3o8bo!
137 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: pass the rule

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+B7c for the first oblique ship of this game at (8,3)c/68:

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x = 8, y = 14, rule = B2i3-cqr4ekrw5a6ce7c8/S23-a4cq5q7e8
4b3o$4bo2bo$5b2o7$b2o$b2obo$o3bo$b3o$b3o!
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Re: pass the rule

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B3q added back for these three objects of note: a P10, a c/4o, and a 3c/133d:

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x = 19, y = 22, rule = B2i3-cr4ekrw5a6ce7c8/S23-a4cq5q7e8
14bobo$bo9bob5o$4o7bobo4bo$bob2o6bob5o$3b2o9bobo11$15bo$14b3o$13b2o2b
o$12b5o$11b2ob2o$12bobo$13bo!
Edit: P392 made of two copies of the 3c/133d:

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x = 29, y = 29, rule = B2i3-cr4ekrw5a6ce7c8/S23-a4cq5q7e8
4bo$3b3o$2b2o2bo$b5o$2ob2o$bobo$2bo16$26bo$25bobo$24b2ob2o$23b5o$22bo
2b2o$23b3o$24bo!
137 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: pass the rule

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Let's add S5i for a P75 gun:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2i3-cr4ekrw5a6ce7c8/S23-a4cq5iq7e8
bo$obo$bo!
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Re: pass the rule

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-B8 (sorry to immediately remove your gun, i just wanted to remove transitions that seemed redundant to me)

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2i3-cr4ekrw5a6ce7c/S23-a4cq5iq7e8
bo$obo$bo!
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Re: pass the rule

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get_Snacked wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 11:06 am -B8 (sorry to immediately remove your gun, i just wanted to remove transitions that seemed redundant to me)

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2i3-cr4ekrw5a6ce7c/S23-a4cq5iq7e8
bo$obo$bo!
Adding B8 or removing S4c could bring in a (different) gun, but instead I'll add B5k for a (3,1)c/29 camelship.

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2i3-cr4ekrw5ak6ce7c/S23-a4cq5iq7e8
b3o$obo$2o!
Edit: Fixed code tag
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Re: pass the rule

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+s6i

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x = 113, y = 80, rule = B2i3-cr4ekrw5ak6ce7c/S23-a4cq5iq6i7e8
53b2obo4bo2bobobobob2o2bo3b3o3b3obo3bo3b2obob4o2bobo$53b2obo2b6obo2bo
3b2obo4b4o5b2obo4b2o2bo3bobob2o$56b5o3b5obo4bob2obobo2bo2bobo2b2obo5b
3o2b4o$56bo6bob3o3bo2b5ob2ob2o2b2o6b2o5bobob2obobo$52bo3bob2o4bo4bobo
bobo5b3o2b3o11b3ob5ob3o$52bob2obobob3o3b2o3b5o7bobo2b4o3bo2bo3bo2b2ob
2o$55bo4b3o2b2o6b2obo4b4o2b6obobobob2o4b5o$53b2obobob2obob6o3b4obobo4b
9o3bobob2ob2o2b2o$52bo2bob4o2bobobo2bo2b2obo2b2o2b2ob8obobo2b2obo2bob
4o$54bobo2b3obo3bob3ob2ob4obo2b3ob2ob5o2b2o3bob2o2bo$55bobo2b3ob3obob
obobobob6o2b3obob3ob3o2b2o4b6o$52b2obob2ob2obob3o2b4obo2bobo4b2o2b2ob
2ob5o2b2ob3o2bo$52bo3bo2b2o4bo9bob3obo2bo2b6ob3o2b2ob2obob2ob2o$57b2o
2bobobobo4b2o2b2ob2obobob2obo4bobo2bob2o4b2o2b2o$53b8obo2bobobo2b5o2b
2ob5obo4bobo4b2o4b3o2bo$52bo2b2o2b2ob5ob2obo2bobob3ob4o2bob2o3b7o3bo2b
o$52bob3ob4obo3b2o2bo2b3o3bo3bobo2bob3ob3o2b3o3b2o3bo$54bo4bobob6o3b2o
bo3b2obo2b2obob3ob2obobob5o3bobo$53bo3bo2b3obobob5o3b2obo2bobo2bo2b2o
bo3b4o2bo3bob3o$52bo2b2ob4o2bo6bo3b2o2b3o4bo5bo2bobobo2b4obo2b2o$58bo
b2o4bob7obobobobo5b2o3bobo2b3obo4b2ob2o$53bo3bob3obo2bobo2b3obo2bob4o
4bob2o3b2obo2b3obob2ob3o$52bo4b2o3bo2b2ob7o4b2o2b2o3bob3ob2ob3o4bob2o
bo$52b2ob4o2b2o2b2ob3o3bobo2bo6b3ob2o2bo3b2obo2b2o3b2obo$52bo2b3o6b3o
b3obo3bob2o3b2o3b5o3bob2o2bob3ob3o$52bo3bobobobob2o4bob4o2b2o2bo3bobo
b8o4bo3b2o2bobo$52bo4bob3obo2b3ob2o3bobo2bo2bobo4bob2obo4b2ob2ob2ob2o
$53b3ob2o3b2o5bo3b2ob5obob4o4bo2b3ob2ob2o2bobo$53bobobo2b2o2bob2obo2b
o2b2o3bobo5b4o2bobob3obobobo2b3o$11b3o39b2o2bo2b2o2bobo2bo2bo3b4o2b2o
2bob3ob2obob2o3bo5b2ob2o$10bobo40bo3b2obob2o4b2ob2o2bob4o2b3ob2ob3o2b
obo2bobo4bo2b2o$10b2o40b2o4b2obob2o2bo4bo4bo4b3o2bo5bobob3o2bobobo4b2o
$55bo2b9obo4bob5o5bobo2bo4b3o3b4o2b2o$53b2o2bobob2o2bobo2bob3ob2o4b2o
2b4ob4o4b2o3bo2bo4bo$52bobobo4b13o2bob2ob2o2bo3bobobob3o2bo3b5obo$52b
2ob4o3bo6bobobob4o2bo4b3obo5bo5bo2b2o3bo$53b2o4bo3b6o6bobo2bob2o2b3o2b
obob2obo2b2ob3ob3obo$52bob3o3b2obobo2bobobo5bo3b3ob3obo6bob4obo2bo3bo
$53bob3ob3obo2b4o2b3o4b2o3b4o3bob3o5bob5o2b2o$52b2obob3o3bobo3b2o2b4o
b3o2b2o2b2o3b6ob2obo3bobobo$52b4ob4obobob2ob2o4b2o2bo2b2obobo2b3obobo
2b2ob6obob2o$52bo4bobo3b7o6bo3b2o3bobo3b4ob3obob2o3bobobo$52b6o3bo2b2o
b2o5b2ob3o3bobob3ob3o2b7o2bobo2bo$52b2ob3o3b2o6bo3bo2b3obob3obob4ob3o
2b2ob2o2bo4b3o$53bo2bob2o2bobob3obo2bo4b2obobob2ob2ob3o2bobobo2b3ob2o
$53bobobo2b3obo2b2ob6obo2bo3b4o3b2ob2o3bo3bo2b5o$52bob2o2bob4ob2ob2o2b
5o3bo5bo2b2ob4ob4o4b2o4b2o$58bobo3b2o3bo6b4o2bob3obo9b5o2bo3b4o$52bob
ob5o2b4obob2ob3o3bo3bo4b3o2bo2b3obobo2bo2bobobo$52b3ob2o5b2obobo2b3ob
2o2b2o3bo4bo6b3ob4ob8o$53b2o2b4o2bo2bo2b2ob4ob2o3b4ob2o3bob3o3b4o2b2o
2bobo$54bobob2o2b4o2bo2b2obo2b3o2b3o3bob2ob4obo3b2ob3ob2obo$53b3obob3o
4b2o4bobobo2b2o2b3obo2bo2b7ob4o3b3o$54b5ob3ob2obobobo3b3obo2b7o2b3o2b
ob2ob5ob2o$52bobo2b2o3b3ob4obo4b3o4bo5bo2b2o2b2o2bobob3ob3obo$52b2o3b
o9bob2o2bobo2b4o3bob2o4bobob3o2b4obobo2bo$53bobo2bobo3b4ob2ob2obo2b2o
bo4bo2bobob2o2bo3b2ob7obo$53bo2bob4o2bo2b3o2bo2bo11b5o5bo2bobob2ob2ob
2o$52b2obo2b2o4b3obo4b2obo4bob2o3bobo2b2ob2ob5ob2o4bo$56bo2b2o2b3o2b4o
b3o3b5o2bob2obob2obo2b3o2b2o2bob3o$52b2ob6o3b5ob2o7b2o10bobo5bobo2bob
obobo$53bo2b4obo8b3o10b2ob3o2bob2ob2o2b2o2bob3obo$54b2obob3obob2o2b2o
bo2b2o4bo3bo2b2ob2ob4obobob5o$52b2o3b2ob3obo4bo3b3obo2bo2b4obo2b2ob2o
bo7bob4obo$52b5o2bob2ob2o2b3obo2b5o2b2o2bobob3obob4ob2ob4o$53bo2b2obo
4b2obob7o5b2obo2bo2b3ob2obo4bo2bob2o3bo$52bob2ob5o2b2o2b5o3b2obobo2b4o
bo2b2o2bob2obobo2b4ob2o$52b5o2bo3b2o3b3ob4ob2ob2obobo3b3ob4obo4bo2b3o
3bo$52bobobobobo2bobo2b4obo4b4ob3ob2o5b3o3bo2b2o3b4o$52bob2ob4obobo4b
4obob3o2b2ob2o2b3ob2ob3obob2o2bo3bob2o$53b3obo3b5o2b2ob2obo3b2obo3bo5b
ob2obo2bo2bobo7bo$53bo2b6obo3bobo2b2o2bobo3bo6bo3b2ob2ob3ob2ob2o$52b2o
3bobo2b2o2bob2ob3o2b5o5bo2bo2bobobo3bob2o2bo3b3o$3o53bob2o3b2ob2o3bo6b
obo3bo5b2o8bo5bo2b2obo$bo50b2obo2bobobo3b2o4bobo3bobobobob6ob2o2b4o3b
o2bo2bobo$3o49bobo2b2o2bo2b2o2b3o2b7ob3ob2ob2o2bo2b2o2bobo4b2ob3o$52b
o6b3obob2ob11o6bo8b4o2b2ob2ob2o4bo$52bo2bob2o2b3o2bo2b4o2b3obob2o5bo2b
2o3bob5obob4obo$53bobob2o2bob2ob3o6b3obobobo5b2o3b2o2b2ob4obo3bobo$53b
2o3b2obo4bob3ob2o3bobo5b3obo3bobobobo6bobobo!
proof the p74 was added by s6i:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2i3-cr4ekrw5ak6ce7c/S23-a4cq5iq6i7e8
2b3o$bobobo$ob3obo$7o$ob3obo$bobobo$2b3o!
edit:
did the b-heptemo change?

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2i3-cr4ekrw5ak6ce7c/S23-a4cq5iq6i7e8
2bo$b3o$2ob2o$o2bo$o!
edit2:
wait what

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x = 6, y = 4, rule = B2i3-cr4ekrw5ak6ce7c/S23-a4cq5iq6i7e8
3bo$2b3o$3ob2o$2bo2bo!
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Re: pass the rule

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Adding B4c for a P71:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2i3-cr4cekrw5ak6ce7c/S23-a4cq5iq6i7e8
bo$3o$bo!
Edit: P91:

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x = 19, y = 7, rule = B2i3-cr4cekrw5ak6ce7c/S23-a4cq5iq6i7e8
2b3o9b3o$bo3bo7bo3bo$o5bo5bo5bo$o2bo2bo5bo2bo2bo$o5bo5bo5bo$bo3bo7bo3b
o$2b3o9b3o!
137 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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